I appreciate the numbers. I remember key farming 5 an hour . We had specific gear for our runs that were account bound . I miss those days . I suggest to players to unlock, buy or make all the skins. That are 10 gold or less . That way when you get the unlock wardrobes . You get better quality skins. Thank you for this
Lol same! I never buy game currency or loot boxes out of principle. I don't key farm either. Sure, it's fun to open the occasional box when you happen to stumble on a key, but I play the game for other reasons.
Yeah. I once did a live opening for my guild. Did 210 keys (before the drop rates were added). I did not get a SINGLE uncommon or greater item the entire time. Made about 150 gold total from the keys and the junk.
Honestly I've only ever seen them as a way to get black lion tickets. I only buy keys to burn off amounts of gems here and there. I'd say the anet lootbox is pretty harmless and very optional
If you don't know that BL chest are a scam than you know now :) There's a reason why its prohibited in Belgium (gov) so we're not able to buy keys, its gambling. (vpn solution is you really want)
These are the only loot boxes I buy. I do it because I want to support the devs and I enjoy a bit of gambling. I don’t go crazy, maybe 25 keys a quarter. Only once have I been completely burned (no cosmetic unlock of any kind) but I always suspect any loot box is predatory. I hope they see this and address it
Most of the times I had great drops from BLC were when I opened a single key I dropped by doing map completion. Whenever I tried to buy them in bulks I had the most trash stuff dropped. Don't waste your gem on that crap. The only reasonable reason to buy keys is if you want a specific cosmetic from the statuettes...
Yeah I'm glad statues are there. That's honestly the only reason I'll do it. Plus over time the items cost less statues. I'm also happy we can preview rewards.
By their own admission, they made the most money from selling mount skins by time Living World 4 came out. Which makes it a mystery why they didn't do the same for skiffs and jade bots. Maybe chairs didn't replicate the same success.
Arena net makes plenty of money from their cash shop, what are you talking about? What Anet is notoriously bad at is their marketing, some of the worst.
Players spend far more time on their mounts than they do sitting around so it makes sense. Additionally, mount skins have a higher base price point normally and usually aren’t discounted as much when sales come around
As long as it doesn't say 100%, I tend to stay away from it or get ready to spend at least $100 if I like the item. So far expansions are my biggest purchase in GW2. Great Video BTW
Opened chests regularly until pre EOD and the results were within range of this research. i used to get the featured rare skins like gliders and/or chair within 5-15 keys from saved weekly key farms. Today I used my last 40 keys and didn't even get the featured skins aside from useless dye kits. Double stattuete only proc'd once + a single ticket scrap. I did get an omnomberry node and a glyph but dang the usual useful drops feels so scarce now.
First of all, great data analysis and presentation of it! I hope this video grabs some attention. I always had the feeling something is off with that percentages and it's great to see actual proof! Still feel like Anet is milking their customers at the correct spot here. Anets fair buy-once-approach doesn't generate long term income, what they need for constant development. But people who are willing to spend money on skins, which don't effect the gameplay, do generate that long term income - without much impact on the game's experience. That's a good thing imo (although they should be more transparent about it, I totally agree with your points).
I mostly so batch openings of chests when keys go on sale to get the utility items like revive orbs and primers. Anything I get beyond that is just bonus to usually be turned into gold. I have noticed though, that the exclusives drop for me much more frequently and with less keys since they moved them to the statuette store. Pretty much the only time I’ve had to buy an exclusive was when I was away from the game for a few months
I was first worried when they didn't make statuettes a guaranteed second drop ever again. Then I noticed I would consistently get the newer exclusive before the older one. The prices of the skiff skin and jadebot makes sense as it is a game feature reskin with loads of unique assets. It is still worrying that they are escalating. I worry for the new sword/chair/glider. This past year I have only acquired 1 exclusive from keys and less than 5 other uncommon drops. These drop rates are similar to the pattern of stealth nerfs to general drops that happened during the shift to make unidentified gear game wide and then removing Magic Find from them shortly after.
