Exploring Poison Ivy - Fatal Attraction for Teens
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Good Bad Flicks takes a look at Poison Ivy. Directed by Katt Shea Ruben.
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My father actually ended up in a bit part in the Drew Barrymore movie, "Everybody's Fine". It's kind of toward the end of the movie. In the scene where Barrymore is in the airport, and she's having this heartfelt conversation with the male lead, whoever he was, the terminal is empty. Then you see my father, with his kind of scraggly hair and white beard, walk out of a side hallway, into the terminal, pulling a luggage thing, and walk past them, completely ignoring them. The camera gets some very good shots of him walking right in front of the actors. His friends in the audience, who were also extras, but you never saw their faces (maybe just the backs of their heads.) in the movie. stood up in the theater, giving my father a standing ovation. Haha!! The rest of the audience was kind of clueless. But my father's friends didn't let this go. They were telling the audience that there was a "Star!" among them, embarrassing the hell out of my dad!
Both this and The Crush are my top Guilty Pleasures
I love "The Crush"!!! Underrated flick
@@arizonaFIREent hell yeah, one of my favorite stalker movies!
I literally just watch the crush for the first time since the 90s a month ago. It's actually much more creepy than this movie. Still holds up in terms of the genre though.
You should check out The Babysitter
I’ve never seen The Crush, I’ll have to check it out.
I love how these videos touches a lot on the story of the people behind the movies.
Agreed. I'm really interested in the pre-production stuff.
Agreed as well, this series that Cecil does is Amazing, I've learned so much about movies watching this channel. It's also introduced me to a gold mine of films to watch.
Cecil's vids are always very informative and entertaining. If you like the stories behind the actors especially, Be Kind Rewind is a great channel for that 👍🏻
I know, it shows the good research
Me too. Respect
Poison Ivy is probably my favorite Drew Barrymore movie. Becuase she used to get typecast as a loveable and likable character. Here is the opposite, while she is likable at begining, you start to disslike her as the movie goes along. I checked out Poison Ivy 2 & 3. Poison Ivy 2 is not good but Poison Ivy 3 is much better than 2 but not better than the original. Thank you for insightful behind scenes video as always.
One of my favorite guilty pleasure films. Love Drew Barrymore in this. Thank you for covering "Poison Ivy"
Thanks for watching!
CECIL: "Poison Ivy" is a "reverse oedipus" story.
CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: Reverse oedipus, you say...
You know there is a real term for it and it's not reverse Oedipus.
@@EDsavant Yes, Electra complex. But, the direct quote from the video is “reverse Oedipus.” Hence the Christopher Nolan joke. Explaining jokes is fun.
@@fredskull1618 I was calling the video out not you
@@EDsavant Forgive me. The wording of your comment suggested otherwise.
my cat distracted me the first minute but when I heard *christina applegate* you got my full attention =P
Fun fact. The lead in Poison Ivy 4 is Icebox from Little Giants.
"call me becky."
So wait. The producer kills the main antagonist, but they still made 3 sequels? Producers are dumb.
Soon Poison Ivy 5 the orgy
So weird that this flopped, because as a teen in high school when this came out, I knew a lot of people obsessed with it
I gotta admit, I'm one of those who had seen the sequels (at least a couple of them) and figured the original was similar so never really checked it out.
I'll have to change that soon.
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Man, I’d love to see an exploring video on Critters.
Likewise.
Same here. It's one of my favorite horror franchises.
There are probably a thousand videos about critters and every other stupid franchise
This parallel Cecil vs Brandon Tenold uploading makes me happy! Do continue, please!
Same, got both notifications at the same time.
@@Malum09 I hope they start a tradition!
I'm in good company :)
I was just thinking the same thing!
“Energy never dies - it just changes form.”
Completely forgot about this film as a separate film from "The Crush". My mind somehow combined them and I was genuinely surprised when you started talking about Drew Barrymore. I'll have to rewatch it.
