I have used to listen calssical music since i was 16 yeas old n during these 44 years from that time my hearing skill progressed very much but i couldnt find any composers like beethoven n any conductor like karajan.
La grandezza del maestro Beethoven sta nella grande varietà di arie sinfoniche il movimento 2 della ottava sinfonia sembrerebbe quasi una overtour Verdiana. Ditemi che mondo sarebbe stato senza di LUI. Gloria eterna a questo uomo
Could you imagine standing in front of the orchestra, conducting while this is played? There are so many sublime moments in this symphony, it amazes me.
100% yes. I would extend that "underrated" to the whole 8th, along with the 7th and partially the 4th. They are so full of subtle "non-classical" nuances paired with great orchestral development - those are really shiny gems in his symphonic works.
@@knorgl It's like when you read or hear that the best symphonies are the odd ones and things like that. The fourth, the eighth and the seventh, each is better than the other. What in my opinion is Beethoven's least great symphony is the second, but the first movement of the second is also very good. The first symphony is not far behind.
An incandescently brilliant performance of Beethoven's personal favorite symphony. Yes, you gotta wonder about those 106 people who disliked this masterful performance. It is sheer perfection.
Sorry I have to disagree. Listened to all of Karajan's performance of Beethoven's symphonies on TV a long time ago. Technically brilliant, but he does not capture the Beethoven beat and passion. It makes the performance pedestrian as if the orchestra are playing all he right notes but can't wait to go to the pub. Listen to Bernstein, he knows the mind of Beethoven. Eroica and the 8th, superb perfomances.
This is the eighth gem in beethoven string of nine uncomparable Symphonies. It's also the shortest nonetheless one of the sweetest of all Symphonic music.
There has not been a more dramatic turning point in the history of music than Beethoven. With him, music becomes personal and deeply humane, vacillating restlessly between the constraints of the individual self and the yearning for absolute freedom. This is most obvious in his symphonies and string quartets.
Beethoven wasn't the turning point. He was the peak. He represented the perfect balance between personal/humane/absolute freedom while still operating under sound classical rules of constraint and logic. After him, music descends towards subjectivism and becomes less universal/relatable, a silver age.
La conocí, como apasionado de la música, ya de adolescente. Este genio es muy genio, pero de sus sinfonías me quedo con ésta, quizá de las menos populares. Gracias Música, gracias músicos por alimentar nuestro espíritu, incluso en los peores momentos.
I was this year in a concert with the conductor Javier Perianes in the Laiezhalle in Hamburg. It was so fantastic to hear the Symphony No.8 F#Major live. The Orchester have the name " Hamburger Symphoniker:
Het 2e deel van de 8e symfonie was de herkenningsmelodie die we in de 6e klas zelf uitzochten voor een radioprogramma over klassieke muziek. Dit was mijn kennismaking met Beethoven.
La 2ème partie de la 8e Symphonie fut la chanson de thème à la 6e année uitzochten libre pour une émission de radio sur la musique classique. Ce fut mon initiation à Beethoven. C’est le néerlandais, mais vous aussi, Merci
La metodología musical de Beethoven es indescriptible, como su primera sinfonía evolución hasta escribir la 9 sinfonía que hasta la hizo hablar. Really
Меня несколько удивляют комментарии, хотя я, конечно, не собираюсь никого оскорблять или доказывать противоположное уважаемому мною мнению комментаторов, которые считают, что 8 симфония - не лучшее, что есть у Бетховена. Это произведение, особенно первая часть, отнюдь (для меня) не походит на легкое и танцевальное. Это произведение наполнено таким мощным внутренним светом, таким чистым, тонким, безошибочным Слухом, который несколько отличается от нашего земного слуха, таким безукоризненным вкусом, что невольно воспринимаешь эту симфонию как преподнесенный слушателю большой подарок, первый продукт Чистого Творения, без каких-то внешних раздражителей, обнаженной Души, обнаженного в своей боли и внезапной беспомощности внутреннего мира композитора, а это в любом случае должно восприниматься с глубокой благодарностью. 8 симфонию, мне кажется, тоже можно назвать Героической. Даже с большим правом, чем 3. Впрочем, об этом судить не нам.