Saying "RNG", is hiding a lot of potential differences in probability. It's like saying that dying while hang gliding and dying while playing computer games are both Random, that's what an activity is. When in reality, one is 178,000 times more likely (1 in 560 vs 1 in 100,000,000). Details matter. Thank you kindly.
Black lion chest, your rate of getting anything worthwhile is WELL KNOWN to be almost infinitesimally small. Nice of you to support the game tho, kudos for that.
I appreciate all the work that went into this. I guess I just don't see where the misleading part is, as far as exclusive skins are anyway. According to your data, even with the mount skin in the loot table the percentage is much higher than 3%?
In the case of the Exclusives, you could argue that Anet is "underpromising and overdelivering". However, probability is a zero sum game, if one thing is under reported, another is over-reported. - I showed in the video that the Super rare category is over-reported beyond margin of error. - Also, if you try to make the official disclaimers add up to 100%, you have to assume the rare drops lean heavily to the high end of the 0.3-2.0% range, which would also be over-reported. This is one reason why I feel ANY inaccuracy in the droprates is problematic. There are also psychological factors in making players feel "luckier" than reported rates, something that game devs have been known to do with things like crit-rate, but becomes sketchier when money is involved.
Jade Bots in general need more relevancy, they should have way more skins that are available and those skins should be half the price of a Mount Skin at that being how small they are. Aside from Fishing and Mounts, the other features introduced in prior Expansions aren't particularly relevant outside of their Expansions which is a shame because Jade Bots, Skiffs, Gliding and Bounties should be implemented in the other maps. Rifts they've added to Janthir which is neat but that to I think could use some more spread than the few maps in Core Tyria that has them. All in all that's what would bring more reason to make more skins and reduce the price as more players would be choosing and buying them because I'm not spending however much it was to get a floating cat Jade Bot Skin when I hardly use the thing.
I'm personally angry that there hasnt been a new double statuette in the "seasonal spot" it seems for over a year. I have 200 keys that I have been holding for along time.
For loot boxes, I'd like to at least give some credit to GW2, these ones are much more tame and available to people than others. To start, you can reasonably get keys for free, from leveling quests (which you can do weekly) and some expansion quest rewards, which is a large change form many others where the ability to try your chances is either limited to pitiful drops from events or locked completely behind a paywall. For every chest, you get at least some currency which you can stack to buy specific Black Lion Chest items, which is also much better than almost all other loot boxes where you can't even have a guarantee that you'll EVER get a specific drop. The common pool is full of either usable items or crafting materials that are unreliable to get (might/magic trophies), which means at least you can get some use out of bad rolls unlike other loot boxes where the commons are all just bad skins. As much as I dislike loot boxes, I'll give them these ones. No loot box is ever going to be a "good" thing, but for a lootpool of (for the most part) one-off cosmetics and some super expensive usable items, the problems with this are pretty tame. I'll give you the numbers, though. Don't lie about numbers. Shouldn't have to say it, but last I checked lying is bad.
ill never blame anyone for using systems that exist in a game, i will always blame out of touch greedy devs and publishers for creating a disease in any form, however. people blaming folks for falling into predatory traps are just as bad as the traps being placed, and their originators. also, Infusions are overpriced garbage.
This is true! My estimation was based on repeatable methods such as completing 3-4 maps or buying gems after a goldfarm, and giving a round number for viewers unfamiliar with GW2.
Your mic sounds a bit tinny. I am no audio engineer, but i recon an equalizer could boost the sound quality somewhat, by filtering out some dominant frequencies and amplifying others. Great video anyways, thanks for all the research.
Someone with more know-how than me could probably clean up the recording from my wireless headset mic, but for future vids, I bought a better desk mic XD. Thanks for the feedback and kind words!
