I have a teenage granddaughter that has PTSD from the trauma of living with a MN step mother. I would like to watch a part 5 on that as well. Is there anything else we can do to help my granddaughter? Her mother takes her to therapy and she’s on meds for the PTSD. I do pray continually for her healing. She’s not having as many nightmares as she was having. I just wish I could do more. I don’t want to say a lot cause this is public.
Earthen Vessels on TH-cam has many videos about how to heal but if you're not a Christian you will not like what she has to say. In a nutshell, you have to forgive them to free yourself from the evil entanglement. And you have to figure out why they chose you as a victim and work on that weakness or weaknesses.
Agree! I've been divorced from a covert narcissist who was slipping into malignant for 20+ years. I still dread the rare times that I need to be at the same celebration with this man - graduations, weddings, etc. His very presence spoils any event as I'm expected by our adult children to be civil. Years of therapy did little to heal or change the damage done by him. Listening to Dr Ramani & to you, Dr Phil, is far more helpful. Yes, please do a Part 5(& 6...7?) for those who need help afterwards. Even 20 years after. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and hard-earned wisdom with us in very clear words. 🙏
My experience of being raised by one and entire family - blocked all of them for the most part and dug into research and did grief therapy, became my own best friend and am on my healing journey. It takes time, and work, but so worth it. Stay strong and believe in and be in love with yourself ♥️🌹🖤🦋
😂Best line (and advice!) ever: "there MAY be someone out there able to crack the narcissist code, but assume that person is not you." Thank you, Dr. Phil!!!❤
From my own experience, the best part of Dr. Phil's advice is to not give them another chance once you've escaped. They have already shown you who they are. They will say and do anything to try and regain your trust but it's all a sham. They are incapable of change. Also if you plan to leave an abusive relationship with a malignant narcissist, don't telegraph your plans ahead of time! Make sure you are safe and have a safe place to go. Don't leave your kids behind, thinking "oh he won't hurt them." You don't know that. Above all, don't drop the charges, if there are any. Get that protection order. I've learned too much the hard way.
I left over 2 years ago, I am a Desert Storm Veteran and I tell everyone that I would rather be back over seas with a spork then spend one minute with my ex narc. I am 56 years old and have witnessed many horrible things in my travels but I have never, ever been so emotionally and mentally dismantled. I used to poke fun at the fact that a man would accuse a woman of domestic violence.I can now say with the upmost certainty that I no longer find it funny. I now do believe that we all possess a soul, and that the only woman I have ever truly loved intentionally,maliciously and without feeling or remorse litterly bled my soul dry. I am no longer the man I once was! This has changed the way I look at EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE!! To anyone dealing with a narc, GET OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!! GOOD LUCK TO ALL!
"Don't take the bait", truer words were never more spoken. My response to them when they try to bait me to defend myself or explain, is, " whatever gets you through the day."
My line is "Knock yourself out!" But I usually say it when they walk out of the room. 🤣😂 "Do not rejoice because demons are subject unto you, but because your name is written in The Lamb's Book of Life." Rejoice in your love for God and all His precious children, if you're a Christian else I'll say the former!
Mine was an indifferent, disinterested “mmmmmm....” while I found something very interesting on the TV or on the back of a box of cereal, a recipe on a box of pasta to read.
I'm not sure it's brilliant, as much as it is accurate, and this isn't something new society is doing in any way shape or form, we've been cultivating narcissists in the country since even before we divested from England. Religious sects who broke away from the main church are almost always narcissists, if not malignant narcissist. Slave owners who feel entitled to enslave humans they see as "inferior" or "animals" to work and only provide them with food and housing, and not wages. Today we call that human trafficking. Sure, taking selfies might be new, but when doctor phil was growing up, people still took picture of themselves in front of monuments or with celebrities. The difference was they handed the camera to someone else to take it. There are fewer generations more narcissistic than the Baby Boomers, and this is why there kids are so often so messed up. Dr. Phil himself is high in narcissistic traits and self-righteousness (which is very common in Texas...where I was also raised), and when you hear about his childhood, and how he left home as a young teen to get away from her angry, alcoholic father you understand just how that could happen. Pathological narcissism is a trait you will commonly find in preacher's kids because of the religious abuse that goes on. Dr. Phil has gotten better as time has gone on, and there is no denying that he has *really* worked on himself over the decades, and I can certainly see the progress...but sometimes he steps right back into because that is just what narcissists do...backslide. I do have to say he has done really well for a kid who had to leave home and live on the streets to get away from his angry, abusive father (supposedly a man of god). Spare the rod, spoil the child is about as sick a saying as I've heard....a grown adult beating a child with a rod? Dr. Phil's son is a wanna-be/sorta-is performing artist, and that's an incredibly narcissistic pursuit, although he may not be a narcissist himself. Those guys get addicted to all that applause and the admiring fans. That's not my subjective opinion, that's just stating facts. Being in a band can be a lot like being in a gang, and those who stay in it for life often remain emotionally stunted, constantly needing to be on the road for the applause. Pathological narcissism has been around for a long, long, long time...it is not new, but social media definitely fosters it. Before social media there were magazines (Vanity Fair? It's even in the name), before there was TMZ there were paper tabloids, before there were tabloids, there was the party line on which neighbors could pick up their telephone and gossip and listen in on other people's conversations. Before there was the party line, there were neighborhood gossips, the church lady gossip, there's always been the family gossip, in Jewish communities they call this person a yenta. What social good social media platforms have done is allow people who didn't know what pathological narcissism was to now find out, just like TH-cam. Also, he forgot to mention the other professions that are high is narcissism: psychology, psychiatry, medicine. There are far too many psychologists who are high in narcissistic traits themselves, and that tends to be communal narcissism So, yes, we are cultivating a culture of narcissism....and it's been happening in one form or another since there were king and queens in Sumeria, Ancient Greece, Rome, Egypt, China has had emperors for how many thousands of years? Sports cultivates narcissism, and any kind of celebrity cultivates a culture of narcissism. This is why I say it's not brilliant....it's just stating the plain truth. (and I do think Dr Phil is intelligent, and he's worked very hard to acquire his knowledge base and experience, so he's earned it, like many other narcissist...Musk, Oprah, Steve Jobs and many other near workaholics who are also achievement-driven and admiration-seeking).
Thank you. This is the only thing I have done that has actually helped me know how to protect myself from hurtful people. I am 73 and now I know how to protect myself. Thank you.
We need a Part 5. Many of us are 10, 20, 30+ years into this and have children with a narcissist. What now Dr. Phil? How do they move on and heal from this toxic mess?
As a person with PTSD. Doctors and nurses are lacking empathy too. I have been in the hospital and I can hear them literally talking about me and talking so much BS about me without knowing me. I live like a hermit, I don't like dealing with these people at all.
I'm trying hard to make a video to get on the show and I don't know how to work my phone well I'm not phone illiterate too much I'm 52 years old however I want my story out there I need dr. Phil to advocate for me I have contacted so many people so many important people the governor the Congress lawyers judges everyone I need to be on your show to let the world know what's going on after a monster rates of woman that is 5 ft tall and 88 lb I will not be quiet until Justice is said and done
I understand where you are at, except that I have a great support system. Getting away from the house and away from my narcissistic roomie/caregiver I am physically dependent on is what has saved my sanity! I truly hope you find the help and support you need. Your comment really touched me and wished I could bring you into the support system I have. I suffer from PTSD, clinical depression, and anxiety. I am laid up where I can do little to care for myself. Praying for surgery early next year. So i can rehab and move out of my toxic environment. Take care and speak up to your medical providers!
I am sorry that happened to you. I am a nurse but I’m also someone who’s in therapy for CPTSD. I certainly don’t judge patients. I go out of my way to support and show kindness. I do validate your comments. When my ex sent an email to break up our marriage and cheated with zero remorse, my co-workers (for the most part) had little to no empathy. He took his ring off and went on a 3 week vacation with his friends. I finally kept my feelings silent to not be judged. I wish the general public would stop blaming the victims. We blame ourselves for getting involved with these parasites.
@@SuzieQ7983 I seriously hate this world and what it was become of it. I blame social media and politics. People told me nothing matters, so what, and move on... I'm seriously suicidal now.
Leaving a malignant narcissist, is so dangerous, stay quiet and don't let on that you're leaving until you're gone. Sabotage is real, even if they don't get violent, they can cause a lot of problems if they know it's coming to try and make it harder for you to leave.
Especially if you live in a small town. The smear campaign is so annoying. The little lies turn big and you see how toxic so many people are around you. Best thing is save up cash and move in a different city/town. Start brand new with that peace of mind.
Dr Phil ! I'm PRAYING that you read this because it's of the most SERIOUS NATURE . My daughter is a Malignant Narcissist and she has 5of my grandchildren . And I noticed a psychopath behavior whenever I'm around . The children are afraid to show me any nice attention afraid of their mother's behavior . I am EXTREMELY CONCERNED for the safety of my grandchildren and my daughter . What can I do to protect my grandchildren . I have called DCYF many times and she is quite able to turn it around as if I'm the issue and they believe what she says even when I have solid PROOF if the aligations
Thank you Dr Phil for your chats on narcissism. I really scared because my ex ticks all the boxes you have discussed. The scariest thing is he has convinced people that I am the bad person. I have complete strangers ready to hurt me because of his lies. While I was planning my life around this man and invested a lot time time and energy into this relationship. He was back stabbing me to his work colleagues. His boss thinks I’m a monster. He even tried turning our son against me. Everything he did to me was abusive. Every time I told him how he was making me feel. He would say things like, how can I make you feel like that. These are your feelings and I can’t control your feelings ???. He attacked me several times for no reason at all. There was no fight, no provoking. These attacks on my were spontaneous and usually after we had a nice day. It always happened when I was happy. He is a very evil nasty person. But he f he as convinced people he is a good person and I am the monster. He denies everything he has ever done to me and will turn everything around to be my fault. I have done nothing to this man. Now I’m even more scared because he is hosting me but strangers are attacking me.
My daughter in law is doing the same thing to my son!! Telling anyone who will listen that he abused her, When she is the abuser, our family has seen it! I have never had to deal with an absolute malignant narcissist
I was one such child but one fine day after a life changing event i was able to see the indifference in my narcissistic mom and started to think that something was off and gradually i started to see through her bs behavior as soon as i moved out and started to have my own normal relationships with normal people...
With me it’s my grandchildren. I’m terrified for them. Please address when your children are these monsters and you see what them using their children as tools for so many reasons while they are still very, very young. I’ve tried everything. I can’t help my grandchildren. 😢
Yes! Interested in this topic as I have experienced this and it resulted in souch trauma for me and my kids when they were young. The results were terribly devastating.
I would love to go on the show and tell my story. I spent 23 years with a malignant covert. Narcissist, we had 2 daughters together. The oldest one has been alienated from me for the last four years, the abuse I suffered and went through was unbelievable, I do something very wrong, but I just could not put my finger on it.And he would twist everything to be my fault, if he went drinking and failed to come home at a decent hour, and I said anything. To him, he would twist everything and say ridiculous. Things like, why would you be worried about where I was?When there are two bowls and a spoon in the sink that you could have been washing, i kept trying to tell him two bowls in the sink have nothing to do with his drinking problem, he filed for divorce two months before he even told me, he gouged his own arm and had me arrested for domestic abuse. Too many things to mention in this post, i just can't believe he went crawling back to his ex wife and now they are already remarried and have been for about seven months. Good luck to her.I am happy to be out
Sad that the internet is making these monsters more successful..very horrifying time we are in...am relieved to hear you Dr. Phil talking about the subject matter.
When I worked in sales we had to set all empathy aside unless it would help us close a sale. So many of the top sellers had many narcissistic and antisocial characteristics. Even my own boss, who I seen as a friend, told me to manipulate elderly people in order to make sales. I quit as soon as I found another job. Working with so many narcissists, and a company built on manipulation, completely drained me emotionally.
All companies are build on manipulation, manipulation of workers by exploiting them and on manipulation of selling items overly expensive, this is the only meaning of this system to products as much as profit as possible to owners of businesses. It is the nature of profit motive system.
I criticized my ex boyfriend for the first time and he choked me and beat me up...shocked me...now I'm free from that relationship...never felt fear before and I won't ever again...
Dr Phil I love & trust you because I’ve watched you for years. . I’m so happy you are talking about this subject. I got caught in the web of a covert narcissist & I had a really hard time believing that “the most wonderful man I’ve ever met “wasn’t real! . I think If I heard it from you I would have believed it sooner. You are helping many by doing this. Thank you!
