You should read the whole shebang on court life at Versailles! Oh my. It was one lady pulls on this sleeve another that one. Because these were honors handed out to nobility by The King, and it was a mark of status and wealth. Its quite fascinating!
The irony is that Antoinette hated public eating so much that she would mostly eat privately and preferred simple foods like chicken broth to the extravagant dishes of the court. She did love chocolate, though, and would enjoy the odd sweet during public meals.
@@pedrourbano501 But she ate those foods privately. I think her childhood lended her taste for simple foods. The Imperial Family in Austria were keen to maintain a private life. So, growing up she attended banquets and state occasions but she also enjoyed family time in the family's private apartments. Something the French would never dream of, so for her to find herself on display every moment of every day must have been very hard and she rebelled in whatever ways she could, like taking the majority of meals in her rooms which were always filled with people but it must have been somewhat better than sitting at a table with the whole court staring at her. It's little wonder when she was given the Petit Trianon that she threw so much of her attention into it because not only was she going to create a haven but would spend time there and no one could come unless she invited them. Wanting to be alone is a basic human desire but the court were extremely rigid and public so her natural rebellion only made them hate her more.
To those who dont understand why this was in the first place. A previous french king ( Louis the Great) created the system so as he had a way of keep a close eye and control of his nobles by taking them from their estates and armies and making them wait on him. Thus he could dispense favours and patronage to those that did and deprive those who didnt, so as concentrating his power
@@fubukifangirl yeah I am aware of that but I wasn't intentionally trying to censure the woman. I was merely stating a fact. well actually Antoinette answers to her husband not her mother. Doesn't matter, she was told and advise on what to do and what not to do, she did the opposite. There were tons of women like her who were forced to do this, due to duty. She lived in a world where women like her did not have many choices except to obey but some of them made it a point to survive.
Yes, but they can't eat too much because their corset is just too tight. Apparently the smaller the waist, the prettier and even breathing makes you fat
@@Ryanmanification actually corsets were only worn too tight in the late Victorian days. Women could do all kind o sports in them and it supported their back. But of course the media only looks at one time period and then decides: Corsets baddie! Fat women were thought to be better in this century anyway btw, because they were seemingly not starving
In real life, both Antoinette and Louis were FOURTEEN when they got married. This scene is right after the wedding, so imagine how awkward it would’ve been in real life.
Cheyenne Rhodes I feel like there are several food preparations n methods that could have been done to soften food before resorting to a servant chewing it up for him
I suppose if the courtiers are fighting for the “privilege” of helping you with the napkins, helping you out of the bath, etc., then they wouldn’t have time to plot against you. Pretty clever when you think about it.
@@arynrowland862 It was both. The peasants had the numbers but the noblemen had the money. There were a lot of attacks on the throne by noblemen before Versailles became the seat of power.
@@arynrowland862 Then again, most monarchs that were killed were actually assassinated by people close to them, be it family or other nobles, who sought to overthrow them for the throne and power rather than common folk that was fed up with them.
The ironic thing about Versailles is that, in the reign of Louis XIV, it saved France from plunging into another civil war. From a young age, King Louis developed a great hatred for the aristocracy, largely on account of their rebelliousness. In creating Versailles, he was able to keep all the aristocrats in one place and thus control them. All the ceremonies (like the one above) may seem absurd to contemporary eyes, but they were key to diverting the attention of the nobles away from political schemes that would threaten the King's authority. The problem with Versailles came after the reign of the Sun King. While I cannot be exactly sure, I do not think Louis XV or XVI understood what the palace's real political function was. Instead of using it to control the aristocracy, they saw the perpetuation of its formalities as valuable purely because those formalities were established by their great ancestor. In addition to this, both Louis XV and XVI lacked their predecessor's resolution; put simply, Louis XIV was perfectly happy to tell his aristocrats to "get lost", while his successors were quite unoffending. As a consequence these two factors, the nobles were able to use the isolation that Versailles gave them to combat the King's attempts at reform through the use of pressure and manipulation, a fact which would lead to the revolution. In essence, Versailles went from being a gilded prison for the nobles to a prison for the King.
The King some years later to his nobles: "And that was the longest conversation we ever had in our marriage, glad it was over quickly, it felt eternal".
I know this movie got backlash but I love it! My favorite part was "This is Versailles!" In response to her saying the protocol to get dressed in the a.m was ridiculous.
I’ve learned to appreciate this movie the older I get. Marie never matured beyond a teenager so her reality and focused intentions never went beyond what a teens would. Hence the focus on fashion, parties, and a complete disregard for the suffering of the French people.
@@JP-br4mx glad we had an empire. Why don’t you complain about the african kingdoms that were selling the slaves to begin with, and whose economies were entirely based on slavery and slave trade ? France was never that reliant on slaves. We abolished slavery inside France during the middle ages. And guess also who abolished slavery in Africa ? France and Great Britain mostly.