Very nice all this data, but bottom line is it's your own choice to gamble. Also I think some accounts are unlucky and maybe you should look into that. I've been gambling ecto for a month and I notice on 2 accounts I seem to get 10-20 x in a row 25gold and 25 ecto. So a huge loss. Other accounts I don't get that unlucky. Anyway, just don't gamble.
Opened probably 400 chest in my 4 years playing, never bought a single key off the store. They're looking for whales to buy keys, watched a video not long ago on mobile game whales.
the game gives you 100 BLC keys every year? amazing. I get dropped maybe one over the course of a year and maybe a handful for completing 20 maps or so. on top of that one could do the weekly lv10 personal story farm key run. do you do that for lv 30 and lv 60 too or how do you get to 100 keys/year?
@@embreis2257if you do the 1 weekly key run each week thats 52 keys alone. With some random map completion and pushing more levels to get the lvl 40 key sometimes is pretty possible to get even more a year.
and that why ppl dont open black lion chests. Simple as that xD played this game for years, neever need open this box for nothing xD only open when u get a free key GG
it's RNG man we all know it's rigged in every game it's really not a big deal simple solution is don't buy BLK I've never bought keys with money only trading gold for gems and Ive got a permanent hair contract and bank tab.
Why did you open $50k for looboxes instead of just buying $200 worth of gemstones to gold to buy them from the trading place instead? xD (Edit) Event he "exclusive" Black Lion Exclusives only hole that status for two Black Lion Updates. Afterwards you can purchase them for Statuettes. (Actually... that Demon Mask is probably going to burn my back supply of Statuettes. I normally only open when I get double Statuettes, and they haven't done that for a while so I'm on short supply. xD) I highly doubt anyone actually buys keys outside of gems they gotten from giveaways. Every single key that I've opened has been given to me for 0 gems, has been given to me through giveaways, or how 99.99% of them I've gotten came from, key farming on a new character. xD
Because he's a scientist and if you weren't listening he had help from thousands of other people record a big portion of the data. All that effort so that people like you can think twice before buying loot boxes, you should be grateful tbh
It's funny to see you all defending the company that's willing to advertise new powerful weapons that come with the new expansion but then Nerf it a month literally ripping you off and messing with the attributes that made you want to buy the product in the first place. A company that's willing to put silvers along with platinums in PvP making losing some matches literally unavoidable. As well as shady practices like making new traits are specializations overpowered at lunch so people would want to buy them
TLDR: Lootboxes are bad. Yea, we've known that for years. I'm so sorry you wasted 50k on this, it's really really a waste of money my dude. You could have bought so many other things with 50k over spending on a system everyone knows and has been telling each other it's bad for years.
He didn't spend any money. It's data based on free keys collected by many players, which would cost that amount if bought from the gemstore. I love people who comment without watching the video (or too incompetent to comprehend information). Also the point isn't that lootboxes are bad. It's about lootboxes being intransparent while mimicking transparency. Based on which skins you want, they are sometimes better than the percentages shown in the preview.
Bro, first of all, no one told you to do this, and second, GW/ArenaNet doesn't control your will. You spent $50 grand on keys and expect a 100% chance of getting a super rare item that only has a 0.3% probability. "The problem is you not the game"
if you watched the clip you'd know he didn't do any of this. a number of players did 'map completion' with beta characters and collected data on the BLC drop chances. these players relayed their data back to him.
I dont get it. You are whing about unfair Lootboxes? Its still one of the best if not the best Solution in this business!!!!? btw i got 1 Superrare and i never buy any keys ...
I feel guild wars monetization is kind of predatory. If you play f2p they lock you out of mounts all elite specializations, other weapons, mastery's, and even auction house. Games need to make money to operate that is fine but why force the player into paying just to have a mount or a different weapon? I have never seen a game do that before. I don't really enjoy the story in the game so why force me into playing it just so i can get standard stuff you unlock in other games simplying by leveling to X level.
