Good solid machines made of thick gauge metal. Not like the current Toro’s with plastic dash, chute controls etc. made to last 30+years with s little routine maintainance. I had a 70’s 724 that was left in the garage of a house my brother bought. It had almost as much power as my current 8hp. Did some carb cleaning and a little lubing, and ran that thing for almost 30 years. The spring loaded scraper rusted off of it, so it left 2” of snow behind. I gave it to the guy who ran the dump up by my cabin, and last time I checked, he was still running it. I love the drum auger. I don’t get up to my cabin much in the winter anymore, and when I do, there are a fair amount of sticks mixed in with the snow. That drum auger rolls them out of the way so I’m not busting shear pins. How did you get into the jet engine go cart thing?
Old Toro's never die. Great Video. I have two 1980 Toro's that are still getting the job done. One is a 524 and the other one is an 824. My dad bought them new in 1980. One for the cabin and the other one for home use. I inherited both of them after my parents passed. My younger brother uses the 824, and I use the 524. The spring-loaded scrapper works great for my paved driveway. Over the summer, I purchased a new snow blower. At my age, I wanted something bigger and easier to maneuver. I ended up buying a new Toro Power max HD 1232. Can't wait to try it out this winter. I live in southeastern Michigan. Sometimes we get lots of snow, and then sometimes not so much. Really enjoyed your video. Have a safe and enjoyable winter. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Russell. Thanks for the comment. I started with a 1970’s 7hp Toro that we found in the corner of a garage in a house my brother bought in SE WI . It barely turned over, and my brother just wanted it out of his garage, so I told him I could use it at my cabin, he told me to take it if I wanted it. I took it up North rebuild the carb, changed the oil, and it started right up. I ran it for years until the spring loaded scraper bar rusted off on one end. I didn’t want to pay what they wanted for a new scraper (don’t remember that number anymore), so I drained the gas, and parked it in the corner of my shed. For a 7hp, it was a beast, just as powerful as any 8hp I’ve owned., and I started looking for a used replacement. A friend of mine runs the dump by my cabin, and he was looking for a blower for his farm. I passed it onto him. He took off the old scraper, filled it with fuel, and it started right up. He’s still running it. Luckily (for me), My brother bought the Toro 824 new to clear the snow on a hockey rink he created in his backyard for his kids. We had two warm winters, and this blower sat with untreated fuel in it. Next cold winter it wouldn’t start, so he was going to trade it in on a new machine. He just didn’t want anything that might not function, as he was working an insane amount of hours at the tine. I told him I’d buy if from him, he told me if I came and picked it up I could have it. So I picked it up, dumped the old gas. rebuilt the carb, and took it up to my cabin. It’s been my go to machine until it had electrical issues a few years back. Turned out mice had chewed the coil wire, and grounded it out. It sat for a year, and I brought an old Simplicity up to use in the meantime as I dissembled the machine and diagnosed the problem. Now I have two old machines running up there, so I always have a back up. Both Tecumseh Snow King 8 Hp. Love the barrel auger on the Toro. There’s always sticks in the snow up there as there are multiple snow falls while I’m gone I have to clear. It rolls those sticks out of the way, and just keeps throwing the snow, where my Simplicity occasionally breaks a shear pin, and I have to stop and put in s new one. Those old Toros were all thick metal, and made to last 30-40 years….probably outlive me! If you like the type of videos I post, please consider subscribing to the channel.
@@blowingsnow4fun Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed hearing about your adventures with your old machines. It is amazing how heavily built machines were back then compared to today's machines. I did put an auger kit in my 524 this summer. Very curious to see how much it helps with throwing distance. Hope you and family have a blessed and safe winter.
I inherited a 724 from my father-in-law when he got sick of reverse not working and replaced it. I was six when it was manufactured. Ended up making it a full project. Pulled it completely apart. Had everything blasted and powdercoated with everything out front done in teflon and the chrome parts done in cerakote. Did the rubber flapper kit. Reconditioned the motor and reinstalled the starter. New tires. Stainless hardware everywhere for fun. My wife's dad kinda wanted it back after that, hehe. I love restoring old gear.