I never mind eating in front of my family. Eating in public generally does bother me, so that's what I relate the scene to as those Nobles are complete strangers to Marie Antoinette.
@@ladycharlenegrace8023 Le Roi *No 14* Watched them and was a constant threat and could control people . Le Roi *No 16* was the one who was being watched by his la nobelese and being gossiped about . Source of Endless Entertainment the king and his family was .
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 Wrong. Lol you miss the meaning of "watch". No one" watched" the king as the king "watched" them. They surely were not watching the king for treason and betrayal. Observing him to make sure they have towed the line.
@@AbrahamLincoln4 Well everyone did charities back then giving bread to the poor and stuff but of course that doesn't change the fact that they had everything while the poor ones barely had their food to eat. The difference of wealth was so great that little did those charities do for the public. Plus that time was the time of Absolute Monarchy, something that didn't exist even in middle ages. It means that the king was ruling without constitution and without laws per se. To put it simply he could do as he pleased or at least as long as he wasn't upsetting the other nobles because he still needed them.
It certainly had its highs and lows. Not dying of hunger was a huge plus, but it certainly wasn't easy, especially since you risk losing everything all the time.
@@evewaterhouse9869 The revolution was not started by the poor, but rather rich people who weren't nobility. Capitalists and academic elites who hated the king. Poor people suffered due to the economic recession and ancient market system which no longer worked in 18 century France. But a considerable amount of poor people still loved their king even when Parisians beheaded him.
The leftovers would definitely have been eaten by the kitchen staff or lower nobles or somebody. Even working in a restaurant, you serve whatever is in danger of going to waste for family meal.
It was their command economy that caused so much suffering. The cost of the government (including the court) was actually tiny compared to modern times in percentage of total GDP.
fun fact louis the 16th wasnt gay he had a condition where every time he got arroused he suffered immense pain and would pass out thats why he didnt look at women but this was later fixed when he had finally told his doctor about it and it was fixed thats when he had his kids
1:36 Louis the XVI is so cute! The real one would regard this actor for getting the introversion and awkwardness that the late King felt in the first time he met the Madame la Dauphine.
I agree. The filmography is beautiful but the actor's lines are so unrealistic. The phrase that killed me was MA's "it is ok" after several unsuccessful attempts to have sex. Really?
@@LetrasEsFr Nah, the French are pretty frivoulous with their spending. All resources were diverted to Versailles, no investion toward agricultural or urban development are made, a single famine destroy centuries old society and uprotted everything.
Betty Dunn Also, she never actually said that. And the original quote was “let them eat brioche”, but it originated years before Marie Antoinette was even alive, possibly having been first uttered by Madame de Maintenon.
Back then cake didn't mean the dessert we know today. In those times "cake" meant the burned bread crust that spilled over the edges of the baking pan. Learned that in World history class years ago. So when she said "Let them eat cake" She meant let them eat burned food scraps.
The entire court was entitle to know every detail every move How they dressed, what color was the kings hat, what type of shoes the queen was wearing, everything!
Everyone’s saying they would be stressed to eat with so many people watching. Low key me too but if I’m getting fed a spread like THAT then I’m tucking a napkin in my shirt and going to town 🤣🤣
I went to the palace of Versailles when I was in paris the wealth was unreal, how these people could eat and live so lavishly while other people starved is beyond me.😢😢but nothing has changed the rich get richer while the poor pay their taxes.
@Reghan Correct. Versailles took many, many years to build, and, I might add, look at other kingdoms. How many palaces/ castles are under the residence of the British royals? Marie Antoinette really was an Austrian at heart; however, the French court dictated dress, manners, up to the point where she produced heirs. By then, her enemies had severely damaged her reputation, particularly as she had made friends with Princesse de Lamballe (who was murdered horribly in 1792 by thugs). I honestly think there was a better way to have gone about the Revolution, without the murders of many innocent people, particularly women and children.
@@ohcanada8084 revolution doesn't change things they makes things worse and there's no point in wanting better revolutions when they evolved into all out anarchy and chaos.
In her letters, Marie-Antoinette complained that she was so busy all the time, although she was not doing anything at all! The great void and boringness of her life was so meticulously planned and ceremoniously elaborated that it took hours to accomplish... nothing noteworthy!
@@princevesperal Queen Charlotte (George III’s wife) also complained about this in her letters, but at least her marriage to George was a happy one. (Until the onset of his mental illness at least)
@@meganthomas4768 It was especially harsh in Versailles! Which is why the Queen found refuge in the Little Trianon, where protocol did not apply. There, she was "off-duty", and could enjoy life with her friends.
@@princevesperal oh no doubt, the French monarchy was far more intense both politically and ceremoniously than the British were (the Brits would have serious competition if the French monarchy was still around). George and Charlotte were at least allowed to eat breakfast alone.