Never argue, do not debate, do not bite their bait, don't let them run your life and don't let them control you and stay away from them. They are willing to be nice to you just so they can get an ammunition they can fire back at you in the long run. Thank you Dr. Phil for all these advices. May God bless you more to help people who are going through some sort of this situation.
So glad to see you bring more awareness to narcissism! I think it’s a much bigger problem than people realize. Narcissists are so good at charming people at the beginning of a relationship, and, before you know it, you’re in a painful, confusing and impossible situation!! You will actually become sick physically, emotionally and spiritually!
Someone that I know invited me last minute to a fundraising event and said "I want to see you there." First of all, you don't try to force someone to come to a fundraising event or anywhere for that matter. Secondly, you don't invite someone last minute to something and expect them to be able to show up. Thirdly, she did this because she wanted to look good to show the organization how many people she could get to show up to the fundraiser.
Dearest Dr Phil. At my age of 70, l m learning so much. I m ever thankful & grateful to God that nothing untoward had happened to me all these years. I didn't realize i was living in such an evil world. I did come across such "Narsissist "character in the past. But being simple minded l just brush them off, ignore them & remove myself from those people. This word "Narsissist" is new in my vocabulary. Thank you.
Just broke up with a narcissistic guy went for my stuff at his house and called it quits you can never do enough for these people they like using everyone and taking advantage of all I'm glad I'm over it I'm better than that and put myself up on a pedestal even if he never did. Family and I are thinking about relocating to Florida maybe that would be a better life a lot of distance away from him for sure thank you Dr Phil for your great advice and lectures.
I'm so glad Dr Phil talked about pets. I worked as a vet tech for 15 years and I've encountered my share of narcissists. Doctors and techs alike. If the focus is the pets then we're good...if I had to contend with a doctor or vet tech that thought they were God's gift...I can tell you the focus WAS NOT ON THE PET.🤷♀️
My ex-husband was a very dangerous narcissist. He would keep me from my friends and family for the 20 years we were married, take my paycheck that I earned as a school teacher and tell me he had to pay bills with it until I found out we had to file for bankruptcy. he would accuse me of all kinds of things that weren’t true, but would lock me out of the house, drag me downstairs, or hold a gun to my head, until I admitted that what he was saying was true. Later, he would come back and use that information against me when it wasn’t even true in the first place. I just didn’t want to die. my advice to women is to get away from this type of person as fast as they can if they value their life. He would threaten me so badly when I would tell him I was leaving. For example, he was a suspect in a murder investigation in 1994, that ended up being a cold case file. I always felt funny about the whole situation, but of course he told me he had nothing to do with it. That is, until we would have a fight, and he would bring it up and say don’t forget… I could make you disappear forever, and no one would ever know what happened to you. Thank you, Dr. Phil, for talking about this very serious topic. Fortunately, he cheated on me in 2012 and I found out about it when he fell asleep after taking his Ambien and that was my ticket out of this relationship. I am now married to a wonderful man with a kind heart and who makes me very happy.
I was with a malignant narcissist for 9 years. I had a child with him. Now I can’t look in the mirror and lost all my confidence. From all the times of him discarding me and telling me how I was worth nothing. I couldn’t stand for it to happen to my daughter so I left finally.
You can build up your confidence with healthy positive self talk. If you wouldn’t say it to your friends, don’t say it to yourself. Be kind to yourself.
@@beckyringley Yes but if the seed of your insecurity translates into your life everyday, in the form of self confidence, you're screwed for all eternity, you would need to get back your source power through the act of letting go. By never acting on the original thought to have insecurity.
Same boat , had three kids, 10 years. He was in and out so many times; leaving me for other women. Was physically Abusive, gas light me as if I was the problem… i remember times where I didn’t say a word when he’d yell at me, just be in tears. I put up with a lot to keep my “family” together. He hasn’t seen his kids in two years now and avoided paying support. He had another kid with someone else. I’ve been working two jobs to provide for the kids. Can’t say I’ve been doing terrible but always busy. But often time I get in my feelings and I have to remind myself he’s not who I thought he was, it wasn’t my fault and he doesn’t define my (self) worth …. Everything will be okay 💜
@@angelaarteaga4584 You're doing a heroic job with your lot in life, and the "lot" is a challenge for anyone. Look at what you have done just today for you, your family and your stability! I thank God for giving you the strength to go through this with such courage and fidelity. Blessings!
Dr. Phil, this is the 4th one of your videos I've watched tonight. I always learn something from you. The covert narcissist in my life is starting to sound more like the Malignant narricist. I saw my therapist today. He said I'm doing good but realize you need to walk away from him. Nothing good will come from him. Yeah, I'm walking.
3 days ago, I had an awakening and then stumbled onto you Dr. Phil, and everything you have spoke of really hits home with me and the situation I am in. Thank you for helping. Maybe I can survive it now.
You are not going to change them! You said it 100 x. After years of conditioning changing will take time if you can't get away. The "trap "will always change but will you.?
I have noticed there are more narcissist in the world than 20 years ago. The internet has brought them all together. Dr Ramani was the first person to break narcissism down for me. I thank you Dr Phil for adding to my knowledge.
I believe that my brother's girl friend is a narcesist. The first red flag for me was when she spoke to us about how someone else had been taking care of her child for three months while covid was going on, and she seemed very proud of the fact that she hadn't thanked her. It seemed very strange and I did wonder why she wasn't embarrassed about how she was gloating about exploiting her child's care giver. Now I know why.
Because they so completely believe others exist ONLY to be exploited by them. They *deserve* preferential treatment. Hopefully, your brother sees the light and my heart breaks for that poor child.
I love these, don’t stop lol the first helped me more than you could ever imagine. It was THE THING that solidified my choice in leaving my toxic relationship.
Not always! Their self-obsession can actually have positive spin-offs for the cause they "support". Unfortunately, they can burn a few supporters along the way. But they will ALWAYS, eventually, get found out. "Truth is the daughter of time"!
When they go after your family your kids your grandkids your friends your business partners when they go after strangers...all to get at you to inflict pain on you by inflicting pain on unsuspecting innocent people as you watch in horror....knowing even if you try to warn explain to anyone its too crazy for others to grasp ..
My mother is a narcissist.. took me until I was in my 40s to realize it. I didn’t know what a narcissist was .. I stated to hear more & more about narcissists and it fit! I had a “ah hah” moment. WOW. I don’t know how I survived.. The thought that passes through my mind is… is it a learned behavior or hereditary? I pray it’s not!
My wife of 6 years , is bipolar narcissistic . I hear you say , ( reward bad behavior ) you are so right . Cause , when she gaslights me , then blames me , very evil , I look back and see , that after the gaslighting and it calms down , I spend a lot of money on her .to make her happy. I give in , to avoid more gaslighting . I guess , I'm rewarding bad behavior .
She did tell me something after 5 years , that gave me hope . She said ( thank you for not giving up on me ) in that moment ( I felt hope , true feelings from the heart ) like there is a soul , deep down in there ! I just got to bring it to the surface .
Really is gonna come down to whether the marital support outweighs the torment. You're going to have to have either a sit-down or standing confrontation with her on a single-sentence view of you as a person...and whether she wants to increase your influence in her life towards being greater. And that may entail a family-based monitoring plan with gestures at milestones.
@@danielray777gsf8 No, darlin' those are just the right sounding things to say...doesn't mean anything. Even an evil person can get one right every so often.
Thank you Dr. Phil. Your television show and virtual broadcasts help me understand and protect myself those around me. I’d love to hear more about coping with narcissists in the workplace, when quitting is not an option and the narcissist has great influence over the leader of the organization.
I’m just in awe rt now.. absolutely speechless, and appreciate your videos on fill in the blanks.. you are helping me more than you know, please know you are making a impact on my life.. please keep sharing, and appreciate you sharing your self experiences all the way bk to grad school.. appreciate you so so much.. if you ever question if you lost one’s interest please Dr. Phil send a comment or message. Always always willing to give you a ear, as I appreciate your knowledge, and love learning.. may god bless yours
My father was a loud mouth, self aggrandizing, manipulative jerk. My entire family has sided with him. He abused me physically, emotionally, financially, and sexually. He attacked my pets to hurt me. Nothing has ever been off limits. My family seeks to exploit this and are trying to cut me out of the will. Maybe they are narcs, too? I spoke to my cousin not that long ago. She asked not one thing abiut me and was very bitchy. I was the most beautiful child and a child prodigy. She will never let me forget that I knocked her out of that position. I alwqys thought that they never knew about the abuse. Now it is very clear to me that they always knew and chose to do nothing. I have always thought that enablers were worse than the people they enabled.
I lived with someone like this for a period of time. Being the oldest of 11 children, I needed to learn it was not my job to take care of everyone.I had a lot of learning moments to help me grow out of this pattern of behavior. I learned I had to change my way of thinking. I will share two of the many learning experiences I had.I was playing softball, and I threw the ball from the out fild to home plate. I had thrown the ball so hard that I continued to rotate to the left, I heard a pop and went down immediately. I felt so much pain in my left knee. I could not get up. A lot of people rushed to the field to try to help. My husband at that time was the last person to come out to me. His response was, " Get up, you're embarrassing me." I was shocked, to say the least. I had torn the ACL in half, torn the meniscus, and took a peace a peace of bone off the knee. There was never any "I'm sorry, nothing." Another learning moment that was very hard for me. I worked hard to protect my siblings and my children. My ex-husbands mother came to see me. She had informed me that my ex-husband had molested his sister. That I should not trust him with my daughter. My first thought was that she was trying to break up my marriage. That night, I calmly sat down with my husband at the time and told him what his mother had told me. I will never forget his response. He said, " it was her fault she kept coming back for more." She was 5 years old he was 16 -19. I wanted to get away from him as fast as I could. I went to seek counsel that night. I was told that my 2 year old daughter would be left with him because I had no evidence to prove otherwise. I made a discussion to stay long enough for my children to have a voice and to gather evidence. I was able to get a voice recording of him admitted he had molested the child along with other important documents. I had to learn not to repeat this pattern of getting involved with someone like this. The most important thing I needed to learn was to believe in what I know.
Thank you. I had to learn. This experience taught me a lot about life and myself, about what I didn't learn at home. Needless to say I will never do it again. I've learned enough not to repeat the same patterns. We all have learning moments in our life. We could choose to learn from them or choose to repeat the same patterns. I'm just grateful for the life I have now. Thank you.
This,is. Such a,sad toxic thing people are living with and the poor little children .they are so innocent bless there hearts .let's all pray for them .I wish we could gain even more awareness,of people like this.we need to protect the innocent. And our children.
Dr Phil, I REALLY THANK YOU... I met my wife September 1985. She lived with her parents in LA. At 30 she was the youngest sibling of four: Sister, brother, sister, my wife. (I am 7&1/2 years older than her.) I lived in SanJose. She moved in with me in June 1996. By 1997 I knew something was very wrong, but it took deep suffering for many years until 2019 when I was left bawling on the floor crushed again, and all she could do is blame me and turn my youngest daughters against me... ZERO EMPATHY... That's when I started researching various personality disorders, and realized she has narcissistic characteristics... December 2020 I again found myself crushed on the bathroom floor balling very hard, buggery nose and all! That's when I decided to live for my own happiness, albeit not neglecting my responsibilities as a husband and father. The pain of living with her, and my daughters who side up with her is just more than any saine person can deal with. On top of that, I am disabled with Severe Chronic Pain Syndrome, which is very difficult to live with. I have been disabled from severe symptoms of CPS since 02/10/07. I love my wife, and feel very sad for her disorder, but I must love myself first. I must find a way to live away from her so I can flourish as the living beautiful person I am.. These videos are so very helpful... Thank you very much... 🙏God Bless You🙏
Your story mirrors mine in many ways. I've been married to my narc wife for 26 years. I have chronic health issues since 2007 that I believe are caused by the abuse caused by my wife and two adult children. Leave and don't look back. I'm out soon. Planning on leaving March 2022
Your story mirrors mine in many ways. I've been married to my narc wife for 26 years. I have chronic health issues since 2007 that I believe are caused by the abuse caused by my wife and two adult children. Leave and don't look back. I'm out soon. Planning on leaving March 2022
Your story mirrors mine in many ways. I've been married to my narc wife for 26 years. I have chronic health issues since 2007 that I believe are caused by the abuse caused by my wife and two adult children. Leave and don't look back. I'm out soon. Planning on leaving March 2022
@@santoparfano1910 Thank you Santo... It's so sad! Because I love my wife very much. She is a wonderful mother, and does her best to shop wisely helping us survive well with our low income. We used to be best friends, that was beautiful. I know she loves me, I know she does her best. She does love me for who I am. That says a lot. Unfortunately Narcissism is so very ugly! Their caught within their own spider web. Narcissism is the black widow that poisons the beautiful person inside them. Dr Phil is absolutely correct. There is no trying to talk with them because they take everything so personal. What I have learned to do is insist we speak calmly and civilly. If they begin trying to control the conversation by rapidly changing the subject, blaming me, or raising their voice out of control, I simply end the conversation, (taking their NARCISCISTIC powers away.) Telling them I will not put up with their same old same old narcissistic behaviours preventing our civil conversation. I know that when I can leave my whole life will change, my pains will surely improve. I will miss her, and wonder how she is doing. I will always love her, and always try to help her with things she can't do herself. But I've learned I must love myself first. The saddest thing is she has damaged my relationship with my children, acting childish and encouraging them to treat me like sht... Blaming loudly. Upsetting my young adult daughters; 17 & 20. Walking away instigating them on. Consumation of the original conversation never finds resolution. This extra difficult. I suffer greatly from Severe Chronic Pain Syndrome and its monstrous Symptoms. The truth is I have spend the last ten years in my bedroom just to reduce the pain signals from causing my brain to suffer, and to avoid their grief towards me. Good luck Santo... God Bless you brother... PS I think I would appreciate the honor being a guest on the Dr. Phill Show sharing our experience, our story. Possibly! Helping a narcissist behold their presented difficulties - in simple conversation techniques. Presenting them tools for change. Helping them to find a reason to change. Giving relationships a chance. Understanding when to get out. Being involved with narcissism is a real challange. Forcing deep introspection... In this it is a blessing bringing inner strength (Possibly getting Doctor Phil's professional help and guidance...)
