The Cure for Superhero Fatigue: SUPERMAN (1978)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- It's important to go back to your roots to understand what made you special in the first place. While not the first live action Superman--not by a longshot--1978's feature film was groundbreaking in many, many ways.
If you're looking for a "review" in the traditional sense, then let me just say I love this movie. This video, however, is a "review" in the literal sense (using the Miriam-Webster definition "a retrospective view or survey"), in that I'm going over the history of the film and its place in cinema history.
In other words, please stop commenting on how my videos aren't what you consider "reviews."
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00:00 Superhero Fatigue
01:34 Intro: History of Superman
03:51 Disclaimer and Sources
04:58 Production Background
08:56 Patreon Thanks
09:47 Casting
14:07 Filming
16:21 Release & Legacy
18:40 Opinion & Analysis
22:02 Outro
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The best special effect in that movie is Christopher Reeve. He will always be Superman.
He remains by far the best of them.
Story goes the first in costume shot was also the reveal of Superman in the movie. The script was just Superman flying over the camera. It should have been a quick, easy scene and they'd all be done by lunch.
Christopher Reeve was actually a hang glider pilot, and knew how moving his body would affect the direction of flight. So he gets going towards the cameras and shifts his weight in the harness and created the graceful arc we see in the film. For a moment, there was silence on the set; then everyone burst out cheering, knowing that they were working on something special.
No love for George Reeves? I grew up with both live versions!
@@pulsarstargrave256 I still love George Reeves! He’s the second best. 😎
Superman 1978 is the ultimate Superhero movie. And Christopher Reeve is *_the_* definitive Superman!
Superman the Movie is still pretty good,but,I want an updated,modern-SUPES-film for modern audiences.There have been only 2 modern Superman films so far: Superman Returns and Man of Steel. Yeah,I know Gun says he's ready to do another take on the man of steel ( too many guest stars for my taste ) it should be a lone SUPES film,no guest stars.
People don't have "superhero fatigue".
They have "awful storytelling fatigue".
It's no coincidence that the most popular characters and storylines from superhero movies are drawn from
comic book plots created decades ago. Once creators wandered away from that template and started telling
their own stories the last few years, the contrast in qualitative storytelling became fairly evident.
When I collected comics as a kid, the stories were generally written by people that had experienced
the Great Depression and WWII.
Their message was simple: Everyone can be hero.
Around the turn of the century the postmodernists started influencing the industry.
And their message was simple: Everyone can be a villain.
I feel almost the exact same way about this film as I do Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
I like it for what it represents more than the film itself.
And both have a far better sequel that replace exposition with "explosition"... :)
Agreed 😊😊
well stated, Indy!
I'd also say it's CGI fatigue. How many times can we watch "big fight destroy city" knowing it's just actors in front of a green screen?
Valid point@@aidanlynn
Like "Star Wars" audiences were not used to opening applauding and cheering during a movie. When Superman soared, our souls soared as well. "Superman" is still the superhero film by which all others are measured.
FYI: Though Lex Luthor has always been bald, Gene Hackman refused to have his head shaved.
He used a bald wig, and his own hair as if a wig on a bald head, which worked in favor of the way Hackman portrayed Lex Luthor, with charisma and vanity.
John Williams' complete score is available on a 3CD set from the La-La Land Records soundtrack label. It was mastered from the original 2-inch 24-track tapes. Spectacular sound quality.
Ooh, that sounds like something I must have.
The music is top notch.
I was lucky to get a copy before it went out of print.
This was the first movie I saw as a kid without my parents or other guardians. I was 8 years old.
You hit the nail on the head with 'Superman being an archetype of the immigrant story. When I was a young immigrant here America, this part of the story connected with me more than anything.
Superman is also an-ALIEN-pretending to be human.
Great review of Superman but one correction: The Salkinds didn't understand Superman at all. It was Richard Donner and his team who made sure the American idea of Superman was maintained.
Agreed. It was Donner who was the driving force behind the Superman I always loved most, thanks in no small part to the inspired acting of Christopher Reeve. It is not only my favorite superhero film but one of my favorite films of any genre.
Read about Ilya Salkind's Superman III script, he clearly understood Superman but Warner Bros. turned it down.