The monetization is bad, but not for those reasons, you make it sound like those things are in the Gem Store and you have to buy each separately, but you get all those in a nice, cheap expansion pack, $30 bucks and you get 3-4 maps with a lot of content to do, 9 Elite Specs, 9 Weapons, 15-20 Masteries, lots of achievements, new skins, items, and the "unique feature" of that specific expansion on top of that (mounts, gliders, fishing, etc), that's a pretty good deal in my opinion, it can get pricier depending on where you live (xpacks are $170 in my country, kinda expensive tbh, and that's with regional pricing already aplied), but that's not Anet's fault so there's not much they can do. The problem with the monetization lies in the Gem Store, 99% of the mount and glider skins are there, (Wizard's Vault was a step in the right direction, but it will take a while to "catch up), the whole Build Templates fiasco, etc, at least you can convert in game gold to gems, but some stuff is still bad. Overall the model is pretty good, base game is free, there's no sub, you only need to buy expansions and qol stuff if you want.
@@Geronmy That doesn't answer why they paywall you out of weapons even if you have payed for other expansions. Or why they pay wall you out of the most basic form of travel in a game. Doesn't make sense to force players into doing story for basic forms of travel.
@@CorwynGC yeah but wow is overall a better game. 10x the amount of content. A flushed out end game. Within those 2 months of spending 30 you can play through all the game and gear out and be done with the content if you play regularly. But lets take a game similar to gw2 like albion online. Same kind of weapon based system mounts cost in game currency weapons cost in game currency no story required to unlock full content. Elder scroll online works similarly to gw2 weapon based system. Except you don't need expansions to use different weapons or mounts. Buy one expansion you get access to every previous expansion. Yeah they offer eso plus If you want more story content but it is not required.
I appreciate the numbers. I remember key farming 5 an hour . We had specific gear for our runs that were account bound . I miss those days . I suggest to players to unlock, buy or make all the skins. That are 10 gold or less . That way when you get the unlock wardrobes . You get better quality skins. Thank you for this
Played since the game came out. Never bought a key. Never turned gems into gold. Idk why I even watched this, honestly.
Lol same! I never buy game currency or loot boxes out of principle. I don't key farm either. Sure, it's fun to open the occasional box when you happen to stumble on a key, but I play the game for other reasons.
no idea what this dude is talking about I swear we play different games lmao
A subconscious desire to check then.
I don't bother with Black Lion Chests. They NEVER have anything worthwhile.
The most I do is the weekly lvl 10 key. (when I feel like it)
Yeah. I once did a live opening for my guild. Did 210 keys (before the drop rates were added). I did not get a SINGLE uncommon or greater item the entire time. Made about 150 gold total from the keys and the junk.
Honestly I've only ever seen them as a way to get black lion tickets. I only buy keys to burn off amounts of gems here and there.
I'd say the anet lootbox is pretty harmless and very optional
Infinite extractor
Then again i got one key from map explo in dragonfall.used it immediatly And popped a bank contract
If you don't know that BL chest are a scam than you know now :)
There's a reason why its prohibited in Belgium (gov) so we're not able to buy keys, its gambling. (vpn solution is you really want)
Is it only in Belgium where you can't buy them?
pastoor 😂😂😂😂
Lesson: Don't gamble. Easy.
Echo gambling teaches this lesson well
These are the only loot boxes I buy. I do it because I want to support the devs and I enjoy a bit of gambling. I don’t go crazy, maybe 25 keys a quarter. Only once have I been completely burned (no cosmetic unlock of any kind) but I always suspect any loot box is predatory. I hope they see this and address it
this needs to be heared, love gw2 but i cant ignore this, ty for the information, suscribed
Most of the times I had great drops from BLC were when I opened a single key I dropped by doing map completion. Whenever I tried to buy them in bulks I had the most trash stuff dropped. Don't waste your gem on that crap. The only reasonable reason to buy keys is if you want a specific cosmetic from the statuettes...
Yeah I'm glad statues are there. That's honestly the only reason I'll do it. Plus over time the items cost less statues. I'm also happy we can preview rewards.