Yes I too love my wife. It's sad bc she will likely never fully realize her role in our marriage ending. She will point and sputter and blame me for leaving and not see its mainly bc of her criticalness, lack of reciprocity in communication, no deep dive ever, smear campaigns for YEARS, ETC. I will likely always love her for her good qualities but I have nothing more to give her. Im completely empty and she's drained me. I need to leave to get my life back. I like you, have limited income on SSI but I'll make it work and I'd like to return to work once ny immune system calms down. I used to be concerned that she wouldn't be able to make it on her own but I (and you as well) have to put yourself first at some point bc this is abuse. Good luck brother...
Thank you Dr. PHIL for this series. It's so important the general population knows about these cluster B personalities. Can you talk about their jibber jabber word salad? It's crazy making!
right on about cultivating narcissism!!! I recently retired...thank goodness. The changes I have seen in our culture over the past 45 working years of my life were just too much to stand. The magnitude of the self-importance has increased exponentially. The audacity is beyond belief. They want your job and have no problems going after it. Management allows/encourages the younger ones to do it, so they (management) do not have to do it (push you out). Then they acted like what are you talking about? You are too sensitive. They are not doing that. Gaslighting. It has been 8 months since I retired, and it has taken me that long to detox, relax, dream again, and just to feel good again physically and emotionally. For management to come after your health is reprehensible especially in health care. Unbelievable, but true. Health care professionals making each other sick. Terrible.
I wish I knew all this before. I have a narcissistic sister and brother and I’m the scapegoat . I should have left years ago and not returned. I am now working on my Exit! They can’t change…it’s the truth. Everytime I thought my sister had changed … oh I was so wrong. She’s a Demon!
I’m a year late listening . I wish more people had been more aware 5 years ago. Now we all have to deal with those who have fallen prey to the Narcissist. Love how you can pretend we all don’t know exactly who we are dealing with.
I thank you for taking the time to explain how a Narcissist is. I never knew there was such a disturbing behacior. Ive encountered ppl like this and it was me feeling like I was the one with this problem they blamed me for Your so correct and its helpful to understand this disorder.
Thank you so much Dr. Phil for taking the time. The first one I watched was the covert narcissist, and I am dealing with someone like that, who unfortunately is my landlord and it's unreal how much he is exactly like this. I knew he was a narcissist, but I am learning about the other types as well and learning about the other 3. I have a feeling by the time I am done watching and learning them all, he has a combination of them all. Very dangerous and lately it's been more and more extreme. Thank you. I have learned so much and trying to learn how to deal with him because certain things he has said, and flat out lied about will make me see red and completely loss my cool. I have dealt with this for too long (3 years) and I am now at the end of my rope. I don't like feeling that kind of anger that seems to come out every single time around him in a matter of minutes. I could go on and on, and that would take up a whole show of yours. Thank you again. Love all you do.
Where are you taking questions? Here, from the comments? I lived with a Sociopath Sibling. It was horrendous all the time. I am 60 years old and I finally gave up 7 years ago and went full No Contact. It's been very peaceful. She used to tell me all about her 'adventures' in torturing people for fun. Not only is she mean to the core, but dangerous. Her biggest desire is to hurt someone physically. She wanted me gone from the family, accomplished! She wants her ex dead so she can have his property. She was actively trying to do with by making him have a heart attack. When 3rd husband died, she threw his child out and sold everything, kept the money, etc. Husband that died...she used to complain that he wouldn't get up and DOOOOO anything. There is so much I could write a book on this.
Chris.... yeah, your experience here iiso right on.... They ARE dangerous and DO enjoy hurting others especially physically. They will stand over a person who is dying and enjoy taking it all in. I have witnessed this too
@@vindheimar2631 Well, I have called them and warned them that she is dangerous. I informed them of some of her threats. To me as well as others. What made me call them was her telling me that she was going to shoot 2 boys that were riding 4 wheelers on her property.
@@vindheimar2631 I'm fine. She's only showed up once in 7 years and my husband ran her off. They killed any feelings I had for them due all this abuse and enabling. My regret is that I didn't go No Contact sooner. My poor children had to endure this trash every holiday out of my ignorant sense of family. That was never a family, it was a battle ground. When I went No Contact almost 8 years ago, my oldest son said "It's about time Mom, they treated you awful". They didn't treat him very well either. I feel stupid for hoping for change. I mean, how long do you wait lol. Dumb on my part.
I DEEPLY have to thank you yet again for your last Covert narcissism video, I've been studying it for 2 years now and could not get it to fit but watching your video pieced it all together. I now see my mother and grandmother were CN's and thats why I was drawn to narcissistic partners, starting with an overt (who was unfaithful and abused me physically once, I had large bruises and got my skin destroyed by him, I was only 14, he was 28 and my first partner) so after that I aimed for the shy quiet guys who turned out to be even worse because of psychological abuse I now see I've endured for the last 30 years. No wonder I've been on antidepressants and suffered from anxiety for so many years. I now also understand why I've broken it off with all of them and why they fought me to the nail and tooth about parting ways. (It took years to get rid of one and then the next came) So many things fit together, like a long puzzle of questions and strange things that finally have answers. THANK YOU, Dr. McGraw, THANK YOU! Your fathers condition actually helped make THE best covert narcissism video I have seen, that helped others in this so I guess it brought one good thing.
I have currently been out of narc marriage for 2 weeks. He has tried everything to come back. I have more peace since i made him leave. You are absolutely right everything he did for me was always thrown in my face later. Never satisfied. Thank you for your video's.
No. You are not alone. I can hardly find a time in my life where I wasn't being targeted or gaslighted by one narc or another. I always asked myself why? Was there something about me that was attracting evil people? Or, perhaps, everybody was evil and somehow I was the outlier. That couldn't possibly be true. I am a terrible liar, and waste too much time feeling guilty for even minor insignificant lies, so I avoid lying at all cost. I've spent decades trying to answer that question. Researching and taking all the pieces of my life to put together this great big puzzle. The correct answer turned out to be that I am an empath. The polar opposite of a narcissist. That I wasn't seeking them out. No, they were seeking me out. It is rare that 2 narcissists will marry. A narcissist does not want to share the stage with their spouse, but requires a partner they can dominate ... thus, setting up an easy win as they dissolve the soul of their partner the empath and feeding narcissistic supply to the narc. The next question becomes ... how do you stop them? There's not much that can stop a narc. Even an experienced psychotherapist will fail at treating a narcissist, they don't care that they are hurting people they claim to love. But, they are not capable of loving anyone. There's no room left to love anyone else other than themselves. Love for you is just another one of their lies. Narcs tend to surround themselves with other people that feed their supply, so when the empath leaves they are abandoned by an entire community they once shared. Much like Trump. It is difficult for people to abandon Trump because they face political peril and isolation if they do ... ie Liz Cheney. The same is true of the empath leaving the narc. The only path to freeing yourself from a narc is education and preparation. Oh, and never have kids with a narc. A narc will not hesitate to abuse their own kids in pursuit of hurting the empath. They can't feel the child's pain, so to them it is a perfectly acceptable method of getting revenge on the empath. A narc will brain fuk your kids minds and cause a once loving normal child to turn on the only protection they have ... the empathic parent. So, the secret to escape is 1) Do not let the narc know you're on to them. Treat them as the God they believe themselves to be. 2) Plan, plan, plan. Stash cash, open separate accounts. Take money from joint accounts at the grocery checkout by getting cash back. 3) Pack everything of value and get a storage locker. 4) Join a support group because the narc will take your friends and even try to solicit the sympathy of your family and isolate you from them. Take as many allies with you, especially if the narc doesn't know them. 5) You may need to change jobs. The narc is not beyond following you, or having you followed, to your new home. They have no shame ... they will speak to your boss and co-workers and try to get you fired. 6) Change phones and disconnect from social media. Reconnect using the new phone under an assumed name. Join locked groups for posting. Study the narc. The narc uses a standard book of tricks for every gaslighting con they pull. It's systematic. The day you disappear without a word and without a trace, you will mortally wound the narcissists ego and send them into a narcissistic rage. You do not want to be found. In fact, they may be looking for you for years because you wounded them so badly. They won't forgive you.
@@nicolekulikowski2401 it's a process, but once u gain momentum, you will start to see clearly. Narcissists can have you doubting every decision u make. It ends up suppressing the most powerful part of each & every one of us. When u begin to face energy & feel its presence, you will see. You begin to see everything different. Your intuition will begin to get stronger & you will sense all sorts of things. This only begins to happen when u put space, time & silence between the 2. When that happens, you will get to know ur TRUE self. After you begin to feel balanced, then ur able to receive only good. You also could feel that holding on to resentment or anger is only clouding ur hearts mind & u will want to let it go. Letting it go meaning, this person no longer has power over u in any way, u are in control of ur own life, u only have room to get LOVE & give LOVE.
5:24 *"Dr. Phil describes every beginner as a stand-up comedian, actor, inventor, and many others that improve our lives and bring joy to our lives when they ignore you, jealous people." --Narcissists International*
I know a communal malignant narcissist. The communal act is part of a buffer so that no one will believe it if anyone (the abused family) mentions the malignant behavior.
I have a numbers of narcissistic people in my life. You've met my parents and would agree lol. My parents are both covert narcissist. I feel I have grown a lot and have become the person I am today because of these people. It is very helpful to understand their behavior and their way of thinking. I have learned to never take their ramblings personally. I do what I want to or am able to and no more. It has helped to draw boundaries and stick to them. My question is how did two covert narcissist end up together in the first place? They are now thankfully divorced.
Narcissists do attract other narcissists, such as primary and secondary . One narcissist will hold the title of prominence in the relationship while the other narcissist is a follower sort of type.
My ex showed traits of communal and malignant. He said he has Asperger’s. I don’t know what he is, but he is controlling, manipulative, grandiose, has delusional thinking, cannot cope with reality - future faked me - verbally abused me. Did everything he could for neighbors and friends. Has no closeness to his family. Hasn’t seen his own children in 10 years, as the ex has ghosted him when they split. There were many red flags at the beginning, but at the end - I was blamed for the break up, because he changed towards me. Everything was my fault. Had a Jekyll and Hyde personality, I didn’t know how he was going to behave from one day to the next. Arguments were too much and he never took accountability. No resolve and the same arguments would come about “ my trust for him” he hated that I questioned him. We didn’t live together so, I didn’t know who he was when away from me. I never felt secure and my gut was always telling me something wasn’t right. I still stayed way longer than I should have and that is what I struggle with the most, now that I am out.
It’s so hard for good people who want to see the good in others to believe that truly evil people exist, but I know they do and I truly feel like I’ve escaped the devil himself. 😭😬 I’m glad I didn’t know it at the time though bc I might have been too scared to leave. Trust & believe I needed to leave. Thank you dr Phil. Sending love to you and your wife.
