Reading & Northern 2102 Nearly Stalls at East Mahanoy Junction!
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With fallen leaves and wet rails, Reading & Northern 2102 had difficulty holding the rail on her northbound trip to Jim Thorpe with the railroad's Autumn Colors Excursion. Approaching East Mahanoy Junction on the over 1% grade the speed dropped to a walking pace as engineer Shane Fredrickson fought the slick conditions. With the booster cut in they started to gain speed again and crested the grade at Haucks at a better pace. Enjoy!
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Now THIS is the stuff right here!
Just found out that there was an issue with the booster's main throttle valve that wasn't corrected until after the last trip the first weekend of November lol. That means that while the booster is indeed cut in, it's only receiving steam through the preliminary booster throttle valve and not actually adding any additional tractive effort. That makes this what's recorded here even more impressive!
Yes, but why did he leave them cut in if they are not working. Looks like a lot of wasted steam.
@@viktordubowskii695 a locomotive that lost a lot of speed quickly still has a monstrous fire going so I bet they had plenty enough steam.
I remember the Ill-fated Gettysburg trip when we stalled on the grade and had to have two diesels pull us up the grade an hour later. The booster wasn't working. Charlie Kachel was at the throttle that day. Charlie was looking down from Heaven and saying well done Shane, I taught you well.
What year was that?
@@victordubowski1276 I think it was 1987.
Ohhh yes! I was there! On the ground at Wolf Pit, just south of Gardners, the O2 was north bound, backing, no booster, returning from Gettysburg, This was at Pond Road crossing?
I believe Gettysburg’s Alco was leading. They reached the foot of the grade and were hit with a downpour of rain? Am I right? The 02 was violently slipping. When the rounded the corner near the crossing the crew was in the front footboard of the diesel pouring sand from bags???? So long ago!
Southbound I recalling seeing Charlie through the cap window on his feat, both hands on the throttle.
The track condition was not good on the Gettysburg then and they could not get speed, as I recall, rumor had it they were afraid the 02 could go on the ground. Could have been foamer jabber.
These videos do not give justice to how loud the 02 is when under these load conditions. I think the huge smokebox acts like a kettle drum….you must be there, bet you can feel the booming concussions in your chest!
Thank you for sharing!…this reminds me of Wolf Pit!
The booster isn't really working here either; the main booster throttle valve was stuck closed apparently so the booster was only receiving steam through the preliminary throttle valve which is used to idle the device in preparation for its use. So while the booster is technically engaged, it's not actually adding any additional tractive effort here. The issue wasn't fixed until after the last fall foliage trip in November.
@@victordubowski1276 1988 with the 1985 Ramble whistle. Its a great audio recording to listen too in the workshop or playing model trains. She stalled on the return as well but the Alco was there fighting the hill with her. Great train ride
those 4-8-4 Northerns are just Beautiful
If my memory is correct old Reading Railroad engineers used to complain the T-1's were too light on the drivers.
really making shane work in there. love the shot at haucks.
Good test for 2102 getting through that still unassisted.
EXCELLENT video. I was on this beauty and felt the slowing, driver slip, grab, slip, lurch as the sanding took place. We almost stopped, then needing an assist from our SD's following and a nail biter. Now I see what was happening as I was too far back in the consist to hear any exhaust notes. It was an EPIC journey, still sends chills down by back as I think of it. Thanks for posting. 👏👏
Pro tip: Port Clinton passengers get the front two cars.
But they miss out on the 15 miles from Reading.
Great catch, especially with the wheel slips and stack talk too!
Well the booster sure did its job! Nothing worse than oily (there is a rail greaser down the line) mixed curved rail with dew and leaves. I'm sure Tyler will remove one or two coaches next trip so she has a easier time. The T1 also have messed up equalization. The Reading tipped driver weight back onto the trailing truck so they didn't have to pay engine crews extra on each trip when these locos came out. Crews were paid by the weight on the drivers for each trip on freight. Passenger and Pusher service was by the hr. Its why 2102 surfboards at 55+ mph. Gotta love those cheap PA Berks County Dutchman. If they ever correct the equalization on 2102 she'll have alot fewer instances of this sort. But nobody ever has to my knowledge she was that way from the 1940s-1990s. All and all she's still my favorite girl on the rails.
That train was sold out with 18 coaches. I don't think they can bring it down to 17 or 16 easily.