@anthonylaudati Debatable. From what I've read, seen, and heard, it seems to me Ilya definitely understood Superman, whereas Donner understood proper Hollywood filmmaking, but I'll give you a heart anyway, in the spirit of the season.
@@TheUnapologeticGeek Problem was that Donner took too long and was too expensive, he left an entire hour worth of footage in the cutting room with special effects, the amount of money spent on that footage would have helped a movie like Superman IV
Thanks for a great vid - the one line that always stuck out for me is:
Superman: Easy, miss. I've got you.
Lois Lane: You - you've got me? Who's got you?
Margot Kidder was great, tho overlooked due to the equally great Christopher Reeves (he says slowly lifting his shoulders and straightening his back 😛)
This is essentially a sci-fi retelling of the story of Moses (Siegel and Shuster, the creators of Superman, were the sons of Jewish immigrants): Superman escapes death as an infant, just like Moses, and is sent in a spaceship (the equivalent of the wicker basket in the biblical story) to Earth, where he's taken care of by people who are not his biological family (Moses is raised at the court of the Pharaoh) and becomes a savior.
And Moses himself a retelling of the legend of Perseus and Perseus from Sargon the great.
I think winter Mario Puzo imagined it as an allegory of Christ being sent to Earth by his father to save mankind. There's even a not-so-subtle line in the film from Marlon Brando, playing Jor'El that says "They are a good people, Kal'El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show them the way. For this reason I send them you, my only son."
You can make just about any movie to represent whatever you want if you really want to.
Superman didn't "turn the world the other way". Superman fly so fast, that he traveled backwards in time. The visualization of going backwards in time was the planet rotating in reverse. After changing the past, he traveled forward in time again.
I’m so thrilled I looked up a review of 1951’s The Thing From Another World, as this led me to your channel. I, too, am unapologetically a geek, always have been, and always will be. And my very favorite genre are the old 50s sci-fi movies. Some people call them ”B” movies, and for sure, some really, really are. LOL! But there are really interesting movies from that era as well., like Forbidden Planet, and The Day The Earth Stood Still. Thanks so much for reviewing these movies. I’m so glad to have found your channel and I’m so glad to have subscribed. Take care, thanks for reading , and have a great day.
What makes it great is it’s an example of inspiration and that in spite of what is going on in the world, there’s still hope and there are good men in this world.
It’s the ultimate expression of nature vs nurture. A man raised to not just do good but be good.
While I love Superman Returns and MoS for various reason. There are things they lack. However Superman and Lois probably is the closest to capturing what Superman The Movie is expressed. Tyler Hoechlin’s Superman has similar qualities Reeves Superman. He has a great mix of Reeve and Cavill’s Superman.
“And over the last few years we have heard a lot about something called ‘family values’. And like many of you, I have struggled to figure out what that means. And since my accident, I've found a definition that seems to make sense. I think it means that we're all family. And that we all have value.”
Christopher Reeve, speaking at the Democratic National Convention in 1996.
What a Super Man.
Yvonne Blake made a "turquoise green" Superman costume for Reeve. The color blue would have bled into VFX shots.
The Superman theme from John Williams IS the greatest Comic Book movie theme.
And an interesting Easter egg is Perry White's comment about "in his 40 years on the Job", Clark is the fastest typist he's ever seen, which means Perry started life as a newspaper man in 1938, the year Superman debuted!
The fatigue is also representative of how studios pile hundreds of millions of dollars and base their entire slot of films (for years) around big summer movies and have done so, in a lopsided fashion, since Jaws. I don't mind that some of these franchises have advanced certain technologies but they do consume too much studio money that would be better spent on multiple smaller films and development of better material. If these big films fail to produce an equally huge profit, they can cripple a studio.
A few other things are; the feature film format doesn't really suit certain adaptations and should be released as 10+ episode series, the AWFUL tendency to shoot multiple origin story versions, and contractual obligations with different directors, writers and actors.
Yes. This Exactly. Superhero movies don't have to be crap. They just need to be made with some love and respect for the source material. Superman 1978 is still the definitive movie for the character. Even though it is dated by its time and techniques, it presents a hero who inspires because he does not waver in doing good. Modern Hollywood's two mistakes are poor writing in general and trying to cram modern issues into every movie. They forget that people go to movies to escape modern issues for a few hours. Just give us a Superman who is good and has some of the warmth Christopher Reeve brought to the role. It will make money.