The Kings before him spent much much more money than these two did. They spent money on their mistresses. It was just a bad luck that when they took the throne, the treasury is almost empty. Another thing is that Marie Antoinette was a Queen, they got used to Queens being modest while the mistresses gets the lavish lifestyle, so when Marie Antoinette acted like those mistresses they started to hate her.
So unfair to the queens, watching their husbands chest and the women they cheat on them with get a lavish and extravagant life, while they deal with stupid men who are running a whole country and half the time aren’t great at it or aren’t great at their marriage.
@Matt Libra King Louis XVI never had a mistress he was to shy to even consummate his marriage to his own wife let alone a mistress. He was literally laughed at for not having a mistress as having a mistresses was a full on job at Versailles
Heck, I'd just take my plate and eat it my bedchambers. Can you imagine eating in a buffet with *everyone* staring at you? La royauté est trop stressante pour moi.
True luxury is being able to live how you want. That's how you define it in the 21st century- my house. My rules. My way (from crazy cat lady in trackpants to bloggers living in villas) AND thank God for that!!!!
She was just fourteen when she married Louis and he was fifteen and when his father died I think he was nineteen and she eighteen, so they both had no clue about running a country so they both did as they were told by advisers and it led to them being executed for their trouble
The one thing I can think of, during this whole thing, is: This is visually stunning. But I bet that when this happened back in the day, the whole place reeked of sewage and filth, and no amount of prettiness could take away from that.
It didn't as much as you think. During the building of Versailles, yes, there were areas where the workers would pee and poop in a corner, but they didn't have chemical toilets, you know... But the palace had bathrooms and Marie Antoinette was very well known for her daily baths, a habit she had from her past life. Sure they wouldn't bathe as much as we do today, but my mom always tell me that up until the 70s people just stank more because they used to bathe once a week or even less. But at least the rooms in Versailles were big and had large windows, so I guess it wasn't so hard to have some good air circulation... Unlike buses in the 70s.
The look on her face at the end says it all! "What have I gotten myself into?" Not that she had any say in the matter but you can just tell that is is annoyed and uncomfortable and doesn't fit in. I feel so bad for her.
Kirsten Dunst height of 5'6/5'7 is an accurate representation of the stature of Marie Antoinette. However Louis XVI was arounf 6 ft 1 to 6 ft 4' in height, one of the tallest French kings ever. Not an accurate portrayal like so many movies that intentionally cast a shorter actor to "portray" lack of presence. Louis XVI had physical presence but he lacked political and acumen presence. The Sun King Louis XIV was short but he had the political nous and the acumen to be a top leader.
Now i get why Coppola signed Kristen Dunst for this role. She´s smiling the whole movie!!!! She took everything jokingly, It was not be for lowerly. The measures of etiquette in Versailles bordered on the ridiculous.
There's a game about this... I can't believe the developers were able to capture how alien Marie felt every time Louis refused to let her know him, the alien feeling eventually turning to stress and frustration as time passed on. It's addictive, and I just want to keep playing it and NOT have them all get guillotined in the end (it's interactive with multiple endings).
I would feel so stressed having my breakfast with all eyes on me
That was actually started by the kings grandfather. He did it so he could keep an eye on everyone.
It’s so strange that Louis XVI was an absolute monarch , he could rule according to his will but couldn’t dismiss people at breakfast.
You should read the whole shebang on court life at Versailles! Oh my. It was one lady pulls on this sleeve another that one. Because these were honors handed out to nobility by The King, and it was a mark of status and wealth. Its quite fascinating!
@@ladycharlenegrace8023 Nobility were dependent upon the king and queen.
@@Brandonhayhew well...duh! ThAnks
The irony is that Antoinette hated public eating so much that she would mostly eat privately and preferred simple foods like chicken broth to the extravagant dishes of the court. She did love chocolate, though, and would enjoy the odd sweet during public meals.
I don’t like eating meals around other people either unless people I know are eating with me.
My little theory as towhy she preferred the simpler foods is becuse she could eat them faster to get out of that situation.
@@pedrourbano501 But she ate those foods privately. I think her childhood lended her taste for simple foods. The Imperial Family in Austria were keen to maintain a private life. So, growing up she attended banquets and state occasions but she also enjoyed family time in the family's private apartments. Something the French would never dream of, so for her to find herself on display every moment of every day must have been very hard and she rebelled in whatever ways she could, like taking the majority of meals in her rooms which were always filled with people but it must have been somewhat better than sitting at a table with the whole court staring at her. It's little wonder when she was given the Petit Trianon that she threw so much of her attention into it because not only was she going to create a haven but would spend time there and no one could come unless she invited them. Wanting to be alone is a basic human desire but the court were extremely rigid and public so her natural rebellion only made them hate her more.
I can hardly imagine a worse existence.
Pretentiousness is thoroughly repulsive imv.
Ironically, she is not shown eating here at all, just a few sips of water.
