Totally agree. Our entitlement minded society has pampered guys, and worst, guys have allowed it to happen. The lack of real manhood in most sectors is the biggest crisis.
@@lawrencebenjamin502 I'm 60 and mature isn't an adjective my friends would use for me. Unless it's a serious conversation about tech, business, sociology or politics.
It was war out there on Sundays. A lot of clothesline tackles or necktie tackles. I still wonder how Bobby Douglass and Archie Manning took all those hits. Amazing.
They played for keeps! Archie got the stuffing beat out of him, NO had a leaky O-line. Archie was a tuff guy!. Larry Wilson & Jack Tatum used to render guys unconscious on a regular basis. Cliff Harris was a notorious head hunter as was Tatum. A dozen years later two team mates who shared an ignominious title of cheap shots were Fencik and Plank....appropriately they played with Dick Dent. I personally watched Alzado explore the grey areas of dirty play....the games with the Raiders got down right nasty. Thanks brother you're appreciated. -(Bronco) bradd -
Being a Vikings fan as a kid, I got to see plenty of Plank and Fencik. They were somethin' else.....right in the mold of Cliff Harris and Donnie Shell...huge hitters.
@@markgardner9460 Sadly all of the illicit junk Alzado used to turn into a manbeast ultimately destroyed him. Side bar: Alzado fought Mohammed Ali in an ill advised business venture. It was of course a joke with Ali dancing, mugging it up and rabbit punching....Alzado, maybe out of frustration tagged Ali with a haymaker, Ali looked at him like "you weren't supposed to do that" and unleashed a firm rebuke in the form of a fleury of solid combinations. Fat and out of shape it was still MOHAMMED FREKIN ALI Lyle.....very funny. Ali my hero!
As a really old Bear fan I miss the smash mouth football on real grass and in the mud and snow. Seemed there were far less injuries and the games finished in 2 hours. The rules then allowed much of what is now penalized.
I remember games ending way before the second game of the televised double header was to start. The networks would go to the studio and they'd gab about stuff, but they'd run out of material before the next game started. The announcers would be looking around for what to do next.
Only half the passing that they have now (because of massive rules changes going way back) really made those games move along. It also led to less time to score and by late '70s the front office had decided they were losing "the casual viewers" with 16-6 conference title games. The first swath of rules changes came in in '79 and Bill Walsh was the first to figure out to exploit the changes. It led to the "West Coast dink and dunk offense" that bested Landry's 'pokes in classic '81 playoff, where SF replaced Dallas as the predicted "Team of the '80's." Landry never recovered and wouldn't adjust. Then came arbitrary tackle box nonsense, followed years later by the recent ticky-tack roughing, targeting, defenseless receiver, horse collar (now just the shirt gets the often game-changing penalty)
James I am also an Old Bear Fan. Sayers and Butkus were My Favorite Bears' Players. Watched alot of Losing back in those days but the Football back then was exciting. None of this Namby Pamby, Protect the QB, Pussification of the NFL You see today. Sayers and Butkus could've Played in ANY Era. Glad they Played back then, despite the Injuries both suffered. The Greatest MLBer and RB of All Time, IMMHO.
Awesome video!!!! Grew up watching this type of football!!! Players back then definitely EARNED their paychecks. Also, nice to see ACTUAL uniforms and not this 2020s "uniforms".
I remember watching these games on Sundays and/or the NFL Films show the next week. These games were exciting; however, in hindsight and with the knowledge of what happened to so many of these men after they were out of the game, it's kinda hard to watch. I don't watch any pro sports save for the occasional Hockey game or EPL/EU soccer match. Too many commercials, teevee timeouts, and reviews on the play. Anyway, thanks for posting this.
There are far too many commercials; the flow of the game gets destroyed with it, along with those long instant replay reviews. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@markgardner9460 Right? I cut my cable about 10 years ago and pay for YT premium to avoid commercials. Now, the only time I hear that noise is at the pub playing pool if there's a game on. My mind is so much clearer. And, yeah, the flow of football is absolutely terrible. Thanks again for putting this together. It brings back some good memories.
I was born in 1966 and I grew up playing rough tackle football with kids in our farming community in the 70's and 80's. My High School won the Maryland State Championship twice in the 80's. My favorite hitters from back then were tough men like Jack Lambert, Mean Joe Greene, Conrad Dobler, Lyle Alzado, and of course Dick Butkus. These men were tough as nails and played the game when it was a real man's game. I hear all the time that today's players are bigger, faster, more athletic, etc. But those attributes do Not necessarily mean they are physically tough. These players had a physical & mental toughness that today's weak and woke players no nothing. about.
Thank you for your comments. I will add to them that when I watched pro football in the '70's, commentators were stating that players were bigger, faster, and stronger than the ones before them. That was continually stated in each subsequent decade. If that's the case, then why aren't guys running sub 4.0 40's? Why aren't guys bench pressing 700 pounds? The answer is that there are limits to what the human body can do and I wish that the media would stop this talk. I definitely agree that just because today's athletes are chiseled, it doesn't mean that they are physically tough.
One of the biggest hits of 1971, Mel Tom of the Eagles knocking out Roger Staubach of the Cowboys on a forearm smash to the back of the head after the ball was intercepted, has not surfaced. But a copy does -- or at the very least, did -- exist, because Tom denied it until the league office saw a clip of it and fined him $1,000.
Not only were players pummeling another, something tells me those old astroturf fields offered vey little protection. When you got thrown down it probably felt like you just ran into a piece of cement.
IIRC, the original Astroturf fields were concrete covered by 1 inch of a heavy foam rubber that was covered by the Astroturf. It almost hurts just to think about it.
We'll he joined the NFL in the late 90s and was a starter in the 2000s when they started making some safety rules but helmet to helmet was still legal and guys like John Lynch Ray lewis bill romanawski etc played so maybe he could last a year or two but probably not past his mid 30s
Yeah, not too many QB's prior to '80 played past their mid-30's and if they did, they normally did not play well. Normally, once they hit age 31 or 32, it was a rapid downhill trip.
Great job on the video. You see it time after time, players with an open facemask were clearely targeted ( facial ), ** Leo Hayden sighting # 44 !! Vikings #1 draft pick in 71.....in 7 games with the Vikings, he had ZERO touches ,nothing, nada !!11:42
I had to go back and look for #44. What a complete waste of a pick. I covered him in my 1971 NFL Draft video. I think this may be the only professional footage of him that I've seen.
