Totally agree. Our entitlement minded society has pampered guys, and worst, guys have allowed it to happen. The lack of real manhood in most sectors is the biggest crisis.
@@barriem5318 Not really. I'm not into watching 2 grown men in diapers rolling around on the floor. I just love football the way it used to be played. The way I used to play it. Organized close combat in any weather.
@@lawrencebenjamin502 I'm 60 and mature isn't an adjective my friends would use for me. Unless it's a serious conversation about tech, business, sociology or politics.
Here’s a thought: All of us kids playing playground and backyard ball during the 70’s and 80’s saw this as within the rules. Kids got body slammed, clotheslined, tripped and speared regularly. They don’t even allow tackle football at recess any more.
As a 10 year old in 76 I used to play against 14 and 15 year olds at the park,I remember picking off a pass and running it back about 40 yards almost to the end zone when out of nowhere I got clothes lined in the back of the head and went flying end over end😂 losing the ball from getting hit so hard,I still got right back up and kept playing,that's how it was back then.
All I can say is THANK YOU for creating this segment. Its phenomenal to see the way real football was played in this era. Also, most of these uniforms are classics! You can see why some teams went back to them in the modern era!
It was war out there on Sundays. A lot of clothesline tackles or necktie tackles. I still wonder how Bobby Douglass and Archie Manning took all those hits. Amazing.
They played for keeps! Archie got the stuffing beat out of him, NO had a leaky O-line. Archie was a tuff guy!. Larry Wilson & Jack Tatum used to render guys unconscious on a regular basis. Cliff Harris was a notorious head hunter as was Tatum. A dozen years later two team mates who shared an ignominious title of cheap shots were Fencik and Plank....appropriately they played with Dick Dent. I personally watched Alzado explore the grey areas of dirty play....the games with the Raiders got down right nasty. Thanks brother you're appreciated. -(Bronco) bradd -
Being a Vikings fan as a kid, I got to see plenty of Plank and Fencik. They were somethin' else.....right in the mold of Cliff Harris and Donnie Shell...huge hitters.
@@markgardner9460 Sadly all of the illicit junk Alzado used to turn into a manbeast ultimately destroyed him. Side bar: Alzado fought Mohammed Ali in an ill advised business venture. It was of course a joke with Ali dancing, mugging it up and rabbit punching....Alzado, maybe out of frustration tagged Ali with a haymaker, Ali looked at him like "you weren't supposed to do that" and unleashed a firm rebuke in the form of a fleury of solid combinations. Fat and out of shape it was still MOHAMMED FREKIN ALI Lyle.....very funny. Ali my hero!
I marvel at the fact that there are very few flags or fights after these hits. It was all accepted for the time. Its hard to point any one hit but the necktie at 11:16 is well delivered.
I think that you bring up a great point - players mostly accepted the rough stuff as part of the game. There may have been some jawing after a cheap shot, but the offender would probably be paid back in full at some point.....either in that game or the next one in which the two teams met. I've read stories where players waited 5 years in order to deliver the payback.
@@lancedibble4724 not really. The players from the 1940s, now those were men. They played with leather helmets and no facemasks. Pffft. These guys are wimps with their hard helmets and facemasks. See how ridiculous that sounds?
Awesome video!!!! Grew up watching this type of football!!! Players back then definitely EARNED their paychecks. Also, nice to see ACTUAL uniforms and not this 2020s "uniforms".
Wow, watching a young John Madden jump up and down! Never thought I'd see that one. Also seeing a very young Ted Hendricks out there returning an INT. As slways thank you for youre great work on these vintage NFL games, some of which I remember watching as a kid. Please keep'em coming, great memories of a time when they used to play football.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Ted Hendricks didn't gain much, if any, weight during his 15 year career. 6'7" 220 pound linebacker. Amazing! Thanks, Kevin. I'll keep crankin' 'em out!
Thank you for the last bit on this video! I love watching the old NFL games. Watching the hard hits and cheap shots in one video is brutal. I am glad a lot of that stuff is outlawed. Some of those late hits a BS. Marv Hubbard wasn't having any of it and good for him!
Like the shot that Diron Talbert laid on Staubach, few hits are worse than a 250+ pound man with pads jumping on your back when laying flat on the ground.
@@markgardner9460 Buck Buchanon slamming Blanda, the horse collar tackles (where many also included a bit of face masking), all the obstacles just outside of the sidelines and end zones, the unhealthy field conditions/surfaces, intentionally spearing late hits, tackles deep in the end zone or well outside the out of bounds. And just after those kinds of hits, where the receiver of the hits is on the ground usually in pain, the perpetrator and his allies usually admire their work. This video is a big reminder of just how rough the game was during this time. Having a career over five years had to be a major accomplishment!
I'm so glad that you mentioned the career span in your last statement. It irks me when someone says "Oh, Larry Brown only played X number of years or Chuck Foreman only played X years". Well, yeah, but look at the playing conditions! To last five years back then WAS a major accomplishment like you stated. Plus the medical and surgical techniques pale in comparison to today's, which allow players to play longer. Thank you.
@@markgardner9460 Amen. In olden days, careers weren't too long. I have a set of 1958 Topps football cards and I remember, on the back, the player's stats were listed and how many years he had been in the league. I remember being amazed that Chuck Bednarik's card said he'd been in the league 10 years. IIRC, he was the longest tenured of all the players and I think he was still with the Eagles for their championship year in 1960. He was one tough player.
One guy who really impressed me with his toughness was Joe Kapp..Larry Brown with the Skins..Raiders Fullbacks Hubbard, Van Eighan, Archie Manning was tough..Keep em Coming..Happy New Year!
Joe Kapp was a middle linebacker posing as a quarterback! He couldn’t pass really well, but when he ran, the defense usually took a beating. I saw him knock out a linebacker! I think instead of quarterback he could’ve been on the defense very easily.
Only time I as a Colts fan liked watching the Chiefs was the Era of Culp,Buchannon,Lanier,and Lynch,and Bobby Bell. That was a Great Defensive Unit. Especially inside the 5 yard line. Keep up the Great work you do in these posts.