To those who dont understand why this was in the first place. A previous french king ( Louis the Great) created the system so as he had a way of keep a close eye and control of his nobles by taking them from their estates and armies and making them wait on him. Thus he could dispense favours and patronage to those that did and deprive those who didnt, so as concentrating his power
It also robbed other nobles of their money, as they would put forth expenses to seem more important. This system was also used in Russia
I mean, the system did its job, but it also helped to bankrupt the country and further divide the classes.
There was never any Louis the Great. There was Louis the XIV (the Sun King).
You're right, but France was pretty much unified during the reign of Louis XIII.
Not unified enough it seems
“Do enjoy like making keys?”
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“..obviously”
@Just Getting By before louis become a king, he was asked what he wanted to be called like, he answered severus (meaning severe) 😂
Master virgin
Well it was a dumb question when you think about it.. lol..
@@prettynerd4779 She was just trying to make conversation with her new husband. He was either dumb not to realise that, or rude to her.
@@someone3187 Yes. She was clearly trying to make him talk about his hobby.
That kind of life must have been hell.
Its no wonder she had a gambling and spending problem!
Yeah... no wonder she had issues.
She literally put herself In her own world.
@@faflamingo2193 She had no choice in the matter. Her mother forced her into it and she can't exactly refuse to obey the ruler of Austria.
@@fubukifangirl yeah I am aware of that but I wasn't intentionally trying to censure the woman. I was merely stating a fact.
well actually Antoinette answers to her husband not her mother. Doesn't matter, she was told and advise on what to do and what not to do, she did the opposite. There were tons of women like her who were forced to do this, due to duty. She lived in a world where women like her did not have many choices except to obey but some of them made it a point to survive.
Great dieting technique, wouldn’t be able to eat a thing
Yes, but they can't eat too much because their corset is just too tight. Apparently the smaller the waist, the prettier and even breathing makes you fat
Please, do not starve yourself!
Same.
@@cheflaurel7453 this!
@@Ryanmanification actually corsets were only worn too tight in the late Victorian days. Women could do all kind o sports in them and it supported their back. But of course the media only looks at one time period and then decides: Corsets baddie!
Fat women were thought to be better in this century anyway btw, because they were seemingly not starving
Wow what an awkward breakfast!
Royalty awkward :-)
Like eating at a buffet but everyone staring at you.
In real life, both Antoinette and Louis were FOURTEEN when they got married. This scene is right after the wedding, so imagine how awkward it would’ve been in real life.
20/21 is this immediately after their accession?
Before. The chamberlain calls her "madame la dauphine "
@@DemonicLordAgrael So where's Louis XV then? I think the Dauphin wasn't treated like that only a king would receive such honor
@@danielrutz4274 omg. The heirs doesn't eat with the King. You don't even watch the movie
@@DemonicLordAgrael I didn't that's why I'm asking. Nevertheless I can't imagine that even the heir received such pomp?
" O B V I O U S L Y " - Professor Snape
I'm surprised they were allowed to eat by themselves instead of having a servant chew the food for them and feed them like baby birds.
😁😂😂😂
Lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ew! Sounds gross. 😝
One king had this done but only because of his severe jaw deformity, Charles II of Spain.
Cheyenne Rhodes I feel like there are several food preparations n methods that could have been done to soften food before resorting to a servant chewing it up for him
Five minutes of that and I'd have joined the French Revolution.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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augh, you barbarian. I'd LOVE it!! To dine with people hoping you'd look at them, giving food and drink before THEY could eat, what's not to like?
I suppose if the courtiers are fighting for the “privilege” of helping you with the napkins, helping you out of the bath, etc., then they wouldn’t have time to plot against you.
Pretty clever when you think about it.
Not really. It was never the nobles they needed to worry about, the French Revolution proved that.
@@arynrowland862 It was both. The peasants had the numbers but the noblemen had the money. There were a lot of attacks on the throne by noblemen before Versailles became the seat of power.
I just same think
@@arynrowland862 Then again, most monarchs that were killed were actually assassinated by people close to them, be it family or other nobles, who sought to overthrow them for the throne and power rather than common folk that was fed up with them.
No però ha complottato il popolo. 😂
The ironic thing about Versailles is that, in the reign of Louis XIV, it saved France from plunging into another civil war. From a young age, King Louis developed a great hatred for the aristocracy, largely on account of their rebelliousness. In creating Versailles, he was able to keep all the aristocrats in one place and thus control them. All the ceremonies (like the one above) may seem absurd to contemporary eyes, but they were key to diverting the attention of the nobles away from political schemes that would threaten the King's authority.
