Joan's status as a national symbol would only grow over the centuries, and in 1920, the same church that had condemned Joan as a heretic officially declared her a saint. The girl who had defended Orleans, taken the Loire castles, and failed outside the walls of Paris had made a final conquest-she’d stormed the gates of Heaven. bit.ly/EHPatreon
This exchange was actually in a prior trial, it was at the Examination of Poitiers. There she was asked what language the voices spoke and and she said "A French better than yours"
@@LMKgoddess More like... **At the Pearly gates** *Joan of arc:* Heeeyyy Charles, my...most glorious 'King'! Remember when you abounded me for dead?! *Charles VII:* Oo-oh, Joan it's you...l-look I know that me leaving you for the English to execute you was kinda of a jerk move but you must understand I was only thinking abou- *Joan of arc:* (draws *flaming* holy sword of smiting) *Charles VII:* [gulps of fear] *God:* Get'em Joan! (eats popcorn)
She would have been retroactively canonized as a Saint the hour of her death. She was Martyred. Martyred by a Kangaroo Court. Martyrs of the Catholic Church are legally considered Saints from the moment of death.
I know that's supposed to sound all heroic and romantic and whatnot, but given that hearts look like bloody lumps of raw meat, it actually sounds disgusting.
A couple of brief points: The trial lacked ecclesiastical legitimacy. Cauchon lacked the jurisdiction to question Joan and the man he sent to investigate her home village whether she was a virgin was robbed of his promised salary. Plus, Cauchon also stacked Pro-English clergy to supervise the trial and violated the law further by denying Joan a legal adviser. Joan asked for French clergy to make it look impartial and balanced. They refused. The Vice-Inquisitor himself complained about this and was threatened with murder to stay in line. Several others said that it was the Church's right to conduct these trials, rather than a politically motivated court. Cauchon ignored all of them and proceeded. There was also the context needed for cross-dressing at the time. Catholic doctrine AT THE TIME dictated that it was fine for women to wear male clothing as a necessity, including protection from rape, as Joan had later testified that an English Lord had come into her cell for obvious reasons and that soldiers had taken her dress away, leaving her with nothing else to wear. In light of this context, all of Europe could see that her trial was a sham. So no one objected when Charles called for a re-trial, not even the English. The Pope himself authorized it and they followed Church law and found that certain and important parts of the testimony had been falsified to disprove Joan. This whole ordeal was supposed to be Cauchon's moment of glory for the Church. It proved instead to be the greatest shame he had ever brought upon it. For this, he was posthumously excommunicated. Okay, so more than a few points, but there you go.
It’s amazing that just that little bit of extra information shows just how far Cauchon had stretched and bended the Catholic laws, just to kill the Heroine of France…
My mother worked as an au pair in France in the 80s. Her host family would always slander the English and speak ill of them. She finally asked her host mother why they disliked the English so much. The host mother looked her deep in the eyes, and with a solemn voice said "They killed Joan of Arc".
I guess 886,000 British soldiers dying in defense of France during WWI, including the gruesome Battle of the Somme in 1916, was not enough to wash away the English sin of killing Joan of Arc for some Frenchmen, huh?
@@Dr_Weirdoohow does that matter the British still defend French land even though it wasn’t there own and hundreds of thousands died for the French people yet this lady can’t get over something that happend over 600 years ago
"They burned Joan of Arc." "Dang. Now how can we sat God's on our side?" "Well, there's that shepherd with stigmata..." "Alright, bring him in. Let's hope the English don't get to this one..."
@@Poffean "We just got word back from the English. They said we were idolizing a witch." "Dammit. If only there was some way to prove Joan's saintliness..." "How about a trial, once we get a quorum of bishops on our side?" "Sounds good to me!"
You know for a bunch guys who are so proud of their knowledge of theocracy and church doctrine, they seemed completely blind to the fact they were basically doing the same thing to Joan that the Pharisees and the Romans did to Jesus. A random person emerges from a nowhere village claiming a divine message, gains a following, performs miracles and incredible feats, triumphs where others thought were impossible, is betrayed and given up to the enemy, and charged in a kangaroo court that wasp politically motivated. She even answers the same heresy questions with the same wit and quickness as Big J, when he was questioned. Then is executed only to gain an even bigger following in death. For all their research, and trick questions they seemed to completely unable to read the signs that were right in front of them.
Dostoyevsky writes of this in the Grand Inquisitor chapter of The Brothers Karamazov. IfJesus himself were to reappear on earth,the very church would be the first to persecute him. Some patrons of organized religion are often believers' most formidable opponents.
@David McConville Not that much different from how things used to be then ? Or well, then you get Fate Zero. Which is extremely pragmatic. There weren't really any miracles in that one, but there certainly was a disaster.
Gilgamesh: Gotta agree with you there mongrel. This mongrel here is even more entertaining than the last one. Jeanne: the last one? Gilgamesh: Yeah, the last one said something about want to not become king or something. Anyway, continue.
Don't know why, but the end made me teary. What an awesome story, in the end Joan got recognized for wanting the greater good for her people. Amazing last episode!
Not even THE SPANISH INQUISITION EXPECTS….THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!! Really mate? Guess it’s time we go home then…don’t expect to be inquisiting people today…😅
And they won’t call me mother, Or sister, or wife. They will know me or not by the strength of my life! I will burn with a light of my own! They’ll know me as Joan, They’ll know me as Joan! Edit: just like to clarify that this from the song Joan by Heather Dale, which you should go check out. She’s awesome, the song is awesome, and thank you for so many likes
@@dylanchouinard6141 That was good I heard the tune in my head as I read it, I never really liked that song of her's but I like your lyrics. My favorite songs of hers is Mordreds lulaby and tristan and isolt.