Hey mtnman … I had a 724, and ran it till about 2018. It was left in a garage my brother bought in the 80’s. He bought a new machine to go with his new house, and he gave me the 724. Gas looked like Kerosene & smelled like varnish. Fixed up the carb and fuel system, changed the oil, a little ether and off it went. The spring loaded scraper bar rusted off on one side, so I just removed the whole bar. I then fell into the 824, so I mothballed the 724 for about 5 years. Then I gave the 724 to my friend who has a farm. He was looking for something that would clear the deep snow, but leave s few inches as he has a lot of uneven areas. He’s still running it as far as I know. Thanks for the positive comment, as it’s always nice to talk with someone with a drum auger machine. Sounds like you really did your 724 up right. Do you have any photos or videos up on your TH-cam channel?
Thanks for the positive comment Michael. If you like what you see on the channel, and haven’t already, please consider subscribing. I have 2 more snow blowing videos waiting for edits.
I have an 8/24 (not sure of the year) that is a little bit weak in 3rd gear and reverse. I adjusted the rod length on the rod that engages the wheel and now reverse does not work when the auger is engaged. Reverse works a little bit when you disengage the auger. Any tips ?
Hey Chris….. I need more info, and this may serve as tips as far as what to look for. It sounds like to me you might need to adjust the rod that connects to the gear shifter. But first you should (make sure you have have less than 1/2 a tank of gas, or take the cap off the fuel tank put a nitrile glove over the opening and screw the gas cap back on to avoid spilling or dripping fuel & make sure dip stick is in and closed) put the machine up into the service position(put a piece of cardboard on the garage floor, and tip the machine forward onto the bucket so handgrips point up, if it’s heavy get help). Then take the cover off the bottom between the wheels to see what’s going on in there. You may have a worn friction disc that’s causing your problems. There will be a light presence of rubber, grease etc on that cover which is ok, but look at the wheel in there that has a rubber coating on the outside. Is it worn down or cracked? A ton of rubber particles in there means it’s probably in need of replacing. Get back to me with that info when you can.
Greetings from Wisconsin. Toro had some really neat features back in the 70’s and 80’s that were really outside of the box. The drum auger was one. It had several distinct advantages: #1. It compressed the snow well into the impeller, which gave it really good throwing distance. It also helped to meter snow going into the impeller, which made them plug less than other brands in wet snow. #2. The drum auger rolls obstacles out of the way( I hit branches under the snow every time I use it up North) rather than binding in the first stage. These drum auger blowers NEVER had any type of shear pin that I’m aware of. They didn’t need them as their design kept anything that would jam them out in front of the bucket. My brother bought a house in 1980, and an old Toro 724 ( my first drum auger machine) was left in the garage. It was rusted/abused, and hadn’t been run in years. I asked him if I could have it for my cabin as he was going to hire a snow plower to clear his driveway. I dumped the old gas, did a carb clean on it (you would not have believed the crap in that bowl), and she fired right up. I ran that blower until 1993 until I came into the 824 that you saw in the video. I passed the 724 onto a friend who runs the dump up North, and he’s still running it as of two weeks ago when I saw him last. The drum auger Toros also had another hidden feature that was cool. They have a spring loaded scraper bar that will literally cleans right down to the pavement on concrete. I have my skids set up higher, so I don’t suck up the gravel in my driveway, but with a hard driveway, not only did they clean down to the hard surface, but they wore like iron. I neverI had to replace one in all the years I’ve run drum auger machines. Well probably more than you wanted to know, but you have a keen eye for innovation!
Super cool! She's in great shape! I have a few toros in my shed, an '89 824 being one of them. Very dependable. The only thing that ever failed me was the tension spring for the traction assembly (It clips to the chassis under the belt cover).
She’s starting to be harder to turn over using the pull start in cold weather. I changed to a new brand of synthetic 5W30 this year. I’m going to switch back to Mobil 5W30, and see if that does the trick.
If I remember correctly it created an engineering problem for them. One of the selling points that other manufacturers were using was tons of snow thrown. Toro’s drum auger by its nature limited the snow it allowed in the bucket, so it reduced the snow thrown. Second, throwing distance. The drum limited this as well because it limited the snow that got to the impeller, thus reducing throwing distance. In order to to compete, the drum had to go even though it had advantages. Some guessed it was an economic decision. The drum auger was more expensive to manufacture, and it required more materials than other designs, so they went to a different design. IDK what the real answer is, you’ll have to draw your own conclusions. As for me, I really like the way it moves snow, and I think it was a clever design.