The problem with Versailles came after the reign of the Sun King. While I cannot be exactly sure, I do not think Louis XV or XVI understood what the palace's real political function was. Instead of using it to control the aristocracy, they saw the perpetuation of its formalities as valuable purely because those formalities were established by their great ancestor. In addition to this, both Louis XV and XVI lacked their predecessor's resolution; put simply, Louis XIV was perfectly happy to tell his aristocrats to "get lost", while his successors were quite unoffending. As a consequence these two factors, the nobles were able to use the isolation that Versailles gave them to combat the King's attempts at reform through the use of pressure and manipulation, a fact which would lead to the revolution. In essence, Versailles went from being a gilded prison for the nobles to a prison for the King.
The King some years later to his nobles: "And that was the longest conversation we ever had in our marriage, glad it was over quickly, it felt eternal".
I know this movie got backlash but I love it! My favorite part was
"This is Versailles!"
In response to her saying the protocol to get dressed in the a.m was ridiculous.
What does your father do?
Oh he has the privilege and honour of.... Watching the king eat breakfast..
I’ve learned to appreciate this movie the older I get. Marie never matured beyond a teenager so her reality and focused intentions never went beyond what a teens would. Hence the focus on fashion, parties, and a complete disregard for the suffering of the French people.
Journalists lie today and they certainly lied back then. Monarchies are far better than whatever Talmudic ruling idiocy we have ruling over us today.
French people French people. What about the slaves who were powering their freaking empire
@@JP-br4mx this comment wasn't about slaves so go be a clown somewhere else
@@JP-br4mx so was the French common class NOT starving because the upper class had slaves? Good grief, life can suck wherever you are.
@@JP-br4mx glad we had an empire. Why don’t you complain about the african kingdoms that were selling the slaves to begin with, and whose economies were entirely based on slavery and slave trade ?
France was never that reliant on slaves. We abolished slavery inside France during the middle ages.
And guess also who abolished slavery in Africa ? France and Great Britain mostly.
Nowadays, people eat like Marie Antoinette breakfast and make sure that everyone see the breakfast by posting it on Instagram
Those types of people are very insecure and full of it.
HAHAHA this comment is so underrated
Really.. i havent looked at it that way but its amazingly somewhat the same!
Nowadays celebrities: "I don't have any privacy. U paparazzis r suck."
French nobles: "Oh u little newbie."
It feels like eating at a all year round family gathering 😂😂
I never mind eating in front of my family. Eating in public generally does bother me, so that's what I relate the scene to as those Nobles are complete strangers to Marie Antoinette.
I'm in bed under the covers thinking about how this scene has made me more of an introvert. I want to be even more reclusive now. Ugh.
Ew
They're so EXTRA with how they serve the Dauphin and his wife. Plus, Marie was just trying to get to know him and he's a jerk
He was SHY, not a jerk.
He didn't know much about women and didn't want to be manipulated by her
He was very shy and only fifteen when they were married
He was probably mentally disabled....
I’m shy as all hell too lol
Louis XVI an absolute monarch couldn’t dismiss nobles from staring at his breakfast . That’s a French absolute King for you .
But you miss the point. They aren't watching the King.. Le Roí was watching them
@@ladycharlenegrace8023
Le Roi *No 14* Watched them and was a constant threat and could control people . Le Roi *No 16* was the one who was being watched by his la nobelese and being gossiped about . Source of Endless Entertainment the king and his family was .
A French absolute king, like Louis XIV? The longest reigning monarch of all time? A little envious of France, aren't we?
@@ladycharlenegrace8023 wrong. Louis XIV watched them. They watched Louis XVI.
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 Wrong. Lol
you miss the meaning of "watch". No one" watched" the king as the king "watched" them. They surely were not watching the king for treason and betrayal.
Observing him to make sure they have towed the line.
that must be the most awkward time of their day, the breakfast.
No, in the morning, when they just woke up.
@Daisy Sauce! Bill Cosbys Quaalude Cocktail! So they didn't bother to give the food to the starving poor? No wonder a revolution happened
lunchs and dinners were like that too
Lol.. Here's the kicker... the bedding ceremony! Yeah ain't some Game of Thrones stuff, it was real.
@@AbrahamLincoln4 Well everyone did charities back then giving bread to the poor and stuff but of course that doesn't change the fact that they had everything while the poor ones barely had their food to eat. The difference of wealth was so great that little did those charities do for the public. Plus that time was the time of Absolute Monarchy, something that didn't exist even in middle ages. It means that the king was ruling without constitution and without laws per se. To put it simply he could do as he pleased or at least as long as he wasn't upsetting the other nobles because he still needed them.
All the food and drinks in this movie looks so delicious 🤤
Between this, The Crown, and every single movie about Henry the VIII’s wives, I’m thinking that being royalty is pure torture
It certainly had its highs and lows. Not dying of hunger was a huge plus, but it certainly wasn't easy, especially since you risk losing everything all the time.
Now you know those 2 will not finish all of that food...meanwhile, the starving poor...