Bishop Pierre Cauchon was also posthumously excommunicated for breaking church rules in pursuit of secular politics. In other words, the church said "this bishop is in Hell".
Probably in Hell. The Church can never be certain someone is in Hell, and refuses to make such claims even in Excommunication. There is no way of knowing that someone didn't recant on their death bed, so that's the Church basically going as far as they can condemning him save for the possibility of a universal caveat.
*Joan sitting with the other Saints as they discuss how to defeat the armies of hell* Other Saint: "Okay we need to think carefully, anyone have any ideas?" Joan: "Okay I got this how about we just get our armies and GET EM!"
@@MizantropMan from what i understand that's both true and untrue, my understanding(as told by my churches pastor) is that heaven/hell both exist in a similar fashion to God in that they are outside of time this means that one could be both praising God and prepping for the final battle while fighting the battle etc. etc. with that said there is no way to prove this but it would make a degree of sense considering God is considered to be outside the scope of time. in the end though we wont know till we get there
MizantropMan If Revelation is not just an allegory for the brutality of Emperor Nero and the Romans, then Saints and Angels will help Jesus defeat Satan in a Battle Royale
Imagine a country with Justinian as it's ruler, Bismarck as it's primeminister, a reformed John Blunt in charge of it's treasury, John Snow as it's surgeon general, Nzinga as it's chief diplomat, Admiral Yi in charge of the navy, Joan in charge of home defense, and Belisarius, Scipio, Hannibal, Rommel, and Oda Nobunaga as generals.
That last line though! Also, "Visions of a Martyr" is one of the greatest themes in all of Extra History; it's half the reason I come back to this story ever so often.
@@Cancoillotteman I don't blame Jeanne for her heated contempt against the English for what they did to her home. War, no matter which side you are on, brings out the monster in all of us.
@@Cooldude-ko7ps They Jesusified her by killing her this way, they effectively "crucified" (they burnt her, but you know what I mean) when they killed her. Also, because she was devoutly Christian, and as a final "I Love God" moment she screamed Jesus.
Doesn't matter if the voices she heard were real or not. What she did for France, should at least make her a national hero. EDIT: And the fact she was brutally tortured, only cos she was the way she was, and still didn't renounce her beliefs, does make her a hero in my book.
You know in a way Joan's voices kept their promise, Joan was delivered from captivity just not in the way she thought. She was set free from her mortal shell to spend eternity in heaven. God knew that she would die, and that she would become a symbol of france's greatness for centuries to come.
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At the time of Joan of Arc’s birth, France was embroiled in a long-running war with England known as the Hundred Years’ War; the dispute began over who would be the heir to the French throne. By the early 15th century, northern France was a lawless frontier of marauding armies.
I've always loved Joan. When I was little, about seven, I had the "Wishbone" episode about her ("Bone of Arc") on VHS and I'd watch it all the time, running around my living room acting out her part. To me, Joan is a symbol that faith in the divine and following an organized religion are not the same things, and that the greatest patriotism you can show to your country is to question its leaders. Joan, an illiterate peasant girl who'd grown up in nature, and indeed first heard her voices there, was more devout and sharply witted about her beliefs than learned theologians. She fought for her king and believed in his right to rule yet wasn't afraid to speak her mind or take action when their political views differed. In short, Joan lives through the ages as an example of what happens when you come to truly know yourself, strive for a higher good, and refuse to let anyone define you as otherwise. Wherever your spirit is now, brave lady, I hope it's at peace. Blessed be, beautiful Joan. )O(
That last line was the most goosebumps-giving line, right next to “The Martial Lord of Loyalty” and “The Seminal Catastrophe has begun.” My god that was awesome.
I can't believe I teared up. OMG!! I guess I am so proud of her. I wish we would support our teens to go for their dreams as her parents did for her. They have so much to give if we support them. What a gallant young lady. Firm to her convictions. How political our world is...
Every time I see or read about Joan's execution, I find myself imagining one of her followers walking out of the crowd, and climbing onto the already aflame pyre to burn with her so she won't die alone as a final act of loyalty, and friendship.
cheezemonkeyeater more like... not living ahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaGhgGggagagahGAGAGAGAGAGAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAGSGAGAGSYAHHSGSGSHWHEIEJSHJSHSNSJWSBEJJSJSJEJAJJJGJGJGJGJJHSHHSJSHSHSH
thats implying hell is a real place and not just a story meant to control uneducated masses invented by some dirty desert dwellers with less knowledge of the natural world then one of today's 5 year olds.
"And the flames, they followed Joan of Arc As she came riding through the dark No man to keep her armour bright No man to see her through this dark and smoky night" "
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Hey Extra History, congratulations on yet another amazing series! I'd like to give you a few ideas on future Extra History series I'd love to see you guys do: -The Third Crusade (from the Battle Of Hattin to the Battle Of Jaffa). -The History Of The Knights Templar. -The History Of The Teutonic Knights. -The History Of The Knights Hospitaller. -The History Of El Cid. -The History Of The Vandals (particularly King Geiseric and his son Hunneric). -The Wars Of The Roses. -The Reign Of King Henry VIII. -The History Of The Order Of The Dragon (and connected to that one, the History Of Vlad Tepes). -The History Of Attila The Hun.
I can only imagine if someone told her what her legacy would be. I mean it's been over 400 years since then, and the church right by me is called Saint Joan of Arc.
I bet if Walpole was in the trial helping her he would have probably managed to convict every one of the acusers made her a saint and then somehow made money from the event
Ive rewatched these videos so many times in the last couple years, so incredibly well made and good, Joan of arc is such a cool historical figure and this does such a good job of recapping her story in an entertaining and easy to share way
Obviously she was not going to die jumping from the tower, a 70-foot drop is only 7d6 damage. At this point Joan was clearly a high-level paladin and had enough HP to withstand that.
