2004-2008 F150 Died Out No Crank Theft Light Engine Compartment Clicking P1233
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In this video I walk you through a streamlined diagnosis of an F150 that won't crank intermittently or will crank but not start all of a sudden. The dead giveaway is the clicking noise in the engine compartment.
Thanks Brian - this video got me off the street, in route to work at 4:45 this morning, in the rain. I was able to swap in a good fuse, and go the last 2 miles to work. I got my truck off the street safely and will check the fuel pump module when I get it home. I owe ya! Chuck in NE Kansas
Huge fan of your channel . Ford 2005 F-150 Lariat owner here. 169K miles and running great. So many of your videos have been ON POINT. This video was text book exactly what was wrong with my truck and shut down on me on the high way. Keep up the great job on your very informative videos! Thank you for your (Ford Service) !
My '08 died while driving and threw code P0191. Checked the Fuel Pump Driver Module after watching this video. It was cracked in half and was corroded right through the bottom of the module. Replaced and problem solved! Thanks you saved me $!
I HAVE A 2008 F150. THE ENGINE CRANKED FAST BUT NOT START. IF IT DID START IT WOULD STUMBLE DOWN THE ROAD. CHANGING THE FUEL PUMP DRIVER MODULE SOLVED THE PROBLEM. AS ALWAYS, I AM HUMBLED BY THOSE THAT HELP OTHERS ON THE NET. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I have a 2001 ford expedition i läost all my keys and replaced ignition cylinder and anti thefr is flashing i have no programmied transponder keys is there anyway to bypass anti theft without spending 300 on a key
Have a 2002 f150 new fuel pump fuel filter new battery checked fuse's there good relayes can any one help
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This just saved me a lot of stress. My truck was no start no crank. This was exactly what was wrong with my truck. I have an 04 F150 FX4. I didn't have the clicking in the engine compartment, that was the only difference. But my Fuel drive module was cracked just like this one and my fuse 34 was shot. This happened out of nowhere, came out of a restaurant and truck wouldn't start. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!
No problem!
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Can you tell me where is it located on an 2004 f150 heritage old body style??
LISTEN man....i want to give ou 1000 thank yous becuase out of the blue my f150 shut down lucky after 20+ times let it sit crank it crank it started......made it to my driveway and clunck........ok im a 25 year exp mechanic but i retired 5 years ago so my exp stopped back then so im looking at my truck saying if theres spark,, fuel ,and timming it has to run ,,,,,,,i watched your video last night and this morning i looked at the fuelpump module and guess what lol i just wiggled it a little and it broke in two.......man thank you for saving me and at the same time educating me on this problem i owe you a cold beer bro
Another great video. I never miss your videos and just wanted to let you know how very good you are at explaining these problems and their solutions. I was a Ford mechanic in the 70's and 80's and depend on TH-cam now to keep pace with all of the changes. Thanks again and I look forward to all of your future videos.
I love the way you take your time to educate D.I.Y'RES, I'm one of those that don't like mechanics around my area so I choose to fix it myself all the time. And I always go to your channel to find out before any other channels. I've learned how to do a timing chain on my f150 5.4 3v thanks to you and now how to diagnose this problem of truck dying while driving. Much love and much appreciated 👍🏾 thank you so much!!!
YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!! All the way from Indianapolis the diamond standard in HVAC sends it warmest regards, a standing ovation is in need right down to the clicking symptom
That was actually quite easy. Followed all steps. I added new battery to the mix. Put it together not really thinking it would start...lol. But it did. Added note...I could tell this module had been replaced once already which added to my doubt of a fix. But the "LiL" Puddle Jumper 2 is back on the road! Thank You so much. Another added note. I attempted no other fixes. I typed in my symptoms and your video popped up. I ordered the part off Ebay and went with it.
You just saved me a great deal of money. Exactly what happened to me. Smell of electrical sealed the deal from the rear. Ordered part, changed fuse and off I go. THANKS!!!!!