Hence why there was a revolution
@@evewaterhouse9869 Exactly!! 😉
@@evewaterhouse9869 The revolution was not started by the poor, but rather rich people who weren't nobility. Capitalists and academic elites who hated the king. Poor people suffered due to the economic recession and ancient market system which no longer worked in 18 century France. But a considerable amount of poor people still loved their king even when Parisians beheaded him.
The leftovers would definitely have been eaten by the kitchen staff or lower nobles or somebody. Even working in a restaurant, you serve whatever is in danger of going to waste for family meal.
It was their command economy that caused so much suffering. The cost of the government (including the court) was actually tiny compared to modern times in percentage of total GDP.
fun fact louis the 16th wasnt gay he had a condition where every time he got arroused he suffered immense pain and would pass out thats why he didnt look at women but this was later fixed when he had finally told his doctor about it and it was fixed thats when he had his kids
Damn, what an anomaly.
It's like talking to men on dating sites! :D
Lol anyone else notice how she looks at her bowl of soup and his plate full of full and is like "...oh".
That was what she was known to prefer anyway. She always ate lightly for breakfast.
Imagine if everyone is watching you, even when you eat, or wear something. I can't even put some beans inside my mouth on that situation
forget about eating. Their bowel movements were public property, too
1:36
Louis the XVI is so cute! The real one would regard this actor for getting the introversion and awkwardness that the late King felt in the first time he met the Madame la Dauphine.
Finally someone who understands!!! Jason did a fantastic job playing Louis. Also He Was Really Adorable Playing The Little Shy Cinnamon Roll
@samantha ssmith He was also overweight
I really wanted a more dramatic historically accurate movie about them.
I agree. The filmography is beautiful but the actor's lines are so unrealistic. The phrase that killed me was MA's "it is ok" after several unsuccessful attempts to have sex. Really?
Soledad Ferrer it seems more like a comedy than real life history.
@@kelliecostello4188 so true.
This film is intentionally anachronistic. The director never meant for it to be a 'serious historical drama'
@@soledadferrer1325 YOU DUMB BITCH. SOFIA MEANT TO MAKE A FILM ABOUT TEENAGE LIFE. THAT'S HER USUAL THEME.
Louis XIV succefully castrated the Nobility with this system, and castrated his successor with debts.
Because Marie Antoinette.
@@LetrasEsFr Nah, the French are pretty frivoulous with their spending. All resources were diverted to Versailles, no investion toward agricultural or urban development are made, a single famine destroy centuries old society and uprotted everything.
his successor looking at the bills. - I want to die.
"And you enjoy making keys?"
"Obviously...."
I've never seen such interesting conversation..... Makes me want to slap him, seriously.
Well he was shy and you can’t force a shy person to speak and he was really socially awkward
It was a dumb question lol
She obviously didn't care for it, so they let her eat cake.
It wasn't cake in the original.it was 'brioche', something like a soft bun.
Betty Dunn Also, she never actually said that.
And the original quote was “let them eat brioche”, but it originated years before Marie Antoinette was even alive, possibly having been first uttered by Madame de Maintenon.
@@betty5064 lol I saw this while literally eating a brioche
Please, she is a person who should get respect, not laughing
Back then cake didn't mean the dessert we know today. In those times "cake" meant the burned bread crust that spilled over the edges of the baking pan. Learned that in World history class years ago. So when she said "Let them eat cake" She meant let them eat burned food scraps.
Shit man, I just wanted a stack of pancakes and lots of bacon. Where's the Sunny D?
Karl Lieck - Exactly. 🤦🏻♀️
"Peasant!" lol......jk!!!! A stack of pancakes and some bacon sounds just PERFECT about now!!!! ☺
You can't eat like that as French royalty. You need to be a Hungarian or Bavarian aristocrat for the hardy breakfasts.
This it's like a living hell for an introvert 😂😂😂
IMAGINE HOW LOUIS FELT...
no but seriously I’d only imagine how much he hated that. Especially with such a extroverted wife.
As I stand here, breakfast burrito in hand (.walking not smothered).......
Though its a bit obscured by time, this will always be one of my favourite historical period movies.
It was ahead of its time.
bad: everyone is looking and judging your every move
good: *a e s t h e t i c*
The entire court was entitle to know every detail every move
How they dressed, what color was the kings hat, what type of shoes the queen was wearing, everything!
Everyone’s saying they would be stressed to eat with so many people watching. Low key me too but if I’m getting fed a spread like THAT then I’m tucking a napkin in my shirt and going to town 🤣🤣
Lol, I like that spirit
They seem so polite and kindhearted but it was really brutal times
I went to the palace of Versailles when I was in paris the wealth was unreal, how these people could eat and live so lavishly while other people starved is beyond me.😢😢but nothing has changed the rich get richer while the poor pay their taxes.
@Reghan Correct. Versailles took many, many years to build, and, I might add, look at other kingdoms. How many palaces/ castles are under the residence of the British royals?