I favor Superman II over Superman I. Superman: The Movie did a great job of capturing the story from years gone by. I remember a general stating in '80 he believed Americans were looking for something to cheer about. That was probably the magic of Superman: The Movie.
Regarding superhero theme songs, I’ve got your back. Those are the best 3
There is no question which one is my favorite, as there is also no question which one has the ultimate theme. Christopher Reeve forever
A fun, entertaining late 70s bash. It would have been very interesting if Richard Donner had been involved with all the Christopher Reeves era movies. Definitely better. Not surprising...a great John Williams soundtrack.
New to your channel and just subscribed!!! Great video on a great film. Appreciate you presenting this! Can’t wait to watch your other videos.
Awesome! Thank you!
First movie I saw and went home, got my younger brother and took him to the next showing
I love your editorializing at the end, couldn't agree more!
Thanks you and Merry Christmas and have a Happy New year!
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you as well! Thank you kindly!
John williams Superman theme and Elfman's Batman are the two top themes hands down. Nothing else comes close because o don't think any of the composers thought on a way of themes. Giacchino comes close for the Batman
I'd also say it's CGI fatigue. How many times can we watch "big fight destroy city" knowing it's just actors in front of a green screen?
Chris Reeve`s Superman, Is hands down my favorite...So, Superman The Movie is #1 !!!!😊
I think part of the problem is we live in a world now where most people like the villains more than the heroes. Superman the Movie will forever be my favorite Superhero movie, and you’re also correct in that the theme is a classic.
Hm. I never thought of what you said about non-Americans understanding Superman better than native-born Americans, although I have heard Superman being a metaphor for the immigrant experience. I think there's a lot of merit to that argument. I saw SUPERMAN when it first came out. I was a kid and it blew me away. I literally obsessed over it, even though I had been raised on the George Reeves TV series (Phyllis Coats is the all-time hottest Lois Lane. Bar none!) It remains one of my favorite movies of all time, although my favorite is the Richard Donner cut of SUPERMAN II. BTW - John Williams rules!
The first 2 Superman movies back go back make one great long movie. The first is less climactic in my opinion with a dumb ending, but it does a good job introducing the world and the characters. The 2nd is where the stakes are raised and Superman becomes an underdog for the first time ever (or at least for the first time without the use of a rare substance from his home planet).
If I had to pick just one between the two, it would be the sequel. I love the three Kryptonian villains who only appeared briefly in the first one. And I prefer the theatrical cut vs. the Donner cut, mainly because I dislike the ending of him spinning the Earth around to reverse time. That being said there are some things from the Donner cut that I did prefer so a hybrid of the two could have been the best version.
Donner's Superman 2...is the GOAT...in my opinion.
When I was a kid, I used to watch the Lester version of Superman 2 (edited for tv)...on vcr.. over and over and over again... but donner's version is several notches better
They should get Brandon Routh back to do a 6th Donnerverse film with the Braniac script they were going to use for the sequel to "Returns."
And cast Terrence Stamp, Jack O'Halleran and Sarah Douglas as the depowered, elderly versions of their former Kryptonian selves who should serve as emotional support to Superman after he is forced to kill his own son in the grand finale of that original script.
As for the reflection of the period the movie was made, one must realize that audience tastes are also relative to the historical events of the times as well. As a comicbook reader & fan that was in the theater day one, Superman is a movie. I can acknowledge that it's a product of its time. Constrast Man of steel about the same character post 911, and one gets a different perspective on the character and his world view. Neither is better or worse, just of the time in which it was created. As I comics & scifi consumer, story & character comes first before anything else including brand. Superman Returns was a victim of nostalgia for an American cinematic myth of an interptation of the inspirational & exceptional ideal of. For some, Superman represents national pride in the face of stark realities of the times. For others, the human character matters more. As a kid, I read the comics for the action & adventure. As I got older, the characters became the addition that kept me coming by to the action & adventure. This is a lesson that the studios have forgotten, the art of storytelling. No amount of sfx/ sugar will disguise a poorly told story, especially to a reader. Peace.
Agree. You can fix a movie with bad sfx with a good story, but you can't fix a movie with a bad story with great sfx.
Christopher Reeve nailed both parts like no other actor has before or since, not even Kirk Alyn and Tyler Hoechlin, although they certainly did better than most. Reeve's performances removed all doubt as to why people wouldn't recognize Clark as Superman and vice versa.