Too many politicians are described by your posting....too many relatives,,friends,,neighbors etc. Not only are they toxic,but they try to drag you into their view of the world.. It is not easy to coexist with toxic people. Thanks for all you do. All your topics on this are spot on.
I am not surprised But totally cut through my heart.. My 1st husband Did Everything single thing you just said to take my kids, my money, my purpose Everything Was used against me! And he knew I wouldn't challenge him because I was programed to trust him!! And I Did! Everytime! I believed everything he said and pretending to care! Makes me so angry and sad! I didn't know better!!
This is so helpful! I just left a narcisist, and I had to be very strategic about how I went on about it. And your lessons are giving me the words and the theori to help me understand I did the right thing. I was just acting from my instincts of survival and I am finding great support in your lessons. After more than 2 months with no contact, my anxiety is gone and I am becoming myself again.
Wow! The "foot" Metaphor was profound for me. I was completely vulnerable with my husband of 12 years, he completely gutted me while i was already down
I would love to hear more about narcissism in relationships!!! I recently got out of a 10-month relationship with a narcissist and these videos have educated me so much.
My son has terrorized me for years too...Just now seeing and trying to understand all the screwed up feelings I've never felt...It's hard to wrap my head around the fact there's no true feelings or love for me ever...And I'm nothing but a means to an end...And actually dust in the wind...
I'm a newcomer to this Dr Phil series. Finding it so informative and empowering for us laymen! Tired of psychobabble. Dr Phil delivers understanding and practical strategies. Thank you!
My malignant narcessist husband didn’t have anxiety ever.. nothing bothered him enough to lose sleep over it ever… It was very creepy. Even losing his job.. or being evicted from his home.. he could always just go right to sleep.
So, on one of the videos Dr. Phil said that narcissicim could be due to being spoiled by a parent or being neglected by a parent, the fact that narcisscist really have low self esteem seems obvious in the case of individuals with neglectful parents; This makes me wonder if narcisscist individuals who were spoiled by their parents have low self esteems because they didn't really have to do much to get everything and on some level they know they don't deserve praise and whatever else when they didn't earn it legitamately.
@@amyfrey444 my Narc husband was both spoiled and abused.. his mother is crazy, and she was wealthy. If he threw a fit she’d give him what he wanted. He had a little sister who he bullied her whole life. She was an alcoholic by her mid teen years and ended up dying before she was 40. Her life with him and his mother must have been a nightmare. I can’t even imagine living with both of them.
@@debraanchante3661 That is interesting. The person I am always trying to figure out is my ex. He has some strange dynamics with his mom. If you heard him talk about her, you would guess that he hates her, but if she needs anything, he drops everything to cater to her. Maybe your ex's mom spoiled him because she felt bad about the abuse or because she knew she wasn't a great mom.
Thank you so much for this invaluable series. My son is more of the covert type and in addition, he has just been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. He is 35 and I feel like I’m willing to do more for him than he is willing to do for himself. Can you please address how a parent should deal with this situation? It’s so different than walking away from a stranger.
My husband and I adopted my son at 3 -he is now 17. He has been a progressive nightmare and every family member often sleeps behind locked doors. He has caused so much Destruction and DCF has provided little help. We are in an impossible situation. I would like to give up on him but dr Phil says, “ you never get to give up on your kids”. So what do you do?
@@bonnie8427 I wish I could say something helpful. My wife and I will pray for the situation/stress you guys are under and believe with you that deliverance comes! Either by the fire or through the fire God will take this cup from you 🙏.
But your son *is* a stranger to you. At 35 yrs. old, please stop enabling his behavior. It’s neither your responsibility nor your place to address what ever ails. You’re not gonna save him but he’ll drown you. At 35 he should be an INdependent productive adult. If your presence hasn’t helped-and it hasn’t, your absence won’t hurt. I know it hurts but you’re no one’s savior-none of us are and continuing on this same unproductive course will result in the same outcomes. I’m sorry.
@@tundrawomansays5067, I so agree with you. Enabling, coddling, and rescuing your child, sibling, and anyone else gets you no where, except that you feel more responsible and dependent of them thinking if you do more than they will change. You can not do anymore, because they refuse to change and why change if it has worked this far. Why fix a wheel when it still works. A narcissist is a narcissist and they will never change and you are in a no win situation. The more you do for them the worse they get. They enjoy the "highs" to much when they bully, become verbally abusive, threatening and to include physical assault, their out of control volcanic rages, screaming and yelling to the top of their lungs, playing the victim role, seeing others stunned with a loss of words due to their behavoir, and so on. It seems this man is the "Golden Child" of the family and he continues to expect the same treatment and attention as when he was a child. Coddling and enabling him will never work as the older he gets the worse he will become. He will expect more and more than is what is humanly possible. Not even a parent or professional can meet all their needs, because they are so unrealistic. I agree he is 35 years and the rescuing, enabling, and meeting his every need needs to stop. You are not helping him, but only encouraging his behavior. This gives him the message thst says, "It is ok to mistreat and abuse you. I know you will take it." It is not and never will be ok for someone to abuse another person. She is not helping him, but hindering his ability to grow and be self sufficient.
So true; I however, feel like they're great at reading the room. And they're even better at putting on a façade to convince everyone else that they're amazing human beings, only revealing the wolf behind the sheep's clothing to those whose opinions they don't value. And I know we all tend to put our best foot forward in public, but this is a whole different animal. Because they're so quick to flip the switch from their public portrayal to the true evil they can be, like the moment they go from being in public to being alone.
Oh my gosh Dr. Phil you just had me laughing out loud at the section on gaslighting. Which you did beautifully really right on the money. The sheer absurdity of it struck me as so funny. I can Very thankfully laugh now because the narcissist I was married to, has been entirely gone from my life for 12 years. What a blessing. Thank you for this series really well done. I will be sharing this with my beautiful daughter in the hope she will watch. I'm afraid she is romantically involved with a malignant narcissist. I am frightened for her and my beautiful 2 year old Granddaughter. Nancy
Wow! Clearing up the confusion about 3 people in my life. Couldn’t quite figure out the behavior or the why behind it. So baffling after you’ve helped them so much. My husband called it jealousy but I knew it was more than that. I have a narcissistic sister come back in my life “wanting to start over” with no apology or explanations on her lies and terrible behavior. Jesus wants us to forgive but I think I’m getting that mixed up with wisdom. I’ve actually had someone at work state “I’m going to get you before you get me” after a warning. I’ve realized she’s a broken person but again, wisdom need’s to override compassion. I won’t change them but I can still pray for them. Thank you for that Dr Phil. Thank you for validating that it’s OK to RUN and cut ties.
I think the scripture "be Wise as serpents yet harmless as doves " applies to dealing with narcissists and narcissistic abuse . One needs to protect themselves and their loved ones from these people and their toxic destructive behavior
In the last 2 years I wondered why I never had a relationship with my sister. She is definitely a narcissist. When my husband died, she and her husband and 2 grown children sat 7 rows behind my family. I was so embarrassed. At the graveside, she came up to me and said, now it’s your turn, walked away. No sympathy for me. I could tell many more ‘events’
Thank you for answering my question Dr. Phil. That's really cool that you did the study on the inmates. It shows you have a lot of compassion towards people that have effects of psychological numbing, even though they may have those dark triad traits. It'll be great to watch your next episode on BPD as well, and thank you for the content.
The first time I've heard someone mention how a narc won't necessarily lie on you all the time but they will put a negative "air" on you or on something you said/did to ruin you!
First off, I have learned a lot from ur show's over 20 years, that have been a tool to better my life and that of my children to live a less toxic lifestyle. I am Thankful for you, your family and team that put it all together!! My question is, can you have a personality type that attracts narcissists??
Yes. It was the model you grew up in within your own family system of origin, and we all gravitate to that which feels familiar. Not consciously mind you, but we do.
I spent many years with a Narcissistic my Husband and the father of my children. For me I made excuses for his behavior.. though for me if you live with the person long enough you are sucked into it and then I start becoming more like him. I had to get out for self preservation. So thankful I did.
I knew nothing about the cluster B; borderline personality disorder and narcissism as I struggled to raise my daughter who came out of a Russian orphanage at the age of 8. She told me she came with lans to run our lives and our home. Of course we didn't let her, WE THOUGHT! She would bounce between overt and covert and bounce all of us, parents and three other adopted siblings, with her. She is now in her late 30's. I wish I knew then what I know now. I could write a book about all the lies and damage that was done inside and outside the family.
Communal narcissist: the first person in room to gasp and gosh, oh my, a problem, can I help?? No? OK, I just wanted to make sure that everything and everyone's ok, ok? I'm sorry I just care too much, its my nature. Its just the way I am. I've always always like this. I always try to do the right thing. Sorry I forgot what the problem was that I forgot to help with.
Around the 32:00 “ you’re not the one” Love it Dr Phil. Such a confirmation. I’d still have 35 years of research to catch up with you and you say..” You re not going to change them”. 😳. Ty sir Another thing” don’t let them make you throw in the towel on something you’re passionate about” wow!! We have a tendency to feel guilty that we love something because it’s stupid to them. Really appreciate this sir. 14 years later and I’m still doing my homework. Maybe I am sick like she says. Lol
I’ve been in this situation 28:30- 30.23 too many times and I work in one of the caring profession. The level of bullying backstabbing and malignant gossip that goes amongst healthcare people is quite frightening and insidious
Dr. PHIL You need a part five. How to heal from being around a narcissist. What if you've been dealing with someone like this for many years/ decades.
It is really hard to overcome. My egg donor is the worst I have ever seen.
I have a teenage granddaughter that has PTSD from the trauma of living with a MN step mother. I would like to watch a part 5 on that as well. Is there anything else we can do to help my granddaughter? Her mother takes her to therapy and she’s on meds for the PTSD.
I do pray continually for her healing. She’s not having as many nightmares as she was having. I just wish I could do more. I don’t want to say a lot cause this is public.
Earthen Vessels on TH-cam has many videos about how to heal but if you're not a Christian you will not like what she has to say. In a nutshell, you have to forgive them to free yourself from the evil entanglement. And you have to figure out why they chose you as a victim and work on that weakness or weaknesses.
Agree!
I've been divorced from a covert narcissist who was slipping into malignant for 20+ years. I still dread the rare times that I need to be at the same celebration with this man - graduations, weddings, etc. His very presence spoils any event as I'm expected by our adult children to be civil. Years of therapy did little to heal or change the damage done by him. Listening to Dr Ramani & to you, Dr Phil, is far more helpful.
Yes, please do a Part 5(& 6...7?) for those who need help afterwards. Even 20 years after.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and hard-earned wisdom with us in very clear words. 🙏
My experience of being raised by one and entire family - blocked all of them for the most part and dug into research and did grief therapy, became my own best friend and am on my healing journey. It takes time, and work, but so worth it. Stay strong and believe in and be in love with yourself ♥️🌹🖤🦋
“ it’s important that you don’t let them drive you away from something that you care about “
Very powerful, thanks Dr. Phil !
😂Best line (and advice!) ever: "there MAY be someone out there able to crack the narcissist code, but assume that person is not you." Thank you, Dr. Phil!!!❤
From my own experience, the best part of Dr. Phil's advice is to not give them another chance once you've escaped. They have already shown you who they are. They will say and do anything to try and regain your trust but it's all a sham. They are incapable of change. Also if you plan to leave an abusive relationship with a malignant narcissist, don't telegraph your plans ahead of time! Make sure you are safe and have a safe place to go. Don't leave your kids behind, thinking "oh he won't hurt them." You don't know that. Above all, don't drop the charges, if there are any. Get that protection order. I've learned too much the hard way.
Wonderful advice thank you
My dad's like this . The second you have a conversation with him concerning anything instantly he wants to cut you off.
As Dr. Ramani says: don’t go DEEP ( defend, explain , engage, personalize) she is an expert on the subject and Dr Phil should have her in the show!
I left over 2 years ago, I am a Desert Storm Veteran and I tell everyone that I would rather be back over seas with a spork then spend one minute with my ex narc. I am 56 years old and have witnessed many horrible things in my travels but I have never, ever been so emotionally and mentally dismantled. I used to poke fun at the fact that a man would accuse a woman of domestic violence.I can now say with the upmost certainty that I no longer find it funny. I now do believe that we all possess a soul, and that the only woman I have ever truly loved intentionally,maliciously and without feeling or remorse litterly bled my soul dry. I am no longer the man I once was! This has changed the way I look at EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE!! To anyone dealing with a narc, GET OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!! GOOD LUCK TO ALL!