“Now I’m not saying I dislike the sequels...” Cut to cover shot of The New Seduction. I feel ya there. Jaime Pressly is astonishingly beautiful in that movie. And unlike Drew, she was an adult at the time of filming. To the decided benefit of the viewer.
This came out right at the epicenter of my youthful Drew obsession. It got rented a lot (until I eventually got a used video store copy)
Also I'm a lifelong Horror fan & I'm def a fan of this movie (as well as 'People Under the Stairs')
Now it's about time to get into the Wild Orchid movies!
My apologies if someone else mentioned this (there are a lot of comments to sift through), but to Cecil's point about New Line's marketing department being clueless as to how to market a movie "starring" kids that is not actually "for" kids; my response to those marketing dopes would have been "do you remember what Columbia did with 'Stand By Me'?"
I say that because let's not forget that "Stand By Me" is an R-rated film. Most people do tend to forget that fact because it wound up being very popular with people who weren't even old enough to see it in a theater without a parent present. However, it was still a very successful film, both critically and commercially, and I have to believe that success was not based on families going to see it.
So, with that in mind, clearly someone in Hollywood, at some point, knew how to market a movie starring kids that wasn't made for kids. The other studios just didn't bother to learn from the success of Columbia in that instance. Then again, maybe New Line was just a one-trick pony at that time, and didn't know how to sell anything other than "Elm Street" to the 17 and older crowd.
It’s funny that the love scenes in the movie between Barrymore and Skerritt you could tell weren’t interacting with other. They were never together in the same shot for the more compromising scenes.
This guy is ALWAYS on point. So glad to have subscribed all these years ago...
It's weird how they don't make "sexy" movies anymore. Movies like this and Basic Instinct are extinct.
Probably the culture of our times. I think if the sex appeal is focused on too hard then a film will get criticized for only using the women as objects. A movie like this shows it can be done, or really several films can, but it just may not be worth even risking backlash to some studios.
As with everything people say are not made anymore, they do. They never stopped. Adult thrillers aren't big anymore. They haven't been pushed in theaters for years, sure. But, plenty of them are streaming. You just have to look. I didn't even know about this movie until it hit VHS. These types of movies were a result of a craze at the time. The "from hell" craze after fatal attraction. If movies made strictly for adults ever becomes popular again, we will see a resurge.
I imagine they are seen as too "problematic"
@@popculturewatch8689 there's a different between "adult" thrillers and "erotic" thrillers. We've kind of revered back to the puritan era where nudity is strongly frowned upon. Even those awful 50 Shades of Grey movies were pretty tame compared to the movies of the 70s/80s/90s.
There are still some foreign countries that make "sexy" movies but almost no Western English speaking countries make them anymore.
@@Malum09 isn't that weird though? Like I love the John Wick movies, it's okay to show dudes getting shot in the face for 2 hours, but show two people having intimate simulated sex has now become a problem. It's like the puritans finally won.
This marketing problem for this movie reminds me of what happened with Cruel Intentions. You had Sarah Michelle Gellar in the lead, but it wasn't a teenybopper movie, nor was it made for Buffy fans. So you had this sophisticated and mature film that people automatically and wrongly thought was a silly sex romp. Thanks, Cecil. Magnificent job, as always.
@docsamson198. Some teen movies can get very dark like Thirteen, The Virgin Suicides, Kids, Ken Park, Kidulthood, Bully, Elephant, those movies explores themes like school shootings, suicide, depression, underage sex, underage drinking, Drug use, self harming, gangs, rape, and Incest, there was a lot of movies involving teen exploitation in the 90’s and 00’s.
I also find it funny how over here in the U.K. these movies are either rated 15 or 18, yet some of those movies deal with characters that are supposed to be younger than that.
So movies like Cruel Intensions and Poison Ivy may be more mature but they fall low compared to the other movies I listed. But when people think of teen movies they think Mean Girls and Bring It On and stuff like that, but there is this whole other side of teen movies that can get very dark.
