Thoughts on Debian 12 Bookworm plus Downloading the ISO

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2025

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  • @oneilmw
    @oneilmw ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I appreciate the Ventoy mention. It really has made switching OSs easy for me. I no longer have to go through the process of finding a tool that works for my current OS, knowing that that knowledge won't help me with my new OS.

  • @eliinthewolverinestate6729
    @eliinthewolverinestate6729 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been using bookworm for around 6 months. I like the xfce desktop. But is about time I back up things. Debian is my favorite distro too.

  • @phonewithoutquestion80
    @phonewithoutquestion80 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey hey, sending this from my Debian Bookworm machine. Was rocking Fedora Silverblue but felt some nostalgia for Debian, having been my first ever distribution, and decided to install it on bare metal to ride it out for a few months. See how that goes. I'm keeping everything either Apt/Deb or building by hand, which is very little of significant impact beyond a window manager. Also sticking to stable. I am using doas instead of sudo and the Calm Window Manager (CWM), both of which are from the OpenBSD project. I followed your steps on setting up brtfs and timeshift. Very handy stuff btw.

    • @JustAGuyLinux
      @JustAGuyLinux  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nice!! Same. deb packages or building.

    • @TheUnkow
      @TheUnkow ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't "su" much easier and bloatlesser if you want to just "do as root"?
      It doesn't forget your pass untill you exit/logout.
      I use sudo only for sudo -i in cases where I cannot use su. I wonder if doas has such an equivalent, would replace sudo if so.

    • @phonewithoutquestion80
      @phonewithoutquestion80 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheUnkow You'd be right, su is simpler, but for me Doas is just easier to configure than Sudo. Both Doas and just using "su" have their benefits over Sudo. Regular users won't really care about the differences. According to the OpenBSD Doas manpage you have the "-s" option which puts you into an interactive shell with a root prompt.

  • @jeffreyplum5259
    @jeffreyplum5259 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tun Mx Linux XFCE which is Debian based. It is moving to Debian 12. The new Debian base will make it easier for Debian based distros to work on their special tools not just adding firmware because Core Debian did not include it.
    I have one machine with an extremely low performance processor. I might switch to Debian 12 plus selected Flatpaks on that machine. I do not need most of what a full distro install puts on that machine. Once MX uses a Debian 12 base virtually all my systems will be running the same core software. MX already supports Flatpaks well, so I can run the same set of Flatpak apps everywhere. I applaud this move by Debian to improve the greater Debian community.

  • @BartekBroniszewski
    @BartekBroniszewski ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for much needed Debian love, it is sad like most of the time ppl do not appreciate what Debian is and what it offers in the Linux world. Thank you.

    • @markjones2349
      @markjones2349 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been using Linux exclusively for 16 years. For the average user Debian offers a confusing website, 15 different ISO that they like to hide from everyone, unpolished desktop experiences, and a huge avoidance to change.

  • @cezarcj9357
    @cezarcj9357 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm writing from a Debian Bookworm machine also and I always loved this distro. I don't need anything else. :)

  • @TrustJesusToday
    @TrustJesusToday ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Debian 12.1 and SID are the best Linux systems at this time. My first Linux days were in June 2023 and I did the Ubuntu-POP-Mint-MX-etc hop. Debian 12.1 with plasma is really very good.

  • @dktol56
    @dktol56 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Debian installer probably remains antiquated looking because they keep one code base that runs on a wide range of architectures, often with very limited ram and video hardware. People forget that, assuming only x86_64, lots of ram, and a modern video card.

    • @ThisNoName
      @ThisNoName ปีที่แล้ว

      Expert mode, text installer only, antiquated indeed

    • @TheUnkow
      @TheUnkow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love them for keeping that old installer ... of one wants minimal, thats what you get ... If you want live installer, you must go beyond minimal.

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 ปีที่แล้ว

      Debian installer brings memories of the ol' good days.

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThisNoName Those were the days.

    • @ThisNoName
      @ThisNoName ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 expert/text is the one and only installer I have ever used till this day, followed by lxqt-core no-install-recommends ... bare to the bone

  • @brads2041
    @brads2041 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've tried debian a couple of times. I feel like this is the best so far. As for keeping up with software, the stuff I need to keep updated is flatpak not Deb repository so I'm happy. Also I think I'll be happy with Gnome 43 for a couple of years? It's a significant update from the past. 44 has some improvements but I don't think it is anything too serious.

    • @jesse7631
      @jesse7631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel exactly the same.

    • @phonewithoutquestion80
      @phonewithoutquestion80 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gnome 40+ had been leaps and bounds above where Gnome 3.x had lingered.

  • @jonathancadle1261
    @jonathancadle1261 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They have the latest KDE, and that’s all I care about, tbh. I’ve been running bookworm as testing for months, and it works great.

    • @SusanAmberBruce
      @SusanAmberBruce ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you got an Nvidia GPU, and if so have you got that working with Wayland, or is it not possible?

    • @jonathancadle1261
      @jonathancadle1261 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SusanAmberBruce I do have an Nvidia GPU, but I haven't tried to get it working with Wayland recently.

  • @igrewold
    @igrewold ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks man, good efforts
    4:18
    Please in the future, explain to beginners that # means admin/root and $ means user
    So whenever they encounter # they use sudo or su & exit once done

  • @BobDoe_69
    @BobDoe_69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the decision of including the firmware or making the default iso the one with the firmware as opposed to before. MY life runs on debian literally

  • @abaneyone
    @abaneyone ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Debian is the first, the best!

