I used to be an Air Venturi dealer and bought 3 of these rifles when they came out; one in every caliber. The rifle was degassed because they are not supposed to be shipped with a pressurized cylinder. That said, the .22 I bought functions flawlessly and in the testing I've done is very accurate. The .25 and the .177 both had problems and the .177 still has problems. Neither of those had the 5 1/2 turns on the hammer adjustment that Steve reported but the .22 did. The .177 had the 2nd dirtiest barrel I have ever cleaned (a first gen Gauntlet still holds that title) and it had a regulator that was taking about 3-4 seconds to return to setting after each shot. With about 100 pellets thru it now the regulator is taking about 1-2 seconds to reset. So that is getting better but still needs break-in time. But here is the lesson that in my years shooting and selling air guns most folks just don't want to embrace. A $300 rifle will probably perform like a $300 rifle. Between glowing reviews and rifles that exceed expectations as a result of constantly improving technology (much more than because $1000 rifles can be had for $300) many buyers, especially new buyers, are disappointed when the guns don't perform, or develop problems. These are really nice little rifles for the money. With some work and tuning and pellet testing they perform quite well. But anyone who is suggesting that you are going to buy a $300 rifle and have it perform like and FX Crown or Air Arms S510 Sporter (had both; sold the Crown--kept the Ultimate Sporter) either doesn't know enough to recognize the vast differences or is delusional. If you are in the market for a nice $300 rifle that will out shoot many of the other rifles at this price point the Avenger is a good choice. If you want a super smooth, accurate, consistent and competitive rifle keep saving up and buy what you really want.
It says you cannot adjust the regulator pressure down....only up. Must de-gas gun then adjust it down to minimum regulated pressure, then fill it back up and adjus regulator up ONLY. Says if you adjust regulator down you WILL damage the gun. In your video you said you adjusted from 300 bar down to 100 bar.....😬
umm no that wasn't what I said. but yes I agree with you ..I degassed the rifle totaly and turned the screw in all the way then backed it out a quarter turn .then re gassed the gun and the reg was about 1000psi
Maybe I was unlucky or the Rifle had issues from the start... But on a side note I believe that no PCP manufactures ship rifles with no air in them. This is a good indicator that there may be an issue. The reason that they always have air in them is for O ring health.
IDK lucky I guess..Its odd that I have a friend that got a rifle the same time I did his had 1500psi in it and mine was empty? Then I had a huge failure theirs nothing in the documentation that suggests i did anything wrong?
Just received mine last week with no air in it. I filled it up on Friday, left it in my office for the weekend, and now today(Monday) all the air has leaked out. Super annoying considering it is new, unfired, and all the friggin effort it took to hand pump it up to 3500psi just 3 days ago! Also the manual says to leave it pressurized above 1000psi to protect the seals. If it comes to us at zero psi, then I would recommend immediately packing it back up and sending it straight back.
@@swingonthespiral Yes, I bought it from pyramydair and did get a replacement. The replacement also came with no air, however it's not leaking since I filled it and holds the air at steady pressure for a few months now.
The problem was probably the poppet or valve that is struck by the hammer just jammed open or an oring moved out of place but shouldn't be the reg but Thankyou for posting so we are aware of some of these small issues
Maybe you adjusted the regulator to low, Even the impact has a minimum recommended reg. Pressure to never go under, I'm not sure but if the manufacturer sent it with the reg Pressure at 2900 I would not see any reason to adjust below 2000
I did it exactly the way Steve Shally suggested to do it in his video and he is sponsored by air venturi.. My impact is @ 1600 psi/ 110 BAR and I shoot 34 grn. JSB's @ 880.
@@myminuteofangle7313 strange you are having issues Mise does very well on his eco tune (1400 psi reg and 1.5 turns on spring) Shoots 16gn at 880 My reg will creep less than 100 psi over the course of a day but that does not make any difference in a chrony Good luck
@@PraetzelProjects I do not have issues any more I had a failure of the valve 13 shots into tuning, right around the same settings your at. I believe i just got a lemon. One thing about Killa Kev said about going below 2000 psi. I would have to totally disagree with keeping in mind the rifle does come in .177 cal.. I would never need 2000psi with an 8 grn pellet,
I had three new baffle model Avenger .22s that had regulator creep. All three would creep up 200 PSI in seven minutes and 600 to 800 PSI overnight. Yes, I degassed the Avenger doing the regulator adjustments. My desired pressures for tuning were 1400, 1800 and 2000 PSI. Of course the dealers will say that it wasn't degassed before adjustment or will be tested at 2900 PSI regulator pressure. This is probably enough high pressure to seal the Delrin ring in the regulator even if faulty. Just expect to be gaslighted on this issue and the consumer is made to look ignorant. We are told to manage our expectation on the Avenger. It is only a $300 air rifle were are told mainly by the sellers or their propagandist. I bought the Avenger with the expectation of not finding perfection but there are issues that make the Avenger a $300 lamp post. My experience with air rifles is above average but regulators that can't be fixed nor are there any spare parts available is above my skill level. The Avenger had a poppet problem that took over a year to fix. Are creeping regulators the next year long fix?