Here’s another link to an old 826 ( same Techumse engine as mine, but bucket is 2” wider) Massive snowstorm, and this old beast is really flinging the deep stuff. First part of the video is a rebuild, the second is the snow blowing. Enjoy! th-cam.com/video/-zT69i4yBP4/w-d-xo.html
Hey KC Shuffle. Let me get some clarification. What year, make, model, horsepower is your machine? When did you start noticing reduced throwing distance. Does it make a difference if the snow is deep, wet, etc.? Let’s start simple. Make sure you take off the spark plug wire any time your working with the auger/impeller/ belts for safety. Have you checked that your shear pins on one side are not broken? I had one break several times, and my throwing distance, general performance suffered..Start off with with the machine off plug pulled, and by hand see if you can turn either side of the auger. Each side has its own pin on most machines. Sometimes if pin is broken, and the shaft it rides on is so rusted, It continues to turn, but slips under snow load. If you can recruit a helper, have them watch the front of your machine when blowing snow and see if they notice one side turning faster than the other side…. Better yet, set up your phone on an object 24-36” off the ground and have it record video from the front as you approach it throwing snow, then look for yourself if all appears normal. Second simple thing to check is belt tension ( I’m assuming u probably checked this when you replaced belt) there is a set bolt (on some machines two) that hold the impeller to the impeller shaft. Make sure they are tight. Do you notice RPMreduction when this happens, or hear any noises like squealing, or knocking/rattle when this happens?
@@blowingsnow4fun hi thanks for your reply. It’s very similar to your possibly an 88. It has a beige stater plug and all its engagment controls are levers vs handlebar triggers. Was getting stopped in a wet snow we had and had smell from the belt. I thought it was just trying to move the wrong kind of snow. Then Had another more traditional snow about 6-8 inches with two foot drifts and it did the same thing. Changed the belt (the original had a few good wear marks out of it) it worked for a while but with noticeable reduction in throw distance and then started clogging and the belt kept working.
@@kansascityshuffle8526 Hey KC. Always glad to try to help. Your clue about smelling burning belt under load, and noticing wear “spots” on the belt is important. If it were my machine, I would look at these items: 1. Cable is adjusted properly ( as per your owners manual) if you don’t have one, you should easily be able to get one by searching for owners manual, and your model # off the sticker on the back of the lower part of the back of your machine. You’ll also need your serial # ( same sticker). Take a pic of it with your phone, and if you need to get/order parts, you’ll have it with you. It may be a rod instead of a cable (mine is a rod, not sure about your model). If it’s a rod, make sure the pins that hold it in place that have cotter pins in it locking it on are not grooved from wear, or bent. 2. ( make sure plug wire is off) remove the belt cover and check the tensioner wheels. They add tension on the belt when you squeeze that hand lever and should turn freely when the lever is not squeezed. Look for excessive play ( wobble) that may indicate a tensioner wheel, or bearing is bad. The shafts those wheels ride on can cause problems as well, so inspect them in the same manner. Have someone squeeze the grip while you watch. Is there good tension on the belt, or does a tensioner wheel turn some when pressure is applied which indicates a problem with that wheel. 3. The bearing on the impeller shaft may be bad. Visually inspect. Grab from front of machine and see if there’s excessive play there. If that bearings bad, it could be binding when you engage it, and it’s tough to turn. When you add snow load, it could be locking up, the belt spins because of the excessive resistance, and thus your problem. Have someone squeeze the lever while you watch through the front. That shaft and the impeller should not have any motion when tension is applied. If it moves up… bad bearing. Let me know what you find.
@@blowingsnow4fun hmm a lot to check. I’m going to have look at it when I get back from work. That bearing is that what they call the carrier bearing in the assembly diagram?
Yes. I believe so. It will be located on the back side of the impeller it’s held on with 3 bolts usually. It’s going to be tough to see ( almost impossible) the impeller will block you view from the front, and the wheel the belt rides on will block your view from the back. Start off looking at those belt tensioner wheels as that’s a much simpler fix. If that’s not it, you going to have to go by feel with the bearing. I believe acceding that bushing for repair would entail removing the augers, then the impeller. Let me see if I can find a video.