"Everything" in this compilation...would " qualify" in the game today....as" unnecessary roughness".... and "15 yd" penalties...."nowadays"....a standard game....would never....get off the "ground".. ..due to these over the "top"and "brazen" violations...."However" I am a "fan"of the "Gladiator" style"!!
Can you imagine how long games would take to be played today if they were played like they were in '71? Constant penalties. Frequent player ejections. Weekly fines totaling the gross national products of small third world nations.
@@markgardner9460 I agree.nobody got suspended even when someone was hurt badly.im 58 so I was into football in the mid 70s till about the 90s.it started changing to much and today it's not even the same more athletic ability and nobody like bill romanoski who bragged about cheap shots. I saw green bay destroy Dallas this weekend,the game is much faster today to.
Ah, brings back memories, football was played by players who played the way it was designed. Now it’s played by millionaires who make business decisions, and make the game looked rigged.
I used to love to see the hard hits and general brutality of this game until I saw so many of these guys suffer with CTE and other ailments and the NFL's atrocious successful attempt to hide this truth for so long. It's difficult to see an animal suffer like that let alone another human being. I'm cool with not watching this garbage anymore and I know, nobody should care what I think. Just tossing in my opinion, I guess.
Querer comparar la NFL de los años 70 con la actual se me hace ocioso, los tiempos han cambiado ahora se trata de proteger la integridad de los jugadores, para aquellos que añoran como se jugaba el fútbol en aquellas épocas vean la película "Concusion"donde muestran las consecuencias de como se jugaba antes
A lot of those cobcussions can be attributed to thin helmets with insufficient padding, as well as thin patio carpet covering concrete onto which the players played.
@@barriem5318 Not really. I'm not into watching 2 grown men in diapers rolling around on the floor. I just love football the way it used to be played. The way I used to play it. Organized close combat in any weather.
Here’s a thought: All of us kids playing playground and backyard ball during the 70’s and 80’s saw this as within the rules. Kids got body slammed, clotheslined, tripped and speared regularly. They don’t even allow tackle football at recess any more.
As a 10 year old in 76 I used to play against 14 and 15 year olds at the park,I remember picking off a pass and running it back about 40 yards almost to the end zone when out of nowhere I got clothes lined in the back of the head and went flying end over end😂 losing the ball from getting hit so hard,I still got right back up and kept playing,that's how it was back then.
I met the "Secretary of Defense" Decon Jones at a gas station once. When we shook hands, his hand swallowed half my forearm. He had huge hands! I met Ken Norton Sr. before that and it was the same. I can't imagine getting hit with those fists.
1971 meant one thing on the field. You better have your pads and protection in the right places and the chin-strap fastened. One way or another you were going to get physically damaged. Either by an opponent, your teammates, or a brick wall. 1971 was also about a whole lot of defense and one special player Living in Minnesota as a kid in those days, I remember a McDonalds(perhaps in Minneapolis or Bloomington) with a lot of Vikings pictures. One in particular was very telling. It was Bob Griese being mauled by #88 Alan Page. To this day I am yet to see any player more exciting to watch than the HOF DT. My 1st favorite player. 1971 was the year of Alan Page. Strong and quick at 245lbs. Page was unblockable. One late game against Detroit at the Met. It was called the Page game. After being called offsides, Alan took over the game. Showing just how much havoc #88 could cause. The 1st Defensive player to make MVP.
That's right - if you were a ballcarrier, you'd better not only have your head on a swivel, but you'd better not let up heading out of bounds or into the end zone. Heck, guys were still getting tackled 9 yards deep into the end zone. Page was so quick off the ball; it didn't matter if he was double-teamed cuz he'd split them. Bob Lilly was like that, too.
@@stevenzimmerman4057 We went to a Church called St. Bonaventure(with Br. John wailing on the Organ). On our way we would pass by the Old Met. I'm so glad we left before that became the Mall Of America. I have a book called Gamebreakers of the NFL . With Page on the cover tackling Ken Willard(SF) at the Met. The Page story opens with the Lions game. On one drive, Alan was called for two 15 yard penalties on back-back plays. On that same series, Page(furious) sacks Greg Landry 3 times, draws a holding call, and stops a draw play. He would block a punt later that game. That's how an MVPage plays this game.
0:10 Butkus taking out Charlie Sanders. The story behind it is a couple of plays earlier Sanders crushed Doug Buffone who told Butkus. According to Buffone upon hearing this Butkus said he would take care of Sanders. I think these guys played so they could simplify hit each other. God knows it wasn’t for the money.
Thanks for the inside scoop on that play - I hadn't heard that before. How 'bout the amount of blood on Buffone's pants during that footage of #85 drilling that guy on the sidelines? That used to be commonplace.
@@markgardner9460 totally agree. Also, did it rain or snow more on Sundays during the 60’s and 70’s. Seems like there were an awful lot of bad weather games.
I marvel at the fact that there are very few flags or fights after these hits. It was all accepted for the time. Its hard to point any one hit but the necktie at 11:16 is well delivered.
I think that you bring up a great point - players mostly accepted the rough stuff as part of the game. There may have been some jawing after a cheap shot, but the offender would probably be paid back in full at some point.....either in that game or the next one in which the two teams met. I've read stories where players waited 5 years in order to deliver the payback.
Whatever happened to Dwayne Johnson supposedly wanting to bring the XFL back? I was really hoping we'd get our smash mouth, war-on-the-grid play like this instead of today's NFL touch football. Watching during the 80's I remember the poundings even Joe Montana would take without any 'roughing the passer' flags. No way Tom Brady would have survived during this showcased era of football. If you were a middling QB then really give up any hope of the zebras 'protecting' you-still true today. My Dad told me it was war whenever the Chiefs/Raiders played during the 70's and that John Madden storming up and down the sidelines in a t-shirt during freezing weather was just as entertaining as the gridiron was. The refs seemed to know it was on and kept a minimal presence just to keep it from becoming a brawl.