God I hope they make a lot of bucks this way. Anet sits on a really cool game and is notoriously bad at making money from it.
By their own admission, they made the most money from selling mount skins by time Living World 4 came out. Which makes it a mystery why they didn't do the same for skiffs and jade bots. Maybe chairs didn't replicate the same success.
@@elocfreidon we all love the chairs but yeah, visually in the population you can see they didn't overly sell.
Arena net makes plenty of money from their cash shop, what are you talking about? What Anet is notoriously bad at is their marketing, some of the worst.
Players spend far more time on their mounts than they do sitting around so it makes sense. Additionally, mount skins have a higher base price point normally and usually aren’t discounted as much when sales come around
As long as it doesn't say 100%, I tend to stay away from it or get ready to spend at least $100 if I like the item.
So far expansions are my biggest purchase in GW2.
Great Video BTW
I thought you were schaffrillas and I was like HOLY DAMN SCHAFFRILLAS PLAYS GUILD WARS 2?!
Opened chests regularly until pre EOD and the results were within range of this research. i used to get the featured rare skins like gliders and/or chair within 5-15 keys from saved weekly key farms.
Today I used my last 40 keys and didn't even get the featured skins aside from useless dye kits. Double stattuete only proc'd once + a single ticket scrap. I did get an omnomberry node and a glyph but dang the usual useful drops feels so scarce now.
This is an excellent video covering BLCs. I personally dont purchase keys.
First of all, great data analysis and presentation of it! I hope this video grabs some attention.
I always had the feeling something is off with that percentages and it's great to see actual proof!
Still feel like Anet is milking their customers at the correct spot here. Anets fair buy-once-approach doesn't generate long term income, what they need for constant development. But people who are willing to spend money on skins, which don't effect the gameplay, do generate that long term income - without much impact on the game's experience.
That's a good thing imo (although they should be more transparent about it, I totally agree with your points).
I get my free black lion key each week and save them up til there is an item i want. Ive never bought a key yet
I'm sure it's what the vast majority do, anything super amazing I will have the statues saved up to buy when it hits the vendor.
already spent 100$ and an other time about 70$ to get exclusives but didn't... nowadays I only go for the statuettes and just ignore my chests drops.
Well... that explains the slow down in lvl 10 farming for home instance items with statuettes...
I mostly so batch openings of chests when keys go on sale to get the utility items like revive orbs and primers. Anything I get beyond that is just bonus to usually be turned into gold.
I have noticed though, that the exclusives drop for me much more frequently and with less keys since they moved them to the statuette store. Pretty much the only time I’ve had to buy an exclusive was when I was away from the game for a few months
I was first worried when they didn't make statuettes a guaranteed second drop ever again. Then I noticed I would consistently get the newer exclusive before the older one.
The prices of the skiff skin and jadebot makes sense as it is a game feature reskin with loads of unique assets. It is still worrying that they are escalating. I worry for the new sword/chair/glider.
This past year I have only acquired 1 exclusive from keys and less than 5 other uncommon drops. These drop rates are similar to the pattern of stealth nerfs to general drops that happened during the shift to make unidentified gear game wide and then removing Magic Find from them shortly after.
so basicly its RNG no matter what, thats what a loot box is.
Saying "RNG", is hiding a lot of potential differences in probability. It's like saying that dying while hang gliding and dying while playing computer games are both Random, that's what an activity is. When in reality, one is 178,000 times more likely (1 in 560 vs 1 in 100,000,000). Details matter.
Thank you kindly.
Statistics and probability play a huge role on 'RNG' boxes. It's not that simple
Black lion chest, your rate of getting anything worthwhile is WELL KNOWN to be almost infinitesimally small. Nice of you to support the game tho, kudos for that.
I appreciate all the work that went into this. I guess I just don't see where the misleading part is, as far as exclusive skins are anyway. According to your data, even with the mount skin in the loot table the percentage is much higher than 3%?
