2018 Kia Stinger GT 2 AWD Review
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ม.ค. 2018
- The Korean brand that brought us dancing hamsters is now offering something more serious- a driver’s car with a German accent. Is it the real deal or just marketing hype? Tom Voelk drives the twin-turbo V6 AWD GT 2 version to find out.
😃 SUBSCRIBE ► bit.ly/SUB2DRIVEN
TURN ON NOTIFICATIONS BY CLICKING THE “BELL” BUTTON AFTER SUBSCRIBING!
- FOLLOW TOM VOELK AND GET DRIVEN GEAR! -
MY SITE ► tomvoelk.com
TWITTER ► / tomvoelk
- MORE CAR REVIEW VIDEOS! -
Porsche 911 Turbo S ➜ bit.ly/2rYfE2B
2012 Range Rover ➜ • 2012 Range Rover Evoqu...
2015 Land Rover Discovery Sport ➜ • 2015 Land Rover Discov...
2012 Audi A6 ➜ • 2012 Audi A6 3.0 HD Vi...
Dodge Challenger ➜ • 2015 Dodge Challenger ...
2017 Porsche 911 Turbo S ➜ • 2015 Dodge Challenger ...
2017 McLaren 570GT ➜ • 2017 McLaren 570GT Car...
2016 Ferrari 488 GTB ➜ • 2016 Ferrari 488 GTB R...
2016 Lamborghini Huracán LP 580-2 ➜ • 2016 Lamborghini Hurac...
2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet ➜ • 2017 Porsche 911 Carre...
About Tom:
Tom Voelk is an award-winning automotive contributor to The New York Times. His podcast was the first to win an Emmy Award. He also married way out of his league. Now, stop reading this promotional copy bragging about Tom's photography and editing skills and watch a couple episodes. It's much more interesting. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Finally, a automotive journalist who understands that for all the performance, most performance cars NEVER see the track. Enough with all these track tests already. As always, great work Tom.
Well, I think many know that, they just don't talk about it much. And while there is an element of chest thumping in track testing, it definitely has its place. It's good to know how cars perform full out and I wish I had access to a track full time. Maybe that handling potential won't be used in the real world much but you never know when that extra dynamic will help a driver steer out of an accident situation in the real world.
Well this is the best car reviewer in the world....
That's because those cars are worth $100,000. But since stinger is only half that much and can outperform them, people will be going crazy with them. Even if you wreck one, you can get another one. What I hear is that $40k stinger outperformed $90k porche panamera.
Well said. I always wondered about this track stuff.
Nice honest review Kia/Hyundai are getting stronger in recent years
nice unbiased review, especially saying serious buyers should give a test drive.
I've heard alot of people's view of Kia changed after driving the Stinger.
Tom, I really appreciate the effort you and Martin put into your videos. I've been watching them for around 7 years now. Never missed one. I really love them for the beautiful cinematography of the Seattle area and the relaxed style. Keep it up!
+1
And you two are masters of the craft. Keep it up!
Tom I love the videos. I appreciate the real world review with honest opinions. Every time I am looking to watch a car review, I look to see if you've done it first. Keep up the great work!
YES! I was waiting for this. All the Car reviewers I respect seem to like it a lot. The GT2 AWD is currently #1 on my next car list.
The more I learn about it, the more I want it. However, I will wait until the Genesis G70 is released. The G70 will have the same engine, but it will be a more direct competitor to the 3 series, A4, etc., so I'm hoping that the handling will be a big more sporty.
Probably worth waiting for the "refresh". Kia is likely to up the power, add REAL heat extractor vents in hood, door handle lock sensors on all doors & remote start. They've made leaps & bounds to this point already, Great job KIA!!!
That looks like a cool machine. I bet it was fun to drive! Thanks for a great review and the work!
Super review, as always!
Thanks Tom, great review as always!
Just found your channel, great content.
I loved your review!
That part of the tail light wasn't actually an after thought: if you look at the Kia GT concept from 2011, it had that
I thought it looked like an afterthought on the concept as well.
thanks for taking the time a happy new year! great review as always.
Great vid and waiting till the a.m. paid off. Beautiful scenery
Great review, best and realest Stinger review I've seen yet. "Smart buyers will give it a test drive." Also true that many of these performance cars seldom get driven how they were intended to be driven.
Liking this because hangover car reviews deserve.
Great review, I personally like that elongated reflector from the tail lamp, but on stingers that are not red :)
Thank you Martin and Steve for an ace video!!!
Excellent review, I like how you point out that stinger is a practical sport car, not a performance machine
Ooooh..."cog" swaps! That makes much more sense than what I thought I heard.
It is more than a great job and the effort is also enormous no doubt about it! Thanks for the nice video.
The drone footage from over the bridge was beautiful.