Joan of Arc was born in 1412, in Domremy, France. The daughter of poor tenant farmers Jacques d’ Arc and his wife, Isabelle, also known as Romée, Joan learned piety and domestic skills from her mother. Never venturing far from home, Joan took care of the animals and became quite skilled as a seamstress.
I live in Rouen, the Place de la Pucelle (call it "Maiden Square" maybe ?) is quite a nice place. A neomodern church, roman ruins, and nice bars. I always find it hard picture those people gathered on that square to watch Jeanne burn 600 years ago.
A wonderful series on Joan. Well put together and entertaining. Joan is one of my go-to characters to prove that history is often more fascinating than fiction. Keep up the good work. I look forward to more.
To think that he was made a saint in the cathedral makes me sad... But thinking that he is now physically close to Joan (in the same cathedral), which was made a saint too, makes me smile. Thinking about Joan bullying him eternally in Heaven lol.
Funny enough, Mark Twain (who infamously disliked both the French and the Catholic Church) spent over a decade traveling to and from France, reading all the primary sources, and writing a novel about Joan of Arc. I like Joan of Arc best of all my books,” he wrote shortly before his death, “and it is the best; I know it perfectly well. And besides, it furnished me seven times the pleasure afforded me by any of the others; twelve years of preparation, and two years of writing. The others needed no preparation and got none.” I highly recommend reading it. The prose is absolutely masterful, and it's so thoroughly researched that even historians tend to like it. Joan of Arc was so cool, she made Mark Twain spend almost a decade and a half on a book about a French Catholic Saint.
In May 1428, Joan’s visions instructed her to go to Vaucouleurs and contact Robert de Baudricourt, the garrison commander and a supporter of Charles. At first, Baudricourt refused Joan’s request, but after seeing that she was gaining the approval of villagers, in 1429 he relented and gave her a horse and an escort of several soldiers. Joan cropped her hair and dressed in men’s clothes for her 11-day journey across enemy territory to Chinon, the site of Charles’s court. At first, Charles was not certain what to make of this peasant girl who asked for an audience and professed she could save France. Joan, however, won him over when she correctly identified him, dressed incognito, in a crowd of members of his court. The two had a private conversation during which it is said Joan revealed details of a solemn prayer Charles had made to God to save France. Still tentative, Charles had prominent theologians examine her. The clergymen reported they found nothing improper with Joan, only piety, chastity and humility.
A bitter end to a strong soul. Glad she got justice after her death, but sad to see a great symbol of France being trodden on by an Burgundian and English show trial.
Old Family story - Im mostly Irish ancestory but I do have some french too. The executioner lied. Joan wasnt reduced to ashes. A few bone fragments survived. The executioner was a secret supporter of Joan and took them. They stayed in the executioners family for a couple generations - before been secretly hidden in a place called Juminges Monestry. *Edit* The story I was told was it "some of the skull, her teeth and pieces of long bone and a single vertebre"
The City of Orleans keeps the tradition, reliving every year the liberation of the city by Joan of Arc in a big recreation. The city also displays lots of medieval flags in the streets. Many shops sell souvenirs around Joan's legend (of course it became somekind of a tourist trap). Ironically, in Paris, there are a lot of Joan of Arc statues and memorials in churches now.
Joan of Arc is still one of the craziest stories recycling in history. Was she a made puppet by Charles or was she just a crazy woman who by some luck & religious influence managed to start her journey to being burned at stake. Still one of my own favorites in human history. What everyone learned from this story...."GET'EM!!"
"... in time, the English killed him too..." what a sad little footnote. "... she'd stormed the gates of Heaven." That got me feeling a little emotional.
Damn it would have been thrilling to follow the events irl. Especially with medieval communications. - "So. there's this new girl, Joan, she kinda important now" two months later - "Dude! You wouldn't even believe!"
In the end, was it worth it for her? She was burned alive after all, plus all the pain in the battle. But for someone who truly believes, to become an actual saint is so huge, it is insane. Sooo looks like it was worth it.
and Franch continued to fight back against the English in her honor. The king was even willing to avenge her death. She left a big impact for centuries and is still considered as a hero and legend.
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Joan's status as a national symbol would only grow over the centuries, and in 1920,
the same church that had condemned Joan as a heretic officially declared her a saint. The girl who had defended Orleans, taken the Loire castles, and failed outside the walls of Paris had made a final conquest-she’d stormed the gates of Heaven.
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That’s very poetic.
wonder what's gonna be next preferably to me it could be moulay ismail from morocco he terrified the french king of his time
Saying that it was the "same" church it's at least out of context...
you guys should do a video on Erwin Rommel
You missed my favourite part of the trial
"In what language did the voices speak of?"
"A better one than yours"
Going to need more than sacramental wine to get over that burn...
This exchange was actually in a prior trial, it was at the Examination of Poitiers.
There she was asked what language the voices spoke and and she said "A French better than yours"
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That last line. All I can see is Joan outside the Pearly Gates and just whispering.
"get' em"
St Pete: Dammit Joan, we've talked about this...
No. She said...
"Got 'em."
@@Paveway-chan What if she said "Get' em" to Charles before going through the gates and greeted him there by saying "Got 'em"?
@@LMKgoddess
More like...
**At the Pearly gates**
*Joan of arc:* Heeeyyy Charles, my...most glorious 'King'! Remember when you abounded me for dead?!
