Thanks for all the lovely comments regarding this topic - I'm so glad so many of you are excited to see the results, as am I! I HOPE you all have a happy Christmas with your loved ones, thanks for sticking around and watching my videos, you're all stars.
I do wood carving, and which adds a third player- what do I have to change about my design to make it work with what the piece throws at me. More than once my fishing lure has had to become a dragon because the wood didn't want to be a fishing lure, it wanted to be a dragon. Also because if there's a gigantic knot right where I need to do fiddly little fine work- the knot is going to win and I need to readjust things
I think this conversation is near-exactly the same as "art vs craft." Personally, you cannot have art without craftsmanship-nor craft without artistry. I mean this in a literally and figurative sense. Artistry is involuntary with humans; whether we want to instill a creation with it or not. However, artistry without intention or craft is just living. NOW, with that said, I think great Art & Craft is when the human behind it harnesses both intentionally while riding the wave of that which they CANNOT control. What's that old proverb? "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity" You can curate and set parameters to "budget" spontaneity into a process. I think Florian Gadsby does this WONDERFULLY. :)
My greatest success while doing my artwork has been something like your statement. I love the unexpected , the mistake made good. I believe my 'great leaps forward' have been due to an openness to accepting and learning from the work itself. Looking for and being aware of unintentional happenings. The piece becomes so much greater during this interaction than I could have every come up with myself. I wonder sometimes if a greater power is guiding me as some wonderful things are made on my bench which I confess I really had very little input into. To take advantage of this phenomena I try to become simply, the conduit through with the good stuff flows. "If you get to where you wanted to, then somethings gone wrong": Riley Brewster.
Although in some way when this spots occur by chance kinda makes them a bit more special I love that you saw that and found a way to add interest to your pieces without deviating from your original minimalist view. They are beautiful with or without a stroke of luck
That random example at 1:30 has me wondering about intentionally putting in bronze, controlling location and size (and color?), to create a little Pleiades or other constellation. Orion with a really red Betelgeuse could be really interesting. Especially if it's subtle enough not to be obvious, but more a delightful discovery.
I think it's easy and understandable to just stick with what works, but you're constantly innovating on your work while keeping true to your design philosophy. It's amazing to watch, and I'm so glad that you document this process. Great job, Florian.
I love hearing about your process. Pottery for me is almost all about process and not the end work. I love that it seems impossible to master pottery because there are infinite possibilities; this keeps me going back again and again.
Its really cool to see how your videos evolved. From an emotionless (or quite annoyed) speech to a warming "happy holidays". There is a feeling that we don't quite get enough of your videos, but that's what draws me in every time. I'm glad you take your time with the videos, and don't force them. It keeps the high quality, the enjoyment and authenticity. Happy holiday to you as well.
I was never quite annoyed! Just finding my feet and feeling anxious about putting my voice/self out there - I feel much more confident about my narrations these days and the videos too, hopefully that comes across! The older stuff feels rather monotonous and I've been actively trying to change that. Thanks for watching! Enjoy your time off.
@@floriangadsby I find my videos often have a nervous energy just trying to stay even toned and not anxious sounding. I hope it's as easy for me as it is for you one day ❤ Happy holidays ⛄
I love to hear and see bits and pieces of your creative process. I'm not a potter and don't intend to become one, but I do dabble in some other creative endeavors, so I'm always interested in learning about others' creative processes. Plus I really like your pots. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for letting us see you explore an idea in this kind of simple, straightforward and - crucially! - unfinished form like this. Getting a look into creative processes like this is always super fascinating. Looking forward to seeing the results! I really love the mix of intentionality and working within the constraints put onto you by the materials like you're doing here, and taking these interesting accidents and running with them is super fun to watch. Also, I got the thought stuck in my head that it would be a super neat extension of this to add a third speck, also along the same line/plane, but this time inside the footwell - a secret spot, so to speak, one that you have to look for, and that you have to handle the pot to find. Feel free to steal the idea if you should want to, unless you've already thought of it yourself obviously!
as a potter your videos are so inspiring, id love to hear more about your goals for next year. its wonderful seeing an artist passionate about their work and getting excited about learning and trying new things, especially since every artist is different and no matter what the medium is every artist has something that inspires them.