Always good and of course entertaining!
Good review. Thanks!
OMG what s review, simply the BEST.
Great review as always
Thank you Tom & Company.
Nice one #KIA love the design of the Stinger GT-2 and Tom keep it up with your good informative vjdeos!
As usual, another great car review! We miss your reviews in the NY Times!
Excellent review as usual
Tom, I love your reviews especially the ones with Evil Twin LOL
sexysagi Don't encourage the Evil Twin. He's trying to conquer the world.
Love the review!
I grew up in the muscle care era, and the idea the KIA can build a car that would make them look average to slow, WOW! I like you adding zero to sixty times into the reports.
Time will tell but this sure looks like a winner for KIA. I've seen a few on the road and it's a head turner in person. I've never been a new car buyer and my last 4 cars have been german but in 2-3 years there's a good chance this will be on the shopping list.
Get it while you can. Probably the last year.
I love this car RWD is really the performer when checking the test figures. If this had a manual transmission option it would be in my garage already
This is the model I was thinking about buying maintenance because I want the Gray with Red Leather and that's only on the GT2. I test drove one this past weekend a RWD model and I loved it. But I think the better buy is to wait a few months and pick up a certified pre owned one. I feel like depreciation on these things is gonna be pretty gnarly.
excellent video as always, there is little to convince me that I won't be trading in my '13 ATS 3.6 for a Stinger GT in about a year once it's been out for a while and the "first model year gremlins" get ironed out for the 2019s
The extra effort you put in your videos (two-man production, a drone) is noticeable, but I wonder just by how much you are beating the new 4,000 hours/12mo requirement...
Glad I was able to find your channel. Had to scroll through 2 pages of stingers to get here. I have subbed for great content.
Well, sorry you had to weed through the chaff and hope it's worth it. Welcome to the best kept secret on TH-cam.
@@DrivenCarReviews Hahaha. No worries at all! It must be youtube! You have more subscribers than some of the ones I passed. A bit odd actually. Some were 4-5k while you have a whopping 81k. I enjoy your style. Will be watching the rest of your content shortly. Keep it up! :)
I really like the looks and power here. I went with the Q50 red sport, but this Kia would likely be very nice as well.Oh, and I really like the hatch. I wish my Q50 had that instead of a trunk.
Tom I just saw a video showing a rear view camera button that's located in between the heated/cooled seat buttons, the person did state it only activates in drive. I suppose your test vehicle didn't have that option installed. Keep up the great reviews.
Mine had rear view, not surround view.
Always awesome!
I just picked up a GT2 last weekend. Did the Mercedes and Jaguar thing for years and had no real problem paying more for quality. They were good cars, but I got tired of paying "premium" prices for scheduled maintenance and insurance. For whatever reason this is either classified as a hatchback or something so my insurance dropped significantly. I also have 10 years of warranty on the powertrain. In terms of ride and performance it is extremely engaging and I know that it doesn't have the most feedback in the steering wheel that there ever was, but I like the way that it handles; it goes where you point it and it feels planted even at speeds where your license is in danger of being revoked. The tech is really good. The responsiveness of the screen and the navigation is better than almost anything else out there. With all that said.....the hatchback was what sealed the deal.
It ticks all the checkmarks.....fun, engaging, responsive, comfortable, and practical and everything seems to be focused on real world use. Could it be more powerful? Sure. Do I feel like I need more power? No. Not even a little bit.
I love your content sir
Good review. I'd love an ATSV but this makes a better compromise as a daily driver with more driver assist features, carrying capacity and better interior than the caddy.
2019 model comes with the 360 camera, wireless charging, rear heated seats, etc etc. this was the 2018 that was reviewed. i think theres even the possbility of getting those things added to the 2018 model year vehicles
keep doing more reviews plssssssss
Canadian version has 360 all around view cam and heated rear seats :) I believe US' atlantica edition is getting it as well.
Just bought one !
The Canadian GT Limited model comes with all the bells and whistles, like surround view camera, free remote starter from your cell phone, rear heated seats, and a few other things that the American top trim didn't get. Moreover, it costs a little more in the US than in Canada, too. I don't quite know why that is, but I'm glad to be living in Quebec so I could get my hands on this superb car at a bargain. Thanks for an honest, real life, review.
I read somewhere that the USA adds a 15% tariff on cars imported from South Korea, so that may explain the difference in price (assuming such is true).
The prestige option pack on the Stinger in the USA (which I have) adds everything that you mentioned, except for the remote starter, which is available as a further option.
Your efforts on such quality reviews are much appreciated! Hopefully the roads were quiet on New Year's Day.
Do you think Kia will sell many Stingers?
Also, any good eats in Portland?
I love Porque No, a Mexican place just north of downtown.
Roads were very quiet.