*Charles VII:* Oo-oh, Joan it's you...l-look I know that me leaving you for the English to execute you was kinda of a jerk move but you must understand I was only thinking abou-
*Joan of arc:* (draws *flaming* holy sword of smiting)
*Charles VII:* [gulps of fear]
*God:* Get'em Joan! (eats popcorn)
@@navilluscire2567 Or she says "Got em" after punching him in the face when he arrives
Bishop Pierre- Tries to prove Joans a liar and heretic
Ends up causing her to be made a saint.
Ooo, thats good irony
She would be over being Saint anyway, just with the heretic trial she was later a Saint
She would have been retroactively canonized as a Saint the hour of her death.
She was Martyred. Martyred by a Kangaroo Court.
Martyrs of the Catholic Church are legally considered Saints from the moment of death.
Francine Mcloughlin bruh you ruined the ending
And bishop gets excommunicated in turn
And the French think so too: th-cam.com/video/GYJFUZEazWg/w-d-xo.html
Interesting to note: some legends suggest that although everything else burned on the stake, Joan's heart refused to do so.
I know that's supposed to sound all heroic and romantic and whatnot, but given that hearts look like bloody lumps of raw meat, it actually sounds disgusting.
huh, never saw her as the windigo type
Joan Ironheart, Maid of War.
You mean Joan had...*Determination*?
Metaphorically, guys, not literally.
Wait, it was metaphorically? Right? xD
"Burn her at the stake!"
“If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
@@MizantropMan
MizantropMan Saber jeanne when
@@jabezteng9872 Bet you're English.
@@jabezteng9872 Luminosité Eternelle
french is apart
I feel like Joan would be a really interesting person to just sit down and have a conversation with. (If Bismarck's invited, even better.)
Bismarck always has a plan
As well as Theodore Roosevelt.
EP1CSASAFR4S18 - 19 Bismarck, ALWAYS had a plan
@@Analog_Anarchist Bismark: "you see, I have a plan"
Teddy: "all you need to do is speak softly and carry a big stick"
Joan: "GET EM"
(Laughing in Franco-Prussian War)
Church: "Will you go to heaven, yes or no?"
Joan: "I'm going to pull what's called a pro gamer move. ahem...MAYBE!"
P E R H A P S
Maybe she could have asked them if THEY'RE going to heaven
And dabs at them hard
Mr. Torgue? Is that you?
P E R H A P S
A couple of brief points: The trial lacked ecclesiastical legitimacy. Cauchon lacked the jurisdiction to question Joan and the man he sent to investigate her home village whether she was a virgin was robbed of his promised salary. Plus, Cauchon also stacked Pro-English clergy to supervise the trial and violated the law further by denying Joan a legal adviser. Joan asked for French clergy to make it look impartial and balanced. They refused. The Vice-Inquisitor himself complained about this and was threatened with murder to stay in line. Several others said that it was the Church's right to conduct these trials, rather than a politically motivated court. Cauchon ignored all of them and proceeded.
There was also the context needed for cross-dressing at the time. Catholic doctrine AT THE TIME dictated that it was fine for women to wear male clothing as a necessity, including protection from rape, as Joan had later testified that an English Lord had come into her cell for obvious reasons and that soldiers had taken her dress away, leaving her with nothing else to wear.
In light of this context, all of Europe could see that her trial was a sham. So no one objected when Charles called for a re-trial, not even the English. The Pope himself authorized it and they followed Church law and found that certain and important parts of the testimony had been falsified to disprove Joan. This whole ordeal was supposed to be Cauchon's moment of glory for the Church. It proved instead to be the greatest shame he had ever brought upon it. For this, he was posthumously excommunicated.
Okay, so more than a few points, but there you go.
It’s amazing that just that little bit of extra information shows just how far Cauchon had stretched and bended the Catholic laws, just to kill the Heroine of France…
Wonderful explanations. Thanks very much for sharing.
Excellent explanation! Thank you!
Dav
Where did you find this information
I can just imagine Joan fighting demons to protect heaven using the most complex, multi-faceted, and difficult to understand tactic: "Get 'em".
@@macanaeh That was more "Come get us. We dare you."
*Rip and tear starts playing*
They will never see it coming.
Well, there are two Joan who can do just that.
Michael: That's my saint
My mother worked as an au pair in France in the 80s. Her host family would always slander the English and speak ill of them. She finally asked her host mother why they disliked the English so much. The host mother looked her deep in the eyes, and with a solemn voice said "They killed Joan of Arc".
I guess 886,000 British soldiers dying in defense of France during WWI, including the gruesome Battle of the Somme in 1916, was not enough to wash away the English sin of killing Joan of Arc for some Frenchmen, huh?
@@pdruiz2005Nah
The british knew that if the germans beat the french they were next. It was not a matter of benevolence, it was of surviva.
@@Dr_Weirdoohow does that matter the British still defend French land even though it wasn’t there own and hundreds of thousands died for the French people yet this lady can’t get over something that happend over 600 years ago
@@pdruiz2005they still killed her
"They burned Joan of Arc."
"Dang. Now how can we sat God's on our side?"
"Well, there's that shepherd with stigmata..."
"Alright, bring him in. Let's hope the English don't get to this one..."
English: "Damn, now the french holy warriors are multiplying..."
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"Just say the English burned a saint, that'll destroy their credibility faster than a sword through a fox
@@Poffean "We just got word back from the English. They said we were idolizing a witch."
"Dammit. If only there was some way to prove Joan's saintliness..."
"How about a trial, once we get a quorum of bishops on our side?"
"Sounds good to me!"
Seriously, were god-sent people a regular thing in France back then?
You know for a bunch guys who are so proud of their knowledge of theocracy and church doctrine, they seemed completely blind to the fact they were basically doing the same thing to Joan that the Pharisees and the Romans did to Jesus.