I think your failure is caused by not backing off the hamer spring with the regulator. With the regulator at 1000psi the hamer spring is set from the factory for 3000psi. The hamer spring is overpowering the return spring and holding the valve open. So try loosening the hammer spring and see if that fixes the problem.
agreed...Although this is how the impact is tuned . I believe the avenger has more of a " glass " valve. and it requires stepping the reg pressure with the hammer.
@@ricksedlacek2326 no i did not try that ,but i dont think that would have had any bearing on the failure because there is no pressure on the valve with out the gun cocked, There is actually more to this than I care to type .. When I get my new avenger I will make a comprehensive video of what to do and what not to do.
Mine has not leaked, my main issue is with the magazines, I fired three full mags, then it wouldn't chamber a round, with the other magazine the rifle wouldn't even allow me to chamber a round!!! Gonna order different type magazine.
When mine arrived, I had to run over 50 cleaning patches and then bore mops to get it clean. Dirtiest barrel of any air rifle I have ever seen. Shoots amazing once you get the crap out of the barrel.
i just sent back a .22 avenger because i was getting nowhere near the shot counts others were getting after the third shot string- the first two- @ 1900 reg roughly (hard to gauge with the small reg meter), got 113 the first string within a 20 spread range- 98 the second- then it began dropping bad- by around the 9'th or so string, i was getting only 52 consistent shots within the 20 spread range- and this was even way down on 1400 reg with only 1/4 turn (Could not get a setting where i was getting under about 880 or so- Even @ 1400 reg- something just wasn't right) So, i was getting low shot count, and high fps even with low settings- I went back up to the 1800 reg setting, 1/4 turn still, and was getting about 950 fps- all the testing was done with 14.3 gr- Emailed Tech support- they didn't know what was going on, so sent it back for exchange- i coulda lived with a drop of say 20 shots in the shot count after a few strings or so- maybe 30, but not 65- that seemed a bit much. I took a tissue laid it over the breach, but saw no air movement- so i don't think the probe seal was bad- Whatever was going on wasn't allowing me to get lower fps, and of course a good high shot count- I woudl think i should be able to regulate it down low enough to get in the 600 fps range if i wanted to? (Not that i would, but i should be able to shouldn't i?)
Thats the valve leaking. When the regulator leaks the air does not go out of the barrel. Mine was leaking from a combination of bad orings lubed with that horrible brown chineze grease in the pressure tubes. New orings wiht the right silicone grease and it good now. My regulator does creep up in pressure. Am working on that. Maybe new parts made or a whole new reg. Sadly cojona 🤓🧐is in the way........
What you did wrong was to screw the hammer spring screw in 5.5 turns to start off with. You should have started with the screw turned all the way cc (back) and then started to turn the screw cw (right - in) to increase the pressure. Thats why your first one failed!
I used to be an Air Venturi dealer and bought 3 of these rifles when they came out; one in every caliber. The rifle was degassed because they are not supposed to be shipped with a pressurized cylinder. That said, the .22 I bought functions flawlessly and in the testing I've done is very accurate. The .25 and the .177 both had problems and the .177 still has problems. Neither of those had the 5 1/2 turns on the hammer adjustment that Steve reported but the .22 did. The .177 had the 2nd dirtiest barrel I have ever cleaned (a first gen Gauntlet still holds that title) and it had a regulator that was taking about 3-4 seconds to return to setting after each shot. With about 100 pellets thru it now the regulator is taking about 1-2 seconds to reset. So that is getting better but still needs break-in time. But here is the lesson that in my years shooting and selling air guns most folks just don't want to embrace. A $300 rifle will probably perform like a $300 rifle. Between glowing reviews and rifles that exceed expectations as a result of constantly improving technology (much more than because $1000 rifles can be had for $300) many buyers, especially new buyers, are disappointed when the guns don't perform, or develop problems. These are really nice little rifles for the money. With some work and tuning and pellet testing they perform quite well. But anyone who is suggesting that you are going to buy a $300 rifle and have it perform like and FX Crown or Air Arms S510 Sporter (had both; sold the Crown--kept the Ultimate Sporter) either doesn't know enough to recognize the vast differences or is delusional. If you are in the market for a nice $300 rifle that will out shoot many of the other rifles at this price point the Avenger is a good choice. If you want a super smooth, accurate, consistent and competitive rifle keep saving up and buy what you really want.
