Yeah, I don't think ScrapMan knows how long range/heavy bombers work. 😂 I guess Trailmakers kinda "broke" him in that regard. He should probably try playing something like WarThunder in his off time to get a feel of how those types of planes... "plane".
In larger planes, aerodynamically you can't bank a turn at that speed, or at that angle. It's the same as to why a jet fighter can't turn as quick at high speed, the air basically prevents it. If you're going to take harsh turns you need to use more Yaw too. Other than that, love what this game is becoming
You should try to make a functional catapult with the gears. Not exactly sure how you would store the rotational energy but there's probably a way to do it with the flex beams. (maybe make a rope of chains?)
@@UnknownZYX_4085 I feel like thats where the gears idea came from. Seeing one of ScrapMan's videos that had the car with gears. Dev probably went "Huh. I could add that. Easy"
Yeah seriously, you have to basically not understand how planes work to think it's going to be stable at a 90 degree bank. Only very small, very fast craft can pull something like that off and they have to use the rudder as an aileron.
There was a question on r/trailmakers about the next 5 years in trailmakers and what we thought it would look like. I think the devs should use the engine in Instruments of destruction to make Trailmakers 2.
@@afoxwithahat7846 How are you so sure that this game uses Unity? It is a powerful engine, and is entirely capable of something like this, but the physics doesn't match what I would expect for Unity, it also doesn't have the same weird stability problems as I'm used to when it comes to Unity's physics engine.
@@nikkiofthevalley Nah, I follow the developer, IoD is made in Unity. They have a heavily customized physics engine, however. It is abased off of Unity physics, but with lots of work put into the destructibility.
Scrapman: when it's horizontal it fine but when it terns or roll it doesn't know what to do Me:you literally going 90⁰ degrees side ways and its stalling
I think the problem you've faced throughout the video ( the aerodynamics feeling weird when you roll and try to turn) could be explained by the wing placement. I think it might be too far forward. I don't know much, but I think you might get better results if you bring it and its propellers back a bit.
it's mostly because those "wings" aren't wings, the way they are coded is basically just that : if [go fast] = true then add [lift] all the wings do is check if the plane is going fast in the direction they are oriented in, and generate lift based on that. there is no simplified aerodynamic simulation going on like in trailmakers , it's boiled down to as stupidly simple as it can get for the sake of not overloading the CPU.
It’s also caused due to speed. The plane is stalling out when it turns to the side which means that it’s a mixture of speed and not getting enough lift when it’s on its side.
If Microsoft flight simulator has taught me anything it’s that when turning, stay level with the horizon line and rotate at a 30 degree angle to turn. I haven’t really made it far into it and that’s basically the first thing it teaches you
The gears are super useful for adding more tension and power, I can finally make bigger hammers with less flopp and more power. Also, I recommend going into the menu, for this map when testing out flyers, just clicking "Delete Structures" SWIVELS HAVE A LIMITED ANGLE MODE, AND CAN RETURN TO CENTER. BRUH
You basically built a bomber, bomber planes have multiple engines and don’t like pitching when they are sideways, fighter planes usually have 1 engine and are very maneuverable
The physics are actually very realistic. In real life, a normal plane will fall out of a sky if you tried to fly it sideways. Try only turning at 45 degrees or less and it should work much better.
the devs should add a nuclear bomb as a final acheivment for completing the game. its like 4x3 and has to be armed first but when it makes contact or gets activated it makes a huge explosion, also maybe a mini nuke that still has a pretty big explosion but not as big.
Day 84 of Asking scrapman to make a Machine that make that uses the steal balls and magnets to make the steal ball orbit around your creation with out any thing touching them and try to take out a building with it in instruments of destruction
I wish you could color the parts. There is a bit too much yellow in this game and I find it very confusing. By color I mean set default colors, and have color schemes that can be pasted on objects.
I think they added gears just bc they saw your video or something. tip: keep the roll at least 30 degrees more than that will have the risk of stalling
This update looks amazing. And your plane too :) For the idea with gears, gyros, etc - how about something like mechanical model of solar system - Orrery? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrery - maybe using gyros to 'cheat' planet/moon rotation on free spinning mount and using gears just to take care of rotation relative to sun / planet?