One of the players (SF 49ers, no 37) Jimmy Johnson played with a broken arm!! That’s insane!!! That’s like a skier going down a jump with a broken leg!!!🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
I knew something was amiss when you passed on the chance to mention Dick Shiener. Reminds me of former Red Sox hurler, Dick Pole. 😅 Another fine video.
When I first started watching the NFL back around 1977, there were three quarterbacks listed on the active roster. Now there's two, with one typically on the practice squad. I'm guessing with all the rules protecting the quarterback now, maybe they don't feel like three are necessary. On another note, looking at so many players getting their helmets knocked off, this is something that almost NEVER happens these days.
Regarding your first topic, teams usually keep their starters in the game for it's entirety whether it's a blowout either way or not. Back in the day, Head Coaches substituted QB's in blowouts. Regarding topic #2, the frequency of hard hits was far greater then than now.
1971 meant one thing on the field. You better have your pads and protection in the right places and the chin-strap fastened. One way or another you were going to get physically damaged. Either by an opponent, your teammates, or a brick wall. 1971 was also about a whole lot of defense and one special player Living in Minnesota as a kid in those days, I remember a McDonalds(perhaps in Minneapolis or Bloomington) with a lot of Vikings pictures. One in particular was very telling. It was Bob Griese being mauled by #88 Alan Page. To this day I am yet to see any player more exciting to watch than the HOF DT. My 1st favorite player. 1971 was the year of Alan Page. Strong and quick at 245lbs. Page was unblockable. One late game against Detroit at the Met. It was called the Page game. After being called offsides, Alan took over the game. Showing just how much havoc #88 could cause. The 1st Defensive player to make MVP.
That's right - if you were a ballcarrier, you'd better not only have your head on a swivel, but you'd better not let up heading out of bounds or into the end zone. Heck, guys were still getting tackled 9 yards deep into the end zone. Page was so quick off the ball; it didn't matter if he was double-teamed cuz he'd split them. Bob Lilly was like that, too.
@@stevenzimmerman4057 We went to a Church called St. Bonaventure(with Br. John wailing on the Organ). On our way we would pass by the Old Met. I'm so glad we left before that became the Mall Of America. I have a book called Gamebreakers of the NFL . With Page on the cover tackling Ken Willard(SF) at the Met. The Page story opens with the Lions game. On one drive, Alan was called for two 15 yard penalties on back-back plays. On that same series, Page(furious) sacks Greg Landry 3 times, draws a holding call, and stops a draw play. He would block a punt later that game. That's how an MVPage plays this game.
As a really old Bear fan I miss the smash mouth football on real grass and in the mud and snow. Seemed there were far less injuries and the games finished in 2 hours. The rules then allowed much of what is now penalized.
I remember games ending way before the second game of the televised double header was to start. The networks would go to the studio and they'd gab about stuff, but they'd run out of material before the next game started. The announcers would be looking around for what to do next.
Only half the passing that they have now (because of massive rules changes going way back) really made those games move along. It also led to less time to score and by late '70s the front office had decided they were losing "the casual viewers" with 16-6 conference title games. The first swath of rules changes came in in '79 and Bill Walsh was the first to figure out to exploit the changes. It led to the "West Coast dink and dunk offense" that bested Landry's 'pokes in classic '81 playoff, where SF replaced Dallas as the predicted "Team of the '80's." Landry never recovered and wouldn't adjust. Then came arbitrary tackle box nonsense, followed years later by the recent ticky-tack roughing, targeting, defenseless receiver, horse collar (now just the shirt gets the often game-changing penalty)
James I am also an Old Bear Fan. Sayers and Butkus were My Favorite Bears' Players. Watched alot of Losing back in those days but the Football back then was exciting. None of this Namby Pamby, Protect the QB, Pussification of the NFL You see today. Sayers and Butkus could've Played in ANY Era. Glad they Played back then, despite the Injuries both suffered. The Greatest MLBer and RB of All Time, IMMHO.
@@Kevin-zk9tt and it still is. Tougher than rugby that’s for sure that’s why you need a helmet and pads cause people hit harder. Rules may have gotten soft but there are still parents out there who won’t let their kids play 🤷
How do you have access to such great old footage? Trade secrets, I understand, but wonderful all the same. I am a child of this era as well. @@markgardner9460
I met the "Secretary of Defense" Decon Jones at a gas station once. When we shook hands, his hand swallowed half my forearm. He had huge hands! I met Ken Norton Sr. before that and it was the same. I can't imagine getting hit with those fists.
That was awesome when Tarkenton threw the football at the back of the head of that guy from the Redskins. He used both hands and bounced it off the back of his helmet. Funny as hell. The ref just threw the flag straight down into the ground. Didn't even bother to throw it up in the air.
Great point - I hadn't thought of that! Offensive Linemen, especially Guards, definitely needed to be lean and athletic due to the high number of sweep running plays that used to be called. Thanks!
Don't get Me started on all that Effeminate Dancing after TDs, INTs. and FRs. that's rampant in Today's game. Utterly Sickening. And all that Pomp and Circumcision for the Super Bowl, too.
You can see clearly why rule changes were necessary….many players from this era unfortunately suffered brain damage or life long injuries including being paralysed. Though we old timers enjoyed this rough and tumble style, don’t forget, it came at a huge cost to the players.
0:10 Butkus taking out Charlie Sanders. The story behind it is a couple of plays earlier Sanders crushed Doug Buffone who told Butkus. According to Buffone upon hearing this Butkus said he would take care of Sanders. I think these guys played so they could simplify hit each other. God knows it wasn’t for the money.
Thanks for the inside scoop on that play - I hadn't heard that before. How 'bout the amount of blood on Buffone's pants during that footage of #85 drilling that guy on the sidelines? That used to be commonplace.
@@markgardner9460 totally agree. Also, did it rain or snow more on Sundays during the 60’s and 70’s. Seems like there were an awful lot of bad weather games.
Another great compilation, dang them shots were nasty and mean. Its a wonder they could suit up and play week after week. Them pain pills must have been x-tra strength back then!!!!!
