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- Russia has been steadily expanding its influence in Africa. What does Nigeria make of the Kremlin’s moves?
DW’s Sarah Kelly spoke about that with the country’s foreign minister, Yusuf Tuggar in a special Conflict Zone from the Berlin Global Dialogue. How does he see Nigeria stepping up its leadership role, while it confronts coups on its doorstep, foreign powers positioning for influence on the continent, the conflict in Sudan and citizens leaving Nigeria because of economic and security fears.
Chapters.
00:00 Intro
01:00 How does Nigeria reassert influence in West Africa?
03:45 ECOWAS: the “toothless bulldog” & the Sahel alliance
06:05 Coups and Russian influence in Africa
07:45 Kremlin assurances & strategice autonomy
09:50 Boko Haram abductions in Nigeria
14:20 Civil war in Sudan and Nigerian diaspora
18:00 Foreign influence in Sudan
19:55 Nigerians fleeing economic situation
21:08 Protests in Nigeria
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" is that what you need? The bloodshed, the chaos,...." Good awareness on his side.
The factor behind the coups in West Africa has been the failure of governments to cater for the needs of the people. Nigeria has to learn from these coups, if it must maintain its democracy.
What democracy?
@@obinnaezealah2465 Western democracy is a trojan horse.
What is France , British and USA doing in Africa, do you believe still Africa under European colonial
rme..
He asked her not to interrupt him when he is answering, but immediately goes ahead and interrupt her consistently. You would expect a Diplomat to be chilled, answer smartly and also smoothly but Dude was unnecessarily trying hard to control the interview. This was so uncomfortable to watch.
She was trying to paint a picture of his country. Watch his previous interviews, he’s never answered like this.
@@Therealclips-ib8bmconflict zone is designed to ask tough questions, see their other broadcasts. This guy just doesn’t know how to debate. It also doesn’t convince anyone, just the opposite.
@@loddiecamomileparrotjournalists are not supposed to put words in the mouth the person they are interviewing
@@bulthaosen1169 that’s what all journalists try to do, if they are wrong then the person being interviewed should have no issues correcting the record rather than having a tantrum like a little child.
@@loddiecamomileparrot it's an interview. Not a debate. I think you are confusing the two.
It's refreshing to see African leaders being more assertive during interviews when journalists try to corner them, and advance preconceived talking points and narratives. African today is not the same Africa of 20 years ago.
Yeah Africa is not the same as 20 years ago, it is worse.. how has our economy gone? It has worsen, you think it makes you more a Patriotic citizen?
Call out things for what they are, the guy is sick in the head to say that majority of Nigerians are leaving in peace, in fact, he is mad to say that, it is an abuse to all the recent protests we have been engaged in, two national protests in Nigeria in less than 6 months.
probably it's even worse..
Very undiplomatic for a diplomat. Maybe she asked all the wrong questions, but this man has no business representing the largest population in Africa. Very rude and insulting.
You can only be diplomatic with another diplomat. Unfortunately, journalists sometimes need to be treated the way he treated her. But I think he could have tried to interrupt her less.
What do you even understand about diplomatic engagement? Listen to him objectively and you will learn. A diplomat must at all times defend his country particularly from this bias journalist who are always in a hurry to denigrate Nigeria and Africa at large.
What do you even understand about diplomatic engagement? Listen to him objectively and you will learn. A diplomat must at all times defend his country particularly from this bias journalist who are always in a hurry to denigrate Nigeria and Africa at large.
You are wrong to your grave!
I do miss when Nigeria militarily intervened in the region kept western and eastern influence to a minimum as soon as she stopped the us,Europe, Russia and China started to pour in without constraint
True, the root cause like he stated was France’s failure in the Sahel (the fourth strongest military spent 20 years fighting a small group of fandits) and the NATO’s bringing down of the gaddaffi’s regime. Even though he said that like that. It’s the truth.
Because a lot of terrorist organization spread throughout the Sahel due to that.
Note that the criminals you called "small bandit's" are crossing borders to attack villages, remember the capital of mali was attacked recently even with presence of Russia forces, is not easy to end terrorism overnight.
@@Kogitesolar That’s dishonest. With France the issue was getting consistently worse
A serious Burkina Faso was able to do so much in just 2 years.
A serious Nigeria has been able to 🪦 almost all of them. In fact they’ve been reduced from fandit groups to nothing. I heard they’re fighting amongst each other now. They want to surrender because the Nigerian military is now taking it seriously. Over the coming month or years, they’d get fewer and fewer.
But then France, the 4th strongest military spent 20 years worsening the situation. Be honest with yourself. France wasn’t there to protect them.
The guy is overly defensive.
He's leaning towards Russia, that's where the tension is coming from. The West is on the verge of losing Africa for good.