Getting a bit off track here but I find it extremely hypocritical that finding underage people attractive could land you in prison and or on a sex offenders list, yet they make movies about teen exploitation, and Drew Barrymore was 17 (underage mind you) when she was in Poison Ivy and having sex scenes with an actor old enough to be her father. Extremely hypocritical on society’s part really.
Cruel Intentions is a modern day remake of Dangerous Liaisons.
@@forannies Yes! I like both movies very much. The cast did an outstanding job in both of them.
This was the movie that really clued me in on Barrymore's talent. I have been a fan of hers for decades.
Correct me if I am wrong but I remember this movie getting a lot of attention solely because of the kiss between the two girls which was seen as somewhat controversial for that time in the early nineties. For some reason I don't even remember barrymore did this movie, but I haven't seen it since it was first released on VHS. Thanks for the review
A kiss between girls wasn't even controversial in the nineties. But media back then - just like today - wanted you to believe, that we live in a culture where such a thing is controversial. Because media wants to sell you an idea that gets your atention. Creating a scandal is a very effective way to get attention. Nowadays we call this "clickbait".
greetings from germany :-)
@@moserfugger6363 A kiss between two girls was certainly controversial here in the States. It's the reason I watched the damn movie.
@@moserfugger6363 I agree that it was used to stir up interest in the film that was kinda my point but I don't remember much about that movie now I just watched it that one time in college. But for some reason I remembered that they played up the whole kiss. Of course I was like twenty and we were trying to hit on the girls who were watching the movie with us, LOL
@@moserfugger6363 I agree that it was used to stir up interest in the film that was kinda my point but I don't remember much about that movie now I just watched it that one time in college. But for some reason I remembered that they played up the whole kiss. Of course I was like twenty and we were trying to hit on the girls who were watching the movie with us, LOL
I remember Entertainment Tonight or one of those shows making a big deal about “the kiss” in this movie.
This is legit one of the best channels on TH-cam
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Thank you!
I learned of Katt Shea from the Nancy Drew movie due to it being more well made than you’d expected. Did not imagine she’d have such an interesting background. Very curious about checking out some of these movies. Love your content as always!
She's a really good director and its a shame she doesn't do more. You should check out Streets if you can find it.
@@GoodBadFlicks it's on TH-cam for free.
SKINEMAX! Drew was perfect in this film. She walks that fine line between teen and adult. I saw the Milano sequel,but didn't have that same quality as the first. Although, Embrace of the Vampire with Milano was a great movie in my opinion.
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Poison Ivy starring Drew Barrymore was a good movie.
@Rick Wilkinson It's a good movie.
Cecil and Brandon Tenold reviews make Mondaya awesome.
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I was 15 when this film arrived at my local video rental store. Over the years, I rented and watched it so many times. It’s now been at least a decade since I last saw Poison Ivy, and I’m not seeing anywhere to stream it, so I suppose I’ll have to buy the DVD. I love this film, and watching it at 15 absolutely felt both alluring and dreamy. I could relate, in some ways, to Drew’s character.
Oh, shit. I remember that Strip to Kill-2 box cover from when I worked at a video store. We got so many complaints from parents about it.
I come back to this film for its atmosphere, incredible soundtrack, great fashion looks and cinematography. It stays with you for a while after the credit rolls!
I worked on this film. It was a difficult shoot due to the co-directors constantly arguing. They got so bad that they would put the entire crew on hold while they yell at each other. Some days they would just give up and let the crew wrap for the day. ( not so great for hourly workers) other days they would argue for 8 hours and then angrily order the crew to work a double. The shoot schedule was a mess. Sara G and Tom S are always great people to have on a project. They were a grounding force during the directors pissing matches.
What would they argue over?
Did you think that it was pretty insane that Drew was 17 and Tom Skerritt was 59 at the time of filming? I didn't realise the massive age difference until I looked it up. He was born the same year as my Grandma and I'm 32.