In the case of the Exclusives, you could argue that Anet is "underpromising and overdelivering". However, probability is a zero sum game, if one thing is under reported, another is over-reported.
- I showed in the video that the Super rare category is over-reported beyond margin of error.
- Also, if you try to make the official disclaimers add up to 100%, you have to assume the rare drops lean heavily to the high end of the 0.3-2.0% range, which would also be over-reported.
This is one reason why I feel ANY inaccuracy in the droprates is problematic. There are also psychological factors in making players feel "luckier" than reported rates, something that game devs have been known to do with things like crit-rate, but becomes sketchier when money is involved.
This guy sounds really hot. Also, he knows what he is talking about.
The actual video starts at 12:30
Well I never bought the keys but you get some keys ingame here and there
Jade Bots in general need more relevancy, they should have way more skins that are available and those skins should be half the price of a Mount Skin at that being how small they are. Aside from Fishing and Mounts, the other features introduced in prior Expansions aren't particularly relevant outside of their Expansions which is a shame because Jade Bots, Skiffs, Gliding and Bounties should be implemented in the other maps. Rifts they've added to Janthir which is neat but that to I think could use some more spread than the few maps in Core Tyria that has them. All in all that's what would bring more reason to make more skins and reduce the price as more players would be choosing and buying them because I'm not spending however much it was to get a floating cat Jade Bot Skin when I hardly use the thing.
I'm personally angry that there hasnt been a new double statuette in the "seasonal spot" it seems for over a year. I have 200 keys that I have been holding for along time.
Can't see the angry comments through my exclusive demon mask (don't ask how many keys I used)
I never knew how lucky i am watching this lmao
Ive got better stuff from free and dropped keys than the bought ones. Every other gem key was for getting statues.
For loot boxes, I'd like to at least give some credit to GW2, these ones are much more tame and available to people than others. To start, you can reasonably get keys for free, from leveling quests (which you can do weekly) and some expansion quest rewards, which is a large change form many others where the ability to try your chances is either limited to pitiful drops from events or locked completely behind a paywall. For every chest, you get at least some currency which you can stack to buy specific Black Lion Chest items, which is also much better than almost all other loot boxes where you can't even have a guarantee that you'll EVER get a specific drop. The common pool is full of either usable items or crafting materials that are unreliable to get (might/magic trophies), which means at least you can get some use out of bad rolls unlike other loot boxes where the commons are all just bad skins.
As much as I dislike loot boxes, I'll give them these ones. No loot box is ever going to be a "good" thing, but for a lootpool of (for the most part) one-off cosmetics and some super expensive usable items, the problems with this are pretty tame. I'll give you the numbers, though. Don't lie about numbers. Shouldn't have to say it, but last I checked lying is bad.
ill never blame anyone for using systems that exist in a game, i will always blame out of touch greedy devs and publishers for creating a disease in any form, however. people blaming folks for falling into predatory traps are just as bad as the traps being placed, and their originators.
also, Infusions are overpriced garbage.
I’ve never looted an exclusive wardrobe unlock.
I have one and didn't event know it was one until now lol
Dont gable ? IMPOSIBLE
I got a party skiff from a chest I randomly opened. Got a few skins. usually just junk.
One of the lucky got skysteel pack from 3-5 keys i had laying around in the bank
It only takes a max of 15 minutes to get 1 BL Key using the weekly key farm.
This is true! My estimation was based on repeatable methods such as completing 3-4 maps or buying gems after a goldfarm, and giving a round number for viewers unfamiliar with GW2.
Your mic sounds a bit tinny. I am no audio engineer, but i recon an equalizer could boost the sound quality somewhat, by filtering out some dominant frequencies and amplifying others. Great video anyways, thanks for all the research.
Someone with more know-how than me could probably clean up the recording from my wireless headset mic, but for future vids, I bought a better desk mic XD. Thanks for the feedback and kind words!
Took me three stacks of 25 keys to get that shinysword did they change drop rate to be harder ?