Western journalist's are CIA agent's, you need to be offensive and defensive when dealing with them
If you knew the history of his country you too will be, turn the table around
He supposed to. The west who are the sponsor of the conflict. Pretend to shift the blame to his country Nigeria. how do you suppose him to respond. They are trying to blame Russia who has never oppressed Africa in Africa. instead has been a good friend. While the west since their entrance into Africa has been caois,
@@Gregg-f1dyou’re probably the most ignorant I’ve seen commenting this morning, those Nigeria have any signed collaboration or agreement with western nations? Do our army train together? How many western businesses are here? How many Nigerian businesses have franchise in western countries? The only relationship exist is master and servant, they tell us what they want us to do in exchange for loans and grants we get from them, if you think relationship with Russia will mean any better for Africa then think again. No country will help you become a super power, if you want to roll with the big boys you’ve got to bring something to the table, Nigeria and the entire Africa as a whole need to sit together and think of what they can offer to the west, to Asia, and other continents, to be recognized and treated with respect… But the problem with Africa as a whole is that this country’s will never agree to unit themselves and merge their resources together.
Our own honourable minister of foreign Affairs nigeria🇳🇬❤
I love this Nigeria minister❤ 👏 😅😅
My word, if he can’t conduct himself with some level of statesmanlike decorum, he should avoid doing these interviews.
He's just being defensive.
@@Therealclips-ib8bm Western journalists always do that with non-White people. Nothing new.
Agreed. Hard to listen and watch
@@masterlightjames950 He needs to learn being defensive with basic respect
She is one of the biased western journalists who have not much knowledge
He should resign, even Putin has never behaved this hawkish. We have better intellects in Africa
Naija 🇳🇬 no de carry last. I love this guy for not letting her push a narrative
you have GOT to be kidding..
Well done they don’t like your answers but Africa have to be united, and no space for enemies
He’s not lying every intervention Nigeria has done was a successful
Yes it was successful. Under military rule. Now Nigeria can't quell insecurities plaguing the Nation. Sad.
@@ikhalilali1215 yeah that was due to western and eastern intervention and interference using Africa as a staging ground for their strategic competition
This guy shouldn't represent anyone , he can't answer any question properly without arguing
He spoke genuinely, but I don't like the way he interrupted, seems like he's angry. That's not diplomatic at all
She was being disrespectful and he couldn't keep his cool in responding to her. He needs more experience in how to deal with these jackals.
Nigeria will not prosper until men like this are removed from positions of power. It’s clear that he’s not actively involved nor does he care about fixing the issues of our people. Every question was deflected rather than addressing the very real issues we face. This is a disgrace.
Did you listen to him well? Or do you know about the problems in your surrounding countries? About what France did in the Sahel, and how the whole gaddaffi incident went down?
I don’t think you know any of that. She mentioned the security problem in your country. But in the US, about 22,000 people get 🪦 every year. So there is also that problem here too.
Did you watch this interview well?
@@Therealclips-ib8bm I am Nigerian. I know what my countries problems are.
@@SuperSaiyanEDYou obviously do not. So in your opinion, Nigeria will prosper when we allow foreign powers and journalists to control the narrative . It's a pity. That you don't like the government in power doesn't not mean you shouldn't see anything they do right. The Minister handled this foreign agent or journalist creditably.
@@kz-xv1ou Control what narrative? Nigeria is a bloody mess, full stop! Something has to change. This man is tone deaf to the needs of the average Nigerian. Why do you defend him? Are you being paid to do this? Any other reason makes you look irrational.
Can they help you?instead killing our farmers,our poeple who try to help the country,wake up.
he thinks he is a savvy diplomat, but just comes across as rude
This dude isn't a seasoned diplomat. Just a wannabe.@@Therealclips-ib8bm
Isn't it more about how something was said than what was delivered? You going on every comment said on here and trolling.
Of course he is very savvy. He prevented her from controlling the narrative. Who cares if it comes across as rude. He got the job done. He is only accountable to Nigeria not any other country.
Nothing rude here. He had an experience with her before this interview and he came ready because he understand her view of point, which is negative
Is this guy okay why is he so hostile
Because western reporters always come with the BS. Need to treat them like that so they learn to come with facts and not foolishness.
He’s not hostile, he’s counter offensive
Did you hear the things she was saying? She was trying to paint a narrative.
For example, stating the numbers of people that got jacked was to create an image. So you know, in the US about 22,000 people get 🪦 annually.
He's defensive, not hostile. Western journalists are the hostile ones.
@@masterlightjames950 it's the job of journalist to aak questions. This man has no respect, so embarrassing.
The Russian economy moves from $1.9Trillion economic system in 2022 to $6.9Trillion in just 2 year's as the largest economy in Europe and also The 4th largest in the world from No 9.
"don't interrupt me" what was that about...!!?