Can't tell how many Stingers Kia will sell but not as many as they would have 10 years ago. People want crossovers these days. Still, I know one guy who's considering a GT.
love you tom
So living in sunny, snow free AZ would you recommend RWD or AWD Stinger GT?
Flaunting badges has gotten old. It's the product that matters!
New badges is coming now! 2021! :)
@@Timodon1 You totally missed my point, but that's okay.
@@bassistdc Dont worry comrade, i have Stinger too! :) Have a wonderfull day sir! :) First car i had back in 1972 was Dodge Dart -65! :) And some other Mopars too!
Excellent review as always Tom...hit all the highs and the glaring omissions in this offering from Kia. Wonderful effort from Kia but I expected them to give us all the creature comforts/ bells and whistles that I have in my Optima (rear heated seats, rear sun screens, 360* camera, panoramic sunroof) in the Stinger as well. Disappointed at Kia for leaving those out.
Well, first world problems, huh? Still a nice car. Maybe in the refresh.
Great Review Tom. Can you please do one on the 2.OT AWD?
Probably not. Too many other cars to look at.
canonlybeme4life one youtube reviewer was surprised by the amount of power it had. Simply put, 4 cylinder turbo 250 horsepower(not GT) is plenty for most people. GT is for fiery suicide.
Amazing machine
"prime gasoline"...was that a nod to the Transformers movie franchise? They did have a Stinger in one of those movies.
Either way, great vid as always!
Uh... yeah... that wasn't a typo. It was intentional. Uh huh...
My wife and I are picking up a 2019 Stinger 3.3T GT2 AWD, fully loaded, tomorrow. About $53k. After driving Audis, the new S60, and I have a BMW M240i xDrive, we made our decision to buy the Stinger in about five minutes after test driving one. What a fantastic car. I got completely cured of any European car snobbery after driving the range topping Genesis G70 3.3T AWD and the Stinger. We picked the Stinger because we need more room that the G70 provides. Wonderful cars, both. And BTW, the 2019 GT2 does have a 360 camera.
I have a 2021 Stinger GT and I believe the quality is amazing. I’ve only drove Lexus for the last 5 years. I’ve had 3. This car is as nice as my GS350 was - but better power. The Lexus was a little more quiet , but I’m happy with power trade
this Kia is superb, looks good, and drives amazing, I wasn't interested in buying a new car, but I will promptly drive off to a Kia dealer for a test drive, I want to know what Kia has done and how good it has done it.
Love the car. Thumbs up.
Thanks, Tom. I miss you appearing in the NY Times. I'm glad I found you.
Thanks!
wow, beautiful!
Well done.
Kia doesn't need to convince me. I own a Soul! and Mustang GT. Hyundai's Tau 5.0L V8 would make it even more enticing. A friend asked me how can Kia be tops in reliability if they hired German engineers/designers. Obviously, there's more to it.
You might want to check some of the recent reliability ratings. BMW and Audi are right up there with simpler cars such as KIAa in terms of reliability. Ford is near the bottom with other American brands.
Hiring Germans and developing in Europe is the best thing KIA ever did, smart move.
www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/car-brands-reliability-how-they-stack-up/
Yes, I read that a couple of months ago. Thanks. JD Powers too. Although I'd be concerned about long term reliability of turbos. The Audi & BMW ones are notorious for oil burning, as reported by CR. Ford's Ecoboost lineup is a mess. That's why both my Soul & Mustang are naturally aspirated ;)
cadsux My 2005 Volvo x XC 70 has 200,000 miles and the turbo has never had a problem.
Good for you. Last year Volvo ranked #23 with Consumer Reports Reliability Survey.
not as reliable as a toyota, but what is?
that's weird, last time when i sat in the back, i thought there was tons of leg room, and i'm 6'. I did notice the driver's seat automatically push backwards when I open the doors to get in and out. Maybe the seat was left pushed back.
Took that into consideration and moved it back for me.
No panoramic sunroof because it has a hatch. New Buick Regal has the same thing. Audi A5 has the same thing. Don't complain about things engineering cannot solve (not enough roof reinforcement for a large sunroof). Otherwise, nice review.
The Canadian model I tested had 360 degrees camera and heated seats...
L A B yes! That’s a huge issue for me here in the U.S.! The Optima, Cadenza, Sorento etc. all have surround view and it makes absolutely no sense why they’d left this off their second most expensive car...if you want to consider the K900 a vehicle. :)
1:32 The kia is NOT a hatchback, it is a fastback sedan!
But it opens like a hatchback ?
Great job again Tom. The only real problem with this car is the KIA badge. In the future I can see that changing, but maybe Kia should change the way there car badge looks. Just saying.
Rouge 1972 many people agree with you. Keep the kia lettering but in a much fancier font; italic?