I don’t work with clay, I never really have and I never really plan to, but I love watching your videos and for some reason I find myself taking note of all the techniques and tips you have 😂 beautiful pieces by the way, I’m curious to see how they turn out
3:8 fun fact about the “warm+dry” feeling; humans don’t actually have distinct senses to detect _wetness,_ as in, when something like fabric is damp, and instead can tell something is wet when it is noticeably colder :D so your clay being warm and dry is actually the same sensation, it’s just being labeled differently in your mind i suppose
oh what a cool thing to have happened with the spontaneous lining up of the dots in the original! I'm sure the pots will turn out wonderful. I also adore how the bronze spec looks almost like an ammonite fossil in the thumbnail picture. Happy Christmas and all the best for the New Year Florian!
oh, seconding this. also, it perhaps feels cliche and maybe not particularly suited to florian's work, but this also feels like it would be a really gorgeous way to make constellations
While I'm not likely to use metal in my work the way you do, I live the idea of having some sort of eye catcher on the inside and outside of a pot. I'm anxious to see these completed.
I'm compelled to think about how much work you've put in to come to this point of discovery. How else could you have come to this design choice/decision? You're experimental approach has allowed you the opportunity extract something very specific from a huge array of potential outcomes, and it's very different from subjugating the process of your craft to disconnected, abstract or arbitrary choices. In short, I can't think of a more positive influence, or better way to choose a design to incorporate into your work. It speaks deeply to the human proclivity to order and categorise the natural world as one experiences it - a distillation of form and beauty.
Hello @floriangadsby I'm a chemist from France and part time potter, the idea of noble metal in aluminosilicate made me wonder a bit and I tried with some gold. Also tried with borosilicate glazes, would be happy to share the results with you if interested. Also thank you for you videos 😊
Sunspot bowls. That little accentuating dot of warmth on the crisp cool bowl is elegant, simple, unique. It fits into your style of work and like you mentioned, it doesn’t take away from the simplicity and adds a nice feature
Florian, I have a question, what camera do you use? Btw I’m a fan of your artwork, I’m a potter too and your videos always teach me something, thank you 🤍
Ah, well, there's been a lot of those videos recently, going from beginning to end, they tend to come in cycles after I've fired the kiln a few times and I've now entered the 'beginning' of a making cycle, so there'll be a lot of experimental videos like this coming your way I imagine, or more tutorial based films. Thanks for watching and happy holidays!
something that could be interesting is using copper carbonate in a wash put onto pots once bisque fired, and being able to add linear marks of red, similar to the ridges you add to your pots
This is exciting, thanks for sharing your process for testing this new idea. As a beginner potter, I am learning a great deal from your content, combining it with my other teachers to find my own style and processes.
I really need to find a class that my wife and I can take here locally. I used to really want to make something on a pottery wheel (I still do) but now I seem to be drawn to the shaping after it’s been drying and place it back on the wheel. It’s silly but I could see designing my own tools and even using tools that are for other crafting hobbies. I could actually see using some leather working tools to create patterns and design details on a piece. Then there’s some different woodworking tools like card scrapers or even small hand planes/ violin planes and even using a couple lathe tools. I guess I would probably need to own my own wheel so I could get creative… either that or make friends with someone who would be interested in trying the ideas out.
One other idea you could try is using very fine metal wires and wrap them in the sharp angles of your pot might be overwhelming in term of contrast but I think it might be worth a try
Maybe a fun idea would be to find a way to insert the copper below your maker's mark? It might fire to look like a wax seal or similar. Plus give interest/asymmetry to the base.
If this works well, it would be a very interesting element to have a line of the dots down the outside of a vessel, just like you've done with the ridge of clay on one vessel you showed. Making that line with a series of red spots could be very interstitial.
Lime popping is when there's a plaster contaminate in the clay, if you don't catch it, as the clay is bisque fired and then glaze fired, it expands and creates a small crater in the surface, popping away any glaze that's over it. Dreadfully annoying!
I wonder if some thin copper wire would look nice? i was just messing with the coils on some rusted pickups that were gonna be trashed anyways. just on the rim or something like that to make a thin strip of red. but maybe it would be difficult to position straight enough to get something that looks clean and intentional.
i wonder if you could use a thin bronze wire pushed all the way through and trimmed on the inside and outside with flush cutters? might be cool if you end up with one of those red blobs which matches exactly on the inside and outside of the same spot?
Long ago the definition of art was brought to the attention of the US supreme court (over a Brancusi sculpture )and it was decided that INTENTION was the definition. For example a plumber might make a very artistic combination of twists and turns of pipes but if it was not done with intention to created art then it was not art.
I enjoy your videos Florian but don't make yourself ill or burn yourself ill just to make a video. For me fewer videos is better than non. God bless you.
@@floriangadsby I...what...seriously? Wow, that's pretty wild. I made that comment because my partner and I, both Virgos, have similar habits like analyzing and trying to intentionally recreate spontaneous results. At any rate, I can hardly wait to see these pieces fired. Green + red seems like one of the rarer complementary color combos to see used. Possibly because at higher saturation the colors just read as "Christmas". But I really love how the rich red pops against the relatively muted greens in the bronze inclusion pieces you've shard so far!