Arguing with a narcissist is like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall
Truth! Great analogy!
Absolutely
Absolutely 💯
They are C.U.N.T.S...Cant understand normal thinking!
arguing with a narcissist is like pulling teeth or putting your head through a wall
"Don't take the bait", truer words were never more spoken. My response to them when they try to bait me to defend myself or explain, is, " whatever gets you through the day."
I love that!! I am going to steal that line
I'm using that one too! I've long thought i need to just have a generic reply ready because it will be needed.
My line is "Knock yourself out!" But I usually say it when they walk out of the room. 🤣😂 "Do not rejoice because demons are subject unto you, but because your name is written in The Lamb's Book of Life." Rejoice in your love for God and all His precious children, if you're a Christian else I'll say the former!
Mine was an indifferent, disinterested “mmmmmm....” while I found something very interesting on the TV or on the back of a box of cereal, a recipe on a box of pasta to read.
Dr. Phul of it McQuack. And Robin has no secret and need not call on the Batman, shes already batass crazy especially for marrying Phul of it.
"We're cultivating narcissists." .....Right there.....Brilliant!
I'm not sure it's brilliant, as much as it is accurate, and this isn't something new society is doing in any way shape or form, we've been cultivating narcissists in the country since even before we divested from England. Religious sects who broke away from the main church are almost always narcissists, if not malignant narcissist. Slave owners who feel entitled to enslave humans they see as "inferior" or "animals" to work and only provide them with food and housing, and not wages. Today we call that human trafficking.
Sure, taking selfies might be new, but when doctor phil was growing up, people still took picture of themselves in front of monuments or with celebrities. The difference was they handed the camera to someone else to take it.
There are fewer generations more narcissistic than the Baby Boomers, and this is why there kids are so often so messed up.
Dr. Phil himself is high in narcissistic traits and self-righteousness (which is very common in Texas...where I was also raised), and when you hear about his childhood, and how he left home as a young teen to get away from her angry, alcoholic father you understand just how that could happen. Pathological narcissism is a trait you will commonly find in preacher's kids because of the religious abuse that goes on. Dr. Phil has gotten better as time has gone on, and there is no denying that he has *really* worked on himself over the decades, and I can certainly see the progress...but sometimes he steps right back into because that is just what narcissists do...backslide. I do have to say he has done really well for a kid who had to leave home and live on the streets to get away from his angry, abusive father (supposedly a man of god). Spare the rod, spoil the child is about as sick a saying as I've heard....a grown adult beating a child with a rod?
Dr. Phil's son is a wanna-be/sorta-is performing artist, and that's an incredibly narcissistic pursuit, although he may not be a narcissist himself. Those guys get addicted to all that applause and the admiring fans. That's not my subjective opinion, that's just stating facts. Being in a band can be a lot like being in a gang, and those who stay in it for life often remain emotionally stunted, constantly needing to be on the road for the applause.
Pathological narcissism has been around for a long, long, long time...it is not new, but social media definitely fosters it. Before social media there were magazines (Vanity Fair? It's even in the name), before there was TMZ there were paper tabloids, before there were tabloids, there was the party line on which neighbors could pick up their telephone and gossip and listen in on other people's conversations. Before there was the party line, there were neighborhood gossips, the church lady gossip, there's always been the family gossip, in Jewish communities they call this person a yenta.
What social good social media platforms have done is allow people who didn't know what pathological narcissism was to now find out, just like TH-cam.
Also, he forgot to mention the other professions that are high is narcissism: psychology, psychiatry, medicine. There are far too many psychologists who are high in narcissistic traits themselves, and that tends to be communal narcissism
So, yes, we are cultivating a culture of narcissism....and it's been happening in one form or another since there were king and queens in Sumeria, Ancient Greece, Rome, Egypt, China has had emperors for how many thousands of years? Sports cultivates narcissism, and any kind of celebrity cultivates a culture of narcissism.
This is why I say it's not brilliant....it's just stating the plain truth.
(and I do think Dr Phil is intelligent, and he's worked very hard to acquire his knowledge base and experience, so he's earned it, like many other narcissist...Musk, Oprah, Steve Jobs and many other near workaholics who are also achievement-driven and admiration-seeking).
@@le_th_ when ya get some free time how bout telling us what you REALLY think, will ya?
Me, me look at me. So tiring 😩
@@waynec369 No one had a gun to your head forcing you to read it.
@@le_th_ you're totally assuming that I read it...
Thank you. This is the only thing I have done that has actually helped me know how to protect myself from hurtful people. I am 73 and now I know how to protect myself. Thank you.
We need a Part 5. Many of us are 10, 20, 30+ years into this and have children with a narcissist. What now Dr. Phil? How do they move on and heal from this toxic mess?
That’s part 6!
Some of us had narc parents then married narc and then their narc families too. Please I have one son in this world and I need to protect him.
@@happyhealthyblessed I need to protect my only 2 grandchildren in the world :(
Yes, married to one and my daughter mirrors him…it is a nightmare
@@madisonandthefarm SAME, I voiced my concerns to her last week and now she's not talking to me :(
As a person with PTSD. Doctors and nurses are lacking empathy too. I have been in the hospital and I can hear them literally talking about me and talking so much BS about me without knowing me. I live like a hermit, I don't like dealing with these people at all.
I'm trying hard to make a video to get on the show and I don't know how to work my phone well I'm not phone illiterate too much I'm 52 years old however I want my story out there I need dr. Phil to advocate for me I have contacted so many people so many important people the governor the Congress lawyers judges everyone I need to be on your show to let the world know what's going on after a monster rates of woman that is 5 ft tall and 88 lb I will not be quiet until Justice is said and done
AGREED!!! Judgement in the medical field is the worst!! Like you’re literally there to help people be their best and heal!?
I understand where you are at, except that I have a great support system. Getting away from the house and away from my narcissistic roomie/caregiver I am physically dependent on is what has saved my sanity! I truly hope you find the help and support you need. Your comment really touched me and wished I could bring you into the support system I have. I suffer from PTSD, clinical depression, and anxiety. I am laid up where I can do little to care for myself. Praying for surgery early next year. So i can rehab and move out of my toxic environment. Take care and speak up to your medical providers!
I am sorry that happened to you. I am a nurse but I’m also someone who’s in therapy for CPTSD. I certainly don’t judge patients. I go out of my way to support and show kindness. I do validate your comments. When my ex sent an email to break up our marriage and cheated with zero remorse, my co-workers (for the most part) had little to no empathy. He took his ring off and went on a 3 week vacation with his friends. I finally kept my feelings silent to not be judged. I wish the general public would stop blaming the victims. We blame ourselves for getting involved with these parasites.
@@SuzieQ7983 I seriously hate this world and what it was become of it. I blame social media and politics. People told me nothing matters, so what, and move on... I'm seriously suicidal now.
Leaving a malignant narcissist, is so dangerous, stay quiet and don't let on that you're leaving until you're gone. Sabotage is real, even if they don't get violent, they can cause a lot of problems if they know it's coming to try and make it harder for you to leave.
Especially if you live in a small town. The smear campaign is so annoying. The little lies turn big and you see how toxic so many people are around you. Best thing is save up cash and move in a different city/town. Start brand new with that peace of mind.
Dr Phil ! I'm PRAYING that you read this because it's of the most SERIOUS NATURE . My daughter is a Malignant Narcissist and she has 5of my grandchildren . And I noticed a psychopath behavior whenever I'm around . The children are afraid to show me any nice attention afraid of their mother's behavior . I am EXTREMELY CONCERNED for the safety of my grandchildren and my daughter . What can I do to protect my grandchildren . I have called DCYF many times and she is quite able to turn it around as if I'm the issue and they believe what she says even when I have solid PROOF if the aligations
Thank you Dr Phil for your chats on narcissism. I really scared because my ex ticks all the boxes you have discussed. The scariest thing is he has convinced people that I am the bad person. I have complete strangers ready to hurt me because of his lies. While I was planning my life around this man and invested a lot time time and energy into this relationship. He was back stabbing me to his work colleagues. His boss thinks I’m a monster. He even tried turning our son against me. Everything he did to me was abusive. Every time I told him how he was making me feel. He would say things like, how can I make you feel like that. These are your feelings and I can’t control your feelings ???. He attacked me several times for no reason at all. There was no fight, no provoking. These attacks on my were spontaneous and usually after we had a nice day. It always happened when I was happy. He is a very evil nasty person. But he f he as convinced people he is a good person and I am the monster. He denies everything he has ever done to me and will turn everything around to be my fault. I have done nothing to this man. Now I’m even more scared because he is hosting me but strangers are attacking me.
My daughter in law is doing the same thing to my son!! Telling anyone who will listen that he abused her, When she is the abuser, our family has seen it! I have never had to deal with an absolute malignant narcissist
I would like you to cover Parental Alienation and the Narcissist. How to protect your kids. How to recover your kids. How to save your adult children.
I was one such child but one fine day after a life changing event i was able to see the indifference in my narcissistic mom and started to think that something was off and gradually i started to see through her bs behavior as soon as i moved out and started to have my own normal relationships with normal people...
With me it’s my grandchildren. I’m terrified for them. Please address when your children are these monsters and you see what them using their children as tools for so many reasons while they are still very, very young. I’ve tried everything. I can’t help my grandchildren. 😢
Yes! Interested in this topic as I have experienced this and it resulted in souch trauma for me and my kids when they were young. The results were terribly devastating.
I would love to go on the show and tell my story. I spent 23 years with a malignant covert. Narcissist, we had 2 daughters together. The oldest one has been alienated from me for the last four years, the abuse I suffered and went through was unbelievable, I do something very wrong, but I just could not put my finger on it.And he would twist everything to be my fault, if he went drinking and failed to come home at a decent hour, and I said anything.
To him, he would twist everything and say ridiculous. Things like, why would you be worried about where I was?When there are two bowls and a spoon in the sink that you could have been washing, i kept trying to tell him two bowls in the sink have nothing to do with his drinking problem, he filed for divorce two months before he even told me, he gouged his own arm and had me arrested for domestic abuse. Too many things to mention in this post, i just can't believe he went crawling back to his ex wife and now they are already remarried and have been for about seven months. Good luck to her.I am happy to be out
Sad that the internet is making these monsters more successful..very horrifying time we are in...am relieved to hear you Dr. Phil talking about the subject matter.
You are completely on spot...I cut my narcissistic abusers off for good....forever....
When I worked in sales we had to set all empathy aside unless it would help us close a sale. So many of the top sellers had many narcissistic and antisocial characteristics. Even my own boss, who I seen as a friend, told me to manipulate elderly people in order to make sales. I quit as soon as I found another job. Working with so many narcissists, and a company built on manipulation, completely drained me emotionally.
Omg! The Cadillac dealership tried to steal money from my elderly mother 5X!!!
That's sales for ya.
Good for you Ash
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All companies are build on manipulation, manipulation of workers by exploiting them and on manipulation of selling items overly expensive, this is the only meaning of this system to products as much as profit as possible to owners of businesses.
It is the nature of profit motive system.
I criticized my ex boyfriend for the first time and he choked me and beat me up...shocked me...now I'm free from that relationship...never felt fear before and I won't ever again...
Dr Phil I love & trust you because I’ve watched you for years. . I’m so happy you are talking about this subject. I got caught in the web of a covert narcissist & I had a really hard time believing that “the most wonderful man I’ve ever met “wasn’t real! . I think If I heard it from you I would have believed it sooner. You are helping many by doing this. Thank you!
Never argue, do not debate, do not bite their bait, don't let them run your life and don't let them control you and stay away from them. They are willing to be nice to you just so they can get an ammunition they can fire back at you in the long run. Thank you Dr. Phil for all these advices. May God bless you more to help people who are going through some sort of this situation.
So glad to see you bring more awareness to narcissism! I think it’s a much bigger problem than people realize. Narcissists are so good at charming people at the beginning of a relationship, and, before you know it, you’re in a painful, confusing and impossible situation!! You will actually become sick physically, emotionally and spiritually!
Someone that I know invited me last minute to a fundraising event and said "I want to see you there." First of all, you don't try to force someone to come to a fundraising event or anywhere for that matter. Secondly, you don't invite someone last minute to something and expect them to be able to show up. Thirdly, she did this because she wanted to look good to show the organization how many people she could get to show up to the fundraiser.
Rachael Pendleton - Kudos for seeing through the nonsense!