I think aboyt my video of the 1970's wide receivers and how the best one from each year started every game. With all of the mugging that went on back then, that's amazing. Must've had some great pain pills like you said, Hammer!
Finished watching and couldn't help saying Fantastic again. Your Video is Showing The Game in it real Glory Year's. So Thank you, and also do a segment on the Alan Alda Film 📽️📽️ The Paper Lion. By George Plimpton. I'M sure even the winey Fan's of today would be amazed by it's Truthful & graphic Truth.
I laugh when people watching present day football say “What is he trying to do? Kill him?” Nahhh. Watch 70’s and early 80’s football. Hell yeah they tried to kill each other! And games were great to watch!
@@markgardner9460 I love watching full classic games here on TH-cam because of exactly that. The players played the game like it would be their life legacy. And the hits were amazing.
Yep, Bills' linebacker Mike Stratton on Keith Lincoln in the 1964 AFL Championship game, and Ickey Woods was the back whom Ronnie Lott lit up in Super Bowl 23.
I remember watching these games on Sundays and/or the NFL Films show the next week. These games were exciting; however, in hindsight and with the knowledge of what happened to so many of these men after they were out of the game, it's kinda hard to watch. I don't watch any pro sports save for the occasional Hockey game or EPL/EU soccer match. Too many commercials, teevee timeouts, and reviews on the play. Anyway, thanks for posting this.
There are far too many commercials; the flow of the game gets destroyed with it, along with those long instant replay reviews. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@markgardner9460 Right? I cut my cable about 10 years ago and pay for YT premium to avoid commercials. Now, the only time I hear that noise is at the pub playing pool if there's a game on. My mind is so much clearer. And, yeah, the flow of football is absolutely terrible. Thanks again for putting this together. It brings back some good memories.
I grew up with this but I'm so shocked nobody got crippled or killed! And as far as I know, I don't remember guys missing weeks at a time due to injuries like they do now. I swear the garbage food we've been eating and the pesticides etc. has made all of us more prone to injuries and illness. Even though everybody is taller and beefier now it doesn't mean we're healthier. My neighbor's 6'2" kid threw his back out shoveling for Christ sakes...
I also think guys back then wore bigger shoulder pads and more padding around their thighs and hips to get more protection. Now, everyone wants to he fast, not protected.
I agree with both viewers' comments - being bigger does not necessitate being better and I shake my head in disbelief at how much playing time is now missed. If they were really concerned about injuries, they'd make their players wear far more than biking shorts.
For anyone who sees this and says its Barbaric. The Goal is a Touchdown.....meaning you carry the ball into the other teams end zone and put the ball on the Ground. None of this stuff waving it overan imaginary line or flying over a Pylon. NFL is Ridiculous
No joke! Vicious hits back then. Butkus was still formidable in '71, coming back from the 1970 knee injury. Falcons' QB, #11, was Dick Shiner, getting rapped by Giants' MLB, Ron Hornsby, #67, (he supplanted Jim Files ,#58, at times). Shiner played some good games that year, though his stats may not indicate it. It was rare that Tarkenton would lose his cool. He got into a big bruhaha in Buffalo (I think?) after a wicked sideline tackle at the end zone. Eagles were lacking in offense, but that defense, during the white helmet era, was wicked. They played a borderline style, not unlike the Raiders. I used to like watching them. I knew a fight would start sooner or later because of the savage way they played.
Thank you for bringing up Shiner's name, as I was in error referencing #11. Tark got into a fight with the Patriots Ron Bolton in the corner of an end zone one time. He also drilled Jack Youngblood with a football from short range, but most of the time he was as cool as a cucumber.
I can't think of one modern uniform that I prefer over one from the '70's, but that's just me - I'm sure that there are those that prefer the new look.
The amount of pain and suffering that the players experienced playing on that crap is hard to fathom. What's worse is the lingering effects. They were modern day gladiators.
@@markgardner9460 Many also paid the price with CTE. I remember many years back, seeing a panel with older ex-players and John Mackey was one of the guests. But, Mackey's wife was also there as his mind had declined to where he couldn't understand some of the things that were said and she would help him out. It was sad to see such a great athlete as just a shell of his former self.
@@markgardner9460 And, consequentially, the number of players from that era suffering from CTE is highly disturbing. CTE, Lou Gehrig's Disease, suicides, and I read somewhere that the average lifespan of a veteran ex-NFL player is 53 years. I wonder how many from that era actually lived long enough to collect the NFL pension?
This was the year, well before I was born, that my high school football team was in a bus accident that killed a bunch of players and the coach. It was 30 years, to the day, before 9/11/2001.
@@3243_thanks! It was before I was born but I grew up in the aftermath of it. I knew several of the families who lost sons in that accident. Many of the safety features that are in busses to this day are a result of that specific bus accident.
Watching Archie Manning there it reminded me of a game in '80 or '81 when a Steeler lineman grabbed Bengals QB Ken Anderson by the facemask and twisted his helmet around 180° while pulling him to the ground. I thought the Pittsburgh guy was getting ejected. He wasn't. He wasn't even flagged.
Certainly not with the bikers shorts, lack of padding and itsy bitsy shoulder pads that they wear now. They're not used to getting hit hard now - it's so infrequent. Thanks for watching & commenting!
We'll he joined the NFL in the late 90s and was a starter in the 2000s when they started making some safety rules but helmet to helmet was still legal and guys like John Lynch Ray lewis bill romanawski etc played so maybe he could last a year or two but probably not past his mid 30s
Yeah, not too many QB's prior to '80 played past their mid-30's and if they did, they normally did not play well. Normally, once they hit age 31 or 32, it was a rapid downhill trip.
LOVE the spearing, late hits, serious injuries, and especially CTE HITS. REAL footbalL!
For all those who say the old time guys couldn’t play in todays NFL, well, I say these new guys couldn’t play back then.
Totally agree. Our entitlement minded society has pampered guys, and worst, guys have allowed it to happen. The lack of real manhood in most sectors is the biggest crisis.
Facts. Nothing but facts, football was waaaay more bruthal back in the day.
