One of the best product demos I've seen. So many people seem more interested in showing their playing skills that they mask the actual sounds of the pedal. Subscribed!
I think what you're hearing from the Bad Stone when feedback is full up is self oscillation, which can be cool as a sound source for experimental stuff ;)
I love my Small Stone, but I keep the Bad Stone on my board because it’s a little easier to dial in subtle tones. But down side is that my Bad Stone picks up radio noise, so I always have to keep a noise gate on.
I'm currently looking into the SmallStone nano vs the Badstone to see if either will do the trick to replace my big box US Smallstone which has a larger sweep range it seems than the nano SSt. Anywho, the vid was kinda helpful on some level, but as YvanAndrew said in a below post, in this vid, the SmallStone nano colour switch is the feedback switch feeding back part of the the phase signal back to the Smallstone input to be filtered again when switched up/on, hence the more pronounced effect with the colour switch up.... AllaboutafriendONLINE said he can't see himself using the colour FEEDBACK switch on with the small stone ... ... but compared "Smallstone colour off" with the Badstone "FEEDBACK or COLOUR on full" for most of the comparison - that like comparing the Smallstone colour/feedback OFF to badstone colour/Feedback ON. To fairly compare the 2 on similar setting the Feedback on the Badstone should be completely off when the Smallstone has the colour switch off. Not all pedals should be tested with the "All knobs at 12 O'clock" approach and this is one of them. I'd like to see these compared with SSt colour/feedback=off vs BSt feeback=off at different rate speeds and then the same for the SSt colour/feedback=on vs BSt Feedback at 3 O'clock-ish at different rates... for a fair comparison of the 2 pedals. P.S. with the SmallStone nano, when colour is switched on the rate seems to halve in speed - weird. So if you do a comparison between SSt colour/feedback= on and BSt feedback =almost full, the rate knob positions would need to be different to match rates. I did enjoy the vid despite the above ^^ =)
excellent demonstration in my opinion the bad stone has the same as the small stone but improved, this video helped me a lot to decide for the BS thank you very much the truth was undecided
Testing with different rates and feedbacks is not a fair comparison. I prefer Bad Stone for bass when demo’d properly. I think a brighter phaser for guitar works better.
I also noticed the "you get what you pay for" part when i bought the bad stone XD But I do think adding a noise gate before the phaser might make the weird sounds you get when taking it to the limit go away. It seems to be "phasing" the background noise and boosting it quite badly. Also, I like better the bad stone cause you seem to be able to dial the small stone if you take a bit of a time and use a booster, so in my opinion it kinda icludes the other one and has more variety.
Hi, are you still sure of that? I'm talking about if bad stone 'include' small stone sound with some tweaking. I can't decide between the two, so that would be crucial. Let me know thanks
@@frankthepriest1220 I think they sound more different than what I perceived at that moment, i don't think you can get the bad stone to sound like the small stone anymore
@@nonpoint666rocks me too, thanks for the answer. I bought a dod 201 (2 stage, cool sounding) and I think I'll give a chance to the bad stone too. I already had the small stone, maybe the best tone but..we'll see. Rock on
I bought the Bad Stone a few days ago and it gets really close, it’s more of a Tame Impala/Radiohead sound, but it still sounds very Pink Floyd esque, and I’m satisfied with it, I assume the Phase 90 gets the closest tho
One of the best product demos I've seen. So many people seem more interested in showing their playing skills that they mask the actual sounds of the pedal. Subscribed!
Guitaaaar skillz
Small stone - feel like the phaser effect is part of the sound. Bad stone - the phaser effect is above the sound, kinda separate and cold.
Note that the feedback button is always high on the Bad Stone in this video.
Very good way of putting it.... definitely a "disconnect" in the sound.
I personally find the Bad Stone to blend better into the sound like an effect like this should.
I think what you're hearing from the Bad Stone when feedback is full up is self oscillation, which can be cool as a sound source for experimental stuff ;)
I prefer the bad stone and the manual switch is such a plus point.
Good video.
Thanks.
Small stone has such a nice colour to it. Rich and full. Bad stone is OK, but no cigar...
Adding reverb/delay to these pedals made all the difference in the world
I love my Small Stone, but I keep the Bad Stone on my board because it’s a little easier to dial in subtle tones. But down side is that my Bad Stone picks up radio noise, so I always have to keep a noise gate on.
thanks for the comparison. going with the bad stone.
I'm currently looking into the SmallStone nano vs the Badstone to see if either will do the trick to replace my big box US Smallstone which has a larger sweep range it seems than the nano SSt.
Anywho, the vid was kinda helpful on some level, but as YvanAndrew said in a below post, in this vid, the SmallStone nano colour switch is the feedback switch feeding back part of the the phase signal back to the Smallstone input to be filtered again when switched up/on, hence the more pronounced effect with the colour switch up.... AllaboutafriendONLINE said he can't see himself using the colour FEEDBACK switch on with the small stone ...