This is the first time I listen to Beethoven's 8th symphony. Now all the drums and basses are scaled down from the "Heroic Period" and there is a feeling of lightness and joyfulness (F-Major). Very enjoyable, it comes pretty much closer to a composition of Mozart! Except the finale, which is typical Beethoven: Heavy and somewhat bombastic.
+Marianne Uhrendorf Before making that kind of comments you should listen more often Beethoven 8th's symphony. It is typically Beethoven from the very beginning and could never be confused with a Mozart composition !
I have a bad habit of forgetting Beethoven's earlier classical-style music and thinking of him as a full-on romantic, but Marianne Uhrendorf has a point that much of Beethoven's music (including this piece but even more his early music) is influenced very heavily by Mozart. Although Beethoven is definitely distinct, you can absolutely hear Mozart in his compositions.
I think that both Mozart and Beethoven have very unique styles. When I listen to one, I do not hear the other. Some of the earlier Beethoven, as noted above, has a somewhat classical sound, which might make you think of Mozart, I guess.
Beethoven la llamaba,con cariño:"Mi pequeña sinfonia en Fa",en contraposición a la sexta,también en Fa,porque era consciente que estaba entre gigantes.
My best guess is that they have a problem with something else- they dislike the particular orchestra that performed it, or are upset that they didn't use the correct extinct variants on common instruments that would have been used originally or something. They're too pædantic in any case.
Karajan unisce potenza e delicatezza.Ritmo incalzante e non pedestre. Violenza nello sguardo senza vista in un cervello che comunica sensazioni non visive. Grande negli orecchi e non meno nella agogica di cesellata perfezione metrico
Давно слышал о том что кароян великий мастер ,я многое в деталях не понимаю,ну музыка и музыка многие мастера владеют искуством,а в чем значительнлсть караяна ,обьясните
Quizás convenga mostrar la traducción del nombre adoptado por el que subió la versión de von Karajan: Verachtet mir die Meister nicht. Es: No me menosprecies a los maestros. De todos modos creo que pocos, sino ninguno podría menospreciar a von Karajan.
Драматизм в музыке проявляется там, где в музыкальной ткани, с одной стороны, даёт о себе знать цепочка неразрешённых диссонансов и других неблагозвучий и, с другой стороны, присутствует цепочка разрешённых диссонансов, благодаря чему облагораживается музыкальное произведение. Без этой полярности исключёна возможность Выбора, а сама музыка становится, становясь бесцветной, теряет своё назначение как искусство. Теппер Михаил.
I have used to listen calssical music since i was 16 yeas old n during these 44 years from that time my hearing skill progressed very much but i couldnt find any composers like beethoven n any conductor like karajan.
Splendid. Magnanimous. Thank you Bethoven for this legacy of Love for Humanity that knows how to listen to you.
Esplêndido. Magnânimo. Obrigada Bethoven por esse legado de Amor para Humanidade que sabe te ouvir. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Je ne m'en lasse pas...Que de plaisir!
1. Allegro vivace e con brio 0:01
2. Allegretto scherzando 9:00
3. Tempo de Menuetto 12:56
4. Allegro vivace 18:46
Thanks!
Thanks so much 👍
Благодарю искренне!
The eighth is one of the most poignant. No nonsense type. Yet soothing. All nine are wonderful. Sheer genius.
Beethoven is gooď
La grandezza del maestro Beethoven sta nella grande varietà di arie sinfoniche il movimento 2 della ottava sinfonia sembrerebbe quasi una overtour Verdiana. Ditemi che mondo sarebbe stato senza di LUI. Gloria eterna a questo uomo
5:13-5:18. How could a person write something this beautiful and dramatic. I'll never know. Lovely symphony!
Could you imagine standing in front of the orchestra, conducting while this is played? There are so many sublime moments in this symphony, it amazes me.
For me, one of them is the minute between 15:42-16:42 on this recording. It transports me somewhere, every time.