The live flying scenes are still impressive, but the composites and projection shots leave something to be desired. Even so they really nailed the spirit of the Superman story.
They sure don't make them like this anymore. Such a beautiful and epic film, with tremendous scale and heart and the ultimate blueprint for superhero films, which is why it still holds up so well to this day. And Christopher Reeve is the perfect example of why casting the right person in a role is so vital to a film's success. Plus Margot Kidder, she was so beautiful :) The all-important heart and characters in modern superhero films are now substituted with choppy editing of big effect sequences and superficial spectacle, and they are mainly used as a vehicle to push an agenda onto the audience. Which is why so many of them fail :)
19:59 - Thank you. The "turning the world the other way thing" knocked me right out of my willing suspension of disbelief. I remember sitting there in the theater and fanwanking it: "He's not supposed to be turning it. He's exceeding the speed of light, so of course it looks like the Earth's rotation is reversing," but I didn't quite buy it. Most of me thought, "They think we're stupid."
I was so captivated by this film I never once cared about that.
CHRISTOPHER REEVE FOREVER
The movie is a fantasy before Brando speaks; there is a young boy flipping through a comicbook that bleeds into the daily planet globe & intro theme song. Also Dick has stated that the movie is a fantasy by dent of the opening. Sequence.
@10:20, Muhammad Ali, was also considered for the role of superman... UNBELIEVABLE!
cue classic GR narration: thanks, great job. There's a secret influence to the north. _a never ending battle …_
_Yes, it's Superman! Strange visitor from another planet with powers and abilitites far beyond those of mortal men!_
Still the greatest super-hero movie ever made!!
Happy new year 🎉
Thank you sir. Right back atcha!
I will always have fond memories of “Doopada” as we used to call him. And good luck with Part II-that’s a legal and rumor mongering nightmare! (Also, excellent hockey jersey! 😂)
I’ll have to work up to part II! If I start researching now, maybe I’ll get it all figured out by next Christmas.
It’s not superhero fatigue. It’s bad superhero movie fatigue.
I liked "The Marvels" ok. BIG fan of "Superman: The Movie." The 3 hour, 8 minute cut of "Superman: The Movie" is my favorite version which Warner Brothers released on Blu Ray in Widescreen cinemascope in 2017 (not streaming). There is more John Williams music and more action scenes in the 3 hour "Long TV Version."
No exaggeration; I've seen (including alternate cuts) Superman the Movie over 1000 times. Including two special screenings on the big screen.
Same. Hundreds of views during my childhood and other hundreds in my adult life. It's one of the very few superhero movies that i still think it's a 10/10
MOS ....i love that and thrilled that it was a serious,adult movie as opposed to the cheeky Donner movie that was, primarily, aimed at kids with a wink to the adults
A young Christopher Reeve appeared in a 1974 JC Penny TV spot.
Super excellent job 👏 👍 👌 🙌 😀 😄
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I'd argue the first one that was comic book like but not based on any comic was Star Wars. I agree with Archie Goodwin on that.
Greetings from South Carolina merry Christmas 🎉
Merry Christmas, Danny!
Superhero fatigue vs bad writing.
You forgot to mention that the producers also wanted Mohammed Ali to play the title role of Superman.
If I talked about every single person they wanted to play Superman, this video would be an hour long! 😂
I liked your work on this video. I just wanted to say that, in my opinion, it's quite wrong to think that Superman is the model of the perfect American. I know the character was created in different conditions, and it was a good thing for the country to make it a symbol. Superman today is a symbol of hope in many parts of the world and nobody but the americans still view Superman as an american. Donner/ Chris Reeve Superman is not american. He's human. That's his peak adaptation in any support. Donner really gave us the best superhero movie. I can't wait to see Gunn's take on Superman ( i love (more or less) every iterations anyway ) but they can't make a better Superman movie than Superman: The Movie ! Just that title sales everything.
Loved it at the time but I'm happy to never see another big budget superhero movie ever again, especially those disappearing up there own arses with multiverses and requiring hours of homework to get up to speed. Also just finish the bloody film, don't require a tedious credit advert for the next one! Happy New Year
Well known wine expert and writer Oz Clarke also appears as a boat robber
The scene with the Original Lois Lane, wasn't deleted from the movie.