I got a bunch of Keys and chests but never used them.
will this be another maplestory lootbox story
Probably not, KR has much stricter regulations than NA/EU regions, and I'm not a lawyer XD
I got 2 contracts in under 200 Keys, hair and Bank lol
Poor rich kids
I don't get drops at all on my account so why would I ever buy keys ,lol. 11 years in game. The only precursors I have ever gotten are ones I forged.
Imagine being mad about rng on a gacha system where you can farm and get almost everything for free just playing the game. LOL
interesting video, since launch i have bought exactly 0 keys tho so whatever. if u buy keys.. get scammed by yourself i guess
Very nice all this data, but bottom line is it's your own choice to gamble. Also I think some accounts are unlucky and maybe you should look into that. I've been gambling ecto for a month and I notice on 2 accounts I seem to get 10-20 x in a row 25gold and 25 ecto. So a huge loss. Other accounts I don't get that unlucky. Anyway, just don't gamble.
ive opened maybe 150 chests in my 12 years of playing and it dropped permanent tp express two times xDD
What is your luck, friend?!
They also use the loot boxes to make low level maps and story look populated for the first 4 guaranteed keys and some of the easy map keys.
I'm okay with people gambling for rare cosmetics
Yes, it is a fraud. I've seen it for myself. A thousand times better to spend that gold or gems on upgrading the account directly.
Opened probably 400 chest in my 4 years playing, never bought a single key off the store.
They're looking for whales to buy keys, watched a video not long ago on mobile game whales.
the game gives you 100 BLC keys every year? amazing. I get dropped maybe one over the course of a year and maybe a handful for completing 20 maps or so. on top of that one could do the weekly lv10 personal story farm key run. do you do that for lv 30 and lv 60 too or how do you get to 100 keys/year?
@@embreis2257if you do the 1 weekly key run each week thats 52 keys alone. With some random map completion and pushing more levels to get the lvl 40 key sometimes is pretty possible to get even more a year.
and that why ppl dont open black lion chests. Simple as that xD
played this game for years, neever need open this box for nothing xD
only open when u get a free key GG
Hi schaffr- hmmm 🧐
Sigh... thanks anet....
it's RNG man we all know it's rigged in every game it's really not a big deal simple solution is don't buy BLK I've never bought keys with money only trading gold for gems and Ive got a permanent hair contract and bank tab.
When you've never played an actual predatory game like ESO, you complain about stuff like this lol
Why did you open $50k for looboxes instead of just buying $200 worth of gemstones to gold to buy them from the trading place instead? xD
(Edit) Event he "exclusive" Black Lion Exclusives only hole that status for two Black Lion Updates. Afterwards you can purchase them for Statuettes. (Actually... that Demon Mask is probably going to burn my back supply of Statuettes. I normally only open when I get double Statuettes, and they haven't done that for a while so I'm on short supply. xD)
I highly doubt anyone actually buys keys outside of gems they gotten from giveaways. Every single key that I've opened has been given to me for 0 gems, has been given to me through giveaways, or how 99.99% of them I've gotten came from, key farming on a new character. xD
I buy keys in bulk when they’re on sale so I don’t have to do a key farm that accumulates keys at a slower rate than I get chests
Because he's a scientist and if you weren't listening he had help from thousands of other people record a big portion of the data. All that effort so that people like you can think twice before buying loot boxes, you should be grateful tbh
It's funny to see you all defending the company that's willing to advertise new powerful weapons that come with the new expansion but then Nerf it a month literally ripping you off and messing with the attributes that made you want to buy the product in the first place. A company that's willing to put silvers along with platinums in PvP making losing some matches literally unavoidable. As well as shady practices like making new traits are specializations overpowered at lunch so people would want to buy them
spend 50k on a new mic bro
I've gotten a lot of great loot from Trading chests. Sorry to see so many salty players. Sour grapes I guess.