Well said thank you for your reply.
Tienes que montar el martillo si el arma esta vacia, por eso se te escapa el aire.......
It says you cannot adjust the regulator pressure down....only up. Must de-gas gun then adjust it down to minimum regulated pressure, then fill it back up and adjus regulator up ONLY. Says if you adjust regulator down you WILL damage the gun. In your video you said you adjusted from 300 bar down to 100 bar.....😬
umm no that wasn't what I said. but yes I agree with you ..I degassed the rifle totaly and turned the screw in all the way then backed it out a quarter turn .then re gassed the gun and the reg was about 1000psi
Maybe I was unlucky or the Rifle had issues from the start... But on a side note I believe that no PCP manufactures ship rifles with no air in them. This is a good indicator that there may be an issue. The reason that they always have air in them is for O ring health.
No
None of them are shipped with air
To my knowledge
Mine doesn’t leak
@@PraetzelProjects That is incorrect. I know for a fact the info I stated in the video of a friends shipping with 1500psi in it.
@@myminuteofangle7313 interesting
What distributor?
It may be some sent it with and some don’t
@@PraetzelProjects Both of are rifles came from pyramid air.
@@myminuteofangle7313 hmm strange
Mine is a wood stocker and came with some air in it. I've had it a bit over a month and no issues yet.
Mine came without air and haven't leaked the four months I've owned it. Out the box it was maxed out shooting 33 grain 870fps
IDK lucky I guess..Its odd that I have a friend that got a rifle the same time I did his had 1500psi in it and mine was empty? Then I had a huge failure theirs nothing in the documentation that suggests i did anything wrong?
Just received mine last week with no air in it. I filled it up on Friday, left it in my office for the weekend, and now today(Monday) all the air has leaked out. Super annoying considering it is new, unfired, and all the friggin effort it took to hand pump it up to 3500psi just 3 days ago! Also the manual says to leave it pressurized above 1000psi to protect the seals. If it comes to us at zero psi, then I would recommend immediately packing it back up and sending it straight back.
@@JT-rq7nt I feel your pain.. Sucks.
@@JT-rq7nt Sometimes that's how it goes. I always buy from a good dealer that will send another. Quality control in China can be pretty crap.
@@swingonthespiral Yes, I bought it from pyramydair and did get a replacement. The replacement also came with no air, however it's not leaking since I filled it and holds the air at steady pressure for a few months now.
Drinkin and guns... good fun !
Try it sober next time, you might not break it... lol
Minimum regulator can be set on it is 1160 psi i think
I have had my .25 Avenger regulator set at 800 psi and it works fine.
The problem was probably the poppet or valve that is struck by the hammer just jammed open or an oring moved out of place but shouldn't be the reg but Thankyou for posting so we are aware of some of these small issues
My final thoughts on this video:
Don't drink while filling your tank
Maybe you adjusted the regulator to low, Even the impact has a minimum recommended reg. Pressure to never go under, I'm not sure but if the manufacturer sent it with the reg Pressure at 2900 I would not see any reason to adjust below 2000
I did it exactly the way Steve Shally suggested to do it in his video and he is sponsored by air venturi.. My impact is @ 1600 psi/ 110 BAR and I shoot 34 grn. JSB's @ 880.
@@myminuteofangle7313 strange you are having issues
Mise does very well on his eco tune (1400 psi reg and 1.5 turns on spring)
Shoots 16gn at 880
My reg will creep less than 100 psi over the course of a day but that does not make any difference in a chrony
Good luck
@@PraetzelProjects I do not have issues any more I had a failure of the valve 13 shots into tuning, right around the same settings your at. I believe i just got a lemon. One thing about Killa Kev said about going below 2000 psi. I would have to totally disagree with keeping in mind the rifle does come in .177 cal.. I would never need 2000psi with an 8 grn pellet,
@@myminuteofangle7313 agreed
I had three new baffle model Avenger .22s that had regulator creep. All three would creep up 200 PSI in seven minutes and 600 to 800 PSI overnight. Yes, I degassed the Avenger doing the regulator adjustments. My desired pressures for tuning were 1400, 1800 and 2000 PSI. Of course the dealers will say that it wasn't degassed before adjustment or will be tested at 2900 PSI regulator pressure. This is probably enough high pressure to seal the Delrin ring in the regulator even if faulty. Just expect to be gaslighted on this issue and the consumer is made to look ignorant. We are told to manage our expectation on the Avenger. It is only a $300 air rifle were are told mainly by the sellers or their propagandist. I bought the Avenger with the expectation of not finding perfection but there are issues that make the Avenger a $300 lamp post. My experience with air rifles is above average but regulators that can't be fixed nor are there any spare parts available is above my skill level. The Avenger had a poppet problem that took over a year to fix. Are creeping regulators the next year long fix?