    • @wiz3905
      @wiz3905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No Slackware was the first, althought Debian maybe the best. Except if you learn Slackware u get to know Linux & can take any distro base & customize it to your personal needs & interest that is one stop along the road🙉

  • @NOPerative
    @NOPerative ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That freakin wallpaper!!!
    AWESOME!

  • @Shadowzz.
    @Shadowzz. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thinking about trying debian 12 not sure, I love void linux it's simple and works so no reason to change.

    • @jonathancadle1261
      @jonathancadle1261 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’ve used both, and in general I think if you have something that works, stick with it.

  • @ThisNoName
    @ThisNoName ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only managed to get it down to 480M of RAM at boot, missed the 300M days already

  • @wiz3905
    @wiz3905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in the same position. I'm looking for a stable base & enjoy learning as I run Linux as a tool & for fun exploring my communications interests. Going to install WattOS on my laptop & explore Debian. Ease of use is gd but when somthing goes wrong its gd to learn to fix it. Except Debian is rock solid like slackware. Usually what goes wrong is I break something then have to figure out how😂 Going to download it, thanks for sharing.

  • @fstoplive1991
    @fstoplive1991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is the option for just the base install? Can't use the netinstall because I don't a steady download connection.
    👍 on you video, thank you

  • @josephdegarmo
    @josephdegarmo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm switching from Fedora 37 to Debian 12 or MX Linux 23 with KDE Plasma.

  • @Chris-ip8uv
    @Chris-ip8uv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know you mentioned it before, what are you using for your DM (lol, or lack there of - some sort of console login manager).

    • @JustAGuyLinux
      @JustAGuyLinux  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you’re asking about dwm

  • @scottnoble5022
    @scottnoble5022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid and proven, stability and compatibility without headaches ;)

  • @cloakofshadow1
    @cloakofshadow1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just used your installer scripts again to install Deb12 with Awesome, so even if not using them for the specific wms/de, the scripts are very easy to edit and I get everything I need. One question, I paved over a Deb11 install because I didn't know if an encrypted install is meant to be upgraded. is it simple enough to just upgrade as normal after logging in?

    • @JustAGuyLinux
      @JustAGuyLinux  ปีที่แล้ว

      no idea. let me know if you give it a shot.

  • @linuxrant
    @linuxrant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Debian minimal is the best basis to build your Window Manager Setup. If you don't know how to do it just find a step by step guide on youtube. easy peasy, no bloat, 200mb of ram on cold boot :)

    • @JustAGuyLinux
      @JustAGuyLinux  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly right 👍. Been using that method for a while.

  • @folksurvival
    @folksurvival ปีที่แล้ว

    Your dwm looks good.

  • @SusanAmberBruce
    @SusanAmberBruce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've installed Debian 12 Bookworm with KDE desktop net install, has anyone got an Nvidia GPU, and if so have you got that working with Wayland, or is it not possible?

    • @JustAGuyLinux
      @JustAGuyLinux  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am using an NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 on my production machine. BUT, I would not recommend the combo of Wayland and NVIDIA.

    • @SusanAmberBruce
      @SusanAmberBruce ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustAGuyLinux okay thanks

  • @rickcontreras4943
    @rickcontreras4943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peppermint Is solid system.

  • @BWGPEI
    @BWGPEI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been there and tried that with a full download - not about to depose MINT / Cinnamon on my daily drivers. Just installed LMDE 5 on the test bed with the usual easy / simple install, and yes I use Ventoy (really handy in my world).

  • @cybersechs1368
    @cybersechs1368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sound like DJ Ware

  • @sagarhp.infosec
    @sagarhp.infosec ปีที่แล้ว

    Was using testing worked fine on my core 2 duo, was excited for the Bookworm but the Firefox and few other apps didn't work., Now on void Linux its working great., 👍

  • @lovfoot
    @lovfoot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fyou will change bookworm for testing or unstable

  • @jo-vrn
    @jo-vrn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi I usually use Xfce and Plasma, yesterday I installed Debian 12 with gnome, live ISO, on an old desktop PC. My daughter liked the style of gnome. Then unfortunately in trying to uninstall useless software it uninstalled gnome as well. Are you planning to make a video on how to install gnome minimal?

  • @antonmaier5172
    @antonmaier5172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still a black screen on reboot after install as an NVIDIA RTX user.
    Nothing has changed in Debian.
    NVIDIA users are still second class users for this distro.

    • @UlrichHoltzhausen
      @UlrichHoltzhausen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Works fine for me with RTX3070 mobile.

    • @JustAGuyLinux
      @JustAGuyLinux  ปีที่แล้ว

      On my production machine, I use an NVIDIA GeForce GT 710. Not sure if it helps at all, but I will do an install in the coming vids.

  • @themadoneplays7842
    @themadoneplays7842 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me i think this video shows why I dont recommend Debian, as not only is its installer archaic compared to say calamares for example but the downloads page is a royal mess.
    I would more opt for sparky or MX

  • @jarrettwalck3409
    @jarrettwalck3409 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deb is the best

  • @jamesba-xd7xf
    @jamesba-xd7xf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you install debian 12 do a FRESH install, do NOT upgrade from 11 to 12!, I did a upgrade from 11 to 12 on 3 machines and ALL had bugs that made the system unusable...( settings and terminal would not open), THEN I did a fresh install and all 3 machines run fine EXCEPT smplayer will not run on 12. . there could be other bugs that need to be fixed. IMO if you are on 11 I would stay on it for another 6-12 months untill everything is worked out. . debian is my 4th choice in distros behind mint, ubuntu, and zorion. I would reccommend mint, zorion and ubuntu for new linux users and debian for those with experience..

    • @merlingt1
      @merlingt1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nonsense. I upgraded 12 machines from Bullseye to Bookworm through an Ansible script without a problem.