2:16 DID WE JUST GET A BRAND NEW MEME MAN WURD!?!?!?!? (if it's not brand new please notify me as I may have a reddit account but I do not use reddit often)
Scrapman comes in at a 10° dive angle and says "I'm dive bombing" Me at any angle less then a 75° angle bere minimum "I'm coming in to shallow for this to be considered a dive bombing run" Me coming in at an 89.9° angle "this is a real dive bombing run" followed by me hitting a bullseye on my target
Hi @ScrapMan, i want to request you to make a SCI-FI Looking Fighter Jet that can shots Laser, Gun, and Launch Missile Amazingly, Please it's going to be great 🤩
I understand that youre a Gamer who playes Games that require creativity and doing stuff your own way. So I Know a game called "Crossout" and I really like it And I was wondering If you could mabye check it Out at least, cause it is a Game where you build your own vehicles Like scrap mechanic and trailmakers. And If Im Not mistaken i think you've played it too like 5 years ago a Few videos.
You need to work on your dive bombing technique. You're lacking the dive part which is understandable seeing how you've built a medium sized bomber frame. Basically go up a bit higher and come down on it a lot more. But that aside, I'm wondering if you'd be able to make a ground skip bomb. Normal skip bombs were skipped on the surface of the water into dams or ships. But I'm wondering if there's something like suspension wheels or just suspensions that can be tacked onto a bomb that you could use to bounce a warhead along until it hit a building. Also, you should see about making a cluster missile with the new parts. I look forward to it.
Dude…. this is literally what have been asking Trailmakers devs for…. 🤯 They’re watch TM livestreams. Have to be. Drivetrains and scalable wheels. I was trying to make a working drivetrain in Trailmakers for my Jeep builds on Xbox. I talked to the devs on a livestream about it. Same stream, I asked for scalable wheels too, and stronger wheel connections for off road rock crawler builds.
The reason the aircraft is slipping and skidding in banks is because the vertical stabilizer is not large enough and not back far enough. Coupled with the weight of 4 “engines” causes the nose to drop as soon as you exchange vertical lift for horizontal lift. A proportional rudder to the craft is always important. It affects stability in loops and turns and stalls immensely.
leave it to ScrapMan to figure out how to build a bomber plane in Instruments of Destruction 😂 well done. though I feel like you missed a perfect opportunity to add a squeaky toy noise to the impact at 16:23 as well as a Delayed Annihilation at 16:40
Ouhh they've actually done it. Created all these really cool Additions and their effects while keeping things simple. It's been really cool to this come along.
It doesn't look like the plane is being subject to aerodynamics, which essentially means instead of your plane gliding, its simply being pulled faster than its falling.
day 3 of asking scrapman to do survival mm challenge where everyone starts at the crashed ship and has 30 minutes to make a vehicle, no glitches (thrusters allowed)
When you roll 90 degrees you are losing all lift. That’s why you can’t turn and start dropping out of the sky. This is normal in a plane with so little power to weight.
he relises that lift push u based on the oreintaion of the wing, plane do that in real life like for example most planes aint allowed to bank very tightly or else they wouldl fall out of the sky
make an attack helicopter with real guns and only use the new stuff for lift not balloons unless you want it to float when it falls into water or something
its a scam i followed exactly what he did in the video and it didnt fly he edited it so it starts in the sky like wth i did everything you did but still doesnt work
![These Updates Are Changing The Workshop with Planes, Logic, and MORE! [Instruments of Destruction]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iu23V-XsvpE/mqdefault.jpg)
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I like how ScrapMan builds a four engine bomber and expects to control it like a single engine fighter
true
Yeah I was thinking about that
Yeah, I don't think ScrapMan knows how long range/heavy bombers work. 😂
I guess Trailmakers kinda "broke" him in that regard.
He should probably try playing something like WarThunder in his off time to get a feel of how those types of planes... "plane".
@@Petq011 and it could help him learn how to bomb as well
@@keterclassscenario6404 True 😂
In larger planes, aerodynamically you can't bank a turn at that speed, or at that angle. It's the same as to why a jet fighter can't turn as quick at high speed, the air basically prevents it. If you're going to take harsh turns you need to use more Yaw too. Other than that, love what this game is becoming
You should try to make a functional catapult with the gears. Not exactly sure how you would store the rotational energy but there's probably a way to do it with the flex beams. (maybe make a rope of chains?)