... but compared "Smallstone colour off" with the Badstone "FEEDBACK or COLOUR on full" for most of the comparison - that like comparing the Smallstone colour/feedback OFF to badstone colour/Feedback ON. To fairly compare the 2 on similar setting the Feedback on the Badstone should be completely off when the Smallstone has the colour switch off.
Not all pedals should be tested with the "All knobs at 12 O'clock" approach and this is one of them.
I'd like to see these compared with SSt colour/feedback=off vs BSt feeback=off at different rate speeds and then the same for the SSt colour/feedback=on vs BSt Feedback at 3 O'clock-ish at different rates... for a fair comparison of the 2 pedals.
P.S. with the SmallStone nano, when colour is switched on the rate seems to halve in speed - weird. So if you do a comparison between SSt colour/feedback= on and BSt feedback =almost full, the rate knob positions would need to be different to match rates.
I did enjoy the vid despite the above ^^ =)
Yup. I agree.
excellent demonstration in my opinion the bad stone has the same as the small stone but improved, this video helped me a lot to decide for the BS thank you very much the truth was undecided
Testing with different rates and feedbacks is not a fair comparison. I prefer Bad Stone for bass when demo’d properly. I think a brighter phaser for guitar works better.
To me Small Stone simplicity and sound beats Bad Stone's additional features...
Great review, thanks, man!
i got the bad stone and it's a ton of fun.
I also noticed the "you get what you pay for" part when i bought the bad stone XD
But I do think adding a noise gate before the phaser might make the weird sounds you get when taking it to the limit go away. It seems to be "phasing" the background noise and boosting it quite badly.
Also, I like better the bad stone cause you seem to be able to dial the small stone if you take a bit of a time and use a booster, so in my opinion it kinda icludes the other one and has more variety.
Still, seems important to remember the noise maybe generated inside the badstone itself, in that case there's nothing you can do about it
Hi, are you still sure of that?
I'm talking about if bad stone 'include' small stone sound with some tweaking.
I can't decide between the two, so that would be crucial. Let me know thanks
Small stone sound so different to me from the bad stone
@@frankthepriest1220 I think they sound more different than what I perceived at that moment, i don't think you can get the bad stone to sound like the small stone anymore
@@nonpoint666rocks me too, thanks for the answer. I bought a dod 201 (2 stage, cool sounding) and I think I'll give a chance to the bad stone too. I already had the small stone, maybe the best tone but..we'll see. Rock on
Great video. I've always been a fan of the Small Stone, and this video demonstrates why.
Bad Stone is more vocal sounding, another great vid. 👍
Thanks mate!
Nice demo. I like the Bad Stone, more versatility.
Small stone for me.
Also the MXRs, mooer plus the Blood Moon.
The small stone sounds much more open. The bad stone adds some kind of band-pass effect...
getting a small stone tomorrow, the art on the one i'm getting is different thou
Yeah lmao mine has the black case with big psychedelic letters on it
@@omarcapaso7156 Yeah i guess its a new design. I liked it better tho.
Both nice pedals!
With the colour switch down and fairly high rate on the Small Stone it sounds like a cool tremolo!
Very nice comparison. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
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"I've made up my mind
Don't need to think it over"
Ya I made up my mind too. MXR Phase 90
Or MXR 95?
Shoul I give up!!!! Or should I just keep chasing pavement’s!!!!!
my small stone has no hiss
Thanks for another cool pedal video.
SS sounds drier and BS sounds wetter to me, almost like there's a slight chorus added
Nice. Does the small stone have a clean sound or does it sound gritty like some do?
It's clean not gritty like others
Very good video. What delay did you use?
Small Stone is 4 stage phaser, Bad Stone is 6 stage, FYI
now play with them both
what did you play when you added delay? sounded pretty cool
Both, totally both
Perhaps the "Bad Stone" should have been called the "Not quite as good Stone"...
“80 year old pedals” You need to run those numbers again…
:-)))
I don't mind a noisy pedal for dubby electronic music 😜
Hi. What of those pedals sounds better with distortion the Bad Stone or the Small Stone? Thanks
don't found both EHX models to be very hissy/sweepy, in a bad way.
You kept the rate up too high on the bad stone
Mike, by your ears, what phaser in your opinion was used on the song Point of View by Silverchair?
I'm a huge silverchair fan. At that time Daniel used the Ehx Small Stone, but the classic version.
@@gasarockband thanks i didn't know it, thank you very much
Thanks for asking this question! Love Daniel John's guitar sounds, playing and chord progressions to this day!
@@carolinehaf21 if you like the song, use a maxon pt999, it sounds very similar
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What pedalboard is that exactly? That is the perfect size for what I need.
The Pedaltrain Nano
which one for Pink Floyd sound? 🙏
I bought the Bad Stone a few days ago and it gets really close, it’s more of a Tame Impala/Radiohead sound, but it still sounds very Pink Floyd esque, and I’m satisfied with it, I assume the Phase 90 gets the closest tho