All of these men could play in the modern NFL, given access to modern training and diet.
They were physical outliers in their time and still would be.
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Yup, kinda what I’m inferring. @@yeildo1492
When young guys ask me why I don't watch today's NFL, I show them films like this.
Perfect
@@barriem5318 Not really. I'm not into watching 2 grown men in diapers rolling around on the floor. I just love football the way it used to be played. The way I used to play it. Organized close combat in any weather.
Me to.
The moment the cowboys knelt I stopped watching the NFL forever
@Ginx-pe4si I don't blame you. I'm sorry to say, and it truly is very sad, but only idiots watch the NFL now.
I am so old I remember watching these hits on TV back in the day.
Same here.
Your not old... just mature !! LOL !!
@@lawrencebenjamin502 I'm 60 and mature isn't an adjective my friends would use for me.
Unless it's a serious conversation about tech, business, sociology or politics.
Here’s a thought: All of us kids playing playground and backyard ball during the 70’s and 80’s saw this as within the rules. Kids got body slammed, clotheslined, tripped and speared regularly. They don’t even allow tackle football at recess any more.
Some of my favorite childhood memories are of playing tackle football at recess.
As a 10 year old in 76 I used to play against 14 and 15 year olds at the park,I remember picking off a pass and running it back about 40 yards almost to the end zone when out of nowhere I got clothes lined in the back of the head and went flying end over end😂 losing the ball from getting hit so hard,I still got right back up and kept playing,that's how it was back then.
My friends and I played a bunch of guys from our high school football team. We played dirty and kicked their ass
With no pads hard tackle
Thats how we played in the backyatd back in the 70s for sure
Thanks was hoping to see Lonnie Warwick on this clip. He passed away 2 days ago. Was a tough one #59 RIP
He and QB Joe Kapp engaged in a fight after a loss in which each combatant insisted that their squad was responsible.
This is what real football looks like. I really enjoyed watching this, Thank you.
Thank you - I'm glad that you enjoyed it!!
These NFL games were all played over 50 years ago, WOW!! Amazing 😮
I like the footage taken from the cameras at field level - it really provides a glimpse into how NFL play was back then.
Time flies, don't it?
Great video 👍
Thanks, Barron!
All I can say is THANK YOU for creating this segment. Its phenomenal to see the way real football was played in this era. Also, most of these uniforms are classics! You can see why some teams went back to them in the modern era!
Thank you very much for watching and commenting. I love uniforms from the '70's - I think they're the best - clean with no clutter.
It was war out there on Sundays. A lot of clothesline tackles or necktie tackles. I still wonder how Bobby Douglass and Archie Manning took all those hits. Amazing.
Bobby DOuglass delivered some big hits himself, dude was a wrecking ball in the open field but he like Archie took some brutal shots.
As a RAM fan I actually felt sorry for Archie!@@hammer44head
They played for keeps! Archie got the stuffing beat out of him, NO had a leaky O-line. Archie was a tuff guy!. Larry Wilson & Jack Tatum used to render guys unconscious on a regular basis. Cliff Harris was a notorious head hunter as was Tatum. A dozen years later two team mates who shared an ignominious title of cheap shots were Fencik and Plank....appropriately they played with Dick Dent. I personally watched Alzado explore the grey areas of dirty play....the games with the Raiders got down right nasty. Thanks brother you're appreciated. -(Bronco) bradd -
Being a Vikings fan as a kid, I got to see plenty of Plank and Fencik. They were somethin' else.....right in the mold of Cliff Harris and Donnie Shell...huge hitters.
To say that Alzado explored the grey areas of dirty play doesn't even begin to describe him,in my opinion! I think he jumped in with both feet!
Roid Rage
@@markgardner9460 Sadly all of the illicit junk Alzado used to turn into a manbeast ultimately destroyed him. Side bar: Alzado fought Mohammed Ali in an ill advised business venture. It was of course a joke with Ali dancing, mugging it up and rabbit punching....Alzado, maybe out of frustration tagged Ali with a haymaker, Ali looked at him like "you weren't supposed to do that" and unleashed a firm rebuke in the form of a fleury of solid combinations. Fat and out of shape it was still MOHAMMED FREKIN ALI Lyle.....very funny. Ali my hero!
I've seen footage of that. Thanks for bringing that up! I'm pretty sure that they fought outdoors. Ali was definitely tagged by Lyle!
Just fantastic footage. All those hard hits and I only remember seeing one flag!
It's like the referees had a limit as to how many penalties they could call in a game.
I marvel at the fact that there are very few flags or fights after these hits. It was all accepted for the time. Its hard to point any one hit but the necktie at 11:16 is well delivered.
I think that you bring up a great point - players mostly accepted the rough stuff as part of the game. There may have been some jawing after a cheap shot, but the offender would probably be paid back in full at some point.....either in that game or the next one in which the two teams met. I've read stories where players waited 5 years in order to deliver the payback.
@@markgardner9460 No one was safe in that era. As old coaches use to say you had to keep" your head on a swivel".
I agree. The ball carrier was worried about being caught from behind and did not see the tackler coming from the side.
When the game was played by real men with real big balls!!!!😮👍🏈👍🏈👍🏈👍
REALLY DUMB LANCE!
Most definitely! Posers need not apply.
@@lancedibble4724 not really. The players from the 1940s, now those were men. They played with leather helmets and no facemasks. Pffft. These guys are wimps with their hard helmets and facemasks.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
Great stuff Mark! Thanks for keeping the real game on the tube!
Thank you, Mark! It's a labor of love
@@markgardner9460 it shows! You obviously enjoy making the videos, and I look forward to seeing them!
Awesome video!!!! Grew up watching this type of football!!! Players back then definitely EARNED their paychecks. Also, nice to see ACTUAL uniforms and not this 2020s "uniforms".
Thank you! Yeah, give me the old school, uncluttered, clean-look uniforms and not this mostly dizzying look of today.
Your narration and musical score makes this reminiscent of a Bruce Brown movie. Entertaining!