A random person emerges from a nowhere village claiming a divine message, gains a following, performs miracles and incredible feats, triumphs where others thought were impossible, is betrayed and given up to the enemy, and charged in a kangaroo court that wasp politically motivated. She even answers the same heresy questions with the same wit and quickness as Big J, when he was questioned. Then is executed only to gain an even bigger following in death.
For all their research, and trick questions they seemed to completely unable to read the signs that were right in front of them.
Seems to happen to all the founders of major religions. Followers failed to learn their lessons
Dostoyevsky writes of this in the Grand Inquisitor chapter of The Brothers Karamazov. IfJesus himself were to reappear on earth,the very church would be the first to persecute him. Some patrons of organized religion are often believers' most formidable opponents.
Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees
Meanwhile in the Throne of Heroes:
Joan: "And then I said GET EM!!!!"
Iskandar: "I love this woman!"
I'm waiting for this comment
@David McConville Not that much different from how things used to be then ?
Or well, then you get Fate Zero. Which is extremely pragmatic. There weren't really any miracles in that one, but there certainly was a disaster.
And that's when I bought the horse a prostitute!
Thor:i like this one
Gilgamesh: Gotta agree with you there mongrel. This mongrel here is even more entertaining than the last one.
Jeanne: the last one?
Gilgamesh: Yeah, the last one said something about want to not become king or something. Anyway, continue.
Don't know why, but the end made me teary. What an awesome story, in the end Joan got recognized for wanting the greater good for her people. Amazing last episode!
Me too.
Joan of Arc’s history always makes me tear up
7:18 When the Inquisition doesn’t expect that answer
*Not Even the Inquisition expects itself*
And Joan would just say get'em. They'll never expect it.
"you'll never see it cOMINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGG" - Historian and a certain history youtube channel probably.
Not even THE SPANISH INQUISITION EXPECTS….THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!
Really mate? Guess it’s time we go home then…don’t expect to be inquisiting people today…😅
Politicians: welp that's the last we'll ever hear of her.
Charles VII: Hold my crown.
Patrick Dees hold my royal spalms
And they won’t call me mother,
Or sister, or wife.
They will know me or not by the strength of my life!
I will burn with a light of my own!
They’ll know me as Joan,
They’ll know me as Joan!
Edit: just like to clarify that this from the song Joan by Heather Dale, which you should go check out. She’s awesome, the song is awesome, and thank you for so many likes
Dylan Chouinard what’s this from?
colby mccabe the chorus to the song Joan by Heather Dale.
@@dylanchouinard6141 That was good I heard the tune in my head as I read it, I never really liked that song of her's but I like your lyrics. My favorite songs of hers is Mordreds lulaby and tristan and isolt.
*GET EM*
Yup, Heather Dale is awesome and every time I listen to that song I get chills
I'm not Catholic, but Joan was a hero growing up, and now is no less than an icon of what can be accomplished when you stand for something.
“[Joan] had made one final conquest; for now she stormed the gates of heaven” damn got chills with that line
Me too.
One of the bravest woman the history has ever witnessed, without any doubt.
True but i'd say Boudica also shared the same amount of bravery.
True, meanwhile modern women "my husband did a supermicrosexualharassment while having sex with me, arrest him."
@@frogizel2998 explain what "supermicrosexualharassment" is?
@@jadesita its a joke bruh
@@jadesita sad how I know what it is. Ever heard of micro aggressions lmfao
In 1920 Joan officially became the patron saint of GET EEEEEMMMM
Me when playing MORDHAU !
Get’em
Angel: Do you hear something?
Joan, running after a demon: GET EM!!!
God: Don't worry, she does this sometimes.
We'll keep an eye out when Armageddon happens
@@wallaroo6510HARK! And then a fifth horseman approached, taking lead of the other four and its rider called out simply….GET ‘EMMMMM!!!!!
Bishop Pierre Cauchon was also posthumously excommunicated for breaking church rules in pursuit of secular politics. In other words, the church said "this bishop is in Hell".
Probably in Hell. The Church can never be certain someone is in Hell, and refuses to make such claims even in Excommunication. There is no way of knowing that someone didn't recant on their death bed, so that's the Church basically going as far as they can condemning him save for the possibility of a universal caveat.
And the spirit of Joan looked on, saying simply….got ‘em! 😁
Cauchon was in modern parlance a collaborator for siding with the English. He would be rolling in his grave at Joan being canonised.
Joan of Arc,forever immortalised by her famous words: GEEEEETTTTT EEEEEEEMMMMMMM!!!!
Now she's a saint, maybe the next time France is at war she'll appear to some random girl and give her a divine mission: "GET THEM!"
*Joan sitting with the other Saints as they discuss how to defeat the armies of hell*
Other Saint: "Okay we need to think carefully, anyone have any ideas?"
Joan: "Okay I got this how about we just get our armies and GET EM!"
Megumin Other saints: Joan! That’s barbaric!
Joan: Hey, it works before
@@MizantropMan from what i understand that's both true and untrue, my understanding(as told by my churches pastor) is that heaven/hell both exist in a similar fashion to God in that they are outside of time this means that one could be both praising God and prepping for the final battle while fighting the battle etc. etc.
with that said there is no way to prove this but it would make a degree of sense considering God is considered to be outside the scope of time. in the end though we wont know till we get there
MizantropMan
If Revelation is not just an allegory for the brutality of Emperor Nero and the Romans, then Saints and Angels will help Jesus defeat Satan in a Battle Royale
@@AureliusLaurentius1099
"Alright Gabriel, where we droppin"
@@MizantropMan well, they praise God while defeating the armies of hell just like crusaders do
Joan of Arc....."the only thing the English have ever cooked properly" (a popular French joke).