Dearest Dr Phil. At my age of 70, l m learning so much. I m ever thankful & grateful to God that nothing untoward had happened to me all these years. I didn't realize i was living in such an evil world. I did come across such "Narsissist "character in the past. But being simple minded l just brush them off, ignore them & remove myself from those people. This word "Narsissist" is new in my vocabulary. Thank you.
Just broke up with a narcissistic guy went for my stuff at his house and called it quits you can never do enough for these people they like using everyone and taking advantage of all I'm glad I'm over it I'm better than that and put myself up on a pedestal even if he never did. Family and I are thinking about relocating to Florida maybe that would be a better life a lot of distance away from him for sure thank you Dr Phil for your great advice and lectures.
I'm so glad Dr Phil talked about pets. I worked as a vet tech for 15 years and I've encountered my share of narcissists. Doctors and techs alike. If the focus is the pets then we're good...if I had to contend with a doctor or vet tech that thought they were God's gift...I can tell you the focus WAS NOT ON THE PET.🤷♀️
My ex-husband was a very dangerous narcissist. He would keep me from my friends and family for the 20 years we were married, take my paycheck that I earned as a school teacher and tell me he had to pay bills with it until I found out we had to file for bankruptcy. he would accuse me of all kinds of things that weren’t true, but would lock me out of the house, drag me downstairs, or hold a gun to my head, until I admitted that what he was saying was true. Later, he would come back and use that information against me when it wasn’t even true in the first place. I just didn’t want to die. my advice to women is to get away from this type of person as fast as they can if they value their life. He would threaten me so badly when I would tell him I was leaving. For example, he was a suspect in a murder investigation in 1994, that ended up being a cold case file. I always felt funny about the whole situation, but of course he told me he had nothing to do with it. That is, until we would have a fight, and he would bring it up and say don’t forget… I could make you disappear forever, and no one would ever know what happened to you. Thank you, Dr. Phil, for talking about this very serious topic. Fortunately, he cheated on me in 2012 and I found out about it when he fell asleep after taking his Ambien and that was my ticket out of this relationship. I am now married to a wonderful man with a kind heart and who makes me very happy.
Raw. Unsweetened. Truth. Period.
I was with a malignant narcissist for 9 years. I had a child with him. Now I can’t look in the mirror and lost all my confidence. From all the times of him discarding me and telling me how I was worth nothing. I couldn’t stand for it to happen to my daughter so I left finally.
You can build up your confidence with healthy positive self talk. If you wouldn’t say it to your friends, don’t say it to yourself. Be kind to yourself.
@@beckyringley Yes but if the seed of your insecurity translates into your life everyday, in the form of self confidence, you're screwed for all eternity, you would need to get back your source power through the act of letting go. By never acting on the original thought to have insecurity.
Same boat , had three kids, 10 years. He was in and out so many times; leaving me for other women. Was physically Abusive, gas light me as if I was the problem… i remember times where I didn’t say a word when he’d yell at me, just be in tears.
I put up with a lot to keep my “family” together. He hasn’t seen his kids in two years now and avoided paying support. He had another kid with someone else. I’ve been working two jobs to provide for the kids. Can’t say I’ve been doing terrible but always busy. But often time I get in my feelings and I have to remind myself he’s not who I thought he was, it wasn’t my fault and he doesn’t define my (self) worth …. Everything will be okay 💜
@@angelaarteaga4584 You're doing a heroic job with your lot in life, and the "lot" is a challenge for anyone. Look at what you have done just today for you, your family and your stability! I thank God for giving you the strength to go through this with such courage and fidelity. Blessings!
Bravo !
Dr. Phil, this is the 4th one of your videos I've watched tonight. I always learn something from you. The covert narcissist in my life is starting to sound more like the Malignant narricist. I saw my therapist today. He said I'm doing good but realize you need to walk away from him. Nothing good will come from him. Yeah, I'm walking.
3 days ago, I had an awakening and then stumbled onto you Dr. Phil, and everything you have spoke of really hits home with me and the situation I am in. Thank you for helping. Maybe I can survive it now.
You are not going to change them! You said it 100 x. After years of conditioning changing will take time if you can't get away. The "trap "will always change but will you.?
Go beyond "survive". Live a your full Life.
Perhaps you'd like to attend 'Aranone support meetings'.
And start saving some money in secret. *♡~
Get the right kind of help and support before you get out.I wish you all the best moving forward.Replay this video.
Wise words Dr Phil. Thank you for opening my eyes. I just need to heal and replay your videos when I feel weak.
Greetings from the heart from South Africa. Thank you for clarity!
A thief will steal your wallet however, a narcissist will steal your wallet and help you find it.
BRILLIANT observation.
That's double the reward for them.
They'll steal your socks and leave your shoes on.
I have noticed there are more narcissist in the world than 20 years ago. The internet has brought them all together. Dr Ramani was the first person to break narcissism down for me. I thank you Dr Phil for adding to my knowledge.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
I believe that my brother's girl friend is a narcesist. The first red flag for me was when she spoke to us about how someone else had been taking care of her child for three months while covid was going on, and she seemed very proud of the fact that she hadn't thanked her. It seemed very strange and I did wonder why she wasn't embarrassed about how she was gloating about exploiting her child's care giver. Now I know why.
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Because they so completely believe others exist ONLY to be exploited by them. They *deserve* preferential treatment. Hopefully, your brother sees the light and my heart breaks for that poor child.
I hope your brother can get out of that relationship. 😢
Had no idea my X was a Narcissist. I have been so confused and now my eyes have been open. What a game changer. Thank you Dr. Phil !
I love these, don’t stop lol the first helped me more than you could ever imagine. It was THE THING that solidified my choice in leaving my toxic relationship.
I can’t imagine a communal narcissist in a support group. What a disaster.
My husband is one. He got called out recently.
Not always! Their self-obsession can actually have positive spin-offs for the cause they "support". Unfortunately, they can burn a few supporters along the way. But they will ALWAYS, eventually, get found out. "Truth is the daughter of time"!
When they go after your family your kids your grandkids your friends your business partners when they go after strangers...all to get at you to inflict pain on you by inflicting pain on unsuspecting innocent people as you watch in horror....knowing even if you try to warn explain to anyone its too crazy for others to grasp ..
My mother is a narcissist.. took me until I was in my 40s to realize it. I didn’t know what a narcissist was .. I stated to hear more & more about narcissists and it fit! I had a “ah hah” moment. WOW. I don’t know how I survived.. The thought that passes through my mind is… is it a learned behavior or hereditary? I pray it’s not!
When you truly pray for what you need, it shall be. You may focus to meet good people with good common sense and courtesy.
*♡♡♡~
It's a jezebel spirit. Their attributes are the same. Demonic
My wife of 6 years , is bipolar narcissistic . I hear you say , ( reward bad behavior ) you are so right . Cause , when she gaslights me , then blames me , very evil , I look back and see , that after the gaslighting and it calms down , I spend a lot of money on her .to make her happy. I give in , to avoid more gaslighting . I guess , I'm rewarding bad behavior .
Yes you are and only you can decide when it stops. From experience I can tell you it won’t change. It will only escalate.
RUN !!!
She did tell me something after 5 years , that gave me hope . She said ( thank you for not giving up on me ) in that moment ( I felt hope , true feelings from the heart ) like there is a soul , deep down in there ! I just got to bring it to the surface .
Really is gonna come down to whether the marital support outweighs the torment. You're going to have to have either a sit-down or standing confrontation with her on a single-sentence view of you as a person...and whether she wants to increase your influence in her life towards being greater. And that may entail a family-based monitoring plan with gestures at milestones.
@@danielray777gsf8 No, darlin' those are just the right sounding things to say...doesn't mean anything. Even an evil person can get one right every so often.
I'm 30 Dr Phil and I completely agree that it's bizzar that people take pictures of themselves.
Thank you Dr. Phil. Your television show and virtual broadcasts help me understand and protect myself those around me. I’d love to hear more about coping with narcissists in the workplace, when quitting is not an option and the narcissist has great influence over the leader of the organization.
I’m just in awe rt now.. absolutely speechless, and appreciate your videos on fill in the blanks.. you are helping me more than you know, please know you are making a impact on my life.. please keep sharing, and appreciate you sharing your self experiences all the way bk to grad school.. appreciate you so so much.. if you ever question if you lost one’s interest please Dr. Phil send a comment or message. Always always willing to give you a ear, as I appreciate your knowledge, and love learning.. may god bless yours
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
My father was a loud mouth, self aggrandizing, manipulative jerk.
My entire family has sided with him.
He abused me physically, emotionally, financially, and sexually. He attacked my pets to hurt me. Nothing has ever been off limits.
My family seeks to exploit this and are trying to cut me out of the will. Maybe they are narcs, too?
I spoke to my cousin not that long ago. She asked not one thing abiut me and was very bitchy. I was the most beautiful child and a child prodigy. She will never let me forget that I knocked her out of that position.
I alwqys thought that they never knew about the abuse. Now it is very clear to me that they always knew and chose to do nothing.
I have always thought that enablers were worse than the people they enabled.
I think you should talk to an estate attorney. They might be able to help you recover something.
I lived with someone like this for a period of time. Being the oldest of 11 children, I needed to learn it was not my job to take care of everyone.I had a lot of learning moments to help me grow out of this pattern of behavior. I learned I had to change my way of thinking. I will share two of the many learning experiences I had.I was playing softball, and I threw the ball from the out fild to home plate. I had thrown the ball so hard that I continued to rotate to the left, I heard a pop and went down immediately. I felt so much pain in my left knee. I could not get up. A lot of people rushed to the field to try to help. My husband at that time was the last person to come out to me. His response was, " Get up, you're embarrassing me." I was shocked, to say the least. I had torn the ACL in half, torn the meniscus, and took a peace a peace of bone off the knee. There was never any "I'm sorry, nothing." Another learning moment that was very hard for me. I worked hard to protect my siblings and my children. My ex-husbands mother came to see me. She had informed me that my ex-husband had molested his sister. That I should not trust him with my daughter. My first thought was that she was trying to break up my marriage. That night, I calmly sat down with my husband at the time and told him what his mother had told me. I will never forget his response. He said, " it was her fault she kept coming back for more." She was 5 years old he was 16 -19. I wanted to get away from him as fast as I could. I went to seek counsel that night. I was told that my 2 year old daughter would be left with him because I had no evidence to prove otherwise. I made a discussion to stay long enough for my children to have a voice and to gather evidence. I was able to get a voice recording of him admitted he had molested the child along with other important documents. I had to learn not to repeat this pattern of getting involved with someone like this. The most important thing I needed to learn was to believe in what I know.
@ddasd; I am so sorry you had to go through those experiences. He sounds like a psychopath.
Thank you. I had to learn. This experience taught me a lot about life and myself, about what I didn't learn at home. Needless to say I will never do it again. I've learned enough not to repeat the same patterns. We all have learning moments in our life. We could choose to learn from them or choose to repeat the same patterns. I'm just grateful for the life I have now. Thank you.
This,is. Such a,sad toxic thing people are living with and the poor little children .they are so innocent bless there hearts .let's all pray for them .I wish we could gain even more awareness,of people like this.we need to protect the innocent. And our children.
Dr Phil, I REALLY THANK YOU...
I met my wife September 1985.
She lived with her parents in LA.
At 30 she was the youngest sibling of four: Sister, brother, sister, my wife.
(I am 7&1/2 years older than her.)
I lived in SanJose. She moved in with me in June 1996. By 1997 I knew something was very wrong, but it took deep suffering for many years until 2019 when I was left bawling on the floor crushed again, and all she could do is blame me and turn my youngest daughters against me... ZERO EMPATHY...
That's when I started researching various personality disorders, and realized she has narcissistic characteristics...
December 2020 I again found myself crushed on the bathroom floor balling very hard, buggery nose and all! That's when I decided to live for my own happiness, albeit not neglecting my responsibilities as a husband and father.
The pain of living with her, and my daughters who side up with her is just more than any saine person can deal with.
On top of that, I am disabled with Severe Chronic Pain Syndrome, which is very difficult to live with.
I have been disabled from severe symptoms of CPS since 02/10/07.
I love my wife, and feel very sad for her disorder, but I must love myself first. I must find a way to live away from her so I can flourish as the living beautiful person I am..
These videos are so very helpful...
Thank you very much...