Yeah, those Chiefs/Raiders games were somethin' else - it was all-out, anything goes. There were other rivalries that were just as intense back then, too. I remember a Dick Butkus quote where he was asked if he intentionally tried to injure another player and he said something to the affect of "I wouldn't do that.....unless it was a really important - like a league game"
I grew up with this but I'm so shocked nobody got crippled or killed! And as far as I know, I don't remember guys missing weeks at a time due to injuries like they do now. I swear the garbage food we've been eating and the pesticides etc. has made all of us more prone to injuries and illness. Even though everybody is taller and beefier now it doesn't mean we're healthier. My neighbor's 6'2" kid threw his back out shoveling for Christ sakes...
I also think guys back then wore bigger shoulder pads and more padding around their thighs and hips to get more protection. Now, everyone wants to he fast, not protected.
I agree with both viewers' comments - being bigger does not necessitate being better and I shake my head in disbelief at how much playing time is now missed. If they were really concerned about injuries, they'd make their players wear far more than biking shorts.
Certainly not with the bikers shorts, lack of padding and itsy bitsy shoulder pads that they wear now. They're not used to getting hit hard now - it's so infrequent. Thanks for watching & commenting!
Another great compilation, dang them shots were nasty and mean. Its a wonder they could suit up and play week after week. Them pain pills must have been x-tra strength back then!!!!!
I think aboyt my video of the 1970's wide receivers and how the best one from each year started every game. With all of the mugging that went on back then, that's amazing. Must've had some great pain pills like you said, Hammer!
One guy who really impressed me with his toughness was Joe Kapp..Larry Brown with the Skins..Raiders Fullbacks Hubbard, Van Eighan, Archie Manning was tough..Keep em Coming..Happy New Year!
Joe Kapp was a middle linebacker posing as a quarterback! He couldn’t pass really well, but when he ran, the defense usually took a beating. I saw him knock out a linebacker! I think instead of quarterback he could’ve been on the defense very easily.
All I can say is THANK YOU for creating this segment. Its phenomenal to see the way real football was played in this era. Also, most of these uniforms are classics! You can see why some teams went back to them in the modern era!
The amount of pain and suffering that the players experienced playing on that crap is hard to fathom. What's worse is the lingering effects. They were modern day gladiators.
@@markgardner9460 Many also paid the price with CTE. I remember many years back, seeing a panel with older ex-players and John Mackey was one of the guests. But, Mackey's wife was also there as his mind had declined to where he couldn't understand some of the things that were said and she would help him out. It was sad to see such a great athlete as just a shell of his former self.
@@markgardner9460 And, consequentially, the number of players from that era suffering from CTE is highly disturbing. CTE, Lou Gehrig's Disease, suicides, and I read somewhere that the average lifespan of a veteran ex-NFL player is 53 years. I wonder how many from that era actually lived long enough to collect the NFL pension?
No joke! Vicious hits back then. Butkus was still formidable in '71, coming back from the 1970 knee injury. Falcons' QB, #11, was Dick Shiner, getting rapped by Giants' MLB, Ron Hornsby, #67, (he supplanted Jim Files ,#58, at times). Shiner played some good games that year, though his stats may not indicate it. It was rare that Tarkenton would lose his cool. He got into a big bruhaha in Buffalo (I think?) after a wicked sideline tackle at the end zone. Eagles were lacking in offense, but that defense, during the white helmet era, was wicked. They played a borderline style, not unlike the Raiders. I used to like watching them. I knew a fight would start sooner or later because of the savage way they played.
Thank you for bringing up Shiner's name, as I was in error referencing #11. Tark got into a fight with the Patriots Ron Bolton in the corner of an end zone one time. He also drilled Jack Youngblood with a football from short range, but most of the time he was as cool as a cucumber.
I can't think of one modern uniform that I prefer over one from the '70's, but that's just me - I'm sure that there are those that prefer the new look.
I knew something was amiss when you passed on the chance to mention Dick Shiener. Reminds me of former Red Sox hurler, Dick Pole. 😅 Another fine video.
You can see clearly why rule changes were necessary….many players from this era unfortunately suffered brain damage or life long injuries including being paralysed. Though we old timers enjoyed this rough and tumble style, don’t forget, it came at a huge cost to the players.
Yep, Bills' linebacker Mike Stratton on Keith Lincoln in the 1964 AFL Championship game, and Ickey Woods was the back whom Ronnie Lott lit up in Super Bowl 23.
For anyone who sees this and says its Barbaric. The Goal is a Touchdown.....meaning you carry the ball into the other teams end zone and put the ball on the Ground. None of this stuff waving it overan imaginary line or flying over a Pylon. NFL is Ridiculous
Wow! I forgot how brutal this game used to be. QUESTION. Will you be doing a tribute video for Cleveland Browns great Frank Ryan? Sadly he passed away today
That's a toughie since I do not have enough video of him in order to properly provide a tribute. I do appreciate your request and will add it to my list of requests in case I'm able to add more vintage video. Thank you!
Frank Ryan has passed? Wow, I didn't know that. I admired him both as a player and for the fact that he had a Ph.D in mathematics. Rest in peace, Frank.
Now thats real football. Not a bunch of crying girls that wants more money and more and more rules. Why not just wrap yourself's in bubble wrap and play. Just big babbies.
thats how footballs played, today there all overpaid and theres no hitting , its roughing the passer, unsportsman like, you hurt his feelings, they made a girls game out of a great sport, and those guys were all underpaid........................
I agree thats when football players left everything on the feild and weren't more concerned about making a an ass out of themselves for just doing there jobs thats why i dont watch it today! If they wanted to be dancers or cheerleaders the should have stayed on the sidelines!!!!
I was just talking to my brother about the same thing with hockey. Yeah they are super skilled today and can skate circles around people - but let's see them play the Flyers of 76 or something. Get their teeth taken out.
@@Kevin-zk9tt and it still is. Tougher than rugby that’s for sure that’s why you need a helmet and pads cause people hit harder. Rules may have gotten soft but there are still parents out there who won’t let their kids play 🤷
Don't get Me started on all that Effeminate Dancing after TDs, INTs. and FRs. that's rampant in Today's game. Utterly Sickening. And all that Pomp and Circumcision for the Super Bowl, too.
For all those who say the old time guys couldn’t play in todays NFL, well, I say these new guys couldn’t play back then.