This was back when they put those reliable Tecumseh Snow King engines on these things. The new engines they use just don’t have the same quality as these old Tecumsehs, I’ve seen a few of those new engines throw rods even though they’re still pretty new.
I haven’t seen any Toro or Ariens carbureted engines with those severe problems. I have heard of many issues with the Chinese knock off engines. I agree with your positive comment about the snow king 8 and 10 Hp. Lots of power, good starters, easy to work on, super durable. For when they were made, they were a great mix of value, quality, and features. I really like my two snow throwers with the old Techumse engines. Please subscribe if you haven’t, as I have two videos of these snow kings with their preseason start up and check over coming. Thanks for the comment!
Hey Andy. That’s an understatement. I’ve moved a ton of snow with this thing. Toro, Ariens, Simplicity, John Deer all made really heavy duty machines back then. It’s getting tougher to turn over with the rope starter though when it’s cold, but other than that, she throws snow like she did 30 years ago. Thanks for the + comment.
I can only compare it to my two 8hp Tecumseh machines which is tough to do. The two snow kings have a bigger gas tank, believe it or not, than the Ariens. The Ariens definitely uses more gas than my 8 Hp machines. I always start with a full tank, and use ethanol free fuel. I do as many as 3 driveways on a tank, and haven’t run out yet. It makes sense that it would use more gas, it’s the equivalent of a 12hp I’ve been told. From my perspective I don’t believe it’s excessive? OMHO!
Yeah, that thing is great! I bought a 724 in 2021. I happy with it so far.
Good solid machines made of thick gauge metal. Not like the current Toro’s with plastic dash, chute controls etc. made to last 30+years with s little routine maintainance. I had a 70’s 724 that was left in the garage of a house my brother bought. It had almost as much power as my current 8hp. Did some carb cleaning and a little lubing, and ran that thing for almost 30 years. The spring loaded scraper rusted off of it, so it left 2” of snow behind. I gave it to the guy who ran the dump up by my cabin, and last time I checked, he was still running it. I love the drum auger. I don’t get up to my cabin much in the winter anymore, and when I do, there are a fair amount of sticks mixed in with the snow. That drum auger rolls them out of the way so I’m not busting shear pins. How did you get into the jet engine go cart thing?
@blowingsnow4fun They are built heavier still than most others.
@MrBen527 …especially those Chinese blowers many of tge big box stores sell.
@@blowingsnow4fun right!
Old Toro's never die. Great Video. I have two 1980 Toro's that are still getting the job done. One is a 524 and the other one is an 824. My dad bought them new in 1980. One for the cabin and the other one for home use. I inherited both of them after my parents passed. My younger brother uses the 824, and I use the 524. The spring-loaded scrapper works great for my paved driveway. Over the summer, I purchased a new snow blower. At my age, I wanted something bigger and easier to maneuver. I ended up buying a new Toro Power max HD 1232. Can't wait to try it out this winter. I live in southeastern Michigan. Sometimes we get lots of snow, and then sometimes not so much. Really enjoyed your video. Have a safe and enjoyable winter. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Russell. Thanks for the comment. I started with a 1970’s 7hp Toro that we found in the corner of a garage in a house my brother bought in SE WI . It barely turned over, and my brother just wanted it out of his garage, so I told him I could use it at my cabin, he told me to take it if I wanted it. I took it up North rebuild the carb, changed the oil, and it started right up. I ran it for years until the spring loaded scraper bar rusted off on one end. I didn’t want to pay what they wanted for a new scraper (don’t remember that number anymore), so I drained the gas, and parked it in the corner of my shed. For a 7hp, it was a beast, just as powerful as any 8hp I’ve owned., and I started looking for a used replacement. A friend of mine runs the dump by my cabin, and he was looking for a blower for his farm. I passed it onto him. He took off the old scraper, filled it with fuel, and it started right up. He’s still running it. Luckily (for me), My brother bought the Toro 824 new to clear the snow on a hockey rink he created in his backyard for his kids. We had two warm winters, and this blower sat with untreated fuel in it. Next cold winter it wouldn’t start, so he was going to trade it in on a new machine. He just didn’t want anything that might not function, as he was working an insane amount of hours at the tine. I told him I’d buy if from him, he told me if I came and picked it up I could have it. So I picked it up, dumped the old gas. rebuilt the carb, and took it up to my cabin. It’s been my go to machine until it had electrical issues a few years back. Turned out mice had chewed the coil wire, and grounded it out. It sat for a year, and I brought an old Simplicity up to use in the meantime as I dissembled the machine and diagnosed the problem. Now I have two old machines running up there, so I always have a back up. Both Tecumseh Snow King 8 Hp. Love the barrel auger on the Toro. There’s always sticks in the snow up there as there are multiple snow falls while I’m gone I have to clear. It rolls those sticks out of the way, and just keeps throwing the snow, where my Simplicity occasionally breaks a shear pin, and I have to stop and put in s new one. Those old Toros were all thick metal, and made to last 30-40 years….probably outlive me! If you like the type of videos I post, please consider subscribing to the channel.