Thank you! He was a 2nd generation Director, I think
Wow, watching a young John Madden jump up and down! Never thought I'd see that one. Also seeing a very young Ted Hendricks out there returning an INT. As slways thank you for youre great work on these vintage NFL games, some of which I remember watching as a kid. Please keep'em coming, great memories of a time when they used to play football.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Ted Hendricks didn't gain much, if any, weight during his 15 year career. 6'7" 220 pound linebacker. Amazing! Thanks, Kevin. I'll keep crankin' 'em out!
Yea, good to see "the Stork" get neck-tie, God knows he gave out a ton of them.
Great video....real football....that's why I don't watch it anymore today....
Thank you! Yeah, I can't stomach it anymore either.
Thank you for the last bit on this video! I love watching the old NFL games. Watching the hard hits and cheap shots in one video is brutal. I am glad a lot of that stuff is outlawed. Some of those late hits a BS. Marv Hubbard wasn't having any of it and good for him!
Like the shot that Diron Talbert laid on Staubach, few hits are worse than a 250+ pound man with pads jumping on your back when laying flat on the ground.
@@markgardner9460 Buck Buchanon slamming Blanda, the horse collar tackles (where many also included a bit of face masking), all the obstacles just outside of the sidelines and end zones, the unhealthy field conditions/surfaces, intentionally spearing late hits, tackles deep in the end zone or well outside the out of bounds. And just after those kinds of hits, where the receiver of the hits is on the ground usually in pain, the perpetrator and his allies usually admire their work. This video is a big reminder of just how rough the game was during this time. Having a career over five years had to be a major accomplishment!
I'm so glad that you mentioned the career span in your last statement. It irks me when someone says "Oh, Larry Brown only played X number of years or Chuck Foreman only played X years". Well, yeah, but look at the playing conditions! To last five years back then WAS a major accomplishment like you stated. Plus the medical and surgical techniques pale in comparison to today's, which allow players to play longer. Thank you.
@@markgardner9460 Amen. In olden days, careers weren't too long. I have a set of 1958 Topps football cards and I remember, on the back, the player's stats were listed and how many years he had been in the league. I remember being amazed that Chuck Bednarik's card said he'd been in the league 10 years. IIRC, he was the longest tenured of all the players and I think he was still with the Eagles for their championship year in 1960. He was one tough player.
@@markgardner9460 Excellent point about the medical and surgical technology of that time. And don't forget those early artificial turf fields.
Now this is football I grew up watching😂
...and loved. The Real Deal.
@@markgardner9460 The late great Dick Butkus said, "If I played today they put me under jail".
One guy who really impressed me with his toughness was Joe Kapp..Larry Brown with the Skins..Raiders Fullbacks Hubbard, Van Eighan, Archie Manning was tough..Keep em Coming..Happy New Year!
Couldn't agree more - thank you!!
Joe Kapp was a middle linebacker posing as a quarterback! He couldn’t pass really well, but when he ran, the defense usually took a beating. I saw him knock out a linebacker! I think instead of quarterback he could’ve been on the defense very easily.
@bwbw1341 In the NFL Championship Game in 1969 against Cleveland, Kapp knocked LB Jim Houston out cold.
That's how football should always be played
Only time I as a Colts fan liked watching the Chiefs was the Era of Culp,Buchannon,Lanier,and Lynch,and Bobby Bell. That was a Great Defensive Unit. Especially inside the 5 yard line. Keep up the Great work you do in these posts.
Thank you very much - I will.
One of the players (SF 49ers, no 37) Jimmy Johnson played with a broken arm!! That’s insane!!! That’s like a skier going down a jump with a broken leg!!!🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
49ers Safety Mel Phillips #32 broke his arm 4X during his career.
nice job. superb music picks
Thank you - I appreciate it. I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
This is when football was real
I knew something was amiss when you passed on the chance to mention Dick Shiener. Reminds me of former Red Sox hurler, Dick Pole. 😅 Another fine video.
Yes, I was in error by not mentioning Mr. Shiner. Pole was also a Pitching Coach, I think.
Thanks for watching and commenting again, Evan!
When I first started watching the NFL back around 1977, there were three quarterbacks listed on the active roster. Now there's two, with one typically on the practice squad. I'm guessing with all the rules protecting the quarterback now, maybe they don't feel like three are necessary.
On another note, looking at so many players getting their helmets knocked off, this is something that almost NEVER happens these days.
Regarding your first topic, teams usually keep their starters in the game for it's entirety whether it's a blowout either way or not. Back in the day, Head Coaches substituted QB's in blowouts. Regarding topic #2, the frequency of hard hits was far greater then than now.
Love your channel
Thank you - I'm glad that you enjoy it!
1971 meant one thing on the field. You better have your pads and protection in the right places and the chin-strap fastened. One way or another you were going to get physically damaged. Either by an opponent, your teammates, or a brick wall. 1971 was also about a whole lot of defense and one special player
Living in Minnesota as a kid in those days, I remember a McDonalds(perhaps in Minneapolis or Bloomington) with a lot of Vikings pictures. One in particular was very telling. It was Bob Griese being mauled by #88 Alan Page. To this day I am yet to see any player more exciting to watch than the HOF DT. My 1st favorite player. 1971 was the year of Alan Page. Strong and quick at 245lbs. Page was unblockable. One late game against Detroit at the Met. It was called the Page game. After being called offsides, Alan took over the game. Showing just how much havoc #88 could cause. The 1st Defensive player to make MVP.
That's right - if you were a ballcarrier, you'd better not only have your head on a swivel, but you'd better not let up heading out of bounds or into the end zone. Heck, guys were still getting tackled 9 yards deep into the end zone.
Page was so quick off the ball; it didn't matter if he was double-teamed cuz he'd split them. Bob Lilly was like that, too.
As a biased Vikings fan,Page had a fantastic game and 1971; season still one of my favorite players ever 52 years later!
@@stevenzimmerman4057 We went to a Church called St. Bonaventure(with Br. John wailing on the Organ). On our way we would pass by the Old Met. I'm so glad we left before that became the Mall Of America.