I don’t consider myself A hero or villain but A super Human,it doesn’t have to mean people who think’s I’m not but I consider I am.
Great movie merry Christmas 🎅🧑🎄
Merry Christmas!!
@@TheUnapologeticGeekI'm dreaming of a white Christmas just like the ones I used to know where the treetops glisten and children listen 🎅🤶
None of those actors WB wanted looked like the character.
Steven Kahan was Donner's brother-in-law.
Oh, wow. How did I miss that?!
Let me correct myself. They were cousins. My goof.@@TheUnapologeticGeek
Pretty sure the cure for superhero fatigue is a John Cassavetes movie, or some Jane Austen or something like that.
Now Superman the movie that is what you call a movie
First realistic rocket ship on film. Could it be Marooned? How ‘bout You Only Live Twice? Does Capricorn One count?
Superman, historically , has been SUCH A GREAT STORY. That is why its such a crime that modern moron producers and directors HAVE RUINED the modern Superman story, and in the modern comic books, its even worst. They have made Superman, sometimes dark, sometimes Gay, and sometimes, self doubting and weak. We will have to see what the future does. ONE OF THE BEST TV SHOWS for Superman/superboy was SMALLVILLE. But yes, Christopher Reeve's superman stories were great. Nothing...NOTHING...to this day....matches it. Nothing. MAYBE...maybe Cavill, but that is about it.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on one point. Superman, like Captain America embody truths, morals and Ethics that are valued almost the world over. I *_will_* give you the immigrant point, however.
Excellent video, by the way.
I love ol Chrissy Reeve forever and I'm going to say something i never thought i would say, CGI sucks.
Idk...I think superhero fatigue is just a cope for bad movies
The following Superman movies (the Reeve Superman movies after Superman 2 were simply duds) didn’t quite work because a Superman movie always needs a charismatic, iconic and legendary actor to play that role that’s basically a comic book/cartoon persona come to life. Christopher Reeve was that guy. Brandon Routh Superman was mediocre because it was basically a rehash of Superman 1, but was the first ever Superman live action iteration where the effects have improved by lightyears. Henry Cavill didn’t quite reach that level as his origins story was butchered with penis pods and an overly emo man of steel, a - let’s face it - lackluster theme that I can’t even get myself to warm up to it no matter how much I tried, and lines like “I just think he’s kinda hot”. And him not even trying anything to save his father… I don’t have any idea why people thought snyder’s version was any good, the only saving grace of the Snyder movies was the special effects. James gunn’s version is going to turn out to be mediocre, as sure as I’m sitting here he’s going to botch it, and he already botched it by his choice to play Superman. If the franchise can be saved, they need to get a good director, good writers who know and will respect/revere the source material, and cast Alan Ritchson as the next Superman in a movie with a great story, unafraid to explore patriotic themes that made the Superman franchise beloved (truth, justice and the AMERICAN way). Alan Ritchson is charismatic and given a good director, good writers and good script who revere/respect the source material, he will reach the level of icon status Christopher Reeve reached playing the original Superman for that generation.
“Verisimilitude”
You and I definately DON'T agree on the notion of "foreign directors and filmmakers get/understand Superman better than American filmmakers". The only reason Superman: The Movie was a success and STILL stands head and shoulders above all Superman properties after it, is because Mankiewicsz and Donner worked on it. Richard Lester and the Salkinds screwed the second one up, by going back to The Newman's to rescript enough to give Lester Directing credit, and take Brando out. Having a foreign director is why Terrence Stamp hammed it up, when his original sequel material for II was darker, and more in line with the first, and why the hicks in Houston were like Warner Bros cartoon characters. That was done because of Lester and his viewpoint of Americans, wheras the Kents in the first movie were how an American development team see the mid-west. There was no Houston stuff in the original plan, and Lester's Houston pieces were only utilized at a minimum in the Donner Cut of II, as a means of bridging the story to complete the cut, since they couldn't film anything new, due to budget for it's DVD/Blu-Ray release. I get that you put the disclaimer for this, as being an unpopular opinion, but that doesn't mean it's not a wrong one. The proper way to state it is that "YOU feel that foreign directors get/understand Superman better", because I don't have to imagine you're a voice crying in the wilderness. I've never met anyone who feels that way, your logic used to support this is a stretch, and even other youtubers from England and Australia such as Oliver Harper and Minty Comedic Arts agree that the first was the best because of Donner. As for this NOT being a fantasy, the Power of the Subtext is NOT with you. John Williams even said in relation to the reason why no other Superman would ever come close to Superman: The Movie, was because the movie was fun, and theatrical but didn't take itself too seriously. He called it "theatrical camp" because it was tongue-in-cheek. But it was done with the right mix, without stupidity. Superman has ALWAYS been a mix of Sci-Fi and Fantasy, and the notion that someone would take Brando's line as being dead serious and NOT the same motif as the opening credits of Star Wars where you read the words, "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away . . . ", shows how dense they are. It prepares people to suspend disbelief, because they ARE about to watch a fantasy . . . you SCHMUCK. 🤷♂️
You know... there are a few decaffeinated brands out there that are just as good as the real thing...
