Suicide in People with Autism: Risks, Signs, and Intervention | Brenna Maddox & Lisa Morgan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2021
- Suicide is a leading cause of premature death in autistic people. Autistic individuals are significantly more likely to think about and attempt suicide than the general population. However, most mental health professionals do not feel confident about identifying suicide risk, particularly signs of acute risk (i.e., warning signs), and intervening when autistic individuals are in crisis. The goal of this presentation is to improve attendees’ knowledge, skills, and self-efficacy related to recognizing risk factors and warning signs of suicide risk in autistic individuals, and identifying appropriate crisis supports and resources for this population.
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I have autism, depression, and a severe anxiety disorder from a lifetime of abuse from non-autistic people. Asking for help is a waste of time. There's very little help to be had for adults with autism.
Spending your life reading therapy books coping in this world, sometimes think it is just horrible then l rescued a cat, think she rescued me. Ppl & relationships unfort at arms length, safety zone barrier
I get this. It seems that everyone I turn to for help just further traumatizes me. I just stay in my house most of the time now 😰
I was diagnosed at 54, and I'm now 60. You CAN do this even if you think you can't. I don't know how, but you can and will. Listen to many different individuals on TH-cam. You will find gems that speak to you and when you realize how often autism has affected your life, it wasn't you being difficult, dumb, and probably an ass on and off. It was you not listened to, or being heard at all. It was people making fun of your ideas, when I bet they are wonderful. We've been through so much, be proud you've found yourself, stop beating yourself up, be kinder to yourself. I'm proud of me, and I'm proud of you, dear soul.
I have ADHD and Tourette's. I prefer Autistic friends. I created a charity to address the lack of support we neurodivergent people face.
@@melissasaurer9588 I was diagnosed at 54 a month ago and discovered that my parents knew and decided to hide the fact, they then treated me like a pain in the ass forever. I do not know who I am. I hate my life mostly. The majority of my "friends" have totolly revelaed themselves to not give a damn. There is no social help or community where I live. I wish I was d right now to be perfectly honest. Thank you for sharing but I honestly think that older women have a network and are allowed to be weak, as an older man people jsut wish you would actually d.
Unmet support needs a basic life is a critical factor in the suicidality as adults with autism. Lack of access to housing nutrition medical transportation insurance because autism is not considered a disability unless it’s quite severe and yet so many are unable to be gainfully employed and be independent as adults even when they’re not considered quite severe. The gap. The suicide gap. You asked for help but people demon determine that you don’t really need it you just need to step up.
So if the young adult autistic shows they are actually able in some areas and successful but then they experience burn out episode of long-standing due to the demand exceeding their tolerance and that dynamic of increased lack of tolerance to stimuli it tilts the scale into a higher level of disability.
Yeah because you demonstrated you were able in the past you can’t get the support that you need and the expectation is that you really can you’re just not really trying at this point… And it’s simply depression or anxiety and not due to autism burn out… demand and expectation exceeding ability longstanding.
You can talk about it until you are blue in the face, it does not help that we are still expected to work to til our deaths in the name of someone else making money above us, there is no open path to redemption and we are always going to be the butt end of the joke.
I hate this world and every established means to earn a income, be it benefits or real hard work, benefits only go so far and working just produces pain for the majority.
You articulated this perfectly. I say this to people & their response is just “that’s just the way it is, that’s life”. It infuriates me because I know life doesn’t have to be like this, but why do so many people just go along with it? We could have a better way of actually living our lives
@@Chloepickle15 i know. This is a truly hard thing that makes me feel so hopeless. Its like we were born into someone else’s imagination, fully controlled by arbitrary fake perimeters that everyone thinks is totally natural, like the air itself. But It’s all fake! Its new, within maybe 7000 years of our hundreds of thousands of years as a species, and its brutal and only benefits a vast vast minority of people in any way at all. And it doesn’t have to be like this. Its NOT just the way it is. Its fake. And we have no choice but to suffer pointless lives. Add autism onto it, which only magnifies the brutality, and i dont know why im even here. I didnt ask to come i was forced without consent. And now the only way to opt out on my own accord is to do something horrible, painful, terrifying, and brutal, which i dont want to do! Because that’s not a fair binary option, its a cruel one. So i just have to wait through it and hope i dont live to 112 like my poor grandmother did.
Benefits are not without counter performance in Sweden, so guess I have no other choise than to die soon. The state gaslights you.
Know what you mean, shitty labouring jobs, sometimes horrible employers, then told you are simple, dim, an idiot, schooling an unmitigated disaster zone, sent to boarding school for five years for the discipline, could do art & English.a closet paedophile into sadomasochism assistant house master who shouted like you don't realise someone could (didn't touch me thu!) but made that school unbearable-well just kept running away then your family die over the years. I was diagnosed with adhd 14 years ago but the autism behavioural traits are there. Stoicism is one thing have excelled in..
Say it again for the people in the back
I wish it the field focused on “suicidality” prevention (the desire to no longer be alive) rather than “suicide” prevention (preventing the physical act). It’s the thoughts/feelings that are the true suffering for the individual.
I do like seeing this from an autistic-specific perspective. I also have bipolar 2 and I’ve been some level of suicidal since I was 8 yo. More so now at 25 due to interpersonal failures and chronic physical illness. Validating to see that people assigned female autistic people are at much higher risk, although I identify as trans/genderqueer.
Great comment
Yes the meaningful use of the brain in concert with the heart is the fundamental design of a God that I am told abhors suicide. I wonder what God may think and feel of indifferent tolerance of suicide. I also appreciate the thought you shared about...suicide. Out of sight out of mind, some people still think to have a mental deficit is only determined by God.