It seems like a lot of people around Drew Barrymore failed her as a kid and just looked at it like Hey this is our cash cow into Hollywood
Drew Barrymore is amazing in this movie it really was a comeback movie for her🤘😎👍
Yes, and I agree that is horribly sad that she needed a comeback movie while still in her teens. It seems miraculous that she survived and still has her sanity.
This movie had a huge impact on my childhood. Remember seeing it back in 1993 n it stayed with me to this day. Thanx for all the background infos. I had no idea what kind of a staple this actually was. 🥰
Um...did not know drew barrymore was only SIXTEEN in this film. Yes no nudity, but still...kind of creepy
Wait until you hear about Natalie Portman in Leon the Professional
What about Jodie Foster in "Taxi Driver"???
Thats mean you didn't know in Hollywood is much worst.
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So the locals were upset that a movie was being shot in L.A.? Did they not realize where they lived? The movie making capital of the WORLD?
You nailed this. I’ve always felt that the first Poison Ivy was unfairly grouped in with its late night style sequels. The first movie really is about so much more than just eroticism
Oh hot damn!! During my teen years, i used to stay up late & catch Poison Ivy on HBO, Cinemax, etc., all the time!! Mainly because i thought Drew was incredibly hot, but also, because I love the story, as well. I liked the sequels too, & yes, they are incredibly different. Thanks for doing this one, Cecil!
How can these studios that have strong advertising departments miss the obvious of how to sell a different kind of film .. because it's Different !!!
It just shows how much the great John Carpenter said he is just happy to have Survived Hollywood !!!
This movie takes me back to high school. One of my all time favorites 😊 thank you for doing this movie!!
I was obsessed with Drew. I loved this movie
Really loved this video I was already a fan of Kat Shea bc of The Rage, really underrated movie
It certainly is a movie that came out in theaters. I will give it that.
Drew Barrymore is incredibly beautiful in this movie, the rope swing part of the movie has the biggest 90’s feels…
I saw this film, but none of the sequels. Hoping GoodBad Flicks will cover those sequels. 😊😊
Love the ‘exploring’ series. Keep em coming dude!
I loved this movie when I was a kid because I had the biggest crush on Sara Gilbert from watching her on Roseanne
Yeah, I really liked her back then. But sadly, nowadays she's just another lefty opportunist who didn't even have the backbone to take a stand for the woman who made her career possible in the first place (yeah, I'm talking about Roseanne Barr). greetings from germany
I would have been nice to see her in more movies. Maybe she was but never anything mainstream enough for me to know about I guess
I thought I was the only person who had a crush on her, lol
@@31TV_TX I thought the exact same thing lol
Explore Critters 3 next!
Every girl I knew in the 90s loved this movie
Drew's mum took her clubbing as a pass in.Taking your 8yr ol out to night clubs isn't a good start to anything
.If it's not one thing its the mother. Loved the uploads inside to this strange movie.
There's a Canadian feature film called Night Blooms coming out soon, starring Nick Stahl, that has a similar plot, also set in the nineties. I'd check it out, its in post now as far as I'm aware
Next movie you should do is Knight Moves, a great 1992 suspense thriller starring Christopher Lambert, Diane Lane and yes - Tom Skerritt again.
This is a well made movie with good writing, good cinematography, and good acting. a movie you can watch more than once and still enjoy.
I like the sequels as well, but not as I like the Poison Ivy original. The sequels were a different kind of thriller\horror.
That's crazy imagine being addicted 2 cocaine at 11-12 years old damn near still a baby let alone a lil child
She was living like she was 21 at 12 sad
I actually own this movie on dvd! It's weirdly good
Idk if you'll see this but your channel got me through 2020, especially the explore series
You are very welcome. Its been a rough year for all of us. I hope you are seeing brighter days. :)
"Kids" is the best example of a movie about kids no kid should watch.
Dear god was that movie garbage.
That movies is good.