Cos she was interrupt him that is what it was bout
This man makes me proud , I love Nigeria
This minister was not ready to answer the questions but defending their actions.
Oga Minister, I hail o! But sah why you no give am durty slap🤣😂 The yeye fowl😂🤣😁
I de tell you baba
Omo nija to sure
Nigeria is the giant of poverty
We have no influence. Corruption is our life line 😂😂😂
@@pillycay7611 petty corruption and capital corruption are in every country-Africa's biggest problem is illegal CAPITAL FLIGHT...
@@D-E-S_8559true. And the fact that they rely on foreign countries for everything just means capital is more or less leaking out.
And this is what you’d say about your own country. I’m horrified of the idea that you’d try to move to mine.
He's not a Nigerian@@Therealclips-ib8bm
Lie lie you are not a Nigerian
Conflict zones? For sure an european power was there, spreading democracy 😅
Man, Sarah is trying so hard here to put her questions in a way which won't make this man feel insecure. This is like the gentlest "Conflict Zone" I've ever seen, yet he still feels perpetually personally attacked.
She stayed professional while pressing for answers. Great interview
Oh, it's the EU's fault, how easy. Africa is a great continent, but if they don't take over responsibility, progress will remain meager
What have the American, the French, the Italian, and the British governments been doing in Africa for the past 50 years?
For real the grap she asks, you can tell that shes been sent,
The west can go clamb a poll for once we need western sentiment in Africa we tried engaging withi this people but you can clearly see the people that sent her do care
22,000 people get 🪦 in the US annually.
😂😂😂. I was more intrigued by the personal drama going on between them both.. I can't even tell you what the subject was about anymore.😂😂
There's no positive news in Nigeria... we are all suffering
And you think there is any in mine?
@@akinwaleakinola1787 yeah keep being a western puppet
They Should Find a Room Already lol
🤣🤣🤣
he is quite patriotic.
He is definitely using the Russian playbook. Redirect questions he does not like with What-About-isms.
@@Avonidsed You don't like hypocrisy been questioned or challenged-but take a look at what-boutism can achieve, the UK are finally handing back the sovereignity of Chagos Islands to Africa, even though the US naval forces still remain in occupation of Diego Garcia, atleast theres a future pathway to have them diplomatically ousted...
Western hypocrites always get angry when you point out their hypocrisy.
Cuz it doesn’t comes your way! Typical westerners 😂😂😂
Strong man. The West journalist must ask positive questions about Africa.
Bro shes a journalist. Unless, they are biased thats not what they do. Positivity is in the realm of national public relations
weak man, bad for Nigerian image
No thank you dictator.
@@adrianwolmaransi cant be happy with those who killing my poeple,he not happy
Good job Sarah Kelly; questions can feel like criticisms if you're not able to answer them well.
Exactly!
She would never be that disrespectful towards a European MP.
Then you haven't seen much British media. British journalist are tough, confident and do not bow. Which is good.
Watch other conflict zone interviews with western politicians and then I think you'll find that you're wrong.
What is Russia doing in Africa helping Africa Tremendously the thing the West should of Decades ago thank you Russia!!
The first 5 seconds of him speaking proved him a puppet
Puppet of who? If she was able to control the narrative he would not be a puppet? So he is a puppet for defending his country so fiercely?
This sounds like the interview is with a random Nigerian person dressed in a suit, taken from the street , not with a politician
Nothing is perfect in this life, and the earlier the west realise it the better
This is one of the most unprofessional interview I have watch recently. The interviewer ought to follow the guest line of explanation and just avoid interruption
Nah, she was correct not being manipulated.
@@zebmars8944Nah. This was intentional. She was trying to affack his country
This guy is a rude bully.
Why is that Man unnecessarily aggressive 😂😂
Just look at dumb people our drug lord Tinubu is ruining Nigeria with.
What is aggressive about what he is saying? Is he supposed to allow this western journalist to control the narrative?
Because he knows they don’t want good in Africa that’s why he is cutting her off
Believe me it was the Foriegn minister that was disrespectful.
A diplomat acting as a head of state. Eventhough I frown upon her line of questions.
I do a lot of business in Turkey I’m Nigerian. Also I do a lot of business in Nigeria. Turkey is a good place to do business I support ecowas
I thank you MR. President for choosing these man
He’s doing he work he’s great
Toothless bulldog is France and US
This guy cannot answer a simple question. His skin is like rice paper. Get him out of his position, he clearly can't cut it.
Nigeria is blessed to have FM Yusuf Tuggar.
This man is sound and well knowledgeable and above all I love the way he delt with the DW staff.😂😂
Well done Sir👏
Such a very rude man!
I love this man😂
He was unprofessional and childish.
@yussuf tuggar: ask India's FM Subrahmanyam Jaishankar if he provides courses in the art of debate. If he doesn't, please look at videos of him and see how compelling his diplomatic style of communication is. Good luck
africa unite!