One of my favorite Beethoven's symphony's and one of his best.
For me, it is the most cheerful of 9 symphonies. Perfect for listening to while doing rehabilitation exercises
einfach nur genial!
Brilliant- immer wieder!
Bavo von Karajan, Bravo Beethoven!! Two masters Thanks for sharing your talents with everyman....
Last movement is pure genius. Very underrated, I would say.
100% yes. I would extend that "underrated" to the whole 8th, along with the 7th and partially the 4th. They are so full of subtle "non-classical" nuances paired with great orchestral development - those are really shiny gems in his symphonic works.
@@knorgl It's like when you read or hear that the best symphonies are the odd ones and things like that. The fourth, the eighth and the seventh, each is better than the other. What in my opinion is Beethoven's least great symphony is the second, but the first movement of the second is also very good. The first symphony is not far behind.
An incandescently brilliant performance of Beethoven's personal favorite symphony. Yes, you gotta wonder about those 106 people who disliked this masterful performance. It is sheer perfection.
Nah,his favourite symphony was the Eroica
Sorry I have to disagree. Listened to all of Karajan's performance of Beethoven's symphonies on TV a long time ago. Technically brilliant, but he does not capture the Beethoven beat and passion. It makes the performance pedestrian as if the orchestra are playing all he right notes but can't wait to go to the pub. Listen to Bernstein, he knows the mind of Beethoven. Eroica and the 8th, superb perfomances.
Simplesmente genial, como sempre!!! Bravissimo!!!!
Von Karajan è stato è e rimarrà il migliore in assoluto nella direzione di Mozart e Beethoven
una din simfoniile mele preferate ...!!
Obra genial ejecutada por genios y dirigida por otro genio !
This is the eighth gem in beethoven string of nine uncomparable Symphonies. It's also the shortest nonetheless one of the sweetest of all Symphonic music.
Thanks
Underrated symphony very enjoyable cheerful >
nuevamente, Karajan..que, junto de Furtwangler y Toscanini son mis favoritos..sherin krederdt
There has not been a more dramatic turning point in the history of music than Beethoven. With him, music becomes personal and deeply humane, vacillating restlessly between the constraints of the individual self and the yearning for absolute freedom. This is most obvious in his symphonies and string quartets.
haha
Beethoven wasn't the turning point. He was the peak. He represented the perfect balance between personal/humane/absolute freedom while still operating under sound classical rules of constraint and logic. After him, music descends towards subjectivism and becomes less universal/relatable, a silver age.
@@TK-tv5un how would you define a peak if not as a turning point?
Ma vattene a fanculo per cortesia, brutto stronzo
@@TK-tv5unhe was INDEED the turning point as he created himselves a complete different style of music.
The eighth wonder of the world.
I listened to his 8 first time.Karajan s interpretation is upto the point.Impressive.
La conocí, como apasionado de la música, ya de adolescente. Este genio es muy genio, pero de sus sinfonías me quedo con ésta, quizá de las menos populares. Gracias Música, gracias músicos por alimentar nuestro espíritu, incluso en los peores momentos.
I was this year in a concert with the conductor Javier Perianes in the Laiezhalle in Hamburg. It was so fantastic to hear the Symphony No.8 F#Major live.
The Orchester have the name " Hamburger Symphoniker:
The Symphony No.8 works for me to listening to it everyday. Because its a very short symphony.
Magnifique !
Symply AMAZING ! 😍
wonderful performans !!!
Magnifique. Grandiose,
Merci beaucoup.
what a nice symphony beethoven!
It is his best.
This is beautiful music and a wonderful performance.
karajan is amazing
Het 2e deel van de 8e symfonie was de herkenningsmelodie die we in de 6e
klas zelf uitzochten voor een radioprogramma over klassieke muziek.
Dit was mijn kennismaking met Beethoven.
La 2ème partie de la 8e Symphonie fut la chanson de thème à
la 6e année uitzochten libre pour une émission de radio sur la musique
classique. Ce fut mon initiation à Beethoven.