God these guys are just pumping out updates so fast
prob bcz of the creations that others make
yea
*This guy, pretty sure he's a solo developer lol which is even more nutty
@@jordanabandana8299 no way, is there really only one guy working on this.
@@UnknownZYX_4085 I feel like thats where the gears idea came from. Seeing one of ScrapMan's videos that had the car with gears. Dev probably went "Huh. I could add that. Easy"
You can try to build a drone with the propellers and gyroscope! That might be really cool to see!
yeah i had that thought too
A helicopter might work to
"It definitely seems to be more stable in the horizontal position"
Yeah that's why big planes usually don't fly at a 90 degree angle
Yeah seriously, you have to basically not understand how planes work to think it's going to be stable at a 90 degree bank. Only very small, very fast craft can pull something like that off and they have to use the rudder as an aileron.
There was a question on r/trailmakers about the next 5 years in trailmakers and what we thought it would look like. I think the devs should use the engine in Instruments of destruction to make Trailmakers 2.
Unity 2019? Really?
@@afoxwithahat7846 How are you so sure that this game uses Unity? It is a powerful engine, and is entirely capable of something like this, but the physics doesn't match what I would expect for Unity, it also doesn't have the same weird stability problems as I'm used to when it comes to Unity's physics engine.
@@nikkiofthevalley quick Google search?
@@nikkiofthevalley Nah, I follow the developer, IoD is made in Unity. They have a heavily customized physics engine, however. It is abased off of Unity physics, but with lots of work put into the destructibility.
i tought this was made by one dev but he is pumping out content like he is an entire company
Scrapman: when it's horizontal it fine but when it terns or roll it doesn't know what to do
Me:you literally going 90⁰ degrees side ways and its stalling
And also his wings is all at the front which makes it front heavy
Scrapman pls make a bomber ace
Make a B-52
He should make a b29 or b17
b-2 spirit
No make the btd6 BIG PLANE
He should make a pby Catalina
I think the problem you've faced throughout the video ( the aerodynamics feeling weird when you roll and try to turn) could be explained by the wing placement. I think it might be too far forward. I don't know much, but I think you might get better results if you bring it and its propellers back a bit.
it's mostly because those "wings" aren't wings, the way they are coded is basically just that :
if [go fast] = true
then add [lift]
all the wings do is check if the plane is going fast in the direction they are oriented in, and generate lift based on that.
there is no simplified aerodynamic simulation going on like in trailmakers , it's boiled down to as stupidly simple as it can get for the sake of not overloading the CPU.
It’s also caused due to speed. The plane is stalling out when it turns to the side which means that it’s a mixture of speed and not getting enough lift when it’s on its side.
The problem is actually the vertical stabilizer. It does not have enough authority causing it to slip in turns.
If Microsoft flight simulator has taught me anything it’s that when turning, stay level with the horizon line and rotate at a 30 degree angle to turn. I haven’t really made it far into it and that’s basically the first thing it teaches you
when scrapman was landing the plane all i could think about was the scene in madagascar 2 with the penguins trying to land the plane
But I have to say though... That plane acts a lot more realistic than I expected it to.
In IRL flying they stay under a certain roll angle because even real planes can't stay up flying constantly at 90°
You basically build a WW2 bomber...You also could have saved a lot of time by right away building the same controls a plane has...
Please revisit your tank design with the new gears! Would love to see how it turns out with these new parts.
Really cool stuff! I wish Scrap Mechanic would update this quick.
It’s like those seed pods in the beginning, just the way it spreads out, super satisfying.
You should make tank tracks using the gears, and maybe the drive train.
The gears are super useful for adding more tension and power, I can finally make bigger hammers with less flopp and more power.
Also, I recommend going into the menu, for this map when testing out flyers, just clicking "Delete Structures"
SWIVELS HAVE A LIMITED ANGLE MODE, AND CAN RETURN TO CENTER. BRUH
Day 236 of asking for more workshop hunters, and day 237 of asking for more brick rigs
For all of you that wants any of these you can help too
You basically built a bomber, bomber planes have multiple engines and don’t like pitching when they are sideways, fighter planes usually have 1 engine and are very maneuverable
The physics are actually very realistic. In real life, a normal plane will fall out of a sky if you tried to fly it sideways. Try only turning at 45 degrees or less and it should work much better.
the devs should add a nuclear bomb as a final acheivment for completing the game. its like 4x3 and has to be armed first but when it makes contact or gets activated it makes a huge explosion, also maybe a mini nuke that still has a pretty big explosion but not as big.