Thanks for all the lovely comments regarding this topic - I'm so glad so many of you are excited to see the results, as am I! I HOPE you all have a happy Christmas with your loved ones, thanks for sticking around and watching my videos, you're all stars.
The creator dilema :). Introducing chaos to battle conformity, then trying to harness the chaos to ensure it doesn’t break the mold too much.
I do wood carving, and which adds a third player- what do I have to change about my design to make it work with what the piece throws at me. More than once my fishing lure has had to become a dragon because the wood didn't want to be a fishing lure, it wanted to be a dragon. Also because if there's a gigantic knot right where I need to do fiddly little fine work- the knot is going to win and I need to readjust things
I think this conversation is near-exactly the same as "art vs craft." Personally, you cannot have art without craftsmanship-nor craft without artistry.
I mean this in a literally and figurative sense. Artistry is involuntary with humans; whether we want to instill a creation with it or not. However, artistry without intention or craft is just living. NOW, with that said, I think great Art & Craft is when the human behind it harnesses both intentionally while riding the wave of that which they CANNOT control.
What's that old proverb? "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity" You can curate and set parameters to "budget" spontaneity into a process. I think Florian Gadsby does this WONDERFULLY. :)
My greatest success while doing my artwork has been something like your statement. I love the unexpected , the mistake made good. I believe my 'great leaps forward' have been due to an openness to accepting and learning from the work itself. Looking for and being aware of unintentional happenings. The piece becomes so much greater during this interaction than I could have every come up with myself. I wonder sometimes if a greater power is guiding me as some wonderful things are made on my bench which I confess I really had very little input into. To take advantage of this phenomena I try to become simply, the conduit through with the good stuff flows.
"If you get to where you wanted to, then somethings gone wrong": Riley Brewster.
This is very cool to me. Taking inspiration from the best of the spontaneous randomness and using it to even stronger effect intentionally.
Although in some way when this spots occur by chance kinda makes them a bit more special I love that you saw that and found a way to add interest to your pieces without deviating from your original minimalist view. They are beautiful with or without a stroke of luck
That random example at 1:30 has me wondering about intentionally putting in bronze, controlling location and size (and color?), to create a little Pleiades or other constellation. Orion with a really red Betelgeuse could be really interesting. Especially if it's subtle enough not to be obvious, but more a delightful discovery.
A celestial dinner plate, perhaps?
I think it's easy and understandable to just stick with what works, but you're constantly innovating on your work while keeping true to your design philosophy. It's amazing to watch, and I'm so glad that you document this process. Great job, Florian.
I love hearing about your process. Pottery for me is almost all about process and not the end work. I love that it seems impossible to master pottery because there are infinite possibilities; this keeps me going back again and again.
Its really cool to see how your videos evolved. From an emotionless (or quite annoyed) speech to a warming "happy holidays". There is a feeling that we don't quite get enough of your videos, but that's what draws me in every time. I'm glad you take your time with the videos, and don't force them. It keeps the high quality, the enjoyment and authenticity. Happy holiday to you as well.
I was never quite annoyed! Just finding my feet and feeling anxious about putting my voice/self out there - I feel much more confident about my narrations these days and the videos too, hopefully that comes across! The older stuff feels rather monotonous and I've been actively trying to change that. Thanks for watching! Enjoy your time off.
@@floriangadsby I find my videos often have a nervous energy just trying to stay even toned and not anxious sounding. I hope it's as easy for me as it is for you one day ❤ Happy holidays ⛄
Hope you have a lovely Christmas! The bronze dots are very cool. I'm excited to see how these ones turn out.
I love to hear and see bits and pieces of your creative process. I'm not a potter and don't intend to become one, but I do dabble in some other creative endeavors, so I'm always interested in learning about others' creative processes. Plus I really like your pots. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for letting us see you explore an idea in this kind of simple, straightforward and - crucially! - unfinished form like this. Getting a look into creative processes like this is always super fascinating. Looking forward to seeing the results! I really love the mix of intentionality and working within the constraints put onto you by the materials like you're doing here, and taking these interesting accidents and running with them is super fun to watch. Also, I got the thought stuck in my head that it would be a super neat extension of this to add a third speck, also along the same line/plane, but this time inside the footwell - a secret spot, so to speak, one that you have to look for, and that you have to handle the pot to find. Feel free to steal the idea if you should want to, unless you've already thought of it yourself obviously!
as a potter your videos are so inspiring, id love to hear more about your goals for next year. its wonderful seeing an artist passionate about their work and getting excited about learning and trying new things, especially since every artist is different and no matter what the medium is every artist has something that inspires them.