Nothing like coming home with a load of building materials and boom, no power. Changed the fuel filter, then cleaned the mass air flow sensor. Nothing. Watched your video and changed the module. Boom, instant success. Thanks for the share and helping the not mechanic guy. Saved me some money to put into my 30 Plymouth coupe.
You're videos and expertise are spot on! Thank you so much for providing us with a detailed description of the issue and telling us what to do to fix it. Once again, I was able to fix my 04 F150 XLT and I owe it all to you! Thank you very much!
This video is fantastic. You described the symptoms and the repair perfectly saving this back yard mechanic and father of three a ton of time and money. So I offer this: May God bless you and your family both spiritually and financially, AMEN
Amen in Jesus name amen
Had this go bad, but did not have all these problems. Engine would crank and sputtered as if it was out of fuel. Changed out module and all was good.
Thank you so much for making this. No mechanic could tell me what was wrong with my truck and I had replaced almost every part in the starting system other than the PCM. I was about to drop it off at the dealership until I saw this. This fixed everything.
Great video. That same poorly designed and poorly placed Fuel Pump Control Module is also present on later model F150s and Expeditions. It was certainly the cause of these problems on my 2010 Expedition. The No-start problem seemed to start with wonky relays in the engine bay fuse box, and the only temporary fix was for the under-hood relays to be changed around by my daughter every morning to get it to start so she could go to work, but I finally heard about the Fuel Pump Control Module issue, as I was about to drop the fuel tank and replace the pump. I learned that the in-tank OEM pumps are extremely reliable, and that fuel pump/fuel pressure problems are usually caused by a very corroded Fuel Pump Control Module. However, many people are happy to replace your fuel pump if you ask them to, and will usually put in a new module to make it all run. All I had to do was to replace the Fuel Pump Control Module, and the problem was solved for my daughter.
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Just bought an '07 with 82k and the spare tire in bed. In process of putting spare back noticed the broken module. Broken exactly the same in video, aluminum frame of it split in half crumbling. Wondered what it was, this was the first video I ran across. Believe it or not the truck still ran for as good as a Ford and a 5.4L can. I'm glad I found this video and have replaced module so future owner doesn't have this happen. I'm glad I'm a GM guy, Ford is so bass akwards in the way they build stuff. Thanks to #FordTechMakuloco
Wow.. fuel pump driver module was the cause...The knowledge you are giving us is so invaluable... thank you
Thank you for doing this!!! I run a small shop (just me), no schematics typically and this made the diag super easy.
Dude preciate the your videos this guy here definitely knows what he's talking about because as soon as you follow his advice your on the road again thanks again bud 💯
cape cod , MA here....tons of corrosion between road salt and beachs / salt air. DORMAN also makes an updated FP driver module also. its actuallly pretty good and comes with rubber spacers to avoid that metal on metal corrosion.
just wanted to say thanks. this video and others i ve seen for u ....very knowledgable. thabnks!!
those driver modules are a pain.. I took mine off and put some rubber washers to make clearance from the frame and put nickel antiseize all over the back of it just as a precaution. 3 years later still no problems. good video brian.
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I watched your video that shows this module, but it must have been for different year f150. Mine is an 08 and this one is it! I have no problems, but after watching what could be a future issue I went ahead and lowered spare tire and removed module to make sure it was in okay condition! All good, just cleaned out the sand grudge etc on the module, bar attached and sprayed and cleaned using rust protection. Thanks again for your help!
This may be useful to others. My truck died while idling. Fuse 34 was still in good shape. Theft light was not erratic. I could crank all day long; no start. After changing the fuel pump driver, it started
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That sounds like mine. This helps me find reason to investigate this module further.
This past month I’ve spent 4600$ at ford and you’ve literally described every single thing wrong with my truck. Checked the fuses and sure enough they were blown. I had a nice spare fuse for now but I don’t have the cash anymore to just buy the module yet. THANK YOU so much. Ford swore they checked up and down but yeah… they wanted to now replace my pcm along with all fuel injectors as well as other things that totaled up to over 7000$. I will change this in a week or so. But thank you so much man.