Vous ne m'aurez pas crue, vous m'aurez cuite.
Oh my god, that's fucking perfect. I'm gonna write that down
Never heard of it and I am from France. But it's true that english food is an abomination that comes from hell.
@@SpookyScarySkitarii I personally love English food, but then again i am English...
Max DDF
What? Yorkshire puddings with a Sunday roast? Fish and chips? Mash and bangers? Fish fingers? What is English food?
Imagine a country with Justinian as it's ruler, Bismarck as it's primeminister, a reformed John Blunt in charge of it's treasury, John Snow as it's surgeon general, Nzinga as it's chief diplomat, Admiral Yi in charge of the navy, Joan in charge of home defense, and Belisarius, Scipio, Hannibal, Rommel, and Oda Nobunaga as generals.
Well the infighting would be interesting at least ;-)
Walpole would still screw it all up.
John Blunt?! Robert Walpole would like to have a word with you
That's Chaldea in a Nutshell.
Well Justinian gonna go conquer Rome instead of building defenses against the Persian thread dooming the country in the future
That last line though! Also, "Visions of a Martyr" is one of the greatest themes in all of Extra History; it's half the reason I come back to this story ever so often.
I think there should be a tea party with Bismarck and a few others.
@@Cancoillotteman How can you not like a plump and affable face such as mine? ;)
@@Cancoillotteman I don't blame Jeanne for her heated contempt against the English for what they did to her home. War, no matter which side you are on, brings out the monster in all of us.
Woah. Everyone. Calm down. Please!
According to traditions, she screamed "Jesus" as a last word, to the guilty horror of most of the crowd.
Dies like a true christian. What a legend
I'm not religious. Even if I was, I'd be a Hindu devotee, but I can respect her devotion. Took some real stones.
What tradition and why scream “Jesus”?
@@Cooldude-ko7ps because jesus was also killed by execution for alleged heresy.
@@Cooldude-ko7ps They Jesusified her by killing her this way, they effectively "crucified" (they burnt her, but you know what I mean) when they killed her.
Also, because she was devoutly Christian, and as a final "I Love God" moment she screamed Jesus.
Doesn't matter if the voices she heard were real or not. What she did for France, should at least make her a national hero. EDIT: And the fact she was brutally tortured, only cos she was the way she was, and still didn't renounce her beliefs, does make her a hero in my book.
She’s the national hero of France, and made saint by the church. That is not something anyone can do.
She wasn't tortured dude..
Like she's a national hero but no Saint
You:"Didn't renounced her beliefs"
The 7:12 timestamp:"I will end this man whole career."
@@mariano98ify she was burnt at the stake my dude.
You know in a way Joan's voices kept their promise, Joan was delivered from captivity just not in the way she thought. She was set free from her mortal shell to spend eternity in heaven. God knew that she would die, and that she would become a symbol of france's greatness for centuries to come.
Hallelujah.
That actually makes sense
Can you guys cover Vlad Țepeş ?
I wish they would myself.
That'd be a great episode(s)
Yeah!Great Idea!
Or his cousin Stephan the Great and Holy who get the throne of Moldova because of him and then helped him to take the theone back.
They have a Patreon. Why not drop them a line about it?
I love the fact that “Cauchon” is a homophone for the word for pig in French.
It's also a cute word for "a bit of a perv", in a good or bad way depending on the situation.
Dear extra credits I have an suggestion for a future episode or perhaps series. I am romanian and we were not very important in history however we had an powerfull king once Stefan Cel Mare. He fought the otoman empire even tho he ruled an small tiny country he fought them off every single and he ruled for over 50 years! Like so extra credits can see ❤
Doesnt Romania play a prominent role in much of the Balkan history?
I'm curious to see that one day ^^
That sounds like a fun part of history to learn about!
At the time of Joan of Arc’s birth, France was embroiled in a long-running war with England known as the Hundred Years’ War; the dispute began over who would be the heir to the French throne. By the early 15th century, northern France was a lawless frontier of marauding armies.
Citation: www.biography.com/military-figure/joan-of-arc
Yo, at least cite your sources.
I've always loved Joan. When I was little, about seven, I had the "Wishbone" episode about her ("Bone of Arc") on VHS and I'd watch it all the time, running around my living room acting out her part. To me, Joan is a symbol that faith in the divine and following an organized religion are not the same things, and that the greatest patriotism you can show to your country is to question its leaders. Joan, an illiterate peasant girl who'd grown up in nature, and indeed first heard her voices there, was more devout and sharply witted about her beliefs than learned theologians. She fought for her king and believed in his right to rule yet wasn't afraid to speak her mind or take action when their political views differed. In short, Joan lives through the ages as an example of what happens when you come to truly know yourself, strive for a higher good, and refuse to let anyone define you as otherwise. Wherever your spirit is now, brave lady, I hope it's at peace. Blessed be, beautiful Joan. )O(
And 500+ years later, she would be summoned to mediate over an irregular Holy Grail War (in an alternate timeline anyways).
Is that a Fate reference or something ? Because i don't get it.
I had to scroll way too far to find the Fate reference
Note to self, make a petition to get Type-MOON to turn me into a servant. Hopefully a five-star servant.
@@robertwalpole360 too obscure and not special at all
Animé is heresy.
Joan is my history crush :”) what a badass.
You don't know how funny this is. Because she wouldn't date anyone and she wouldn't like you to swear.
Best waifu ever.