I don’t work with clay, I never really have and I never really plan to, but I love watching your videos and for some reason I find myself taking note of all the techniques and tips you have 😂 beautiful pieces by the way, I’m curious to see how they turn out
Happy holidays, Florian! Your videos are a joy to watch.
3:8 fun fact about the “warm+dry” feeling; humans don’t actually have distinct senses to detect _wetness,_ as in, when something like fabric is damp, and instead can tell something is wet when it is noticeably colder :D so your clay being warm and dry is actually the same sensation, it’s just being labeled differently in your mind i suppose
jeez, only just realised the timestamp didn't work lol
it's meant to be 3:08
I love your work. This is a very beautiful way of using these tiny offcuts. This intention works as the spots are random sizes.
oh what a cool thing to have happened with the spontaneous lining up of the dots in the original! I'm sure the pots will turn out wonderful. I also adore how the bronze spec looks almost like an ammonite fossil in the thumbnail picture. Happy Christmas and all the best for the New Year Florian!
I think some simple patterns like three dots in a triangle or a vertical line would also suit your work
oh, seconding this. also, it perhaps feels cliche and maybe not particularly suited to florian's work, but this also feels like it would be a really gorgeous way to make constellations
I watched the very first metal experiment and I never thought you would stick with it. Nice!
Im excited to see how it comes out! It's a cool idea, I could see myself always using the bowl in a particular orientation because of the dots
this is such a lovely way to add character to the work
While I'm not likely to use metal in my work the way you do, I live the idea of having some sort of eye catcher on the inside and outside of a pot. I'm anxious to see these completed.
I'm compelled to think about how much work you've put in to come to this point of discovery. How else could you have come to this design choice/decision? You're experimental approach has allowed you the opportunity extract something very specific from a huge array of potential outcomes, and it's very different from subjugating the process of your craft to disconnected, abstract or arbitrary choices.
In short, I can't think of a more positive influence, or better way to choose a design to incorporate into your work. It speaks deeply to the human proclivity to order and categorise the natural world as one experiences it - a distillation of form and beauty.
Hello @floriangadsby I'm a chemist from France and part time potter, the idea of noble metal in aluminosilicate made me wonder a bit and I tried with some gold. Also tried with borosilicate glazes, would be happy to share the results with you if interested.
Also thank you for you videos 😊
Oh yeah? I'd love to see the results! There's a contact page on my website, or you can DM images on Instagram!
would love to see your results as well as I’m a hobby goldsmith and was wondering about adding more precious metals!
@@floriangadsby I sent you a message on your website, I hope my observations can be of some help
@@pippokommenda960 Is there somewhere I can send you thoses pictures ?
Joyeux Noël à toi aussi!
As always, can't wait to see the result !
Me too! Thanks for watching!
Sunspot bowls. That little accentuating dot of warmth on the crisp cool bowl is elegant, simple, unique. It fits into your style of work and like you mentioned, it doesn’t take away from the simplicity and adds a nice feature
It is really inspiring, watching you work. Thank you and have a merry christmas. I can't wait to see, what gems you create in 2025.
I love the short update videos where you chronicle he ideas.
thanks man, hope you have a good christmas too
Florian, I have a question, what camera do you use? Btw I’m a fan of your artwork, I’m a potter too and your videos always teach me something, thank you 🤍
Thanks Florian. I had a feeling we weren’t going to see the end product tonight you tease ! Merry Christmas and happy new year…
Ah, well, there's been a lot of those videos recently, going from beginning to end, they tend to come in cycles after I've fired the kiln a few times and I've now entered the 'beginning' of a making cycle, so there'll be a lot of experimental videos like this coming your way I imagine, or more tutorial based films. Thanks for watching and happy holidays!
something that could be interesting is using copper carbonate in a wash put onto pots once bisque fired, and being able to add linear marks of red, similar to the ridges you add to your pots
This is exciting, thanks for sharing your process for testing this new idea. As a beginner potter, I am learning a great deal from your content, combining it with my other teachers to find my own style and processes.
They are quite lovely
Looking forward to seeing the final result.
I think this is a cool idea! It's a bit disappointing the the shape doesn't hold - that squiggly curl looked fun.