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So was the fuel pump driver module the final fix? Or something else? Curious...
@@ronc4146 so unfortunately this didn’t fix my problem. My truck would still act the same. Which when my truck warmed up all the way, when you’d go into the store or have it off, when you’d go to turn it back on it didn’t want to start. Could’ve been the fuel pump but I’m not sure. Got rid of the truck in the end.
@JustJohn92 sorry to hear that. Buddies 2014 E-450 (6.8L V10) 30' RV conversion just crapped out on him yesterday, leaving him stranded in central Ohio (while in the middle of his cross-country summer road trip. Cost him $1600 btwn a new module & fuel pump. Just trying to see if symptoms & fixes are similar to what he had to deal with. Thanks.
A HUGE thank you for posting this video. It saved me an expensive tow during a downpour.
You saved me man! Stuck in Florida on a trip and you saved me
great video! i usaully just put 2 fuses in the connector to bypass the module so you can drive it into the shop.
Man, I'll tell ya. Working on any newer vehicle that has even a hint of electrical technology installed, you would probably have more fun trying to pick fly crap out of black pepper with boxing gloves than try to figure out how or what to do to make any kind of repair. Thank goodness for experts like the one here, cause I was ready to throw in the towel and the white flag, too! My 04 Ford F-150 was doing the exact same thing as mentioned in this video. Thanks a million for the invaluable advice and knowledge.
I often say that You Tube makes me smarter than what I really am! Thank you for your video!
Just happened yesterday (7/22/2024) to a friend's 2014 Ford E450 RV conversion (running a V10). Was convinced it was the fuel pump, but it likely started with the fuel pump driver module.
This video saved me! My truck did this 2 weeks ago and finally got the problem fixed! The only thing is that it keeps popping that fuse even after I replaced the driver control module.
This channel should have a "buy him a beer" button next to the subscribe button. An absolute legend :)
You are the s*** bro I'm beyond impressed and it takes a lot you are exactly right and you're also the first TH-cam video I've ever seen that was actually spot on so hats off to you I appreciate the knowledge being shared I'm a auto and diesel tech and I ran into this before different vehicle different symptom different problem blown fuse but showed good on both sides just no explanation. So now I got it to crank everything's good but I don't have my fuel pump kicking on so it must be that module trying to hunt one up right now trucks been stranded in front of one of my bay doors. Thank you I thought I fried something
I have been working on my friends 08 ford truck I have checked all the codes an fuses an I couldn't find anything no bad fuses nothing.... Thank u very very much I will be headed out to ware truck is before daylight to fix it Ian so excited thanks again.....
Thank you, I started to pull out and my truck died. I could smell something burnt check gauge was on and the security light was flashing. I thought my whole wiring harness was shot. Thanks again
I think this is what's wrong with my 04. It just quit running while I was driving. Speedometer and rpm guage dropped to zero and wouldn't crank again.
I know this is an older video. But I have also ran into the same issues with this generation f150. When the a/c clutch shorts out it will also drag down the system and give the same exact symptoms except for blowing that fuse. It will make the ses, battery and theft light go erratic blinking and you also get the intake shutter and throttle body clicking. As well as it will stall out the engine while driving or idling like someone shut the key off.
Does it blow a different fuse??
Thank you !!! My 2005 F150 died yesterday ! Saw your video and fixed it in 10 minutes ! Thank you again !
That is what I call product knowledge! Thanks!
It certainly helps with these odd issues.