Totally agree. Our entitlement minded society has pampered guys, and worst, guys have allowed it to happen. The lack of real manhood in most sectors is the biggest crisis.
Facts. Nothing but facts, football was waaaay more bruthal back in the day.
All of these men could play in the modern NFL, given access to modern training and diet.
They were physical outliers in their time and still would be.
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Yup, kinda what I’m inferring. @@yeildo1492
I am so old I remember watching these hits on TV back in the day.
Same here.
Your not old... just mature !! LOL !!
@@lawrencebenjamin502 I'm 60 and mature isn't an adjective my friends would use for me.
Unless it's a serious conversation about tech, business, sociology or politics.
It was war out there on Sundays. A lot of clothesline tackles or necktie tackles. I still wonder how Bobby Douglass and Archie Manning took all those hits. Amazing.
Bobby DOuglass delivered some big hits himself, dude was a wrecking ball in the open field but he like Archie took some brutal shots.
As a RAM fan I actually felt sorry for Archie!@@hammer44head
This is what real football looks like. I really enjoyed watching this, Thank you.
Thank you - I'm glad that you enjoyed it!!
LOVE the spearing, late hits, serious injuries, and especially CTE HITS. REAL footbalL!
These NFL games were all played over 50 years ago, WOW!! Amazing 😮
I like the footage taken from the cameras at field level - it really provides a glimpse into how NFL play was back then.
Time flies, don't it?
They played for keeps! Archie got the stuffing beat out of him, NO had a leaky O-line. Archie was a tuff guy!. Larry Wilson & Jack Tatum used to render guys unconscious on a regular basis. Cliff Harris was a notorious head hunter as was Tatum. A dozen years later two team mates who shared an ignominious title of cheap shots were Fencik and Plank....appropriately they played with Dick Dent. I personally watched Alzado explore the grey areas of dirty play....the games with the Raiders got down right nasty. Thanks brother you're appreciated. -(Bronco) bradd -
Being a Vikings fan as a kid, I got to see plenty of Plank and Fencik. They were somethin' else.....right in the mold of Cliff Harris and Donnie Shell...huge hitters.
To say that Alzado explored the grey areas of dirty play doesn't even begin to describe him,in my opinion! I think he jumped in with both feet!
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@@markgardner9460 Sadly all of the illicit junk Alzado used to turn into a manbeast ultimately destroyed him. Side bar: Alzado fought Mohammed Ali in an ill advised business venture. It was of course a joke with Ali dancing, mugging it up and rabbit punching....Alzado, maybe out of frustration tagged Ali with a haymaker, Ali looked at him like "you weren't supposed to do that" and unleashed a firm rebuke in the form of a fleury of solid combinations. Fat and out of shape it was still MOHAMMED FREKIN ALI Lyle.....very funny. Ali my hero!
I've seen footage of that. Thanks for bringing that up! I'm pretty sure that they fought outdoors. Ali was definitely tagged by Lyle!
As a really old Bear fan I miss the smash mouth football on real grass and in the mud and snow. Seemed there were far less injuries and the games finished in 2 hours. The rules then allowed much of what is now penalized.
I remember games ending way before the second game of the televised double header was to start. The networks would go to the studio and they'd gab about stuff, but they'd run out of material before the next game started. The announcers would be looking around for what to do next.
Only half the passing that they have now (because of massive rules changes going way back) really made those games move along. It also led to less time to score and by late '70s the front office had decided they were losing "the casual viewers" with 16-6 conference title games.
The first swath of rules changes came in in '79 and Bill Walsh was the first to figure out to exploit the changes. It led to the "West Coast dink and dunk offense" that bested Landry's 'pokes in classic '81 playoff, where SF replaced Dallas as the predicted "Team of the '80's." Landry never recovered and wouldn't adjust.
Then came arbitrary tackle box nonsense, followed years later by the recent ticky-tack roughing, targeting, defenseless receiver, horse collar (now just the shirt gets the often game-changing penalty)
Just not the same game ,. . ...!
James
I am also an Old Bear Fan. Sayers and Butkus were My Favorite Bears' Players. Watched alot of Losing back in those days but the Football back then was exciting. None of this Namby Pamby, Protect the QB, Pussification of the NFL You see today. Sayers and Butkus could've Played in ANY Era. Glad they Played back then, despite the Injuries both suffered. The Greatest MLBer and RB of All Time, IMMHO.
Just fantastic footage. All those hard hits and I only remember seeing one flag!
It's like the referees had a limit as to how many penalties they could call in a game.
Awesome video!!!! Grew up watching this type of football!!! Players back then definitely EARNED their paychecks. Also, nice to see ACTUAL uniforms and not this 2020s "uniforms".
Thank you! Yeah, give me the old school, uncluttered, clean-look uniforms and not this mostly dizzying look of today.
Great video....real football....that's why I don't watch it anymore today....
Thank you! Yeah, I can't stomach it anymore either.
I remember watching these games on Sundays and/or the NFL Films show the next week. These games were exciting; however, in hindsight and with the knowledge of what happened to so many of these men after they were out of the game, it's kinda hard to watch. I don't watch any pro sports save for the occasional Hockey game or EPL/EU soccer match.
Too many commercials, teevee timeouts, and reviews on the play.
Anyway, thanks for posting this.
There are far too many commercials; the flow of the game gets destroyed with it, along with those long instant replay reviews. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@markgardner9460 Right? I cut my cable about 10 years ago and pay for YT premium to avoid commercials.
Now, the only time I hear that noise is at the pub playing pool if there's a game on. My mind is so much clearer.
And, yeah, the flow of football is absolutely terrible.
Thanks again for putting this together. It brings back some good memories.
I cut out DirecTv (which was a complete joke) and don't miss it one bit. YT Premium is the way to go!
@markgardner9460 YT University.
Lots of people putting out quality content on building/fixing stuff, etc.
Sheeit was brutal. In a professional manner.
Mike Curtis of the Colts was a beast as linebacker...Mad Dog was the perfect nickname....he should be in the HOF just for his hits.
Curtis went to The Dick Butkus School of Intimidation. The guy was fearless.