@@JBS319 Borrow some NJT double deck coaches...and watch die hard fans scream at the site in horror.
So wait...the crews were literally paid more or less based on the size of the engine of their train?? (well yes more specifically the weight on the drivers). Thats something i've never heard before. Still, it seems kind of counter-productive. They are also reducing the tractive effort if they are reducing weight on drivers, like they don't want their engines to be as powerful. 🤷♂🤷♂
@@Roon3808 yep the Reading decided rather than have a new higher payscale they reduced the weight on the drivers reducing the tractive effort and kept trains the same length. 2100 test runs she pulled 200-250 cars unassisted but the Reading kept them at 150. The T1s were more about speeding up freight trains above 50mph. Their other motive power was doing 45 and below for freight at the time. Usually below. It was their passenger trains that ran at very high speeds. Only Amtrash comes close along the Harrisburg line and above on the NE Corridor of the PRR. NS usually plods along from Philly to Reading especially in the towns. The fallen flags did not.
@@JBS319 Every excursion so far as sold out. Was the snack car in the middle of the train eliminated?
R.I.P. Belt Line Productions (TJ) he was definitely gone way too soon.
Excellent video😃⤴️⤴️Very cool locomotive and wonderful scenery😉👍️✨Thank you for sharing :)
Bahut acchi train hai good job train
Love the observation car.
It's amazing to see something that weights over 200 tons have wheel slip. Plenty of power, not enough friction.
It is very enjoyable to see steam locomotives in operation in modern era railroading, the 2102 was really struggling with traveling through the territory but it successfully completed the journey. The excessive wheel slippage is a sign that a locomotive is having difficulty hauling a train/ traveling through a specific section of territory and Reading 2102 put on an enjoyable performance despite the struggling performance. I am very satisfied that one of the four surviving Reading rr t1 class 4-8-4 locomotives has been returned to operation, I enjoy seeing video footage of Reading & Northern rr 2102 in service.
Like we need more a reason to love steam?🤩😍😋
Wow!! Cool video!! Glad she kept going !!
Great catch!
Booster helped keep her moving forward.
Very cool video! The wheelslip is neat!
Hey remember when 759 stalled on devils hole with the Scranton flyer in 1971
Spectacular photography!
my cousin and i where on this magnificent steam engine--too many passenger cars made for a traction problem but ! She got us there! thats AMERICA
cousin Dave K and i were on that train
Awesome
Wonder if he was dealing with wet-leaf covered tracks?
Yep. It rained in the morning and there was leaves all over the tracks
Great video.👍
I was riding on that 2102 run
you rock for getting this on video
some of those older passenger cars may have the drive wheels dragging or not really lubed up for a 2 hr trip
What a work out. I didn’t see any sand though.
There is DEFINITELY sand. Look more closely at where the first driver meets the railhead.
I have seen video of nkp 765 having problems with slipping back in 1990 on the new river train 765 was pulling about 14 more passenger cars
The title of the dvd is runnin that new river train
Remember that the ruling grade on the Kanawha and New River Subdivisions is much lower than it is here in this video. That means the same engine will be able to pull a much longer train on the New River without being in danger of stalling.
@@FanRailer true but also I believe 765 can accelerate faster then 2102
Wheel slip = Flat rail burns !!
Conquest!
Was this the usual trip to Jim Thorpe? I went on the 1st one in May and they didn't have this issue. Very few if any wheel slips.
Being in May, there probably wasn't leaf residue on the rails. Wet leaves are an Engineer's worst nightmare.
What is the grade on that hill?
goes up to 1.4%
Good video
i also do content like that
Man i dont see diesels doing burnouts like this lmao
This totally reminds me of a moment with NKP 765! Similar but epic sounding.
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What’s the point of making it pull to many cars causing it to slip and stall?
.... it didn't stall
@@FanRailer
Sure had a lot of wheel slip
@@mikesuprys it’s common for some steam locomotives to have issues while climbing grades, 2102 is a very powerful steam locomotive for it’s class so she’s really just dealing with the wet leaves from the storm. But in all reality that’s nothing for 2102, if i’m correct she can pull a lot more than that and still have highball speeds
2102 is more than capable of pulling this many cars. It's mainly the fact the rails are slippery on top of a steep grade with these cars in tow
to much-a lot of passenger cars