I have a book called Gamebreakers of the NFL . With Page on the cover tackling Ken Willard(SF) at the Met. The Page story opens with the Lions game. On one drive, Alan was called for two 15 yard penalties on back-back plays. On that same series, Page(furious) sacks Greg Landry 3 times, draws a holding call, and stops a draw play. He would block a punt later that game. That's how an MVPage plays this game.
I have that same book, along with a lot of those other NFL Library books - great stuff.
Made the Purple Gang Purple people eaters.
Great compilation(s)!
Thanks, Mark. I'm really glad that you liked it.
All the quarterbacks back then took a real beating.
ALL of them is accurate
Love that hard hitting 70s!
It doesn't get any better!
I wish the NFL still had that, “Don’t come around here no more” mindset that it used to
Now it's more like "If you do come around here, can we agree on no contact?"
When men played the game
Reminds me of LT highlights. Geez! Raw violence. It's what made the NFL so popular.
That's exactly right.
I am loving your channel, great work
Thank you - I really appreciate that. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Mad dog Mike Curtis was the most under rated middle linebacker in history. He should be in the H of F
He was very active in the players union, so that could be a reason that he hasn't made it.
And that’s how you end a video! 70’s style!
I am 62 now. I loved football and racquet ball. You can play with respect.
As a really old Bear fan I miss the smash mouth football on real grass and in the mud and snow. Seemed there were far less injuries and the games finished in 2 hours. The rules then allowed much of what is now penalized.
I remember games ending way before the second game of the televised double header was to start. The networks would go to the studio and they'd gab about stuff, but they'd run out of material before the next game started. The announcers would be looking around for what to do next.
Only half the passing that they have now (because of massive rules changes going way back) really made those games move along. It also led to less time to score and by late '70s the front office had decided they were losing "the casual viewers" with 16-6 conference title games.
The first swath of rules changes came in in '79 and Bill Walsh was the first to figure out to exploit the changes. It led to the "West Coast dink and dunk offense" that bested Landry's 'pokes in classic '81 playoff, where SF replaced Dallas as the predicted "Team of the '80's." Landry never recovered and wouldn't adjust.
Then came arbitrary tackle box nonsense, followed years later by the recent ticky-tack roughing, targeting, defenseless receiver, horse collar (now just the shirt gets the often game-changing penalty)
Just not the same game ,. . ...!
James
I am also an Old Bear Fan. Sayers and Butkus were My Favorite Bears' Players. Watched alot of Losing back in those days but the Football back then was exciting. None of this Namby Pamby, Protect the QB, Pussification of the NFL You see today. Sayers and Butkus could've Played in ANY Era. Glad they Played back then, despite the Injuries both suffered. The Greatest MLBer and RB of All Time, IMMHO.
We used to play tackle football as kids on Saturdays -- limping away & bloody were badges to proudly display.
Thank you for yet another great video.
You're welcome - I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
Back then players were players. It was a tough sport back then ‼️‼️🇺🇸
@@Kevin-zk9tt and it still is. Tougher than rugby that’s for sure that’s why you need a helmet and pads cause people hit harder. Rules may have gotten soft but there are still parents out there who won’t let their kids play 🤷
When wasn't criying QB; no penalties for hard hits; no ridículous rules for essential football. Those years was asoweme.
Well done!
Thank you! I appreciate it.
How do you have access to such great old footage? Trade secrets, I understand, but wonderful all the same. I am a child of this era as well.
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To think the late great Conrad Dobler would not even be in the NFL for another year. And the Deacon Jones head slap was still legal.
It was still legal until '77, I think. Carl Eller was another player who utilized it to great effect.
I met the "Secretary of Defense" Decon Jones at a gas station once. When we shook hands, his hand swallowed half my forearm. He had huge hands! I met Ken Norton Sr. before that and it was the same. I can't imagine getting hit with those fists.
That was awesome when Tarkenton threw the football at the back of the head of that guy from the Redskins. He used both hands and bounced it off the back of his helmet. Funny as hell. The ref just threw the flag straight down into the ground. Didn't even bother to throw it up in the air.
Fran used to get into it with opposing players quite a bit. For a small guy, he didn't take any stuff.
When football was played the way it was made to be played.
Loved it! Seemed like all the linemen were lean and in shape - not a pot belly to be seen. Refreshing.
Great point - I hadn't thought of that! Offensive Linemen, especially Guards, definitely needed to be lean and athletic due to the high number of sweep running plays that used to be called. Thanks!
When it was football. Not dancing with the stars.
You got that right - I liked that.
Don't get Me started on all that Effeminate Dancing after TDs, INTs. and FRs. that's rampant in Today's game. Utterly Sickening. And all that Pomp and Circumcision for the Super Bowl, too.
Mike Curtis of the Colts was a beast as linebacker...Mad Dog was the perfect nickname....he should be in the HOF just for his hits.
Curtis went to The Dick Butkus School of Intimidation. The guy was fearless.
The NFL today cries in mercy, please be nice and don't hurt me 😢
No doubt. Any hard tackle is deemed unnecessary roughness. How else ya gonna get 'em to the ground?
You can see clearly why rule changes were necessary….many players from this era unfortunately suffered brain damage or life long injuries including being paralysed. Though we old timers enjoyed this rough and tumble style, don’t forget, it came at a huge cost to the players.
Yes, they paid a steep price. Thank you for watching and bringing this up - very appreciated.
Quarterbacks got what they deserved over paid dandys 😂
Marv Hubbard was a tank...John Brockington too.
I love great hits, but These are some brutal, frightening collisions and hits..RIP Darryl Stingley - he was a victim of the cheap shots of this era..
That's a really cool thumbnail that you have!
@@markgardner9460 thanks! That’s the Colorado Stat Rams alternative helmet, but it should definitely be their regular helmet.
I agree!
@@Scott-gc8lr it's definitely a nice "lid!"
The hit that Tatum put on Stingley was not a cheap shot. And I hate the Raiders.
0:10 Butkus taking out Charlie Sanders. The story behind it is a couple of plays earlier Sanders crushed Doug Buffone who told Butkus. According to Buffone upon hearing this Butkus said he would take care of Sanders. I think these guys played so they could simplify hit each other. God knows it wasn’t for the money.