Marie Antoinette really was an Austrian at heart; however, the French court dictated dress, manners, up to the point where she produced heirs. By then, her enemies had severely damaged her reputation, particularly as she had made friends with Princesse de Lamballe (who was murdered horribly in 1792 by thugs). I honestly think there was a better way to have gone about the Revolution, without the murders of many innocent people, particularly women and children.
@@ohcanada8084 revolution doesn't change things they makes things worse and there's no point in wanting better revolutions when they evolved into all out anarchy and chaos.
During a brief exchange at breakfast, the King confirms that he does, in fact, like to have fun.
When you have a rich and yet boring life
That’s probably how she felt
May 67 omg so sad 😭
In her letters, Marie-Antoinette complained that she was so busy all the time, although she was not doing anything at all! The great void and boringness of her life was so meticulously planned and ceremoniously elaborated that it took hours to accomplish... nothing noteworthy!
@@princevesperal Queen Charlotte (George III’s wife) also complained about this in her letters, but at least her marriage to George was a happy one. (Until the onset of his mental illness at least)
@@meganthomas4768 It was especially harsh in Versailles! Which is why the Queen found refuge in the Little Trianon, where protocol did not apply. There, she was "off-duty", and could enjoy life with her friends.
@@princevesperal oh no doubt, the French monarchy was far more intense both politically and ceremoniously than the British were (the Brits would have serious competition if the French monarchy was still around). George and Charlotte were at least allowed to eat breakfast alone.
Never in my life have I been so grateful to be a peasant lmfao
The Kings before him spent much much more money than these two did. They spent money on their mistresses. It was just a bad luck that when they took the throne, the treasury is almost empty. Another thing is that Marie Antoinette was a Queen, they got used to Queens being modest while the mistresses gets the lavish lifestyle, so when Marie Antoinette acted like those mistresses they started to hate her.
So unfair to the queens, watching their husbands chest and the women they cheat on them with get a lavish and extravagant life, while they deal with stupid men who are running a whole country and half the time aren’t great at it or aren’t great at their marriage.
@Matt Libra King Louis XVI never had a mistress he was to shy to even consummate his marriage to his own wife let alone a mistress. He was literally laughed at for not having a mistress as having a mistresses was a full on job at Versailles
I wouldn't be able to eat any of it.
I'd be yawning too much.
Heck, I'd just take my plate and eat it my bedchambers. Can you imagine eating in a buffet with *everyone* staring at you?
La royauté est trop stressante pour moi.
@@jomarivelasco5260 Oh the SCANDAL! XD
@@ARedMagicMarker I know right. I can already imagine all the aristocrats looking at my back.
"Ugh! He has no manners at all, that man!"
True luxury is being able to live how you want. That's how you define it in the 21st century- my house. My rules. My way (from crazy cat lady in trackpants to bloggers living in villas) AND thank God for that!!!!
Yeah, anyone can't live with all that sheer pressure on them, like the eyes of every single being in the world were judging every little thing you do.
The French were so extra, I love it!
The russians were extra extra extra and the gulf between their nobility and poor was enormous!!
That “extra” is what got them killed.
Louis and Antoinette certainly didn't
She was just fourteen when she married Louis and he was fifteen and when his father died I think he was nineteen and she eighteen, so they both had no clue about running a country so they both did as they were told by advisers and it led to them being executed for their trouble
As a royal introvert, this is too painful to watch.😂😂😂
I’d rather live like that than be a French peasant
I'd rather be beheaded than live like that or be a French peasant.
The best thing to be would be a lord and lady with your own estate.
I'd rather live as a French peasant so I don't get executed
Bored Ramen Hair not during the reign of terror 💀
@@Sashimi_Boy2404 Thousands of the peasants were executed during the Revolution, too. After a certain point it sort of became a free for all.
petit déjeuner Avec marie Anttoinette
I'd be like "just give me some f#@king toast!"
Lol! 😁
Madame Etiquette would not approve!
😂
La royauté est trop stressante pour moi.
Heck, I'd just take my plate and eat it in my bedchambers.
@@jomarivelasco5260 You eat in your bedchamber too😂?
Parte of her problem. She was always fighting to escape these detalles. But there were reasons that they were there.
* Has a bowl of potato chips in bed, alone in her room for breakfast*
I pity poor Antoinette
She deserved much better
Everyone saying how awful this is and I’m just over here eyeing the food.
Same dude
Marie Antoinette as Vlogger:
Anyone interested should read Antonia Frasier's biography of Marie Antoinette.
isn't the movie also based on that book?
Salamura Yes.
@@jmarie9997 an even better book is Marie Antoinette: The Last Queen of France by Évelyne Lever
The guy who played Louis XVI carried it out just- 👌😶
Who would really want to live like that?
And why does Everything seem like its in slow motion?
Who wouldn't want to live like that in the 1700s?