Day 84 of Asking scrapman to make a Machine that make that uses the steal balls and magnets to make the steal ball orbit around your creation with out any thing touching them and try to take out a building with it in instruments of destruction
I wish you could color the parts. There is a bit too much yellow in this game and I find it very confusing. By color I mean set default colors, and have color schemes that can be pasted on objects.
BTW - I haven’t fully experimented with this game so there may already be options for this. I’m not sure 😅
scrapman make a fighter jet please
I saw Large propellers + update and got excited that it was for Trailmakers... sadface.
I think they added gears just bc they saw your video or something.
tip: keep the roll at least 30 degrees more than that will have the risk of stalling
It's normal for a plane to fall when rolling 90° to one side or the other: you loose 100% of the lift.
The devs are pumping out updates so fast I don't think they even test them. This update was so jank
hey ScrapMan, you should try to build a fighter jet/bomber
Scrapman make attack plane with the largest cannon you could fit inside
are u still friends with kan and kosmo if so u should do another trailsmaker evolution video
If Instruments of Destruction doesn't become pvp it will a total waste of potential.
Fax
Fax to the power of 10
Looking forward to actual helicopters with these pieces.
That is actually really close to actual aerospace physics.
Day 1 of asking scrapman to play stormworks
This update looks amazing. And your plane too :) For the idea with gears, gyros, etc - how about something like mechanical model of solar system - Orrery? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrery - maybe using gyros to 'cheat' planet/moon rotation on free spinning mount and using gears just to take care of rotation relative to sun / planet?
I'd love to see an episode of this game about WWII style Bombers.
Hi I love your videos they have been helping me get through some hard times so thank you so much.
I would like to see a air ship build
The drivetrains have a setting to limit how far it rotates, and maybe one for it to return to the center. You could use those as the wing flaps.
Scrapman... how could you have missed that DELAYED ANNIHILATION!!!!!!!
15:15 you are the bullet
teardown had an update
2:16 DID WE JUST GET A BRAND NEW MEME MAN WURD!?!?!?!? (if it's not brand new please notify me as I may have a reddit account but I do not use reddit often)
Scrapman comes in at a 10° dive angle and says "I'm dive bombing"
Me at any angle less then a 75° angle bere minimum "I'm coming in to shallow for this to be considered a dive bombing run"
Me coming in at an 89.9° angle "this is a real dive bombing run" followed by me hitting a bullseye on my target
Hi @ScrapMan, i want to request you to make a SCI-FI Looking Fighter Jet that can shots Laser, Gun, and Launch Missile Amazingly, Please it's going to be great 🤩
You can always increase the accuracy of being able to hit your target just by... dropping MORE BOMBS!!! >=]
I understand that youre a Gamer who playes Games that require creativity and doing stuff your own way. So I Know a game called "Crossout" and I really like it
And I was wondering If you could mabye check it Out at least, cause it is a Game where you build your own vehicles Like scrap mechanic and trailmakers.
And If Im Not mistaken i think you've played it too like 5 years ago a Few videos.
You need to work on your dive bombing technique. You're lacking the dive part which is understandable seeing how you've built a medium sized bomber frame. Basically go up a bit higher and come down on it a lot more.
But that aside, I'm wondering if you'd be able to make a ground skip bomb. Normal skip bombs were skipped on the surface of the water into dams or ships. But I'm wondering if there's something like suspension wheels or just suspensions that can be tacked onto a bomb that you could use to bounce a warhead along until it hit a building.
Also, you should see about making a cluster missile with the new parts. I look forward to it.
Dude…. this is literally what have been asking Trailmakers devs for…. 🤯 They’re watch TM livestreams. Have to be. Drivetrains and scalable wheels. I was trying to make a working drivetrain in Trailmakers for my Jeep builds on Xbox. I talked to the devs on a livestream about it. Same stream, I asked for scalable wheels too, and stronger wheel connections for off road rock crawler builds.