I think your failure is caused by not backing off the hamer spring with the regulator. With the regulator at 1000psi the hamer spring is set from the factory for 3000psi. The hamer spring is overpowering the return spring and holding the valve open. So try loosening the hammer spring and see if that fixes the problem.
agreed...Although this is how the impact is tuned . I believe the avenger has more of a " glass " valve. and it requires stepping the reg pressure with the hammer.
@@myminuteofangle7313 Did you try turning the hamer spring out (looser) to see if it fixes the problem?
@@ricksedlacek2326 no i did not try that ,but i dont think that would have had any bearing on the failure because there is no pressure on the valve with out the gun cocked, There is actually more to this than I care to type .. When I get my new avenger I will make a comprehensive video of what to do and what not to do.
@@ricksedlacek2326 yes
@@myminuteofangle7313 What does yes mean?
Mine has not leaked, my main issue is with the magazines, I fired three full mags, then it wouldn't chamber a round, with the other magazine the rifle wouldn't even allow me to chamber a round!!! Gonna order different type magazine.
Need to clean barrel make a little big of tansfort port and need to change the valve spring
ok thanks
When mine arrived, I had to run over 50 cleaning patches and then bore mops to get it clean. Dirtiest barrel of any air rifle I have ever seen. Shoots amazing once you get the crap out of the barrel.
i just sent back a .22 avenger because i was getting nowhere near the shot counts others were getting after the third shot string- the first two- @ 1900 reg roughly (hard to gauge with the small reg meter), got 113 the first string within a 20 spread range- 98 the second- then it began dropping bad- by around the 9'th or so string, i was getting only 52 consistent shots within the 20 spread range- and this was even way down on 1400 reg with only 1/4 turn (Could not get a setting where i was getting under about 880 or so- Even @ 1400 reg- something just wasn't right)
So, i was getting low shot count, and high fps even with low settings- I went back up to the 1800 reg setting, 1/4 turn still, and was getting about 950 fps- all the testing was done with 14.3 gr- Emailed Tech support- they didn't know what was going on, so sent it back for exchange- i coulda lived with a drop of say 20 shots in the shot count after a few strings or so- maybe 30, but not 65- that seemed a bit much. I took a tissue laid it over the breach, but saw no air movement- so i don't think the probe seal was bad-
Whatever was going on wasn't allowing me to get lower fps, and of course a good high shot count- I woudl think i should be able to regulate it down low enough to get in the 600 fps range if i wanted to? (Not that i would, but i should be able to shouldn't i?)
Can anybody tell me how long it takes you to receive your gun once you order it
depends on who you ordered it from.. but usually about a week
i bought mine on ebay and had it in a week.
Bought mine from Airgun Depot and it arrived in 3 days. Mine is the 25 caliber Bullpup version. Best air rifle I've ever owned!
Thats the valve leaking. When the regulator leaks the air does not go out of the barrel. Mine was leaking from a combination of bad orings lubed with that horrible brown chineze grease in the pressure tubes. New orings wiht the right silicone grease and it good now. My regulator does creep up in pressure. Am working on that. Maybe new parts made or a whole new reg. Sadly cojona 🤓🧐is in the way........
What you did wrong was to screw the hammer spring screw in 5.5 turns to start off with. You should have started with the screw turned all the way cc (back) and then started to turn the screw cw (right - in) to increase the pressure. Thats why your first one failed!
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Cheers brother!
Great video
Sadly, I also had problems with my (several) Avenger's. And I don't drink :)
Beer and guns, good combination
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
you sound like your drunk. fyi, the clip on this rifle will only fit this rifle. these are not as wide as the benjamin style clip.
They are magazines, not "clips".
Somebody shouldn't mess with things.
Need more dog.
Lol Avenger likes 2600 to 2800 reg Your a mess Good luck but ya did make me laugh !