Absolutely shocking and terrifying. My team summited Ben Nevis only 48 hours before this event! We caught the summit storm at the peak but everyone descended back down successfully.
"6 deaths a year". Can you quote anyone besides Alan Arnette? He is a US blogger climber not an actual UK agency. And further, that number does not hold up for more than a second before becoming, "several" per year. Granted, I am doing a quick search from my old phone but I queried "Ben Nevis fatalities". Anyway. Seems to me it would be closed to the public if so. I also am seeing search results about "you can take your kids just mind the weather." I just don't like when I dig into a statement like that and find immediately it is a quote from a blogger not anything official, and then unable to find an official statement corroborating. Are there ever more than 6? Ever less than 6? Always 6? Do staff push people off to meet the required 6?? (Now poking fun). If I get on laptop later and remember this I will search again for anything real about numbers of deaths per year on Ben Nevis.
I would like to believe "several deaths in all" instead of "several deaths a year". 6 deaths a year is an average. There's a research report published by TOG24 last year (2022) on the dangerous mountains in UK and they mention 6 deaths a year as an average in Ben Nevis. I believe their data is sourced from UK Transport department.
hi, again! So, I got onto my laptop which is much easier to do queries and read articles and go into chat rooms and found a lot of deaths on ben nevis. I was surprised, truthfully! (I'm in California, also, tho I have been to the UK twice, and once to the Lake District but never to Scotland.. though I have read all the Hamish Macbeth books hee hee...And I'm an avid reader/follower of high atlitude mountaineering stuff) Seems that in some years there have been many!! In 2008 there were 20 or so. However, based on what I could find, there is no centralized directory of fatalities like there is for other mountains. So the best answer would be that there are 'several' deaths per year, sometimes 'many'. I think I have to confront my prejudice that all mountains on that island would be pretty tame. You hear about the wild highlands of Scottland and you know it can snow but you don't really expect there to be any mountains that routinely kill people. Colour me a bit enlightened. cheers.
You are correct that some years there were more deaths compared other years. Unfortunately couldn’t find any official page for the same. Hence would rely on some research report.
@@rhobot75 The reason that UK Mountains and particularly in Scotland must be respected is not height, but the climate. The change in weather there is rapid and often catches out experienced climbers who are used to Mainland European Mountains such as The Alps. You can be engulfed in a snowstorm, 90mph plus winds and visibility of under 5 yards, within 15 minutes of calm weather and sunshine. I believe this is all due to how far North the UK is. eg. Glasgow is further north than Moscow!!
Another English "expert" dies on the Ben. No such thing as a dangerous mountain , just dangerous Englishers claiming to be mountaineering instructors after a handful of trips to the hills.
My teacher 😭 really lovely man
My son is at the school he worked, sad loss, thoughts with his family 😢
Absolutely shocking and terrifying. My team summited Ben Nevis only 48 hours before this event! We caught the summit storm at the peak but everyone descended back down successfully.
I knew the victim. Great man and his death will be felt acutely by the kids at the school where he worked.
"6 deaths a year". Can you quote anyone besides Alan Arnette? He is a US blogger climber not an actual UK agency. And further, that number does not hold up for more than a second before becoming, "several" per year. Granted, I am doing a quick search from my old phone but I queried "Ben Nevis fatalities". Anyway. Seems to me it would be closed to the public if so. I also am seeing search results about "you can take your kids just mind the weather."
I just don't like when I dig into a statement like that and find immediately it is a quote from a blogger not anything official, and then unable to find an official statement corroborating. Are there ever more than 6? Ever less than 6? Always 6? Do staff push people off to meet the required 6?? (Now poking fun).
If I get on laptop later and remember this I will search again for anything real about numbers of deaths per year on Ben Nevis.
I would like to believe "several deaths in all" instead of "several deaths a year". 6 deaths a year is an average. There's a research report published by TOG24 last year (2022) on the dangerous mountains in UK and they mention 6 deaths a year as an average in Ben Nevis. I believe their data is sourced from UK Transport department.
www.tog24.com/blogs/journal/revealed-the-world-s-most-dangerous-mountains
hi, again! So, I got onto my laptop which is much easier to do queries and read articles and go into chat rooms and found a lot of deaths on ben nevis. I was surprised, truthfully! (I'm in California, also, tho I have been to the UK twice, and once to the Lake District but never to Scotland.. though I have read all the Hamish Macbeth books hee hee...And I'm an avid reader/follower of high atlitude mountaineering stuff) Seems that in some years there have been many!! In 2008 there were 20 or so. However, based on what I could find, there is no centralized directory of fatalities like there is for other mountains. So the best answer would be that there are 'several' deaths per year, sometimes 'many'. I think I have to confront my prejudice that all mountains on that island would be pretty tame. You hear about the wild highlands of Scottland and you know it can snow but you don't really expect there to be any mountains that routinely kill people. Colour me a bit enlightened. cheers.
You are correct that some years there were more deaths compared other years. Unfortunately couldn’t find any official page for the same. Hence would rely on some research report.
@@rhobot75 The reason that UK Mountains and particularly in Scotland must be respected is not height, but the climate. The change in weather there is rapid and often catches out experienced climbers who are used to Mainland European Mountains such as The Alps. You can be engulfed in a snowstorm, 90mph plus winds and visibility of under 5 yards, within 15 minutes of calm weather and sunshine. I believe this is all due to how far North the UK is. eg. Glasgow is further north than Moscow!!
"Promosm"
Another English "expert" dies on the Ben. No such thing as a dangerous mountain , just dangerous Englishers claiming to be mountaineering instructors after a handful of trips to the hills.
The climber in question was a veteran of incredible experience and a pillar of the climbing community. Such a sad loss.
What is an Englisher? If you’re going to speak English you may as well speak English properly