Thank you for sharing this information
I just had the fuel pump module control replaced by a Ford dealer. Part cost $160, and labor was $168, total invoice was 350.00. All for a part that is mounted on a crossbar underneath the truck, practically by the rear axle. this is where constant water and wintertime salt gets thrown. Hurray for corosion. How clever a spot to mount it instead of perhaps under the hood. Got a better idea....why not mount the PCM on the same crossbar by the rear axle for constant water and wintertime salt because those are $1,300.00 and could really improve Ford dealer's bottom line. I just had a PCM installed the week before the fuel pump module got installed this week.
also check ground connection right above module for the plug harness mine was rotted off also!!
Mine looked the same but it was on a 2005 Explorer. It was mounted INSIDE the car. (Just behind the rear tail light). $87 tow $104 for part at Advance Auto. The spacing seems way to close on this one. New ones come with a 1/2 inch spacer.
My module actually bit the dust after going through a huge puddle. I went through said puddle, pulled up to a stop and went to pull out and it stalled and rolled right in the middle of the road blocking traffic. Luckily I was able to limp it home and get the replacement module shortly after!
Shout out to u brotha, got stuck on the side of the road today. Watched this video found the part and got on my way.
Sweet!
You are the best not only do you explain it so well by far and a million thank yous to you
thank you you just solved my nephews truck . Great tech !!!!!!
Your videos are so useful ..
Please a need help about the neutral savety switch, my 2008 F-150 don’t want to start, only on neutral , how can a fixed?
Wow never seen this, keep up the good work
This was my exact problem... Thanks for saving me headaches and $$
Thank you! You're the man!
This guy is a life saver
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I will have to check this. My 08 wouldn't turn off. Then it wouldnt crank. Tried everything. Changed the ignition switch, and checked relays, but didnt work.
This would make sense for a 2002 f150 as well correct?
2004 F-150 5.4 this actually happen to my truck 3 days ago, truck has power but when you try to crank it over to the run position i get nothing. Of course I change the starter and of course nothing changed.
Also worth noting. If u put a dorman part in it will burn up after a couple years.
Thanks for the vid.
Mine wasn't cracked in half but was corroded real bad. Went ahead and replaced it with the newer version as a preventative measure.
I have a 2005 f150 with a 5.4 and the oil pressure gauge won't always work I already change the oil pressure switch and still not working properly and I have no rattle sense I change all my timing kit
Thank you sir for your video! I recently bought a 2006 Ford E350 5.4L that just shutoff while idling in my driveway. Then when I turned ignition key it had CHECK GUAGES and a picture of wrench lit up, but no crank. Battery was good so I changed out the oil and oil filter(looked like hadnt been changed in while) thinking it might be the oil pressure being low. That did not fix it. However, I stumbled upon your video and learned a lot! Thanks to you I went looking through the fuse box for a blown fuse and wouldnt you know there was a blown 20A fuse in slot 23. Not sure if this has anything to do with the Fuel Pump Driver Module. However, now that I know where it is, and it looks old, I'm going to replace it before it goes bad while I'm out somewhere, or causes damage to the harness.
Thanks again..much appreciated!!
Hi Brian, yup already replaced about 10 of these fuel pump driver modules, whoever thought it would be a great idea to put it behind the drivers side rear wheel well should be fired just for being stupid. First time it happened was a real trip because I never heard of the fuel pump driver module befor, if you don't know its there you are in for one hell of a good time trying to figure out why the fuel pump is not working, trust me.
My 2002 f150 is doing everything u just said in this video
This is 1 GREAT video, Thank you so much for sharing, saved my Butt.
Just had this happen at our dealership 2 weeks ago, wish i had seen this before lol. came from another shop that couldnt figure it out. The complicated things by cutting out a plug on the frame and not plugging in the plug that controls the fpdm.
I have an 04 expedition and it wont start... im pretty sure it the whole fuse box..... The car wont even attempt to start, all the interior lights and power door locks and windows dont work as well as the radio when the car is in the run position.... I just bought a brand new battery and still does the same thing.... Every once and a while you here on click from the engine bay..... No dash lights either except the only light that stays on is the yellow airbag light. I have tried to jump it with my chevy tahoe and nothing changes....... Any Ideas?