C’est le néerlandais, mais vous aussi, Merci
La metodología musical de Beethoven es indescriptible, como su primera sinfonía evolución hasta escribir la 9 sinfonía que hasta la hizo hablar. Really
Wundershön..
The second movement is a lot of fun.
Cierto, es muy apacible y tranquilízante. Para mí gusto la más hermosa de las sinfonías.
perfect...
La dirigida por von karajan es la que mas me gusta
I actually like this more than his 7th.
So did Beethoven!
永远的大师！！Forever love
(Nearest Symphonic Masterpiece Closest To The 9th Symphony, That Ludwig Van Beethoven Left For Us All) (Thank You Sir) !!
This is divine.
También me recuerdo a todos los cuentos de toda la Historia de la Humanidad-incluidos los de Hoffmann-_es mágico y reconfortante(pura fantasía)
9:04 2nd
12:55 3rd
18:42 4rth
VIII Symphony is The 8 Wonder of the World!! Cheerio
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M.
Меня несколько удивляют комментарии, хотя я, конечно, не собираюсь никого оскорблять или доказывать противоположное уважаемому мною мнению комментаторов, которые считают, что 8 симфония - не лучшее, что есть у Бетховена. Это произведение, особенно первая часть, отнюдь (для меня) не походит на легкое и танцевальное. Это произведение наполнено таким мощным внутренним светом, таким чистым, тонким, безошибочным Слухом, который несколько отличается от нашего земного слуха, таким безукоризненным вкусом, что невольно воспринимаешь эту симфонию как преподнесенный слушателю большой подарок, первый продукт Чистого Творения, без каких-то внешних раздражителей, обнаженной Души, обнаженного в своей боли и внезапной беспомощности внутреннего мира композитора, а это в любом случае должно восприниматься с глубокой благодарностью. 8 симфонию, мне кажется, тоже можно назвать Героической. Даже с большим правом, чем 3. Впрочем, об этом судить не нам.
This is the first time I listen to Beethoven's 8th symphony. Now all the drums and basses are scaled down from the "Heroic Period" and there is a feeling of lightness and joyfulness (F-Major). Very enjoyable, it comes pretty much closer to a composition of Mozart! Except the finale, which is typical Beethoven: Heavy and somewhat bombastic.
+Marianne Uhrendorf Before making that kind of comments you should listen more often Beethoven 8th's symphony. It is typically Beethoven from the very beginning and could never be confused with a Mozart composition !
I have a bad habit of forgetting Beethoven's earlier classical-style music and thinking of him as a full-on romantic, but Marianne Uhrendorf has a point that much of Beethoven's music (including this piece but even more his early music) is influenced very heavily by Mozart. Although Beethoven is definitely distinct, you can absolutely hear Mozart in his compositions.
Sorry, no, I can't. I can't hear Mozart anywhere in Beethoven's compositions.
How could Beethoven not be influenced by Mozart?
I think that both Mozart and Beethoven have very unique styles. When I listen to one, I do not hear the other. Some of the earlier Beethoven, as noted above, has a somewhat classical sound, which might make you think of Mozart, I guess.
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SUPEEERB !!
Beethoven la llamaba,con cariño:"Mi pequeña sinfonia en Fa",en contraposición a la sexta,también en Fa,porque era consciente que estaba entre gigantes.
Who doesn't love to listen to a "Voltaren Forte" ad between movements?
Гениальное прочтение, на мой взгляд, этой симфонии дирежером Ю Домаркасом!
Muito bom.
Esto es el espíritu vienés de los valses de los Strauss padre e hijo
ooooooooooooh man this is strong
A masterpice
It is official: Beethoven is the Mozart of music!
LOL!
hahahaha
auffiiderseen.....Best Music His 6.best, many like 9. more
Моя любимая симфония.
I have to wonder about the 4 people who voted this down.