I am Autistic but was misdiagnosed as Bipolar 2 for years. I can testify that people are just as uninterested in your pain and confusion wether you are Bipolar or Autistic. It makes no difference to them. They will run thousands of volts through you to stop you offing yourself or they will facilitate your isolation, anything other than actually accomodating difference. I far prefer animals.
I have autism and sometimes when my mom asks me are you happy I’m like sometimes yes and sometimes no and reason why for no is not liking change in life missing my childhood memories and remembering the places I’ve been and visited and now no longer there anymore and seeing changes to my family members places that I’ve visited and now that they’ve moved away and new owners making changes to it makes me sad and losing my loved ones of my family members too
Yes😊
Thank you...I too love filling an entire page with a single sentence...💙
Comorbid ADHD, late diagnosis highly educated , unsupported, isolated.
You aren't alone, more & more ppl getting recognition thu does feel like an uphill struggle.
I am overwhelmed with how life makes sense to me now... Not everything, but it does not have to be about gigo, if any of your remaining strengths are concealing courage, please think and feel free to express yourself...I truly appreciate your being. Thank you.
I am the same. Although I am lucky as I have a partner, although two degrees is probably not that highly educated these days
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Sew A Side thoughts are rampant in my life. I have suffered from severe social anxiety but never really knew the root cause or causes. At age 33 I self diagnosed as mildly autistic and/or Asperger's. I am now almost 45 years of age and I am dealing with NT people are work and life in general without too many helpful resources except TH-cam videos like these.
To cope with life I submerge myself in NBA fanhood and collecting NBA related apparel et al.
As a child, i was depressed, i wished i was dead until the age of 13 when i first heard the word
"suicide," a neighbor killed herself and this event, 8 years after the adoption, that i perceived as an abduction at 4,was the beginning of a very deep plunge into the oblivion of invisibility, that has never lifted, now very late diagnosed with ASD after 40 years of cognitive therapy.
i won’t call the suicide helpline ever again because i was hung up on. i’m pretty sure it was because i wasn’t presenting my ideation or reasons for my thoughts in the “right” way
I got hung up on yesterday I think because I said I wanted to go to another country to be euthanized (where the conclusion one no longer wants to live is respected as valid). But called back and got a different person to talk to and didn’t start out with that…
I was in a very dark place about a year ago and only the thought of brother stopped me of suicide
How are u doin now
@@turtleanton6539 much better but depression is still there that destroys my motivation etc
Thx for your consern
I appreciate the subject matter but was hoping to gain more knowledge on how to not only identify when a person with autism may be suicidal but how to intervene. In addition, it would be helpful for me to know how people with autism seek help when they are in crisis. Does that look different than the general population? What is the impact of poor sleep on suicide risk, and how do we measure it?
I'm autistic and speaking as a person who has made two attempts, I can say I appreciate that you care about the person you are asking this about. In my experience, I didn't directly seek help, because I didn't think anyone cared. I wasn't getting enough support, was being mocked by the counselors I was seeing instead of getting help from them, was being harassed at my workplace, and even though I didn't actually want to die or hate myself, I couldn't see any other way to escape my pain. I would say, if you do your best to support the person, make sure no one is bullying them, and assure them that they matter they should be OK.
@@raven4090 Thank you. I wish you all the best
Thank you. 😊 I wish you all the best, too.
Look at the mask.
Is it it cracking, is it hanging off by a frayed thread.
Our availible energy when sick, burnt out shows in our ability to mask among higher functioning.
When we ask for help, it's rare, and probably comes out twisted.
The best indicater will always be to ask directly, drop the subject, and wait for a responce.
If communication isn't a option, if they are low functioning and/or didn't learn masking behavoirs.
Compare the energy output towards activities we want or like.
The stronger the depression, the less active we will be even when left alone.
Constantly messing with our routines or evironment is the quickest way to stress us out. If we feel the needed to start repetedly rearranging lots of things in our environment or routine, it could be interpreted as desperately try to cope.
Autistics generally speak louder by actions then words, internally and outwardly. Look for aberrant actions.
If they normal are mostly responsive, but now are unresponsive. Went from trying to look in your general direction to not even trying, their face is going from a bland frown to struggling to keep mouth closed.
That is lack of mental energy, masking has just stopped, and they are sick, overwhelmed, or just depressed.
we are expert maskers and have issues with being verbal. you need to learn about how autistic people work, not just watch a youtube video hoping for soundbites. the only person who sees where i am memtally right now is my adult daughter.
also alexithymia means we often can’t express how we “feel” and if we say “ like i wish i was dead” people just freak out
i apreciate what you said here about isolation. autistics like aloneness and i went to the hospital when i was living with my husband and two kids. definitely not isolated.
😊This was excellent thank you so much
Thank you I was recently diagnosed with autism
Me2
I know am 3 years late but my son with ADHD and was 21 committed suicide 3 weeks ago and well I was unaware of the sign, now I have a 8 year old with autism and am here looking for information so that I can try to be aware for him. Am still on the waiting list to see a doctor that can give him the right diagnosis for autism since hes pediatrician decided to give him the diagnosis without her telling that I needed a actual doctor that is qualified for that job so hopefully I can give him the help that he needs
Now that listing more on this video makes me think with my older son probably had autism with ADHD or just autistic cuz so many things make sense
I have autism 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Me2. Gow r u
Im an aspie and i hate my fuckin life!!!!
twinning!
People you don’t know well, care about you
Why
Some ppl say it it can be an ADDeDvantage?
Init though