Yes Larry Clarke’s other movies too like Ken Park and Bully are films staring teens but not for teens...
@@Axolotl_Mischief Yeah, I remember all the critical acclaim it got, but I was disappointed too.
Yea lol I saw that when I was 15ish
I have Posion Ivy 123 and I finally found the soundtrack to this movie too and its a cult classic. This movie put Drew Berrymore back on the map in Hollywood and Drew Berrymore did Scream, Never Been Kissed Charlies Angels, Gun Crazy, 2000 Malbiu Road and Doppleganger, No Where To Hide, and everyone remembered Drew in ET back in 1982. Drew Berrymore has made it as an actress and she has the Hollywood Walk Of Fame and now she has her own Talk Show.
She really owes everything she has now to this movie. (and the director believing in her)
I’ve heard about this film. But I never watched it. After seeing this video, I might check it out. And it’s great that this film basically helped Drew Barrymore get back on her feet and revitalize her career. 🙂
It's thanks to this film is why Drew got herself back together! And I'm glad it did! I love Drew's work! And I love this video! :)
yo an actual GoodBadFlicks video in 2021? i was binging your catalog!
Great video Cecil. So much great detail.
Can you please do a video on Eraser directed by Chuck Russell and staring Arnold Schwarzenegger?
I remember and love this movie! Still waiting for Brain Scan 😄 No pressure though
Ooh, I love "Stripped to Kill'; I'm a fan of Kay Lenz (She's in "Breezy", "Moving Violation", "The Great Scout and Cathouse Thursday", "Fast-Walking", "House"-- I like all that stuff).
Great info on "Poison Ivy"; I've never been that into the film, but I think it's okay.
Okay, Katt Shea: in looking her up, I've discovered that she played the character in "Psycho III" who was killed by Norman Bates while she sat on the crapper john, so I have seen her as an actress before. Wow, that was a pretty cold-blooded kill by Bates. I recorded "Psycho III" back in 1988, but it was recorded in pieces since I ran out of room on the original cassette (Memorex!), so that kill got misplaced. Shea's Patsy and Juliette Cummins' (poor gal, doesn't she almost have a porn star-sounding last name?) Red are killed in a slasher film kind of way, but then again, I feel "Psycho III" has more slasher film qualities than the first two films in the series (nothing wrong with that I say, and I think Anthony Perkins did a good job there).
More to my comment: I re-watched "Psycho III", and discovered that Shea's role as Patsy was bigger than I remembered (I think her moment telling Maureen about here open hotel room door was rather sweet). I've also discovered that some girls are bigger than others.
I wonder if Drew Barrymore talked to Cheryl Ladd about "Charlie's Angels" while they were on set together. One a part Angel, and another a future Angel (I liked that first "Charlie's Angels" film, but was underwhelmed by the sequel).
Cecil is one of the most underrated content creators on TH-cam. Top 5 favorite for me.
Thanks! I'm doing my best out here :)
Movie was nothing like "Fatal Attraction", not based off a one night stand, but about friendship and desire going dark. Love this movie
You are missing the point. It's not about literally be like fatal attraction. It's the genre that it spawned. The "from hell" movies. Roommate, friend, neighbor, boss, tenant, husband, nany from hell. Usually featuring a character wrecking someone's life for their own motives.
Great video! Thanks for not putting crappy music in the background all the way through like so many do, was nice to not be distracted from what you had to say.
Can you do people under the stairs or black dynamite?
I love the passion in the research and storytelling of this. I want to see this film now and learn more about the director.
Great job on the video, Cecil. I remember this film came out during "The (fill in the blank) From Hell" craze, with Basic Instinct, The Hand That Rocks The Cradle, and Single White Female to name a few.
Thanks as always Cecil.
What I'm most greatful about her career is her producing Donnie Darko, which may not have been made otherwise.
Cheryl Ladd's presence reminded me of another movie where was the mother of a sitcom alumnus- Staci Keanan in"Lisa" which could've been good.. but...