@@blowingsnow4fun Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed hearing about your adventures with your old machines. It is amazing how heavily built machines were back then compared to today's machines. I did put an auger kit in my 524 this summer. Very curious to see how much it helps with throwing distance. Hope you and family have a blessed and safe winter.
@@russellmaddock3492 … you and your family have a great winter Russel. Think snow!
I inherited a 724 from my father-in-law when he got sick of reverse not working and replaced it. I was six when it was manufactured. Ended up making it a full project. Pulled it completely apart. Had everything blasted and powdercoated with everything out front done in teflon and the chrome parts done in cerakote. Did the rubber flapper kit. Reconditioned the motor and reinstalled the starter. New tires. Stainless hardware everywhere for fun. My wife's dad kinda wanted it back after that, hehe. I love restoring old gear.
Hey mtnman … I had a 724, and ran it till about 2018. It was left in a garage my brother bought in the 80’s. He bought a new machine to go with his new house, and he gave me the 724. Gas looked like Kerosene & smelled like varnish. Fixed up the carb and fuel system, changed the oil, a little ether and off it went. The spring loaded scraper bar rusted off on one side, so I just removed the whole bar. I then fell into the 824, so I mothballed the 724 for about 5 years. Then I gave the 724 to my friend who has a farm. He was looking for something that would clear the deep snow, but leave s few inches as he has a lot of uneven areas. He’s still running it as far as I know. Thanks for the positive comment, as it’s always nice to talk with someone with a drum auger machine. Sounds like you really did your 724 up right. Do you have any photos or videos up on your TH-cam channel?
she's still kicken butt taken names impressive
Thanks for the positive comment Michael. If you like what you see on the channel, and haven’t already, please consider subscribing. I have 2 more snow blowing videos waiting for edits.
I have an 8/24 (not sure of the year) that is a little bit weak in 3rd gear and reverse. I adjusted the rod length on the rod that engages the wheel and now reverse does not work when the auger is engaged. Reverse works a little bit when you disengage the auger. Any tips ?
Hey Chris….. I need more info, and this may serve as tips as far as what to look for. It sounds like to me you might need to adjust the rod that connects to the gear shifter. But first you should (make sure you have have less than 1/2 a tank of gas, or take the cap off the fuel tank put a nitrile glove over the opening and screw the gas cap back on to avoid spilling or dripping fuel & make sure dip stick is in and closed) put the machine up into the service position(put a piece of cardboard on the garage floor, and tip the machine forward onto the bucket so handgrips point up, if it’s heavy get help). Then take the cover off the bottom between the wheels to see what’s going on in there. You may have a worn friction disc that’s causing your problems. There will be a light presence of rubber, grease etc on that cover which is ok, but look at the wheel in there that has a rubber coating on the outside. Is it worn down or cracked? A ton of rubber particles in there means it’s probably in need of replacing. Get back to me with that info when you can.
I really like those barrel augers.
Greetings from Wisconsin. Toro had some really neat features back in the 70’s and 80’s that were really outside of the box. The drum auger was one. It had several distinct advantages:
#1. It compressed the snow well into the impeller, which gave it really good throwing distance. It also helped to meter snow going into the impeller, which made them plug less than other brands in wet snow.