Had ford dealer ship change my oil an once i got it back my lock didnt work no more my radio wont turn off once my key is off an i am out of the truck emergency break light stayd on also an my seatbelt dinger keeps beapin also non stop.. Abs light is on also an it all happened after a oil change any idea on how to fix it.. I have unpluged the battery an its still the same no lock abs light an break light is on.. What in the world could of happened?? Relay control mondule or a fuse or what u all think on that problem.. ?
Well after watching this. I went out and put Ford XG-3-A dieletic grease in all my relays and inspected them.
I also realized I got both a power steering pump cooler and water cooler for the oil system. I never seen that.
Claude Rains why on earth would you put dielectric grease on relay terminals? By definition dielectric prevents electric current from flowing. It is used to seal out the elements from corrosion, not to help continuity. Amazing how many people have this bassackwards.
Hey Brian, got a question for you if you have a minute. Symptoms: Truck starts no problem after sitting over night. If I drive somewhere then turn it off... then go to start it again after a short period, it cranks and cranks and stumbles and tries to start but won't start right away... takes a few tries then stumbles to a start. The dash keeps reading "check gauges". I checked for codes with my OBD2 reader... no codes/problems listed. ALSO... when driving down the road... if I hit ANY incline... when I'm going around 25-35 mph in 2-3 gear it will stumble... seems like a misfire. Again, check codes and it reads nothing for misfires. SOMETIMES when I go to start it after I have driven somewhere then restart shortly after... IF I wait a little bit after turning key to power on... it will start with no issue. What the heck is going on? Fuel pump?... but misfiring only in a certain range on incline...? Hard 2nd start with "check gauges" but not first start up? Also seems to be running "rough" at idle SOMETIMES at stop lights... other times it's running smooth. Also, when it's running rough at idle, if I put it in neutral and give a little gas to increase RPM's it's smooths out with no roughness. Please help. Any advice is greatly appreciated sir.
Have code p0191 and I replace fuel pump, fuel filter, fuel pressure sensor, and fuel driver modular and code still comes back. I checked all the wires and voltage and they are all fine. Truck sometime idle rough and you could see small amount of black smoke. Anybody help? Thank you
Thank you for a good video ..I have a question have a 2005 5.4 180lk on mileage it was struggling to go over 30 mph misfires a surging under acceleration i read and watch Ed a video that by disconnecting fuel pressure sensor vacuum hose will raise pressure it didn't ,my pressure seems to fluctuate at 39 psi at 2.7v I took hose off drive it same thing , I replaced plugs and coils and then by passed fuel pressure control module the prressure spiked to 82+psi at 4.8 volts and it became a totally different truck ..snappy and pretty fast no surging no blinking check engine light pulls under hard heavy throttle to redline , it was late when we finished I parked it plugged the control module back in I haven't driven it yet plugged back in but how do I determine if it's the fuel pressure sensor or control driver I don't wanna jus throw parts at it but how can I get the truck to increase fuel pressure with the control module hooked up or does it suppose to
Any advice if the truck runs fine but check engine light came on and it scanned fuel tank pressure sensor? 2005 f 150 5.4
I had this similar problem and yes the fuel driver module needed to be replaced and I replaced the fuse and the battery but to my dismay after I got everything back together the problem still exists. When the key is on it does nothing but with the key out the air conditioning runs and the anti theft light keeps flashing rapidly. I have know idea what to do. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Long overdue updates. Turns out there was corrosion in the fuse box. Now works like it should. Now new problems have arose such as engine fail safe happens off and on. Looking into it tonight. Just might sell the damn thing and get something else.
Hello, I changed out everything you mentioned the fuse and Ford Control Unit and still won’t start
I have a 02 f150 when driving it jerks and loses power I've replace the crank shaft sensor now the check engine light has came on.where should I go from here
This video may have saved my marriage! Now I don't need to pick between her and my truck.