I was born in 1966 and I grew up playing rough tackle football with kids in our farming community in the 70's and 80's. My High School won the Maryland State Championship twice in the 80's. My favorite hitters from back then were tough men like Jack Lambert, Mean Joe Greene, Conrad Dobler, Lyle Alzado, and of course Dick Butkus. These men were tough as nails and played the game when it was a real man's game. I hear all the time that today's players are bigger, faster, more athletic, etc. But those attributes do Not necessarily mean they are physically tough. These players had a physical & mental toughness that today's weak and woke players no nothing. about.
Thank you for your comments. I will add to them that when I watched pro football in the '70's, commentators were stating that players were bigger, faster, and stronger than the ones before them. That was continually stated in each subsequent decade. If that's the case, then why aren't guys running sub 4.0 40's? Why aren't guys bench pressing 700 pounds? The answer is that there are limits to what the human body can do and I wish that the media would stop this talk. I definitely agree that just because today's athletes are chiseled, it doesn't mean that they are physically tough.
One of the biggest hits of 1971, Mel Tom of the Eagles knocking out Roger Staubach of the Cowboys on a forearm smash to the back of the head after the ball was intercepted, has not surfaced. But a copy does -- or at the very least, did -- exist, because Tom denied it until the league office saw a clip of it and fined him $1,000.
Staubach wrote about that hit in his autobiography. If it happened today, the fine would be huge and he'd be suspended for a few games, in my opinion.
You can tell it’s 1971 , just listen to the music 🎵
Right on, Tony!
Another great video of how it was. That was a nice memory. When did they stop facemasks and necktie tackles??
Thank you! I'm unsure of the answers to your questions, so I'll need to research that.
When too many of those hits ended playing careers....
I still think horse-collar should be allowed. And I hate that QB is "safe". If you cross LoS, you are just another player@@jayritchie851
First line of Jim Brown's autobiography: "They were going for my eyes."
Not only were players pummeling another, something tells me those old astroturf fields offered vey little protection. When you got thrown down it probably felt like you just ran into a piece of cement.
garden carpet covering concrete = very little protection, as you stated.
IIRC, the original Astroturf fields were concrete covered by 1 inch of a heavy foam rubber that was covered by the Astroturf. It almost hurts just to think about it.
Back when it was football. Not sure what game they play AT today.
Love your channel
Thank you - I'm glad that you enjoy it!
Theres more brutality in this one vid, than ive seen in most current seasons.
This when football was football ‼️‼️‼️🇺🇸
Wearing my 1970s Seahawks fishnet Keith Butler jersey number 53 for this video. He was a hard hitting linebacker.
Yes he was, then he coached the Steelers linebackers and defense for about 20 years. Nice jersey to have.
Heck ya, I grew up watching this kind'a "play". Drop to a knee only to kick-up a tooth!!
George Blanca felt his age on that play.
Yeah, he was 44 years old then. Amazing.
George Blanda played until 1975
You missed the Jack Tatum hit on Riley Odoms. It was the best knock out shot of Tatum’s career
I wish that I had video of every game in their entirety, but I don't. Maybe someday?
This is what real football looks like Now days please players wouldn't make it back then
They wouldn't stand any chance of making it wearing the skimpy "protection" that they wear today...aside from the helmet that is 2 1/2 sizes too big.
Can anyone imagine Dick Butkus having “choose love” on the back of his helmet. Lol. NFL IN 2024 stands for “NATIONAL FEMININE LEAGUE.
He would have used a belt sander and engraved "Intensity!" Over it.
Would have loved to see tom Brady play during this Era of the NFL
So many viewers have stated that he wouldn't have been able to handle the punishment. It would have been so interesting to see.
We'll he joined the NFL in the late 90s and was a starter in the 2000s when they started making some safety rules but helmet to helmet was still legal and guys like John Lynch Ray lewis bill romanawski etc played so maybe he could last a year or two but probably not past his mid 30s
Yeah, not too many QB's prior to '80 played past their mid-30's and if they did, they normally did not play well. Normally, once they hit age 31 or 32, it was a rapid downhill trip.
He was a lot tougher than you think. In his 40's, he played against guys half his age. The great ones can play in any era.
@@jayritchie851 bret farve is the toughest QB of the new age and he proved it when he ayed the saints in 2009
Great job on the video. You see it time after time, players with an open facemask were clearely targeted ( facial ),
** Leo Hayden sighting # 44 !! Vikings #1 draft pick in 71.....in 7 games with the Vikings, he had ZERO touches ,nothing, nada !!11:42
I had to go back and look for #44. What a complete waste of a pick. I covered him in my 1971 NFL Draft video. I think this may be the only professional footage of him that I've seen.
I think you're right, dont recalll any other footage of him. @@markgardner9460
No players from today would last.
This is why I'm becoming more interested in rugby 🏉 instead of the flag football they have in today's NFL.
That makes total sense to me. Almost any hard hit is now deemed "unnecessary roughness". A guy gets tackled and they call it "targeting".
Wasn't Mel Blount part of the great '74 rookie crop for the Steelers? Or was there another Blount on the Steelers in '71?
Mel was drafted in the 3rd round of the 1970 draft.
@@markgardner9460 Thanx. I was thinking of Donnie Shell I realized.
I miss real football! Growing up we were taught to play until the whistle blew and kill the quarterback!!😂
Real men playing real football
"Everything" in this compilation...would " qualify" in the game today....as" unnecessary roughness".... and "15 yd" penalties...."nowadays"....a standard game....would never....get off the "ground".. ..due to these over the "top"and "brazen" violations...."However" I am a "fan"of the "Gladiator" style"!!
Can you imagine how long games would take to be played today if they were played like they were in '71? Constant penalties. Frequent player ejections. Weekly fines totaling the gross national products of small third world nations.
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"Great Point".."Mark"!!
This is why football is so different today.cheapshots were ok back then,you could hurt people intentionally.
It's amazing that they let all of the rough stuff go by without penalties....and there certainly weren't any suspensions back then.
@@markgardner9460 I agree.nobody got suspended even when someone was hurt badly.im 58 so I was into football in the mid 70s till about the 90s.it started changing to much and today it's not even the same more athletic ability and nobody like bill romanoski who bragged about cheap shots. I saw green bay destroy Dallas this weekend,the game is much faster today to.
That's what they want - a track meet. Turn a simple 2 yard pass into a long touchdown. Inflate QB's stats to where they're not meaningful.