#2. The drum auger rolls obstacles out of the way( I hit branches under the snow every time I use it up North) rather than binding in the first stage. These drum auger blowers NEVER had any type of shear pin that I’m aware of. They didn’t need them as their design kept anything that would jam them out in front of the bucket.
My brother bought a house in 1980, and an old Toro 724 ( my first drum auger machine) was left in the garage. It was rusted/abused, and hadn’t been run in years. I asked him if I could have it for my cabin as he was going to hire a snow plower to clear his driveway. I dumped the old gas, did a carb clean on it (you would not have believed the crap in that bowl), and she fired right up. I ran that blower until 1993 until I came into the 824 that you saw in the video. I passed the 724 onto a friend who runs the dump up North, and he’s still running it as of two weeks ago when I saw him last. The drum auger Toros also had another hidden feature that was cool. They have a spring loaded scraper bar that will literally cleans right down to the pavement on concrete. I have my skids set up higher, so I don’t suck up the gravel in my driveway, but with a hard driveway, not only did they clean down to the hard surface, but they wore like iron. I neverI had to replace one in all the years I’ve run drum auger machines. Well probably more than you wanted to know, but you have a keen eye for innovation!
@@blowingsnow4fun That is incredible!
Glad you found it interesting.
Super cool! She's in great shape! I have a few toros in my shed, an '89 824 being one of them. Very dependable. The only thing that ever failed me was the tension spring for the traction assembly (It clips to the chassis under the belt cover).
She’s starting to be harder to turn over using the pull start in cold weather. I changed to a new brand of synthetic 5W30 this year. I’m going to switch back to Mobil 5W30, and see if that does the trick.
That is really awesome, Bruce.
Makes me wonder why the drum auger went the way of the Dodo bird?
If I remember correctly it created an engineering problem for them. One of the selling points that other manufacturers were using was tons of snow thrown. Toro’s drum auger by its nature limited the snow it allowed in the bucket, so it reduced the snow thrown. Second, throwing distance. The drum limited this as well because it limited the snow that got to the impeller, thus reducing throwing distance. In order to to compete, the drum had to go even though it had advantages. Some guessed it was an economic decision. The drum auger was more expensive to manufacture, and it required more materials than other designs, so they went to a different design. IDK what the real answer is, you’ll have to draw your own conclusions. As for me, I really like the way it moves snow, and I think it was a clever design.
@@blowingsnow4fun Thanks for the answer, Bruce. I happen to agree with it.
Great video!!
Here’s another link to an old 826 ( same Techumse engine as mine, but bucket is 2” wider) Massive snowstorm, and this old beast is really flinging the deep stuff. First part of the video is a rebuild, the second is the snow blowing. Enjoy!
th-cam.com/video/-zT69i4yBP4/w-d-xo.html
My bad…it has an 8 Hp Briggs
Very cool!
Hi Ryan. Glad you enjoyed the stuff on the Toro 824. She’s a stout old gal, who has never backed away from any snow.
@@blowingsnow4fun It looks like it!
I’m having an issue with mine not tossing the snow like it used to. I’ve changed the belt but not much improvement. Any ideas where to look next?
Hey KC Shuffle. Let me get some clarification. What year, make, model, horsepower is your machine? When did you start noticing reduced throwing distance. Does it make a difference if the snow is deep, wet, etc.? Let’s start simple. Make sure you take off the spark plug wire any time your working with the auger/impeller/ belts for safety. Have you checked that your shear pins on one side are not broken? I had one break several times, and my throwing distance, general performance suffered..Start off with with the machine off plug pulled, and by hand see if you can turn either side of the auger. Each side has its own pin on most machines. Sometimes if pin is broken, and the shaft it rides on is so rusted, It continues to turn, but slips under snow load. If you can recruit a helper, have them watch the front of your machine when blowing snow and see if they notice one side turning faster than the other side…. Better yet, set up your phone on an object 24-36” off the ground and have it record video from the front as you approach it throwing snow, then look for yourself if all appears normal. Second simple thing to check is belt tension ( I’m assuming u probably checked this when you replaced belt) there is a set bolt (on some machines two) that hold the impeller to the impeller shaft. Make sure they are tight. Do you notice RPMreduction when this happens, or hear any noises like squealing, or knocking/rattle when this happens?