You’re good at pot. 👍🏽
Hope they'll turn out well. Merry Xmas to you and your loved ones 🎄
Chaos always looks more authentic ❤❤❤
I really need to find a class that my wife and I can take here locally. I used to really want to make something on a pottery wheel (I still do) but now I seem to be drawn to the shaping after it’s been drying and place it back on the wheel. It’s silly but I could see designing my own tools and even using tools that are for other crafting hobbies. I could actually see using some leather working tools to create patterns and design details on a piece. Then there’s some different woodworking tools like card scrapers or even small hand planes/ violin planes and even using a couple lathe tools. I guess I would probably need to own my own wheel so I could get creative… either that or make friends with someone who would be interested in trying the ideas out.
Thank you for sharing this video and Merry Christmas to you too!
One other idea you could try is using very fine metal wires and wrap them in the sharp angles of your pot might be overwhelming in term of contrast but I think it might be worth a try
Maybe a fun idea would be to find a way to insert the copper below your maker's mark? It might fire to look like a wax seal or similar. Plus give interest/asymmetry to the base.
I cut Manganese Bronze at work last week. I really thought about keeping some of the shavings but decided not to. Maybe next time
If this works well, it would be a very interesting element to have a line of the dots down the outside of a vessel, just like you've done with the ridge of clay on one vessel you showed. Making that line with a series of red spots could be very interstitial.
As an experiment, for one bowl/pot alone, you could try to line up a few more dots to make a line.
What is lime popping, florian?
Lime popping is when there's a plaster contaminate in the clay, if you don't catch it, as the clay is bisque fired and then glaze fired, it expands and creates a small crater in the surface, popping away any glaze that's over it. Dreadfully annoying!
@ thank you! 🌸
I really love this idea
Fantastic video and idea 🤩
Happy to see you still approve your process. You rest, you rust or more likely dry out to bone dry :D
I wonder if some thin copper wire would look nice? i was just messing with the coils on some rusted pickups that were gonna be trashed anyways. just on the rim or something like that to make a thin strip of red. but maybe it would be difficult to position straight enough to get something that looks clean and intentional.
i wonder if you could use a thin bronze wire pushed all the way through and trimmed on the inside and outside with flush cutters? might be cool if you end up with one of those red blobs which matches exactly on the inside and outside of the same spot?
I wonder if it would be possible to use the bronze in the line on one of your lined vessels? I'd be very interested to see how that would look!
Try Using tweezers to handle the bronze filaments. Better Control and handling, and placement.
Hi Thanks for the nice content! Would you like to do a video about ergonomics on pottery making? Like how to avoid back pain 😅
What would bronze filings look like in cone 6 firing electric kiln?
Merry Christmas / Happy Holiday :D
9:00 Ooh, tell us more! 😂😂
I wonder how you'd like making a triangle by having one side be a pair of dots.
"if you are taking time off over the holidays" Aren't you?
I never quite switch off, I've made all my videos/reels for the holidays but I'm still going to manually post them all!
Why aren’t you on Glazy? I’ve looked everywhere for a hint on your glaze recipes
9:00 oh my 😅
Long ago the definition of art was brought to the attention of the US supreme court (over a Brancusi sculpture )and it was decided that INTENTION was the definition. For example a plumber might make a very artistic combination of twists and turns of pipes but if it was not done with intention to created art then it was not art.
A court's definition of what is copyrightable is definitely not relevant to the discussion in this video ;)
@@ska042 Copyright? Sorry I've lost what you mean.
I’m thinking your love of beveled edges might interest you in braised daikon radish cooking
I love your work, ideas and open creativity. Adding metallics is superb however warn idiots not to put in the microwave please.
i just wanna see the result aah
"I'm a *_sucker_* for tall feet"
-Florian Gadsby, 2024
I don't know why I say certain things sometimes...
Maybe spontaneous intention, like you intended to do it but was spontaneous about where.
Merci.
Uhm... They're brass.
I was away......................... december things........................... you know.
Good
I enjoy your videos Florian but don't make yourself ill or burn yourself ill just to make a video. For me fewer videos is better than non. God bless you.
9:00 so you're a foot person. Good to know ... I guess?
I'm sure astrology isn't a real thing (at least how people perceive it) but I would almost bet real money that you've got to be a Virgo. 😅
You'd have won that bet!
@@floriangadsby I...what...seriously? Wow, that's pretty wild. I made that comment because my partner and I, both Virgos, have similar habits like analyzing and trying to intentionally recreate spontaneous results.
At any rate, I can hardly wait to see these pieces fired. Green + red seems like one of the rarer complementary color combos to see used. Possibly because at higher saturation the colors just read as "Christmas". But I really love how the rich red pops against the relatively muted greens in the bronze inclusion pieces you've shard so far!
10:38 Debian!
is that Debian?
Oh no.. I get the idea behind.. but it's to intentional 😒
You are the Mr Rogers of pottery.