The one thing I can think of, during this whole thing, is: This is visually stunning. But I bet that when this happened back in the day, the whole place reeked of sewage and filth, and no amount of prettiness could take away from that.
Not the hole place. Parts of it and certainly not in the dining room.
It didn't as much as you think. During the building of Versailles, yes, there were areas where the workers would pee and poop in a corner, but they didn't have chemical toilets, you know... But the palace had bathrooms and Marie Antoinette was very well known for her daily baths, a habit she had from her past life. Sure they wouldn't bathe as much as we do today, but my mom always tell me that up until the 70s people just stank more because they used to bathe once a week or even less. But at least the rooms in Versailles were big and had large windows, so I guess it wasn't so hard to have some good air circulation... Unlike buses in the 70s.
The real issue would have been the tons of stagnant water
That looks like hell to me.
Seeing this, I'm not surprised she got a cottage to live. A luxury cottage, yes, but it was a cottage.
It was a way to get out of this, that's for sure.
I love this movie so much! 😊
The Dauphin probably had ADHD or ADD. I remember being 15 and being absolutely useless when it came to talking to women.
Probably not. He was 15/16 and just married a total stranger
I bet you mini/micron does not like the yellow vests.
The look on her face at the end says it all! "What have I gotten myself into?" Not that she had any say in the matter but you can just tell that is is annoyed and uncomfortable and doesn't fit in. I feel so bad for her.
0:12 You see? Atleast some people speak French in this movie.
I think he said “First service for the king” or something
:/
Really. That’s it?
If i am eating and so many people are watching me , i will get an indigestion
man i can barely walk straight when one person looks at me, god knows how id feel with hundreds of people staring at me while i eat
Kirsten Dunst height of 5'6/5'7 is an accurate representation of the stature of Marie Antoinette. However Louis XVI was arounf 6 ft 1 to 6 ft 4' in height, one of the tallest French kings ever. Not an accurate portrayal like so many movies that intentionally cast a shorter actor to "portray" lack of presence.
Louis XVI had physical presence but he lacked political and acumen presence. The Sun King Louis XIV was short but he had the political nous and the acumen to be a top leader.
Louis XVI with a hat for lunch?!?! Ah ah, these American producer are so funny!!!
If you all may feel discomfort when you are enjoying your food with all eyes on you.
Remember one thing...
"This.. madame.. is Versailles"
So true! 😝 Got the shivers just reading that!
I’d be way too nervous to eat anything with everyone watching and judging my every move.
I would have been so mad if I had to not put down my water glass and only sip it a little and put it back on a tray. You need a ton of water!
Now i get why Coppola signed Kristen Dunst for this role.
She´s smiling the whole movie!!!! She took everything jokingly,
It was not be for lowerly. The measures of etiquette in Versailles bordered on the ridiculous.
There's a game about this... I can't believe the developers were able to capture how alien Marie felt every time Louis refused to let her know him, the alien feeling eventually turning to stress and frustration as time passed on. It's addictive, and I just want to keep playing it and NOT have them all get guillotined in the end (it's interactive with multiple endings).
What is it called ?
@@licoricebear5864 Dress up Time Princess I think
@@togamicchi6691 thank you !
How my Sunday Brunches are 😂
Lord the speed of how things were done would have killed me.
Eating breakfast with that music alone would make me anxious
Poor Marie! Bless her simple heart!
Lol so ironical
@@lovesosweet4474 hehehe
@@lovesosweet4474 what's ironical? That because she's rich she's still not very smart? Or is it that she's a queen but slow on the uptake?
@@ladycharlenegrace8023
Because "simple heart" doesn't really apply to her since she would spend a lot of money in extravagant clothes and jewelry
@@lovesosweet4474, well that's what they get for letting a 15 year old to the royal household of france.
Me: as queen I command you to stop watching me eat...please.
She would not disrespect her husband like that.
All the good food means nothing if I have to eat it like this.
I love manners they had
And that's how you keep a noblesse under control ... (and allow the bourgeoisie lead a revolution lol)
Yeah, the old sun king sort of shot himself in the foot there. Though, he wasn't alive to reap the consequences.
Oh back in the day when Kirsten was so cute. She was so pretty as Mary Jane, and had a sweet voice.
this is so depressing....imagine them having real hunger...
Getting served everyday and watch is unnerving
Beautiful movie! One of my favorits... 👍🏻
But so sad. I cant read more about her its so sad
imagine if you were really hungover and that was the only water they gave you
This scene was so funny ;but i couldn t handle it honestly.😂🧐
two sips of water for breakfast?! 😅
Mary Antoinette hated eating in public so much she hardly touched her food.
I would feel like the main attraction in a zoo if I had to eat a meal like that.
Actually, I would have loved tasting the food they were being served. I never was a picky eater and liked to try new dishes.
Until you got a bit that was flavored with extra poison. 🥴☠️
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