Today's players have super skills. But rules changed. So has toughness as described. Look at the Pro Bowl game? It's now flag game. That says a lot.
such violence accompanied by such snazzy music. no wonder i'm so messed up now. was 13 then .
13 in '71 thinking about driving a '68 Vette
Today it's like 2hand tag and the game is already decided before it starts..‼️⁉️🥴🇺🇸
Ah, brings back memories, football was played by players who played the way it was designed. Now it’s played by millionaires who make business decisions, and make the game looked rigged.
The people born after 1972 are a different people.
So are the idiots on the field messing with Mike Curtis
I used to love to see the hard hits and general brutality of this game until I saw so many of these guys suffer with CTE and other ailments and the NFL's atrocious successful attempt to hide this truth for so long. It's difficult to see an animal suffer like that let alone another human being. I'm cool with not watching this garbage anymore and I know, nobody should care what I think. Just tossing in my opinion, I guess.
Thank you for offering your opinion.
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Querer comparar la NFL de los años 70 con la actual se me hace ocioso, los tiempos han cambiado ahora se trata de proteger la integridad de los jugadores, para aquellos que añoran como se jugaba el fútbol en aquellas épocas vean la película "Concusion"donde muestran las consecuencias de como se jugaba antes
A lot of those cobcussions can be attributed to thin helmets with insufficient padding, as well as thin patio carpet covering concrete onto which the players played.
This is back when men where men not little boys
everyone of those hits/tackle would be a 15 yard penalty today... that's why I don't watch today NFL MONEY AND GREED!!
Can you imagine how high the scores would be with all of those 15 yard penalties? They'd have such short fields in which to score.
When young guys ask me why I don't watch today's NFL, I show them films like this.
Perfect
Sounds like MMA is more your style
@@barriem5318 Not really. I'm not into watching 2 grown men in diapers rolling around on the floor. I just love football the way it used to be played. The way I used to play it. Organized close combat in any weather.
Me to.
The moment the cowboys knelt I stopped watching the NFL forever
Here’s a thought: All of us kids playing playground and backyard ball during the 70’s and 80’s saw this as within the rules. Kids got body slammed, clotheslined, tripped and speared regularly. They don’t even allow tackle football at recess any more.
Some of my favorite childhood memories are of playing tackle football at recess.
As a 10 year old in 76 I used to play against 14 and 15 year olds at the park,I remember picking off a pass and running it back about 40 yards almost to the end zone when out of nowhere I got clothes lined in the back of the head and went flying end over end😂 losing the ball from getting hit so hard,I still got right back up and kept playing,that's how it was back then.
My friends and I played a bunch of guys from our high school football team. We played dirty and kicked their ass
With no pads hard tackle
Thats how we played in the backyatd back in the 70s for sure
Tom Brady wouldn't last a season if he played back then
I agree. So many viewers have made that same comment throughout my Hard Hits, Cheap Shot & Fights video series.
Agreed Brady would whine like a puppy..
He certainly wouldn’t have the stats he compiled in his tenure. He’d have been roughed up more. You can’t touch QBs today - literally.
@@markgardner9460hell, half of them didn't make it, it wasn't nothing for team to have 5or6 different starting qbs in a couple of seasons.
He wouldn't last a quarter
Marv Hubbard was a tank...John Brockington too.
When men played the game
To think the late great Conrad Dobler would not even be in the NFL for another year. And the Deacon Jones head slap was still legal.
It was still legal until '77, I think. Carl Eller was another player who utilized it to great effect.
I met the "Secretary of Defense" Decon Jones at a gas station once. When we shook hands, his hand swallowed half my forearm. He had huge hands! I met Ken Norton Sr. before that and it was the same. I can't imagine getting hit with those fists.
1971 meant one thing on the field. You better have your pads and protection in the right places and the chin-strap fastened. One way or another you were going to get physically damaged. Either by an opponent, your teammates, or a brick wall. 1971 was also about a whole lot of defense and one special player
Living in Minnesota as a kid in those days, I remember a McDonalds(perhaps in Minneapolis or Bloomington) with a lot of Vikings pictures. One in particular was very telling. It was Bob Griese being mauled by #88 Alan Page. To this day I am yet to see any player more exciting to watch than the HOF DT. My 1st favorite player. 1971 was the year of Alan Page. Strong and quick at 245lbs. Page was unblockable. One late game against Detroit at the Met. It was called the Page game. After being called offsides, Alan took over the game. Showing just how much havoc #88 could cause. The 1st Defensive player to make MVP.
That's right - if you were a ballcarrier, you'd better not only have your head on a swivel, but you'd better not let up heading out of bounds or into the end zone. Heck, guys were still getting tackled 9 yards deep into the end zone.
Page was so quick off the ball; it didn't matter if he was double-teamed cuz he'd split them. Bob Lilly was like that, too.
As a biased Vikings fan,Page had a fantastic game and 1971; season still one of my favorite players ever 52 years later!
@@stevenzimmerman4057 We went to a Church called St. Bonaventure(with Br. John wailing on the Organ). On our way we would pass by the Old Met. I'm so glad we left before that became the Mall Of America.
I have a book called Gamebreakers of the NFL . With Page on the cover tackling Ken Willard(SF) at the Met. The Page story opens with the Lions game. On one drive, Alan was called for two 15 yard penalties on back-back plays. On that same series, Page(furious) sacks Greg Landry 3 times, draws a holding call, and stops a draw play. He would block a punt later that game. That's how an MVPage plays this game.
I have that same book, along with a lot of those other NFL Library books - great stuff.
Made the Purple Gang Purple people eaters.
All the quarterbacks back then took a real beating.
ALL of them is accurate
That's because they were football players, not just QB's like cry baby Tom Brady.
0:10 Butkus taking out Charlie Sanders. The story behind it is a couple of plays earlier Sanders crushed Doug Buffone who told Butkus. According to Buffone upon hearing this Butkus said he would take care of Sanders. I think these guys played so they could simplify hit each other. God knows it wasn’t for the money.
Thanks for the inside scoop on that play - I hadn't heard that before. How 'bout the amount of blood on Buffone's pants during that footage of #85 drilling that guy on the sidelines? That used to be commonplace.
@@markgardner9460 totally agree. Also, did it rain or snow more on Sundays during the 60’s and 70’s. Seems like there were an awful lot of bad weather games.