There's no such thing as super hero fatigue. Look at Spider-Man No Way Home. It's bad product fatigue.
You’re mistaken! Superman: The Movie IS the first comic book superhero movie!!!
Dick Tracy, The Shadow, and Doc Savage all had feature films before that, not to mention the 60’s Batman movie and a few others. Heck, Superman: The Movie isn’t even the first Superman movie, given the existence of Superman and the Mole Men.
Truth be told it’s not uncommon for Non Americans/American Immigrants to direct better American movies than Native born Americans. Paul Verhoeven who is Dutch, directed ROBOCOP. Jan De Bont, another Dutch, Directed “Speed” and was Director of Photography for “Die Hard”. Legendary film Director Michael Curtis (born Mano Kaminer in Hungary) directed “Yankee Doodle Dandy”. Plus we often forget that legendary Dracula actor Bella Lugosi is Hungarian. Gene Simmons and Natalie Portman were born in Israel, and the Van Halen brothers were also born in the Netherlands.
Well, I disagree with pretty much all your opening comments - apart from this specific movie being special.
What's terrible is that Henry Cavill is a decent actor perfect for the part who had a story and script which destroyed the Krypton mythos.
Steam punk Military conquerors?
No. Where is the aspirational ?
Oh, let's beat up on weak humans.
Smh
Henry Cavill could have been a great Superman. It’s a shame he never really got the chance.
@@TheUnapologeticGeek I thought he had a great lightness in "man from uncle"
Superman was a disappointment for me. Lex Luthor wasn't the threat he could have been. Was his scheme all he could come up with. Gene Hackman underperformed. The go back in time thing was too easy. Not to mention create a butt load of paradoxes. The sequel was much better.
It wasn't really that good. It was caught out between serious drama and camp. This plagued the Batman films a decade later too.
Loved Superman the movie as a kid but it has diminished its value over time - can’t hang with young Clark’s fake nose and other strange decisions that were made
it's a movie aimed at kids with just a wink to the adults with humor
The cure for superhero fatigue is for Hollywood to stick close to the comics, make better movies, stop oversaturating the market with too many films and streaming shows, and stop with the diversity casting nonsense.
While the content you presented was entertaining, it's just another rehash of what we have heard many, many times before, which makes your video content moot. Also, I don't see how your video presents superhero fatigue. Now if you presented several films that followed Superman and compared them to the superhero movies made today, and how there are just too many, then your statement of superhero fatigue would have made sense. I would only say that you only touch on it lightly toward the end which again is a moot argument.
No, George Reeves was the best!
I still do not understand the appeal of Superhero Films .I didn't buy the comics, neither did my friends. Having said that, we did see Superman I & II at the cinema when they were released in the UK. (Released, or should that be escaped?). Honestly, I enjoyed Superman - The Move. Soups II was fine. I had my fill of seeing anymore of this stuff with Richard Prior !III. I am hoping that the current run of Films is coming to an end. I know that fans love this stuff. By all means, fill your boots. They just aren't for me.
Superhero fatigue isn't real. What IS real is woke movies. That's where the fatigue comes in. I haven't watched a superhero movie in years because of the woke B.S. in them. Now if they were to make a superhero movie without the woke agenda then I would go see it.
Superhero fatigue is not real! Poor writing and wokeness is.
Christopher Reeve Superman is Joseph McCarthy Age Superman (Silver Age)
TRASH.
Zack Snyder's Superman is better.
i so agree