Who cares.. are you an addict don’t gamble. Just buy them
lol oh yeah 8000IQ dude, you just solved gambling addiction worldwide /s
GTFO
@@murdendev u exposed how gambling works u are very smart fr fr
Just buy them? The items that can only be acquired through loot boxes?
TLDR: Lootboxes are bad.
Yea, we've known that for years. I'm so sorry you wasted 50k on this, it's really really a waste of money my dude. You could have bought so many other things with 50k over spending on a system everyone knows and has been telling each other it's bad for years.
He didn't spend any money. It's data based on free keys collected by many players, which would cost that amount if bought from the gemstore.
I love people who comment without watching the video (or too incompetent to comprehend information).
Also the point isn't that lootboxes are bad. It's about lootboxes being intransparent while mimicking transparency. Based on which skins you want, they are sometimes better than the percentages shown in the preview.
bro didnt even watch the video lmao
So much complaining - if you don't like it, don't use it. The transparency crisis that seems to bother people... get over it.
Bro, first of all, no one told you to do this, and second, GW/ArenaNet doesn't control your will. You spent $50 grand on keys and expect a 100% chance of getting a super rare item that only has a 0.3% probability. "The problem is you not the game"
if you watched the clip you'd know he didn't do any of this. a number of players did 'map completion' with beta characters and collected data on the BLC drop chances. these players relayed their data back to him.
I dont get it. You are whing about unfair Lootboxes?
Its still one of the best if not the best Solution in this business!!!!?
btw i got 1 Superrare and i never buy any keys ...
I feel guild wars monetization is kind of predatory. If you play f2p they lock you out of mounts all elite specializations, other weapons, mastery's, and even auction house. Games need to make money to operate that is fine but why force the player into paying just to have a mount or a different weapon? I have never seen a game do that before. I don't really enjoy the story in the game so why force me into playing it just so i can get standard stuff you unlock in other games simplying by leveling to X level.
Because the game is not free to play, that is a free trial.
The monetization is bad, but not for those reasons, you make it sound like those things are in the Gem Store and you have to buy each separately, but you get all those in a nice, cheap expansion pack, $30 bucks and you get 3-4 maps with a lot of content to do, 9 Elite Specs, 9 Weapons, 15-20 Masteries, lots of achievements, new skins, items, and the "unique feature" of that specific expansion on top of that (mounts, gliders, fishing, etc), that's a pretty good deal in my opinion, it can get pricier depending on where you live (xpacks are $170 in my country, kinda expensive tbh, and that's with regional pricing already aplied), but that's not Anet's fault so there's not much they can do.
The problem with the monetization lies in the Gem Store, 99% of the mount and glider skins are there, (Wizard's Vault was a step in the right direction, but it will take a while to "catch up), the whole Build Templates fiasco, etc, at least you can convert in game gold to gems, but some stuff is still bad.
Overall the model is pretty good, base game is free, there's no sub, you only need to buy expansions and qol stuff if you want.
@@Geronmy That doesn't answer why they paywall you out of weapons even if you have payed for other expansions. Or why they pay wall you out of the most basic form of travel in a game. Doesn't make sense to force players into doing story for basic forms of travel.
@@guixanyr You can't use a mount in WoW without paying the same $30. Every two months.
Thank you kindly.
@@CorwynGC yeah but wow is overall a better game. 10x the amount of content. A flushed out end game. Within those 2 months of spending 30 you can play through all the game and gear out and be done with the content if you play regularly.
But lets take a game similar to gw2 like albion online. Same kind of weapon based system mounts cost in game currency weapons cost in game currency no story required to unlock full content. Elder scroll online works similarly to gw2 weapon based system. Except you don't need expansions to use different weapons or mounts. Buy one expansion you get access to every previous expansion. Yeah they offer eso plus If you want more story content but it is not required.
even if you got the 5th (potentially good) item every single time they value still isnt there
"Value" is always a question of perception. If people spend money to get that 5th drop, they got their value from the chest.
Can't relate with this one 🫠