2:05 Torque limiter on 1st gear to maintain transmission reliability lifespan.
Hate to break it to you but this beat the Q50 red sport in tests. To cite just one, it was faster in acceleration (.7 sec to 60!), had better steering feel, better grip, better braking (by 9 feet), and scored higher in ergonomics, comfort, noise, etc.
Bruno TaTa id still take the Q50 over kia anyday. At the end of the day its just a kia. They need Go redesign their ugly brand logo.
Naughtysauce exactly. Its like 50k for a kia? When u can get Audi/BMW/Mercedes.
They are neck and neck 0-60, with nearly identical ETs but with the RS400 running a trap at 4mph faster.
1. I'm selling a BMW because of "brand" image. It causes problems in certain areas.
2. I need a hatch as we are transporting dogs and items back and forth between our home and a beach condo.
3. The Q50 is fine, I had a G35, excellent dealers. But they have not been what they once were in terms of reliability and resale, unfortunately. Kia seems on the upswing and this car may break their bad-resale habit. Consumer Reports says the Q50 has been their least reliable model.
Beat the Q50 Redsport? I think not, especially AWD vs AWD. In fact the Redsport traps faster. Certainly a nice car but it's still a Kia.
The backup camera does do all views??? Idk why you’re saying it does not
no wonder evil twin wasn't around this time, 1.1. early in the morning isn't the right time for a die-hard party animal. 😁
A 360 degree camera system is available as an option
Stinger in Europe has both of lacks
360 Camera and rear seats heating
I don't think that was an afterthought (the strip of red accent connecting to the rear lights). It's embedded on the body and do not appear to be just sticker.
This car should have won the NAIAS 2018 car of the Year award and not the Accord.
I have one. Great car.
Impressive car. First thing to swap out are those wheels.
GT2 RWD for me only. The tires are good for dry and wet conditions. Mines will see very very little snow.
We have the TT 3.3 GT for our shop car, and with it being at 455 WHP... it has surprised a lot of people :)
the stinger is a competitor to the audi s5 or bmw 440i sportback.
bring it here in the philippines kia!
The US model also does not have wireless charging. Then again us international folks don't get all wheel drive
Nice
Leaved to 2.0 liter turbo add AWD , than you got your self a 900 hp with a manual transmission from Evo 8 or EvoX AWD set up
will buy in a couple years after reliability studies and a dramatic amount of depreciation for a sweet deal on a sweet car. let the first owner pay $52k
Need to make a 3door coupe
In 2013 I purchased a Hyundai Genesis R Spec, until it was stolen in 2016. I loved my Genesis, probably the best car I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned a ton of higher end cars (Saab, BMW’s, Cadillac to name a few). I am torn between the G80 Sport and the Stinger. Interested to hear everyone’s thoughts. Thanks
I've driven both. It really depends on what you want out of the car. I suggest test driving both and making your mind up that way. And yes, the G80 Sport review is coming (in a number of weeks).
Dean Lazzari This is a difficult comparison. I haven't test drove a G80 sport yet. But I'm willing to bet that the Stinger will be silighty more agile.
Thank you for replying. I’ve driven both now, and I’m probably going to get the Genesis G80 Sport. A bit more luxurious and at my age I like that a lot 😎
I really wanna buy this bad boy. Time to save money.
This is a cool car.
Good, but no manual transmission option puts it out of consideration for me.
Why did you say this really wasn't meant to compare with Q50 redsport? I think they are very comparable.
Great review. Just my 2 cents. I'm looking at this, the G70, Q50RS or waiting for a TLX Type S. You said it doesn't really compete with a Q50RS. I don't agree. I test drove the Red Sport, then the Kia Stinger, and I'm in Canada so we get 360 camera and heated seats on the Stinger. Then I tested the Red Sport again. Honestly, that Red Sport felt old after driving the Kia, is very under optioned, and the infotainment is beyond laggy. My current 15' TLX Elite is far better equipped than the Q50RS, much slower, but much better on gas and bigger. The Kia blew me away. I'm not a Korean fan and have only ever owned Jap cars. Too bad they are having massive paint issues otherwise I may already own one since I can't get a G70 in my Area. The other area where they messed up is the tire size. They advertise it to be an all weather car for Canada with it's AWD. However, with it's odd staggered tire size with 35's in the back, the winter 18's you'll need are an odd, rare sized tire that'll be too low profile for any winter pothole. I'm already driving on 18's in the winters at 50 series and that's low enough.
i love KIAS
With this one being a whole $20,000 more than a base Stinger, they probably should’ve sent both out for reviews.
They come now with 360° cam view....
I saw one on a dealer’s lot with a MSRP of $51K
and get a used car comparably equipped
Nobody pays sticker.