Imagine trusting the Russians in 2024😂😂😂
Russians are trusted around the world
Same as trusting the west. They have learnt their lessons when west intervened in africa only to leave it in more chaos due to the interventions.
Better than any other country right now... Russia needs allies, they make the best friends
Imagine trusting the west😂😂😂
@@alystero8838 Russia saved Syria from extremists and possible Libyan situation after the death of Gaddafi
Car crash interview. I think Ms Kelly could have began with a friendlier, more respectful tone. Obviously, his reactions display intense annoyance.
Conflict zone is designed to ask tough questions, see their other broadcasts. This guy just doesn’t know how to debate. Hes also not convincing anyone by doing this, just the opposite.
Don't invite back this guy.. Sad listening to him
Is it me or was this man flirting... 😅
We i hear the word democracy in Africa , i see poverty ,hunger , suffering and drugs abuse
Excellent bro
Damn he gave me a headache..
Bank of America created a platform for the denigration Nigeria, but have many Nigerians working and doing business with them. What a shame
He spoke well on foreign issues, but badly on domestic issues
Good work honorable minister. We Africans are sick and tired of Western imperial nonsense!
I am an African and to be honest this minister is a big disgrace. And he calls himself a diplomat? Oh my god! Let her finish her questions???
The same way Africans/representatives have been replying to all their questions for the past "God Knows" so that the West can prepare for whatever agendas Nigeria have? Nigerians have moved from reading books only, we are following the sermons of Western political shenanigans religiously now. Awakening the giant within "IS THE ONLY MOVE NOW"! Thanks.
Obsessed with tarnishing Russians only
This is what is supposed to be leading us in west Africa 😢😢😢AES will not come back
How did you expect him to answer those questions? Question like “are you a dog” or so? How do you answer that? Tell me, I’d like to know.
The man is brilliant
He is very rude and unprofessional.
Tinubu makes bold rhetoric on behalf of the West which is meaningless as demockery!!
Thank u mr minister Y Tuggar you represented africans very well.
Kelly should really visit places in africa as a whole to understand the facts on the ground. Protests do happen everywhere in the world so why should she focus on making noise about africans protesting?
My msg for kelly is dont rely on the internet news focus on jornalism getting facts on the ground.
> why should she focus on making noise about africans protesting?
... well because this interview is about Nigeria?
Same as when journalists interview US government representatives, they can ask about US protests. And they actually get an answer, none of this "butbutbut there was a protest in Nigeria too!"
The end impression is that Yusuf Tuggar was simply unprepared to answer these questions and thought he could get away by deflecting and insinuating.
Rude, rude lady!!!
Nah it's the opposite
@@zebmars8944Nah, it’s more complicated than that. She was intentionally trying to paint an image his country.
While he was replying overlying aggressively. So it created this situation.
Also, they both cut each other off, multiple times.
@@zebmars8944 vulhedar 😂😂😂
ECOAS as a body of States in Africa is not enshrined to take military action of member State practicing democracy. So simple!
Same thing what France and US are doing.😂😂
Is not Nigerian is Nigerien , Your title with typo error.
Love this man😊
You love someone saying Nigeria has no prob. I guess you from a rich family lol
@@akinwaleakinola1787Nigeria has its problems, but the US has its own share too. She mentioned the security problem. But that also exists in the US too. With 22,000 people getting 🪦 annually.
Less than what America doing in Germany 🤷♂️💯🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
I’m 100 percent certain this diplomat, man don’t look like Nigerian, don’t sound like Nigerian, although I like his response to this western journalist
What can't Russia do in Africa?
Good on you Sir, Mr Tuggar Yusuf FM for Nigeria. Well done 👍
Same as the rest, but potential to be worse with the weapons they are providing. West plumaged, and China put them in debt, but Russia had them fighting and killing each other.
Gaslighting in action 😂
Each one should take fheir turns to talk. Allow the other ro finish asking questions and allow the other to finish answering
I see nothing wrong about the man's behaviour.
It's hard to watch ooh no
Is this guy a diplomat? A senior one for that matter?? Come on Nigeria can do better than this. The journalist sounded more diplomatic than the diplomat😂😂 Oh Nigeria!
I wished you ask this questions when america was in central Africa and terrorist continue with it killings, what about France and america being in the Sahel for years and terrorist persist with their operation . Hypocrite
I wonder why you are using this type of microphone
I am Nigerian, but this guy is very very rude. I understand taking control of the direction of the interview, but his mannerism and conduct is totally unacceptable.
She will still ask those same questions even after her visit to 9JA, cos her internet is correct O
Non of your business.
😂this one that you downloaded from is the wrong one, she used many sources but choosed that though
They talking over each other. Nigerian MP is super defensive