@@blowingsnow4fun hi thanks for your reply. It’s very similar to your possibly an 88. It has a beige stater plug and all its engagment controls are levers vs handlebar triggers. Was getting stopped in a wet snow we had and had smell from the belt. I thought it was just trying to move the wrong kind of snow. Then
Had another more traditional snow about 6-8 inches with two foot drifts and it did the same thing. Changed the belt (the original had a few good wear marks out of it) it worked for a while but with noticeable reduction in throw distance and then started clogging and the belt kept working.
@@kansascityshuffle8526
Hey KC. Always glad to try to help. Your clue about smelling burning belt under load, and noticing wear “spots” on the belt is important. If it were my machine, I would look at these items:
1. Cable is adjusted properly ( as per your owners manual) if you don’t have one, you should easily be able to get one by searching for owners manual, and your model # off the sticker on the back of the lower part of the back of your machine. You’ll also need your serial # ( same sticker). Take a pic of it with your phone, and if you need to get/order parts, you’ll have it with you. It may be a rod instead of a cable (mine is a rod, not sure about your model). If it’s a rod, make sure the pins that hold it in place that have cotter pins in it locking it on are not grooved from wear, or bent.
2. ( make sure plug wire is off) remove the belt cover and check the tensioner wheels. They add tension on the belt when you squeeze that hand lever and should turn freely when the lever is not squeezed. Look for excessive play ( wobble) that may indicate a tensioner wheel, or bearing is bad. The shafts those wheels ride on can cause problems as well, so inspect them in the same manner. Have someone squeeze the grip while you watch. Is there good tension on the belt, or does a tensioner wheel turn some when pressure is applied which indicates a problem with that wheel.
3. The bearing on the impeller shaft may be bad. Visually inspect. Grab from front of machine and see if there’s excessive play there. If that bearings bad, it could be binding when you engage it, and it’s tough to turn. When you add snow load, it could be locking up, the belt spins because of the excessive resistance, and thus your problem. Have someone squeeze the lever while you watch through the front. That shaft and the impeller should not have any motion when tension is applied. If it moves up… bad bearing.
Let me know what you find.
@@blowingsnow4fun hmm a lot to check. I’m going to have look at it when I get back from work. That bearing is that what they call the carrier bearing in the assembly diagram?
Yes. I believe so. It will be located on the back side of the impeller it’s held on with 3 bolts usually. It’s going to be tough to see ( almost impossible) the impeller will block you view from the front, and the wheel the belt rides on will block your view from the back. Start off looking at those belt tensioner wheels as that’s a much simpler fix. If that’s not it, you going to have to go by feel with the bearing. I believe acceding that bushing for repair would entail removing the augers, then the impeller. Let me see if I can find a video.
This was back when they put those reliable Tecumseh Snow King engines on these things. The new engines they use just don’t have the same quality as these old Tecumsehs, I’ve seen a few of those new engines throw rods even though they’re still pretty new.
I haven’t seen any Toro or Ariens carbureted engines with those severe problems. I have heard of many issues with the Chinese knock off engines. I agree with your positive comment about the snow king 8 and 10 Hp. Lots of power, good starters, easy to work on, super durable. For when they were made, they were a great mix of value, quality, and features. I really like my two snow throwers with the old Techumse engines. Please subscribe if you haven’t, as I have two videos of these snow kings with their preseason start up and check over coming. Thanks for the comment!
It may be old, but boy it throws snow!
Hey Andy. That’s an understatement. I’ve moved a ton of snow with this thing. Toro, Ariens, Simplicity, John Deer all made really heavy duty machines back then. It’s getting tougher to turn over with the rope starter though when it’s cold, but other than that, she throws snow like she did 30 years ago. Thanks for the + comment.
she still do ok on fuel I know some older machines can be gas guzzelers
I can only compare it to my two 8hp Tecumseh machines which is tough to do. The two snow kings have a bigger gas tank, believe it or not, than the Ariens. The Ariens definitely uses more gas than my 8 Hp machines. I always start with a full tank, and use ethanol free fuel. I do as many as 3 driveways on a tank, and haven’t run out yet. It makes sense that it would use more gas, it’s the equivalent of a 12hp I’ve been told. From my perspective I don’t believe it’s excessive? OMHO!
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Hi Daniel … glad to hear your ready for the snow! Here’s your attaboy.