Thanks for the inside scoop on that play - I hadn't heard that before. How 'bout the amount of blood on Buffone's pants during that footage of #85 drilling that guy on the sidelines? That used to be commonplace.
@@markgardner9460 totally agree. Also, did it rain or snow more on Sundays during the 60’s and 70’s. Seems like there were an awful lot of bad weather games.
I know - it seems that way.
It was either after this play or shortly thereafter when Chuck Hughes collapsed and later died.
@@johnm8096correct. Same game
The real men of the NFL
First line of Jim Brown's autobiography: "They were going for my eyes."
Another great compilation, dang them shots were nasty and mean. Its a wonder they could suit up and play week after week. Them pain pills must have been x-tra strength back then!!!!!
I think aboyt my video of the 1970's wide receivers and how the best one from each year started every game. With all of the mugging that went on back then, that's amazing. Must've had some great pain pills like you said, Hammer!
Probably also a few bottles of liquor consumed by some of the players back then, and perhaps (especially by this period) a little herbal remedy too.
The Rams uni's were so damn nice. Best looking uni's in the league. What they wear now looks like a mardi gras costume designed by RuPaul.
Finished watching and couldn't help saying Fantastic again. Your Video is Showing The Game in it real Glory Year's. So Thank you, and also do a segment on the Alan Alda Film 📽️📽️ The Paper Lion. By George Plimpton. I'M sure even the winey Fan's of today would be amazed by it's Truthful & graphic Truth.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!!
If they played like this today,nobody would be left to play with how big,strong,and fast the athletes are today wow.
That's a fact
Well, you’re disregarding the fact that EVERYONE is that way…so not to the extent you think.
Can anyone imagine Dick Butkus having “choose love” on the back of his helmet. Lol. NFL IN 2024 stands for “NATIONAL FEMININE LEAGUE.
He would have used a belt sander and engraved "Intensity!" Over it.
I laugh when people watching present day football say “What is he trying to do? Kill him?” Nahhh. Watch 70’s and early 80’s football. Hell yeah they tried to kill each other! And games were great to watch!
Back then it didn't matter to me which teams were playing because I knew that every game would have a lot of hard hitting.
@@markgardner9460 I love watching full classic games here on TH-cam because of exactly that. The players played the game like it would be their life legacy. And the hits were amazing.
Tom Brady wouldn't last a season if he played back then
I agree. So many viewers have made that same comment throughout my Hard Hits, Cheap Shot & Fights video series.
Agreed Brady would whine like a puppy..
He certainly wouldn’t have the stats he compiled in his tenure. He’d have been roughed up more. You can’t touch QBs today - literally.
@@markgardner9460hell, half of them didn't make it, it wasn't nothing for team to have 5or6 different starting qbs in a couple of seasons.
He wouldn't last a quarter
This why they say the NFL stands for "Not For Long".
That's right! Get as much money as you could and hope against a career-ending injury.
Rest Up John Madden 🙏🏾🕊🏈
That Buffalo hit in a AFL championship game on a charger back , and Ronnie Lott laying the wood on a back for the Bengals in a SB> standout !
Yep, Bills' linebacker Mike Stratton on Keith Lincoln in the 1964 AFL Championship game, and Ickey Woods was the back whom Ronnie Lott lit up in Super Bowl 23.
I miss the grass fields
The fake stuff causes so many injuries. They need to go back to all-grass fields.
I remember watching these games on Sundays and/or the NFL Films show the next week. These games were exciting; however, in hindsight and with the knowledge of what happened to so many of these men after they were out of the game, it's kinda hard to watch. I don't watch any pro sports save for the occasional Hockey game or EPL/EU soccer match.
Too many commercials, teevee timeouts, and reviews on the play.
Anyway, thanks for posting this.
There are far too many commercials; the flow of the game gets destroyed with it, along with those long instant replay reviews. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@markgardner9460 Right? I cut my cable about 10 years ago and pay for YT premium to avoid commercials.
Now, the only time I hear that noise is at the pub playing pool if there's a game on. My mind is so much clearer.
And, yeah, the flow of football is absolutely terrible.
Thanks again for putting this together. It brings back some good memories.
I cut out DirecTv (which was a complete joke) and don't miss it one bit. YT Premium is the way to go!
@markgardner9460 YT University.
Lots of people putting out quality content on building/fixing stuff, etc.
I grew up with this but I'm so shocked nobody got crippled or killed! And as far as I know, I don't remember guys missing weeks at a time due to injuries like they do now. I swear the garbage food we've been eating and the pesticides etc. has made all of us more prone to injuries and illness. Even though everybody is taller and beefier now it doesn't mean we're healthier. My neighbor's 6'2" kid threw his back out shoveling for Christ sakes...
I also think guys back then wore bigger shoulder pads and more padding around their thighs and hips to get more protection. Now, everyone wants to he fast, not protected.
I agree with both viewers' comments - being bigger does not necessitate being better and I shake my head in disbelief at how much playing time is now missed. If they were really concerned about injuries, they'd make their players wear far more than biking shorts.
I do love your channel though. Wish I could go back and see these games live.@@markgardner9460
That would be awesome!
In the summer of '71 my dad, brother and I dug our basement by hand: shovels, picks etc,... frfr
This should be Rated R for violence
Sometimes defenders would wrap their forearms up & Sometimes even putting in metal inside to give a little extra effect.
That's right - they'd used Plaster of Paris, too.
For anyone who sees this and says its Barbaric. The Goal is a Touchdown.....meaning you carry the ball into the other teams end zone and put the ball on the Ground.
None of this stuff waving it overan imaginary line or flying over a Pylon. NFL is Ridiculous
No joke! Vicious hits back then. Butkus was still formidable in '71, coming back from the 1970 knee injury. Falcons' QB, #11, was Dick Shiner, getting rapped by Giants' MLB, Ron Hornsby, #67, (he supplanted Jim Files ,#58, at times). Shiner played some good games that year, though his stats may not indicate it. It was rare that Tarkenton would lose his cool. He got into a big bruhaha in Buffalo (I think?) after a wicked sideline tackle at the end zone. Eagles were lacking in offense, but that defense, during the white helmet era, was wicked. They played a borderline style, not unlike the Raiders. I used to like watching them. I knew a fight would start sooner or later because of the savage way they played.