🙏God Bless You🙏
Your story mirrors mine in many ways. I've been married to my narc wife for 26 years. I have chronic health issues since 2007 that I believe are caused by the abuse caused by my wife and two adult children. Leave and don't look back. I'm out soon. Planning on leaving March 2022
Your story mirrors mine in many ways. I've been married to my narc wife for 26 years. I have chronic health issues since 2007 that I believe are caused by the abuse caused by my wife and two adult children. Leave and don't look back. I'm out soon. Planning on leaving March 2022
Your story mirrors mine in many ways. I've been married to my narc wife for 26 years. I have chronic health issues since 2007 that I believe are caused by the abuse caused by my wife and two adult children. Leave and don't look back. I'm out soon. Planning on leaving March 2022
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Thank you Santo...
It's so sad! Because I love my wife very much. She is a wonderful mother, and does her best to shop wisely helping us survive well with our low income. We used to be best friends, that was beautiful. I know she loves me, I know she does her best. She does love me
for who I am.
That says a lot.
Unfortunately
Narcissism is so very ugly!
Their caught within their own spider web. Narcissism is the black widow that poisons the beautiful person inside them.
Dr Phil is absolutely correct.
There is no trying to talk with them because they take everything so personal. What I have learned to do is insist we speak calmly and civilly. If they begin trying to control the conversation by rapidly changing the subject, blaming me, or raising their voice out of control, I simply end the conversation, (taking their NARCISCISTIC powers away.)
Telling them I will not put up with their same old same old narcissistic
behaviours preventing our civil conversation.
I know that when I can leave my whole life will change, my pains will
surely improve.
I will miss her, and wonder how she is doing. I will always love her, and always try to help her with things she can't do herself.
But I've learned I must love myself first. The saddest thing is she has damaged my relationship with my children, acting childish and encouraging them to treat me like sht... Blaming loudly. Upsetting my young adult daughters; 17 & 20. Walking away instigating them on.
Consumation of the original conversation never finds resolution.
This extra difficult.
I suffer greatly from Severe Chronic Pain Syndrome and its monstrous Symptoms.
The truth is I have spend the last ten years in my bedroom just to reduce the pain signals from causing my brain to suffer, and to avoid their grief towards me.
Good luck Santo...
God Bless you brother...
PS
I think I would appreciate the honor being a guest on the Dr. Phill Show sharing our experience, our story.
Possibly!
Helping a narcissist behold their presented difficulties - in simple conversation techniques.
Presenting them tools for change.
Helping them to find a reason
to change.
Giving relationships a chance.
Understanding when to get out.
Being involved with narcissism
is a real challange.
Forcing deep introspection...
In this it is a blessing
bringing inner strength
(Possibly getting Doctor Phil's
professional help and guidance...)
Yes I too love my wife. It's sad bc she will likely never fully realize her role in our marriage ending. She will point and sputter and blame me for leaving and not see its mainly bc of her criticalness, lack of reciprocity in communication, no deep dive ever, smear campaigns for YEARS, ETC. I will likely always love her for her good qualities but I have nothing more to give her. Im completely empty and she's drained me. I need to leave to get my life back. I like you, have limited income on SSI but I'll make it work and I'd like to return to work once ny immune system calms down. I used to be concerned that she wouldn't be able to make it on her own but I (and you as well) have to put yourself first at some point bc this is abuse. Good luck brother...
Thank you for doing this Dr Phil, so important and informative. Thank you thank you thank you.
Thank you Dr. PHIL for this series. It's so important the general population knows about these cluster B personalities. Can you talk about their jibber jabber word salad? It's crazy making!
They twist everything around!
right on about cultivating narcissism!!! I recently retired...thank goodness. The changes I have seen in our culture over the past 45 working years of my life were just too much to stand. The magnitude of the self-importance has increased exponentially. The audacity is beyond belief. They want your job and have no problems going after it. Management allows/encourages the younger ones to do it, so they (management) do not have to do it (push you out). Then they acted like what are you talking about? You are too sensitive. They are not doing that. Gaslighting. It has been 8 months since I retired, and it has taken me that long to detox, relax, dream again, and just to feel good again physically and emotionally. For management to come after your health is reprehensible especially in health care. Unbelievable, but true. Health care professionals making each other sick. Terrible.
I wish I knew all this before. I have a narcissistic sister and brother and I’m the scapegoat . I should have left years ago and not returned. I am now working on my Exit! They can’t change…it’s the truth. Everytime I thought my sister had changed … oh I was so wrong. She’s a Demon!
I’m a year late listening . I wish more people had been more aware 5 years ago. Now we all have to deal with those who have fallen prey to the Narcissist. Love how you can pretend we all don’t know exactly who we are dealing with.
I thank you for taking the time to explain how a Narcissist is. I never knew there was such a disturbing behacior. Ive encountered ppl like this and it was me feeling like I was the one with this problem they blamed me for
Your so correct and its helpful to understand this disorder.
Thank you so much Dr. Phil for taking the time. The first one I watched was the covert narcissist, and I am dealing with someone like that, who unfortunately is my landlord and it's unreal how much he is exactly like this. I knew he was a narcissist, but I am learning about the other types as well and learning about the other 3. I have a feeling by the time I am done watching and learning them all, he has a combination of them all. Very dangerous and lately it's been more and more extreme. Thank you. I have learned so much and trying to learn how to deal with him because certain things he has said, and flat out lied about will make me see red and completely loss my cool. I have dealt with this for too long (3 years) and I am now at the end of my rope. I don't like feeling that kind of anger that seems to come out every single time around him in a matter of minutes. I could go on and on, and that would take up a whole show of yours. Thank you again. Love all you do.
Thank you dr Phil . Absolutely love his straight honesty . God bless
Where are you taking questions? Here, from the comments? I lived with a Sociopath Sibling. It was horrendous all the time. I am 60 years old and I finally gave up 7 years ago and went full No Contact. It's been very peaceful. She used to tell me all about her 'adventures' in torturing people for fun. Not only is she mean to the core, but dangerous. Her biggest desire is to hurt someone physically. She wanted me gone from the family, accomplished! She wants her ex dead so she can have his property. She was actively trying to do with by making him have a heart attack. When 3rd husband died, she threw his child out and sold everything, kept the money, etc. Husband that died...she used to complain that he wouldn't get up and DOOOOO anything. There is so much I could write a book on this.
I am glad you have peace now. But I hope police do something about your sister so she dont hurt more peopel
Chris.... yeah, your experience here iiso right on.... They ARE dangerous and DO enjoy hurting others especially physically. They will stand over a person who is dying and enjoy taking it all in. I have witnessed this too
@@vindheimar2631 Well, I have called them and warned them that she is dangerous. I informed them of some of her threats. To me as well as others. What made me call them was her telling me that she was going to shoot 2 boys that were riding 4 wheelers on her property.
@@chrisdavis7617 omg 😱 good you did. Hope you are ok 💕
@@vindheimar2631 I'm fine. She's only showed up once in 7 years and my husband ran her off. They killed any feelings I had for them due all this abuse and enabling. My regret is that I didn't go No Contact sooner. My poor children had to endure this trash every holiday out of my ignorant sense of family. That was never a family, it was a battle ground. When I went No Contact almost 8 years ago, my oldest son said "It's about time Mom, they treated you awful". They didn't treat him very well either. I feel stupid for hoping for change. I mean, how long do you wait lol. Dumb on my part.
I DEEPLY have to thank you yet again for your last Covert narcissism video, I've been studying it for 2 years now and could not get it to fit but watching your video pieced it all together. I now see my mother and grandmother were CN's and thats why I was drawn to narcissistic partners, starting with an overt (who was unfaithful and abused me physically once, I had large bruises and got my skin destroyed by him, I was only 14, he was 28 and my first partner) so after that I aimed for the shy quiet guys who turned out to be even worse because of psychological abuse I now see I've endured for the last 30 years. No wonder I've been on antidepressants and suffered from anxiety for so many years.
I now also understand why I've broken it off with all of them and why they fought me to the nail and tooth about parting ways. (It took years to get rid of one and then the next came) So many things fit together, like a long puzzle of questions and strange things that finally have answers. THANK YOU, Dr. McGraw, THANK YOU! Your fathers condition actually helped make THE best covert narcissism video I have seen, that helped others in this so I guess it brought one good thing.
I have currently been out of narc marriage for 2 weeks. He has tried everything to come back. I have more peace since i made him leave. You are absolutely right everything he did for me was always thrown in my face later. Never satisfied. Thank you for your video's.
Dr. Ramani is also a Fantastic help in dealing with narcissists
Ang-ie 3qy - Congratulations on having the sense and strength to cut this person out of your life!
This is one of the most difficult things I am currently healing from.
You're not alone!
No. You are not alone.
I can hardly find a time in my life where I wasn't being targeted or gaslighted by one narc or another. I always asked myself why? Was there something about me that was attracting evil people? Or, perhaps, everybody was evil and somehow I was the outlier. That couldn't possibly be true. I am a terrible liar, and waste too much time feeling guilty for even minor insignificant lies, so I avoid lying at all cost. I've spent decades trying to answer that question. Researching and taking all the pieces of my life to put together this great big puzzle. The correct answer turned out to be that I am an empath. The polar opposite of a narcissist. That I wasn't seeking them out. No, they were seeking me out. It is rare that 2 narcissists will marry. A narcissist does not want to share the stage with their spouse, but requires a partner they can dominate ... thus, setting up an easy win as they dissolve the soul of their partner the empath and feeding narcissistic supply to the narc.
The next question becomes ... how do you stop them? There's not much that can stop a narc. Even an experienced psychotherapist will fail at treating a narcissist, they don't care that they are hurting people they claim to love. But, they are not capable of loving anyone. There's no room left to love anyone else other than themselves. Love for you is just another one of their lies. Narcs tend to surround themselves with other people that feed their supply, so when the empath leaves they are abandoned by an entire community they once shared. Much like Trump. It is difficult for people to abandon Trump because they face political peril and isolation if they do ... ie Liz Cheney. The same is true of the empath leaving the narc.
The only path to freeing yourself from a narc is education and preparation. Oh, and never have kids with a narc. A narc will not hesitate to abuse their own kids in pursuit of hurting the empath. They can't feel the child's pain, so to them it is a perfectly acceptable method of getting revenge on the empath. A narc will brain fuk your kids minds and cause a once loving normal child to turn on the only protection they have ... the empathic parent.
So, the secret to escape is 1) Do not let the narc know you're on to them. Treat them as the God they believe themselves to be. 2) Plan, plan, plan. Stash cash, open separate accounts. Take money from joint accounts at the grocery checkout by getting cash back. 3) Pack everything of value and get a storage locker. 4) Join a support group because the narc will take your friends and even try to solicit the sympathy of your family and isolate you from them. Take as many allies with you, especially if the narc doesn't know them. 5) You may need to change jobs. The narc is not beyond following you, or having you followed, to your new home. They have no shame ... they will speak to your boss and co-workers and try to get you fired. 6) Change phones and disconnect from social media. Reconnect using the new phone under an assumed name. Join locked groups for posting.
Study the narc. The narc uses a standard book of tricks for every gaslighting con they pull. It's systematic. The day you disappear without a word and without a trace, you will mortally wound the narcissists ego and send them into a narcissistic rage. You do not want to be found. In fact, they may be looking for you for years because you wounded them so badly. They won't forgive you.
Same here :(
@@nicolekulikowski2401 it's a process, but once u gain momentum, you will start to see clearly. Narcissists can have you doubting every decision u make. It ends up suppressing the most powerful part of each & every one of us. When u begin to face energy & feel its presence, you will see. You begin to see everything different. Your intuition will begin to get stronger & you will sense all sorts of things. This only begins to happen when u put space, time & silence between the 2. When that happens, you will get to know ur TRUE self. After you begin to feel balanced, then ur able to receive only good. You also could feel that holding on to resentment or anger is only clouding ur hearts mind & u will want to let it go. Letting it go meaning, this person no longer has power over u in any way, u are in control of ur own life, u only have room to get LOVE & give LOVE.
I agree, me too!!
5:24 *"Dr. Phil describes every beginner as a stand-up comedian, actor, inventor, and many others that improve our lives and bring joy to our lives when they ignore you, jealous people." --Narcissists International*
I am so truly grateful for this thank you. Happy holidays to you and yours and the whole team.
I know a communal malignant narcissist. The communal act is part of a buffer so that no one will believe it if anyone (the abused family) mentions the malignant behavior.
I have a numbers of narcissistic people in my life. You've met my parents and would agree lol. My parents are both covert narcissist. I feel I have grown a lot and have become the person I am today because of these people. It is very helpful to understand their behavior and their way of thinking. I have learned to never take their ramblings personally. I do what I want to or am able to and no more. It has helped to draw boundaries and stick to them. My question is how did two covert narcissist end up together in the first place? They are now thankfully divorced.