I know - it seems that way.
It was either after this play or shortly thereafter when Chuck Hughes collapsed and later died.
@@johnm8096correct. Same game
This is when football was real
When wasn't criying QB; no penalties for hard hits; no ridículous rules for essential football. Those years was asoweme.
When the game was played by real men with real big balls!!!!😮👍🏈👍🏈👍🏈👍
REALLY DUMB LANCE!
Most definitely! Posers need not apply.
I marvel at the fact that there are very few flags or fights after these hits. It was all accepted for the time. Its hard to point any one hit but the necktie at 11:16 is well delivered.
I think that you bring up a great point - players mostly accepted the rough stuff as part of the game. There may have been some jawing after a cheap shot, but the offender would probably be paid back in full at some point.....either in that game or the next one in which the two teams met. I've read stories where players waited 5 years in order to deliver the payback.
@@markgardner9460 No one was safe in that era. As old coaches use to say you had to keep" your head on a swivel".
I agree. The ball carrier was worried about being caught from behind and did not see the tackler coming from the side.
Whatever happened to Dwayne Johnson supposedly wanting to bring the XFL back? I was really hoping we'd get our smash mouth, war-on-the-grid play like this instead of today's NFL touch football. Watching during the 80's I remember the poundings even Joe Montana would take without any 'roughing the passer' flags. No way Tom Brady would have survived during this showcased era of football. If you were a middling QB then really give up any hope of the zebras 'protecting' you-still true today. My Dad told me it was war whenever the Chiefs/Raiders played during the 70's and that John Madden storming up and down the sidelines in a t-shirt during freezing weather was just as entertaining as the gridiron was. The refs seemed to know it was on and kept a minimal presence just to keep it from becoming a brawl.
Yeah, those Chiefs/Raiders games were somethin' else - it was all-out, anything goes. There were other rivalries that were just as intense back then, too. I remember a Dick Butkus quote where he was asked if he intentionally tried to injure another player and he said something to the affect of "I wouldn't do that.....unless it was a really important - like a league game"
I love great hits, but These are some brutal, frightening collisions and hits..RIP Darryl Stingley - he was a victim of the cheap shots of this era..
That's a really cool thumbnail that you have!
@@markgardner9460 thanks! That’s the Colorado Stat Rams alternative helmet, but it should definitely be their regular helmet.
I agree!
@@Scott-gc8lr it's definitely a nice "lid!"
The hit that Tatum put on Stingley was not a cheap shot. And I hate the Raiders.
That's how football should always be played
I grew up with this but I'm so shocked nobody got crippled or killed! And as far as I know, I don't remember guys missing weeks at a time due to injuries like they do now. I swear the garbage food we've been eating and the pesticides etc. has made all of us more prone to injuries and illness. Even though everybody is taller and beefier now it doesn't mean we're healthier. My neighbor's 6'2" kid threw his back out shoveling for Christ sakes...
I also think guys back then wore bigger shoulder pads and more padding around their thighs and hips to get more protection. Now, everyone wants to he fast, not protected.
I agree with both viewers' comments - being bigger does not necessitate being better and I shake my head in disbelief at how much playing time is now missed. If they were really concerned about injuries, they'd make their players wear far more than biking shorts.
I do love your channel though. Wish I could go back and see these games live.@@markgardner9460
That would be awesome!
In the summer of '71 my dad, brother and I dug our basement by hand: shovels, picks etc,... frfr
Everything about football back then was better: the play, the uniforms. Football is some ghetto game now and it’s unwatchable!
No mugging for the camera. Just mugging opposing players.
When football was played the way it was made to be played.
todays pampered players would be carted off by the numbers if they were to get tackled and hit like this , I miss the glory days of football
Sometimes defenders would wrap their forearms up & Sometimes even putting in metal inside to give a little extra effect.
That's right - they'd used Plaster of Paris, too.
None of the QBs of the 21st century would have survived playing back then.
Certainly not with the bikers shorts, lack of padding and itsy bitsy shoulder pads that they wear now. They're not used to getting hit hard now - it's so infrequent. Thanks for watching & commenting!
This is so True
Another great compilation, dang them shots were nasty and mean. Its a wonder they could suit up and play week after week. Them pain pills must have been x-tra strength back then!!!!!
I think aboyt my video of the 1970's wide receivers and how the best one from each year started every game. With all of the mugging that went on back then, that's amazing. Must've had some great pain pills like you said, Hammer!
Probably also a few bottles of liquor consumed by some of the players back then, and perhaps (especially by this period) a little herbal remedy too.
One guy who really impressed me with his toughness was Joe Kapp..Larry Brown with the Skins..Raiders Fullbacks Hubbard, Van Eighan, Archie Manning was tough..Keep em Coming..Happy New Year!
Couldn't agree more - thank you!!
Joe Kapp was a middle linebacker posing as a quarterback! He couldn’t pass really well, but when he ran, the defense usually took a beating. I saw him knock out a linebacker! I think instead of quarterback he could’ve been on the defense very easily.
@bwbw1341 In the NFL Championship Game in 1969 against Cleveland, Kapp knocked LB Jim Houston out cold.
2:25--Fran Tarkenton may have been a preacher's son, but he played with an edge.
He didn't take any guff. I've seen him fire footballs at defensive players point blank - he had a fire in his belly, that's for sure.
@markgardner9460 the DE didn't have to drag Fran like a sackcof potatoes for almost 5yds, ijs.
@@markgardner9460when Fran retired he was the NFL's all time leading passer
Attempts, completions, yards, td's and highest completion percentage in a single game (17 of 18). He was #1 across the board.
No wonder there was so much CTE from that era
Love that hard hitting 70s!
It doesn't get any better!
The QB slide had not yet been invented.
All I can say is THANK YOU for creating this segment. Its phenomenal to see the way real football was played in this era. Also, most of these uniforms are classics! You can see why some teams went back to them in the modern era!
Thank you very much for watching and commenting. I love uniforms from the '70's - I think they're the best - clean with no clutter.
Keep in mind that the artificial turf in those days was a piece of carpet stapled to a piece of plywood attached to a concrete floor.
The amount of pain and suffering that the players experienced playing on that crap is hard to fathom. What's worse is the lingering effects. They were modern day gladiators.