04:06 C'mon man, she was rehearsing, playing drums in her band Sepultura 😜😅
How i love your channel
Bringing memories of movies i watched ages ago and 90% of the time i couldnt remember the name
:)
I watched this tonight on your recommendation and really enjoyed. Thank you for the video, as always.
You are very welcome ^^
Gooooood. Baaaaaaad. Flickssssss.
I didn't want to watch this video but then you built a fascinating story about the production. Damn you.
I'm doing my job then :)
I have a strong feeling the people who made Orphan (2009) really liked this movie...
STREETS > POISON IVY. This is also one of those infuriating 90's movies where the main character, Sara Gilbert's character, is clearly a lesbian but the movie doesn't have the balls to say so (see: Fried Green Tomatoes).
“They didn’t have an ending” seems like a common theme with these videos.
I wonder why someone like James Franco gets to make one horrible movie after another which bomb, but a female director makes a good unsuccesful one doesn't get to work for a decade...
Also, when Hollywood makes a good movie they don't know how to sell it; i guess that's why they prefer making bad ones...
Great video as usual, man! Thanx!!!!
Imagine being one of the test audiences after watching the Wes Craven movie then moving to this one. And be like “I didn’t signed up for this” but at the same time fascinating.
You know, I would have been the perfect person for that test audience.
would you have brought your own pack of tissues? :-)
Two of my top crushes and favorite films from my teens
The locals of LA hated they were filming a movie in their neighborhood?? Where the hell did they thought they were living in?! Sounds like it was one of those spoiled gated neighborhoods where they call the police on anyone walking the street, so of course they would spitefully make noise just to disrupt a movie that's filming for a few days.
I LOVED THIS MOVIE OMG 😅😉😎💁🏻♀️!
Okay, going through the back catalog here (hence the comment on a year-old video), and I had thought I'd Mandela Effect'd myself into thinking that this movie starred Alicia Silverstone and Cary Elwes, but then realized that's a totally DIFFERENT movie that's somehow exactly the same called "The Crush".
Similar but different. Poison Ivy is about a manipulative teenage drifter who moves into a rich house, seduces a grieving husband, and destroys the family. The Crush is about a guy who moves into the guest house of a rich family with a very intellient, disturbed teenager. She proceeds to try and get the guy to fall in love with her and when he doesn't, she goes out of her way to ruin him. Structually similar but very different overall.
I actually like this movie a lot. It's a pity it didn't get a lot praise at the time. Drew Barrymore is my favorite actresses. she's about the same age as I am 17. She's truly a professional performer
Anyone else miss giant curly 90's hair??
Very much so. If my hair wasn’t straight I’d be doing that look. It’s amazing.
Not even a little. I think it looks terrible.
Perfect, my pizza just came out of the oven
Awesome as always definitely one of the underrated movie review channel on TH-cam!!!! Love this channel and can't wait to see what you got planned next thanks for your hard work and research it definitely shows!!... 💀👻💀
Thank you!
Great as always Cecil, would love an exploring video of The people under the stairs. Such a great movie
That's crazy how this was a big comeback break for her and yet she didn't bother to turn up twice!
I never realised she had such a damaged childhood.
Always enjoy your videos Cecil. Any I have yet to watch is only because I want to see the movies first.
Thank you for all your effort :D
Yeah, she had a really jacked up childhood and teen years but got clean and became the Drew Barrymore we all know and love from The Wedding Singer and onwards. Glad she was able to turn her life around before she self destructed. Her path reminds me of Robert Downey Jr. quite a bit too.
Hopefully, he'll be able to explore The Good Son (1993 movie).
Drew Berrymore in this movie awakened feelings in this lil baby bi when I watched it at 11 on a random tv channel after my parents had gone to bed. I didn't know exactly what it was I felt, only that it was exciting :)
Any chance of a barb wire vid. Love the channel and the film. Nobody else seems to cover it