Thank you for bringing up Shiner's name, as I was in error referencing #11. Tark got into a fight with the Patriots Ron Bolton in the corner of an end zone one time. He also drilled Jack Youngblood with a football from short range, but most of the time he was as cool as a cucumber.
@@markgardner9460 Thanks- it was against the Patriots, not Buffalo, where Fran really lost his temper
I dig those green Eagles jerseys with the white helmet - just had to add that.
@@markgardner9460 The Eagles unis now,like a lot of teans (New England and the Rams come to mind and Atlanta)are nowhere near as good now!
I can't think of one modern uniform that I prefer over one from the '70's, but that's just me - I'm sure that there are those that prefer the new look.
Ah yes indeed...remembering the days of pretzeled necks, broken bones & the 40 man roster...
Bob Hayes used to play the wide man who rushed the kicker on PAT and FG attempts. Imagine that happening today?
Keep in mind that the artificial turf in those days was a piece of carpet stapled to a piece of plywood attached to a concrete floor.
The amount of pain and suffering that the players experienced playing on that crap is hard to fathom. What's worse is the lingering effects. They were modern day gladiators.
@@markgardner9460 Many also paid the price with CTE. I remember many years back, seeing a panel with older ex-players and John Mackey was one of the guests. But, Mackey's wife was also there as his mind had declined to where he couldn't understand some of the things that were said and she would help him out. It was sad to see such a great athlete as just a shell of his former self.
The only thing that compared to the violence was the awful playing surfaces..
@@markgardner9460 And, consequentially, the number of players from that era suffering from CTE is highly disturbing. CTE, Lou Gehrig's Disease, suicides, and I read somewhere that the average lifespan of a veteran ex-NFL player is 53 years. I wonder how many from that era actually lived long enough to collect the NFL pension?
Sheeit was brutal. In a professional manner.
I remember Walter Payton, never ran out of bounds. St.Paul,Minnesota.
That's right - he was looking for somebody to throw his shoulder into instead!
Payton, a RB of the 70s and 80s, Played 13 Seasons. Missed 1 Game.
This when football was football ‼️‼️‼️🇺🇸
Real men playing real football
This should be subtitled : Things no longer allowed in todays NFL .
Football was a man’s game they knew what was coming to them.
Back when real men played the game.
4:09…..... Butkus said, "If I played today they would put me under the jail"!
Not in it....UNDER it. They wouldn't allow guys like him to play in today's game.
Practically every play here would draw a flag in today's NFL
That's the truth. Can you imagine the amount of fines that would be levied? The NFL could host one heckuva party!
This was the year, well before I was born, that my high school football team was in a bus accident that killed a bunch of players and the coach. It was 30 years, to the day, before 9/11/2001.
I'm sorry that happened.
@@3243_thanks! It was before I was born but I grew up in the aftermath of it. I knew several of the families who lost sons in that accident. Many of the safety features that are in busses to this day are a result of that specific bus accident.
2:25--Fran Tarkenton may have been a preacher's son, but he played with an edge.
He didn't take any guff. I've seen him fire footballs at defensive players point blank - he had a fire in his belly, that's for sure.
@markgardner9460 the DE didn't have to drag Fran like a sackcof potatoes for almost 5yds, ijs.
@@markgardner9460when Fran retired he was the NFL's all time leading passer
Attempts, completions, yards, td's and highest completion percentage in a single game (17 of 18). He was #1 across the board.
Talk about hits Mike Curtis laying the wood on a fan in Baltimore
Yes. His nickname was "Mad Dog" for good reason.
Ditka leveled a Fan out in LA back in the 60s.
When they were still allowed to play 👍
Now they have to tackle a player just a certain way. Their hitting zone is now the waist to the shoulders.
Watching Archie Manning there it reminded me of a game in '80 or '81 when a Steeler lineman grabbed Bengals QB Ken Anderson by the facemask and twisted his helmet around 180° while pulling him to the ground. I thought the Pittsburgh guy was getting ejected. He wasn't. He wasn't even flagged.
It's crazy the stuff that they used to let guys get away with back then!
It was a man’s sport back then.
Crybabys didn't last long
Need to show when Joe Turkey Jones slammed Bradshaw down on his head.
I've got that footage from my Bradshaw video if you wanna check it out
@@markgardner9460 Bradshaw took a lot hits in his career. Iron man.
todays pampered players would be carted off by the numbers if they were to get tackled and hit like this , I miss the glory days of football
None of the QBs of the 21st century would have survived playing back then.
Certainly not with the bikers shorts, lack of padding and itsy bitsy shoulder pads that they wear now. They're not used to getting hit hard now - it's so infrequent. Thanks for watching & commenting!
This is so True
Great
Another great video of how it was. That was a nice memory. When did they stop facemasks and necktie tackles??
Thank you! I'm unsure of the answers to your questions, so I'll need to research that.
When too many of those hits ended playing careers....
I still think horse-collar should be allowed. And I hate that QB is "safe". If you cross LoS, you are just another player@@jayritchie851
Would have loved to see tom Brady play during this Era of the NFL
So many viewers have stated that he wouldn't have been able to handle the punishment. It would have been so interesting to see.
We'll he joined the NFL in the late 90s and was a starter in the 2000s when they started making some safety rules but helmet to helmet was still legal and guys like John Lynch Ray lewis bill romanawski etc played so maybe he could last a year or two but probably not past his mid 30s
Yeah, not too many QB's prior to '80 played past their mid-30's and if they did, they normally did not play well. Normally, once they hit age 31 or 32, it was a rapid downhill trip.
He was a lot tougher than you think. In his 40's, he played against guys half his age. The great ones can play in any era.
@@jayritchie851 bret farve is the toughest QB of the new age and he proved it when he ayed the saints in 2009