@@markgardner9460 Many also paid the price with CTE. I remember many years back, seeing a panel with older ex-players and John Mackey was one of the guests. But, Mackey's wife was also there as his mind had declined to where he couldn't understand some of the things that were said and she would help him out. It was sad to see such a great athlete as just a shell of his former self.
The only thing that compared to the violence was the awful playing surfaces..
@@markgardner9460 And, consequentially, the number of players from that era suffering from CTE is highly disturbing. CTE, Lou Gehrig's Disease, suicides, and I read somewhere that the average lifespan of a veteran ex-NFL player is 53 years. I wonder how many from that era actually lived long enough to collect the NFL pension?
No joke! Vicious hits back then. Butkus was still formidable in '71, coming back from the 1970 knee injury. Falcons' QB, #11, was Dick Shiner, getting rapped by Giants' MLB, Ron Hornsby, #67, (he supplanted Jim Files ,#58, at times). Shiner played some good games that year, though his stats may not indicate it. It was rare that Tarkenton would lose his cool. He got into a big bruhaha in Buffalo (I think?) after a wicked sideline tackle at the end zone. Eagles were lacking in offense, but that defense, during the white helmet era, was wicked. They played a borderline style, not unlike the Raiders. I used to like watching them. I knew a fight would start sooner or later because of the savage way they played.
Thank you for bringing up Shiner's name, as I was in error referencing #11. Tark got into a fight with the Patriots Ron Bolton in the corner of an end zone one time. He also drilled Jack Youngblood with a football from short range, but most of the time he was as cool as a cucumber.
@@markgardner9460 Thanks- it was against the Patriots, not Buffalo, where Fran really lost his temper
I dig those green Eagles jerseys with the white helmet - just had to add that.
@@markgardner9460 The Eagles unis now,like a lot of teans (New England and the Rams come to mind and Atlanta)are nowhere near as good now!
I can't think of one modern uniform that I prefer over one from the '70's, but that's just me - I'm sure that there are those that prefer the new look.
The NFL today cries in mercy, please be nice and don't hurt me 😢
No doubt. Any hard tackle is deemed unnecessary roughness. How else ya gonna get 'em to the ground?
Great stuff Mark! Thanks for keeping the real game on the tube!
Thank you, Mark! It's a labor of love
@@markgardner9460 it shows! You obviously enjoy making the videos, and I look forward to seeing them!
I knew something was amiss when you passed on the chance to mention Dick Shiener. Reminds me of former Red Sox hurler, Dick Pole. 😅 Another fine video.
Yes, I was in error by not mentioning Mr. Shiner. Pole was also a Pitching Coach, I think.
Thanks for watching and commenting again, Evan!
You can see clearly why rule changes were necessary….many players from this era unfortunately suffered brain damage or life long injuries including being paralysed. Though we old timers enjoyed this rough and tumble style, don’t forget, it came at a huge cost to the players.
Yes, they paid a steep price. Thank you for watching and bringing this up - very appreciated.
The real men of the NFL
This should be Rated R for violence
If Tua even watched these replays, he be out for the season because he’s a softest player in NFL history
Tua took a helluva hit, his head really hit the turf hard taking all that impact, his fingers seemed momentarily paralyzed.
That Buffalo hit in a AFL championship game on a charger back , and Ronnie Lott laying the wood on a back for the Bengals in a SB> standout !
Yep, Bills' linebacker Mike Stratton on Keith Lincoln in the 1964 AFL Championship game, and Ickey Woods was the back whom Ronnie Lott lit up in Super Bowl 23.
For anyone who sees this and says its Barbaric. The Goal is a Touchdown.....meaning you carry the ball into the other teams end zone and put the ball on the Ground.
None of this stuff waving it overan imaginary line or flying over a Pylon. NFL is Ridiculous
This is back when men played football. 😂
Wow! I forgot how brutal this game used to be.
QUESTION. Will you be doing a tribute video for Cleveland Browns great Frank Ryan? Sadly he passed away today
That's a toughie since I do not have enough video of him in order to properly provide a tribute. I do appreciate your request and will add it to my list of requests in case I'm able to add more vintage video. Thank you!
Sorry to hear that about Frank Ryan...RIP
@@markgardner9460 Maybe you could do a "Director's Cut" type quick tribute?
Frank Ryan RIP.
Frank Ryan has passed? Wow, I didn't know that. I admired him both as a player and for the fact that he had a Ph.D in mathematics. Rest in peace, Frank.
Now thats real football. Not a bunch of crying girls that wants more money and more and more rules. Why not just wrap yourself's in bubble wrap and play. Just big babbies.
The Rams uni's were so damn nice. Best looking uni's in the league. What they wear now looks like a mardi gras costume designed by RuPaul.
thats how footballs played, today there all overpaid and theres no hitting , its roughing the passer, unsportsman like, you hurt his feelings, they made a girls game out of a great sport, and those guys were all underpaid........................
I agree thats when football players left everything on the feild and weren't more concerned about making a an ass out of themselves for just doing there jobs thats why i dont watch it today! If they wanted to be dancers or cheerleaders the should have stayed on the sidelines!!!!
NFL today is almost sissified compared to real Football….mud,blood, guts and we’ll need another ambulance..
I was just talking to my brother about the same thing with hockey. Yeah they are super skilled today and can skate circles around people - but let's see them play the Flyers of 76 or something. Get their teeth taken out.
Could they take the punishment? Would they want to gut it out or quit? Can't judge that with a measuring stick or scale.
Back then players were players. It was a tough sport back then ‼️‼️🇺🇸
@@Kevin-zk9tt and it still is. Tougher than rugby that’s for sure that’s why you need a helmet and pads cause people hit harder. Rules may have gotten soft but there are still parents out there who won’t let their kids play 🤷
When it was football. Not dancing with the stars.
You got that right - I liked that.
Don't get Me started on all that Effeminate Dancing after TDs, INTs. and FRs. that's rampant in Today's game. Utterly Sickening. And all that Pomp and Circumcision for the Super Bowl, too.
If they played like this today,nobody would be left to play with how big,strong,and fast the athletes are today wow.
That's a fact
Well, you’re disregarding the fact that EVERYONE is that way…so not to the extent you think.