Narcissists do attract other narcissists, such as primary and secondary . One narcissist will hold the title of prominence in the relationship while the other narcissist is a follower sort of type.
@@prometheuspredator7971 Yeah, that sounds about right. 🤔
@@prometheuspredator7971 Narcissus and Echo.
My ex showed traits of communal and malignant. He said he has Asperger’s. I don’t know what he is, but he is controlling, manipulative, grandiose, has delusional thinking, cannot cope with reality - future faked me - verbally abused me. Did everything he could for neighbors and friends. Has no closeness to his family. Hasn’t seen his own children in 10 years, as the ex has ghosted him when they split.
There were many red flags at the beginning, but at the end - I was blamed for the break up, because he changed towards me. Everything was my fault.
Had a Jekyll and Hyde personality, I didn’t know how he was going to behave from one day to the next. Arguments were too much and he never took accountability. No resolve and the same arguments would come about “ my trust for him” he hated that I questioned him. We didn’t live together so, I didn’t know who he was when away from me. I never felt secure and my gut was always telling me something wasn’t right. I still stayed way longer than I should have and that is what I struggle with the most, now that I am out.
It’s so hard for good people who want to see the good in others to believe that truly evil people exist, but I know they do and I truly feel like I’ve escaped the devil himself. 😭😬 I’m glad I didn’t know it at the time though bc I might have been too scared to leave. Trust & believe I needed to leave. Thank you dr Phil. Sending love to you and your wife.
Too many politicians are described by your posting....too many relatives,,friends,,neighbors etc.
Not only are they toxic,but they try to drag you into their view of the world..
It is not easy to coexist with toxic people.
Thanks for all you do. All your topics on this are spot on.
Your services for Phil in the blank are stellar. I am being helped. But sad cause I really don't have good healthy friends.
I am not surprised But totally cut through my heart.. My 1st husband Did Everything single thing you just said to take my kids, my money, my purpose Everything Was used against me! And he knew I wouldn't challenge him because I was programed to trust him!! And I Did! Everytime! I believed everything he said and pretending to care! Makes me so angry and sad! I didn't know better!!
This is so helpful! I just left a narcisist, and I had to be very strategic about how I went on about it. And your lessons are giving me the words and the theori to help me understand I did the right thing. I was just acting from my instincts of survival and I am finding great support in your lessons. After more than 2 months with no contact, my anxiety is gone and I am becoming myself again.
Dr. Ramani is also a Fantastic help in dealing with narcissists and their toxic abusive behavior !
Wow! The "foot" Metaphor was profound for me.
I was completely vulnerable with my husband of 12 years, he completely gutted me while i was already down
I would love to hear more about narcissism in relationships!!! I recently got out of a 10-month relationship with a narcissist and these videos have educated me so much.
Dr. Ramani is also extremely helpful in dealing with toxic narssististic behavior
11:00+ "you've seen them exploit people" yes with huge piles of crimes that not just cops but everyone can easily see.
My narc is my daughter. Havent spoken to her for more than a year. Getting help from a terapeut. So sad :( but I cant stand it any more.
My son has terrorized me for years too...Just now seeing and trying to understand all the screwed up feelings I've never felt...It's hard to wrap my head around the fact there's no true feelings or love for me ever...And I'm nothing but a means to an end...And actually dust in the wind...
I'm a newcomer to this Dr Phil series. Finding it so informative and empowering for us laymen! Tired of psychobabble. Dr Phil delivers understanding and practical strategies. Thank you!
My malignant narcessist husband didn’t have anxiety ever.. nothing bothered him enough to lose sleep over it ever… It was very creepy. Even losing his job.. or being evicted from his home.. he could always just go right to sleep.
So, on one of the videos Dr. Phil said that narcissicim could be due to being spoiled by a parent or being neglected by a parent, the fact that narcisscist really have low self esteem seems obvious in the case of individuals with neglectful parents; This makes me wonder if narcisscist individuals who were spoiled by their parents have low self esteems because they didn't really have to do much to get everything and on some level they know they don't deserve praise and whatever else when they didn't earn it legitamately.
Not a care in the world..
@@amyfrey444 my Narc husband was both spoiled and abused.. his mother is crazy, and she was wealthy. If he threw a fit she’d give him what he wanted. He had a little sister who he bullied her whole life. She was an alcoholic by her mid teen years and ended up dying before she was 40. Her life with him and his mother must have been a nightmare. I can’t even imagine living with both of them.
@@debraanchante3661 That is interesting. The person I am always trying to figure out is my ex. He has some strange dynamics with his mom. If you heard him talk about her, you would guess that he hates her, but if she needs anything, he drops everything to cater to her. Maybe your ex's mom spoiled him because she felt bad about the abuse or because she knew she wasn't a great mom.
I agree, you need a part five. How do you recover from being a part of their gaslighting, relating to their cheating in a marriage?
Thank you so much for this invaluable series. My son is more of the covert type and in addition, he has just been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. He is 35 and I feel like I’m willing to do more for him than he is willing to do for himself. Can you please address how a parent should deal with this situation? It’s so different than walking away from a stranger.
My husband and I adopted my son at 3 -he is now 17. He has been a progressive nightmare and every family member often sleeps behind locked doors. He has caused so much Destruction and DCF has provided little help. We are in an impossible situation. I would like to give up on him but dr Phil says, “ you never get to give up on your kids”. So what do you do?
@@bonnie8427 I wish I could say something helpful. My wife and I will pray for the situation/stress you guys are under and believe with you that deliverance comes! Either by the fire or through the fire God will take this cup from you 🙏.
@@bonnie8427, So sorry to hear about your situation. How difficult your situation is.
But your son *is* a stranger to you. At 35 yrs. old, please stop enabling his behavior. It’s neither your responsibility nor your place to address what ever ails. You’re not gonna save him but he’ll drown you.
At 35 he should be an INdependent productive adult. If your presence hasn’t helped-and it hasn’t, your absence won’t hurt. I know it hurts but you’re no one’s savior-none of us are and continuing on this same unproductive course will result in the same outcomes.
I’m sorry.
@@tundrawomansays5067, I so agree with you. Enabling, coddling, and rescuing your child, sibling, and anyone else gets you no where, except that you feel more responsible and dependent of them thinking if you do more than they will change. You can not do anymore, because they refuse to change and why change if it has worked this far. Why fix a wheel when it still works. A narcissist is a narcissist and they will never change and you are in a no win situation. The more you do for them the worse they get. They enjoy the "highs" to much when they bully, become verbally abusive, threatening and to include physical assault, their out of control volcanic rages, screaming and yelling to the top of their lungs, playing the victim role, seeing others stunned with a loss of words due to their behavoir, and so on. It seems this man is the "Golden Child" of the family and he continues to expect the same treatment and attention as when he was a child. Coddling and enabling him will never work as the older he gets the worse he will become. He will expect more and more than is what is humanly possible. Not even a parent or professional can meet all their needs, because they are so unrealistic. I agree he is 35 years and the rescuing, enabling, and meeting his every need needs to stop. You are not helping him, but only encouraging his behavior. This gives him the message thst says, "It is ok to mistreat and abuse you. I know you will take it." It is not and never will be ok for someone to abuse another person. She is not helping him, but hindering his ability to grow and be self sufficient.
Dear dr Phill, I should have listened to this many years ago. It would save me many tears. Thankyou..
So true; I however, feel like they're great at reading the room. And they're even better at putting on a façade to convince everyone else that they're amazing human beings, only revealing the wolf behind the sheep's clothing to those whose opinions they don't value. And I know we all tend to put our best foot forward in public, but this is a whole different animal. Because they're so quick to flip the switch from their public portrayal to the true evil they can be, like the moment they go from being in public to being alone.
Agree!
Oh my gosh Dr. Phil you just had me laughing out loud at the section on gaslighting. Which you did beautifully really right on the money. The sheer absurdity of it struck me as so funny.
I can Very thankfully laugh now because the narcissist I was married to, has been entirely gone from my life for 12 years. What a blessing.
Thank you for this series really well done.
I will be sharing this with my beautiful daughter in the hope she will watch. I'm afraid she is romantically involved with a malignant narcissist.
I am frightened for her and my beautiful 2 year old Granddaughter.
Nancy
Wow! Clearing up the confusion about 3 people in my life. Couldn’t quite figure out the behavior or the why behind it. So baffling after you’ve helped them so much. My husband called it jealousy but I knew it was more than that. I have a narcissistic sister come back in my life “wanting to start over” with no apology or explanations on her lies and terrible behavior. Jesus wants us to forgive but I think I’m getting that mixed up with wisdom. I’ve actually had someone at work state “I’m going to get you before you get me” after a warning. I’ve realized she’s a broken person but again, wisdom need’s to override compassion. I won’t change them but I can still pray for them. Thank you for that Dr Phil. Thank you for validating that it’s OK to RUN and cut ties.
Absolutely.
I think the scripture "be Wise as serpents yet harmless as doves " applies to dealing with narcissists and narcissistic abuse . One needs to protect themselves and their loved ones from these people and their toxic destructive behavior
In the last 2 years I wondered why I never had a relationship with my sister. She is definitely a narcissist.
When my husband died, she and her husband and 2 grown children sat 7 rows behind my family. I was so embarrassed. At the graveside, she came up to me and said, now it’s your turn, walked away. No sympathy for me. I could tell many more ‘events’
Just for interesting info: in the French language, a selfie is called "ego-portrait." I think no translation is needed. :-)
Excellent, and noligable advice as per usual!!!!
I have gotten very good at doing just that! Yes Sr ! Thank you!!
Thank you for answering my question Dr. Phil.
That's really cool that you did the study on the inmates. It shows you have a lot of compassion towards people that have effects of psychological numbing, even though they may have those dark triad traits.
It'll be great to watch your next episode on BPD as well, and thank you for the content.
You are literally describing my BOSS to a tee!
The first time I've heard someone mention how a narc won't necessarily lie on you all the time but they will put a negative "air" on you or on something you said/did to ruin you!
A lie is so much easier to believe if there’s even a kernel of truth involved.
Double binding is a great topic. It explains a lot
First off, I have learned a lot from ur show's over 20 years, that have been a tool to better my life and that of my children to live a less toxic lifestyle. I am Thankful for you, your family and team that put it all together!! My question is, can you have a personality type that attracts narcissists??
Yes! Like honey 🍯 to the bee 🐝 the Narcissist favorite target is an Empath.
Yes. It was the model you grew up in within your own family system of origin, and we all gravitate to that which feels familiar. Not consciously mind you, but we do.
I wish l would have listen to these videos many years ago it would be a blessing but now it just makes it so very clear….Thanks 🙏
Lived with N husband for 40yrs. Divorced now, trying to heal. Took that long to get brave enough.
I spent many years with a Narcissistic my Husband and the father of my children. For me I made excuses for his behavior.. though for me if you live with the person long enough you are sucked into it and then I start becoming more like him. I had to get out for self preservation. So thankful I did.
I knew nothing about the cluster B; borderline personality disorder and narcissism as I struggled to raise my daughter who came out of a Russian orphanage at the age of 8. She told me she came with lans to run our lives and our home. Of course we didn't let her, WE THOUGHT! She would bounce between overt and covert and bounce all of us, parents and three other adopted siblings, with her. She is now in her late 30's. I wish I knew then what I know now. I could write a book about all the lies and damage that was done inside and outside the family.
Communal narcissist: the first person in room to gasp and gosh, oh my, a problem, can I help?? No? OK, I just wanted to make sure that everything and everyone's ok, ok? I'm sorry I just care too much, its my nature. Its just the way I am. I've always always like this. I always try to do the right thing. Sorry I forgot what the problem was that I forgot to help with.
Another great video ❤
Around the 32:00 “ you’re not the one”
Love it Dr Phil. Such a confirmation. I’d still have 35 years of research to catch up with you and you say..” You re not going to change them”. 😳. Ty sir
Another thing” don’t let them make you throw in the towel on something you’re passionate about” wow!! We have a tendency to feel guilty that we love something because it’s stupid to them. Really appreciate this sir.
14 years later and I’m still doing my homework. Maybe I am sick like she says. Lol
Thank you Dr Phil for your awesome advice and lessons. Can you please do a video on how to handle a narcissistic family?
I’ve been in this situation 28:30- 30.23 too many times and I work in one of the caring profession. The level of bullying backstabbing and malignant gossip that goes amongst healthcare people is quite frightening and insidious