The reason the aircraft is slipping and skidding in banks is because the vertical stabilizer is not large enough and not back far enough. Coupled with the weight of 4 “engines” causes the nose to drop as soon as you exchange vertical lift for horizontal lift. A proportional rudder to the craft is always important. It affects stability in loops and turns and stalls immensely.
I like how the IOD devs are keeping up with the updates so well
leave it to ScrapMan to figure out how to build a bomber plane in Instruments of Destruction 😂 well done. though I feel like you missed a perfect opportunity to add a squeaky toy noise to the impact at 16:23 as well as a Delayed Annihilation at 16:40
DO THE BATTLETANK (whatever that gear thing you built in SM is called) AGAIN!
Ouhh they've actually done it.
Created all these really cool Additions and their effects while keeping things simple.
It's been really cool to this come along.
Now all they need is procedurally generated words with trees, buildings and all
It doesn't look like the plane is being subject to aerodynamics, which essentially means instead of your plane gliding, its simply being pulled faster than its falling.
Day 724 of asking scrapman to build a shrine to the stabilized mug in sms cuz why not when it updates. :D
I think it would be cool if you built a fighter jet with thrusters and wings and added guns and rockets possibly figure In A gyroscope.
16:40 you could say that was some... DELAYED ANNIHILATION!
day 3 of asking scrapman to do survival mm challenge where everyone starts at the crashed ship and has 30 minutes to make a vehicle, no glitches (thrusters allowed)
When you roll 90 degrees you are losing all lift. That’s why you can’t turn and start dropping out of the sky. This is normal in a plane with so little power to weight.
BROTHER build a impact bomb ( a flying dart laucher-droper)
Episode subtitle - ScrapMan discovers coordinated flight.
When this game first came out, it was somewhat limited with what can be done. Now their seems to be no limits. What's next? SPACE?
scrap man have you noticed your like the only BIG instruments of destruction youtuber
I wonder if an Attack helicopter is possible due to the games new aerodynamic physics.
I thought this was trailmakers at first. And the idea of drivetrains sounded interesting.
Cool vid!!
The thing I want most for scrapman to do is build a WII bomber like a b-17 or b-29
Upgrade this plane. Two rows of bombs that fall in a stagnating pattern, fold the front wheels up. You got a good bomber
16:20 missed opportunity of using "Delayed Annihilation" here 🤔
It lacks multiplayer Tuesday, these creations and evolving theme etc.
"There is only one thing to add... WEDGES." Scrapman 2022
Oh yeah
scrap, you need to make a ww2 flying fortress now, and carpet bomb...
shockwave caused from the plane hitting the building
i have no idea if this is right but maybe it cant fly too well because of the propellers being made of the smaller control surface wings
scrapman sould make a rocket launcher that shoots a rocket then the big rocket brakes of and 4 little rockets fly out in random directions
Scrap man expecting pitch to work while sideways that ain’t how planes work
he relises that lift push u based on the oreintaion of the wing, plane do that in real life like for example most planes aint allowed to bank very tightly or else they wouldl fall out of the sky
Is so close! Besiege 2.0 is almost back!! Im so exited, this is only the beginning
the bombs delay was set too high, a quarter second makes them drop closer. and much more accurately
Scrap man can you please try to create my own perssonal concept of a hyper fighter jet in trailmakers with this picture
Hey scrap man i think u have to create a helicopter with guns missiles and bombshell
Imagine when the physics and parts are updated where you can have an aircraft carrier and battleships
Bruh I’m playing warthunder and right as he said he should have went in to a dive a heard a Stuka dive
make an attack helicopter with real guns
and only use the new stuff for lift not balloons unless you want it to float when it falls into water or something
also i think scrap should make a heavy bomber that drops a few big bombs.
day 12 of asking scrapman to play the new volcanoids update
Damn it where's the DELAYED ANNIHILATION
On your side does not work because the normal blocks don't give lift
Every week there's a major update, lol!
Good riddance to the devs.
You should try making an actual missile, that explodes.
its a scam i followed exactly what he did in the video and it didnt fly he edited it so it starts in the sky like wth i did everything you did but still doesnt work
Kan built a better looking bomber but this was your first experience so its okay
Maybe add gyroscope next time sir scrapman that might work