@@Nonamer52 i am way too beautiful
She would declare me a son of devil
NoName 52 would be a fun challenge tho
Joan & Julie d'Aubigny are best tomboy waifus
I used this to explain to a fellow DM why a warlock who thinks they are a paladin is not just interesting, it's actually an archetype of history.
nice
That last line was the most goosebumps-giving line, right next to “The Martial Lord of Loyalty” and “The Seminal Catastrophe has begun.”
My god that was awesome.
The bit with Admiral Ackbah - class.
Imagine getting burned alive because you changed clothes lmao
Sadly, horror like this still happened in the name of god :/
religion in a nutshell
I can't believe I teared up. OMG!! I guess I am so proud of her. I wish we would support our teens to go for their dreams as her parents did for her. They have so much to give if we support them. What a gallant young lady. Firm to her convictions. How political our world is...
Every time I see or read about Joan's execution, I find myself imagining one of her followers walking out of the crowd, and climbing onto the already aflame pyre to burn with her so she won't die alone as a final act of loyalty, and friendship.
All of your series have such powerful storytelling 👌🏻
Thank you for educating us!
Pierre and Judas live as roommates in the lowest circle of hell
I feel like "live" is probably not the right word for this scenario.
cheezemonkeyeater more like... not living ahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaGhgGggagagahGAGAGAGAGAGAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAGSGAGAGSYAHHSGSGSHWHEIEJSHJSHSNSJWSBEJJSJSJEJAJJJGJGJGJGJJHSHHSJSHSHSH
@@lackingcool127 r/ihadastroke
thats implying hell is a real place and not just a story meant to control uneducated masses invented by some dirty desert dwellers with less knowledge of the natural world then one of today's 5 year olds.
@@DragongodZenos its a joke dude calm down
Joan of Arc - Heroine or Heretic? trick question! .... heroic saint !
@@MaxArturo do you have any evidence to support that claim
@@MaxArturo what where is that evidence she never committed a 911 or anything close and English and French where both pretty bad
The Patreon Saint
@@MaxArturo She went kamikaze on the English lmao
@@flameknightplayz2939 no kamakaize is planes crashing the term is banzai for head on mad charge
Joan meets William Wallace in heaven
William- The English got you too did they?
ngl them teaming up is something i expect to see in every englishmen's nightmare
She's a champion of all of France, she's a legend
The Legend of the Maid of Orleans still continue to inspire millions across the world. She is the epitome of women empowerment of the highest level.
"And the flames, they followed Joan of Arc
As she came riding through the dark
No man to keep her armour bright
No man to see her through this dark and smoky night"
"
"And when she gets to Heaven, to St Peter she will tell: "Just another soldier reporting Sir - I've served my time in hell"
???
@@idiosyncraticlawyer3400 It's an american ballad poem by Frank Bernard Camp called "our hitch in hell"
Framed amid the thick of fire
Aflame, a Valkyrie
She made him click without desire
And in his eyes she swam a Goddess
Hello!Patrick Bojko suggested to make a series about Vlad Țepeș.If you cover this subject and want to make other videos about Romanian history,here are other interesting subjects:
-Daco-Roman Wars
- Michael the Brave and the short union of the three romanian countries
-Stephen the Great and the Holy (as somebody suggested)
-Mircea the Elder
-The Battle of Posada
-Horea,Cloșca and Crișan
-The small union of Alexandru Ioan Cuza
-The war of independence of 1877
-Romania in WW1
-The Great Union
-Romania in WW2
-The fall of the Ceausescu Regime
Hey Extra History, congratulations on yet another amazing series! I'd like to give you a few ideas on future Extra History series I'd love to see you guys do:
-The Third Crusade (from the Battle Of Hattin to the Battle Of Jaffa).
-The History Of The Knights Templar.
-The History Of The Teutonic Knights.
-The History Of The Knights Hospitaller.
-The History Of El Cid.
-The History Of The Vandals (particularly King Geiseric and his son Hunneric).
-The Wars Of The Roses.
-The Reign Of King Henry VIII.
-The History Of The Order Of The Dragon (and connected to that one, the History Of Vlad Tepes).
-The History Of Attila The Hun.
I can only imagine if someone told her what her legacy would be. I mean it's been over 400 years since then, and the church right by me is called Saint Joan of Arc.
correction: about near 600 years
She died in 1430 or 1431
I bet if Walpole was in the trial helping her he would have probably managed to convict every one of the acusers made her a saint and then somehow made money from the event
Diego Frantz I mean he did always have a plan
Ive rewatched these videos so many times in the last couple years, so incredibly well made and good, Joan of arc is such a cool historical figure and this does such a good job of recapping her story in an entertaining and easy to share way
"She stormed the gates of heaven." So beautifully said. Amen.
great job on this documentary. SALUTE!!
Been waiting all week for this episode
one of the more interesting people in history that deserves the series you gave her so thanks for that
Obviously she was not going to die jumping from the tower, a 70-foot drop is only 7d6 damage. At this point Joan was clearly a high-level paladin and had enough HP to withstand that.
That ending gave me chills.
Joan of Arc was born in 1412, in Domremy, France. The daughter of poor tenant farmers Jacques d’ Arc and his wife, Isabelle, also known as Romée, Joan learned piety and domestic skills from her mother. Never venturing far from home, Joan took care of the animals and became quite skilled as a seamstress.
The dark timeline
The bishop really had a Micah moment.
"She's lyin'... SHEEE'S LYYYIIIIIINNN'!!!"
The evil bishop was posthumously excommunicated by the Church. Joan is a saint, he is... not.
this story never fails to move me. no matter how its told, it brings me to tears, ever since i was tiny
I live in Rouen, the Place de la Pucelle (call it "Maiden Square" maybe ?) is quite a nice place. A neomodern church, roman ruins, and nice bars. I always find it hard picture those people gathered on that square to watch Jeanne burn 600 years ago.