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you did help me on my f 150, thank you for info
Excellent video and content!!! Thank you Brian!!!
can this cause the motor not to turn if you try turning from the flywheel? my 05 did all the exact same symptoms but I cannot get the flywheel to spin
Thanks fixed condition runs and drives
My 04 f~150 is still doing fine. : )
Thanks for the heads up tho.
I stumbled apon this bad part when I removed my bed to paint the frame. It was cracked in half mostly because it wasn't supported correctly. I added washers to the one side when I replaced it. The way it was mounted it was be forced to crack.
Gidday Brian; I have just enjoyed your video on the F150 FPDM. As power was realised on both sides of fuse # 34; did you have to replace the complete CJB to replace the failed diode at contact-A? Many thanks; we enjoy your work and appreciate your efforts.
+gerard kavanagh No the power loop through is from the failed shorted fpdm so once it is disconnected the power should be gone.
Thank u for that excellent video. I replaced a fuel pump on an 04 Expedition. Still no fuel pressure. Tuned out to b that little tiny fuel pump relay soldered into CJB. I tied to solder a new one in there. To many little joints. Ended up buying whole new box. Why can't they just put a replaceable relay like everyone else?? Once again, thank u! And I watch every video u come out with
Great job with the explanation
My 2004 Ford sport trac will start and stop within seconds. I have changed the fuel pump three times until I got it scanned just now. It came up with P1233. I have located it and removed it. I want to get a "Tokunbo" used one as it is not easy to come by brand new one here in Nigeria and when you get one, the price is not just affordable. So, I'm going to get a fairly used one and check if the problem will be solved. I just hope it solved the problem. Ford cars are just problematic.
I have these exact symptoms, can't get a check guages but same clicks in engine bay. brand new part that you linked to but still doing it. fuse is good.
When a fuse keeps blowing there is always another issue like this video explains - thanks fordtechmakuloco
Just fixed a friends truck,told him to change it a year ago,but didn't listen,so had towed! Finally went bad on him! Lol
Great video's! I have a 2004 F150 that starts, runs and drive's perfectly from cold. shut it off hot and it won't start, flashing 15 on the theft warning light (key not programmed into pats). Let it cool down and it starts like a champ. No DTC's are set (that I can read with consumer reader). Any thoughts?
Checked fuel module in back and very little corrosion, tried new keys (pgm fine cold), new PCM relay, all fuses good. Serviced grounds around PCM/battery and fusebox.
I have same problem..what is the problem?
Thanks for the explaining and walk through help alot keep turning ratchets
That, vacuum leads and, clearing the pcm. Thank you for the video . BTW I have a 2005 f150 4.6, bilsteen coilovers, pro comp out back. I always run BFG AT ta, or general grabbers. Is set up prerunner, 2 inch 1/4 dom tube bumper custom by the help of my brother
Thanks a Lot My Friend, Excellent Tutorial Like Always !!!
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Thanks!! you deserve the very best in life Very few people share their knowledge. When water stops flowing it roots and stinks. You let it flow and allow room for fresh and new input. God bless you heart. Grettings from Mexico.
the early days! Brian describes the dash instead of showing it on camera. Rookie alert! haha
Thanks a lot bro I ended up changing the fuel pump driver module and replacing the blown 34 fuse. It started right up I let it idle for awhile a cut off. I keep checking fuse 34 and it keeps blowing any suggestions?
I replaced that piece on my 2004 Ford F-150 four wheel drive a 5.4 l and it there's another code p0451 the fuel tank pressure sensor I was wondering if you can help me to understand where this pressure sensor is and if it's the one that's in line or directly on the tank thank you I appreciate any information you can give me
When my 2004 Ford F150 wouldn't start I turn the key on and try to start it I noticed that the radio went from FM to a.m. so the module shorting out back feeding changing my radio losing memory on my radio maybe another indication along with the blinking security light and the fuse testing okay with the test gauge but fuse burned out like you're talking about again thanks for the video