My best guess is that they have a problem with something else- they dislike the particular orchestra that performed it, or are upset that they didn't use the correct extinct variants on common instruments that would have been used originally or something. They're too pædantic in any case.
probably as deaf as beethoven
no one is deaf like beethoven
u mean 34
forget about them...every person is not human in the sense
18:45
2주제 19:25
삽입구 20:05
잘못 전조 20:50
b 21:50
또 반복되는 도착 실수 23:48
코다 25:15
o simfonie , grandioasă ,,,supeeerb ..
Who is your favorite conductor and why is it Karajan?
Karajan dirige come se fosse lo stesso Beethoven... Sinfonia "mozartiana" come Mozart non avrebbe potuto creare.
Karajan unisce potenza e delicatezza.Ritmo incalzante e non pedestre. Violenza nello sguardo senza vista in un cervello che comunica sensazioni non visive.
Grande negli orecchi e non meno nella agogica di cesellata perfezione metrico
@@ettoresanta1477-😅😅
Muy hermosa sinfonía Espléndido Director Ojalá sin interrupciones
My favourite Beethoven symphony. Much better than the overrated 9th and 7th.
I hold the 7th and the 8th in the same high regard :P
my favourite is symphony 10. so underrated very few even know it exists. 1-9 are mere practice runs in comparison
Давно слышал о том что кароян великий мастер ,я многое в деталях не понимаю,ну музыка и музыка многие мастера владеют искуством,а в чем значительнлсть караяна ,обьясните
18:45 ❤
Es von karajan.mejor,imposible
2019?
4:33 ❗
Musica incrível!!!
Pena que Aqui no Brasil somos obrigados a ouvir "Pablo vittar"
Quem suja nome da musica
vc pode escutar Beethoven totalmente de graça no TH-cam.... seja feliz!!!!!
The melody and tempo and winds just remind me of Schubert - did he pick up these orchestration lines from Ludwig? Here?
Quizás convenga mostrar la traducción del nombre adoptado por el que subió la versión de von Karajan: Verachtet mir die Meister nicht. Es: No me menosprecies a los maestros.
De todos modos creo que pocos, sino ninguno podría menospreciar a von Karajan.
👏
自分用
15:50
Anyone know the clarinetist on this recording? Not the best trio solo I've heard !
K
26:24
Heavy Metal en sinfónica acústica básicamente
This is the greatest Brahms symphony ever!!
Oh, wait...
1:40
A mi no me vienen con cuentos antes de escribir sinfonías tiene que haber sido programador pero cual? Usted tiene alguna versión.
Comentar bethowen...É desnecessário.
ネイティブ日本語だったから！オブジェいっぱい！
😔💙🌾🥀
Sono perfettamente d’accordo. Solo l’ultima considerazione mi suscita qualche perplessità. L’eroica e’l’eroica ….l’ottava sinfonia è l’ottava.
What is the orchestra playing please ?
©️22:28
²©️17:18
Esta sinfonia es magica. Me ha seducido.
4:33 estoy de acuerdo, amigo !
One of the best symphonies. Better than the famous 5th or eroica , to my ears
I enjoy it,but get real !
I've heard some critics say this symphony is the mediocre symphony Beethoven ever written, because he wrote it during his happy years.
Beethoven was miserable when he wrote this symphony.
Di mediocre ci sono soltanto i critici che han scritto questa fesseria.
Драматизм в музыке проявляется там, где в музыкальной ткани, с одной стороны, даёт о себе знать цепочка неразрешённых диссонансов и других неблагозвучий и, с другой стороны, присутствует цепочка разрешённых диссонансов, благодаря чему облагораживается музыкальное произведение. Без этой полярности исключёна возможность Выбора, а сама музыка становится, становясь бесцветной, теряет своё назначение как искусство. Теппер Михаил.
Pro libertate et democratia!
il et t sourd pour fair la Symhony no 8
Niemand gleicht Karajan
Allahu akbar
Shalom Haverim 🔯
@@kikkerl Beethoven unico Dio
jai eter la voir en concert
NiRoX FrAyZuN waaaw toi parler bien la france !
L'unico errore commesso da Beethoven è stato quello di non averci donato una Decima Sinfonia
Ci ha pensato Johannes Brahms !