A wonderful series on Joan. Well put together and entertaining. Joan is one of my go-to characters to prove that history is often more fascinating than fiction. Keep up the good work. I look forward to more.
When EC release 2 episodes of history in the span of 3 days
**checks pulse** I’m not in heaven?!
18 years later...
English: We've made a HUGE mistake!
English would have lost the war anyway. England lost any hope of victory at the peace treaty between Armagnacs and Burgundians.
I am in LOVE with the outro music
Funny thing, in French Bishop Cauchon sounds exactly like Bishop cochon = Bishop pig.
To think that he was made a saint in the cathedral makes me sad... But thinking that he is now physically close to Joan (in the same cathedral), which was made a saint too, makes me smile. Thinking about Joan bullying him eternally in Heaven lol.
That'd be funny if not for the fact that speaking french fills my mouth with a taste of mud.
Funny enough, Mark Twain (who infamously disliked both the French and the Catholic Church) spent over a decade traveling to and from France, reading all the primary sources, and writing a novel about Joan of Arc. I like Joan of Arc best of all my books,” he wrote shortly before his death, “and it is the best; I know it perfectly well. And besides, it furnished me seven times the pleasure afforded me by any of the others; twelve years of preparation, and two years of writing. The others needed no preparation and got none.” I highly recommend reading it. The prose is absolutely masterful, and it's so thoroughly researched that even historians tend to like it. Joan of Arc was so cool, she made Mark Twain spend almost a decade and a half on a book about a French Catholic Saint.
Joan d'Arc and Julie d'Aubigny are probably having a great ol' time on that battlefield in the sky.
In May 1428, Joan’s visions instructed her to go to Vaucouleurs and contact Robert de Baudricourt, the garrison commander and a supporter of Charles. At first, Baudricourt refused Joan’s request, but after seeing that she was gaining the approval of villagers, in 1429 he relented and gave her a horse and an escort of several soldiers. Joan cropped her hair and dressed in men’s clothes for her 11-day journey across enemy territory to Chinon, the site of Charles’s court.
At first, Charles was not certain what to make of this peasant girl who asked for an audience and professed she could save France. Joan, however, won him over when she correctly identified him, dressed incognito, in a crowd of members of his court. The two had a private conversation during which it is said Joan revealed details of a solemn prayer Charles had made to God to save France. Still tentative, Charles had prominent theologians examine her. The clergymen reported they found nothing improper with Joan, only piety, chastity and humility.
A bitter end to a strong soul. Glad she got justice after her death, but sad to see a great symbol of France being trodden on by an Burgundian and English show trial.
Right before the video game out like two seconds before I thought I wish they would release a new Joan of arc episode
9:49 that moment give me tears in the eyes.
Old Family story - Im mostly Irish ancestory but I do have some french too.
The executioner lied. Joan wasnt reduced to ashes. A few bone fragments survived. The executioner was a secret supporter of Joan and took them. They stayed in the executioners family for a couple generations - before been secretly hidden in a place called Juminges Monestry.
*Edit* The story I was told was it "some of the skull, her teeth and pieces of long bone and a single vertebre"
She was so brave during her trial!
"[She] made one final conquest, for now, she stormed the gates of heaven"
GET EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
loved that last line
That last line? Perfection.
The City of Orleans keeps the tradition, reliving every year the liberation of the city by Joan of Arc in a big recreation. The city also displays lots of medieval flags in the streets. Many shops sell souvenirs around Joan's legend (of course it became somekind of a tourist trap).
Ironically, in Paris, there are a lot of Joan of Arc statues and memorials in churches now.
amazing conclusion. thanks for the series!
I honestly wish that all those corrupt holy men got what they deserved in the end. May Joan rest in peace...
The Iron Knight
I'm sure God made sure they did.
They could have of repented before their end came
Sage Ninja
The possibility is there. But we can never be sure.
That bishop was retroactively excommunicated for heresy (which is basically the Church recognizing that he’s burning in Hell).
Get em
the last line gave me chills
The 1928 French film “The Passion of Joan of Arc” is such a good movie.
This has been one of my favorite series from Extra History. Well done!
Joan of Arc is still one of the craziest stories recycling in history. Was she a made puppet by Charles or was she just a crazy woman who by some luck & religious influence managed to start her journey to being burned at stake. Still one of my own favorites in human history. What everyone learned from this story...."GET'EM!!"
These are absolutely captivating and very well executed videos, just found Extra History channel and am enjoying these tremendously. Thank you!
"... in time, the English killed him too..." what a sad little footnote.
"... she'd stormed the gates of Heaven." That got me feeling a little emotional.
Damn it would have been thrilling to follow the events irl. Especially with medieval communications.
- "So. there's this new girl, Joan, she kinda important now"
two months later
- "Dude! You wouldn't even believe!"
Goodbye, sweet Warrior Maid, You were too pure for this rotten world...
Joan before the Gates of Heaven *Cough* "GEEEEEEEET 'EEEEEEEEEEEEMMM!!"
In the end, was it worth it for her? She was burned alive after all, plus all the pain in the battle.
But for someone who truly believes, to become an actual saint is so huge, it is insane. Sooo looks like it was worth it.
and Franch continued to fight back against the English in her honor. The king was even willing to avenge her death.
She left a big impact for centuries and is still considered as a hero and legend.
Who is the shepherd boy? I have never heard of him.
lexington476 yeah, i wonder if that's an interesting story in itself
There was a shepherd boy who lead a childrens' crusade, claiming that angels had told him to do that and it would free Jerusalem.
Whats his name