When we play we use the clairvoyance level to dictate the number of dream cards. So unless you have reached level two you only get one etc. It works reasonably well.
8:30 The rulebook states that for the finale, the 3 cards _must_ relate to the group the psychics are supposed to vote for. I would recommend simply extending this rule to all the visions. You can dump a hand of cards on someone only if you have reason to believe that _every_ card can help to guide the player toward their answer.
Mysterium is my favorite analog game, and I wanted to play it at my birthday tonight with some less game-savvy friends. This video is going to help them so much! Thank you!
Great explanation! Amidst a COVID19 shut-in, I plan on running this game tonight for my family. I read the rules, did a quick solo quasi-dry run...and then watched the video. It helped tremendously especially with the clairvoyance tracker!
We always play without the voting, as we find it too gamey and abusable. We prefer the more straight forward gameplay you get if you don't use the voting mechanic. It typically is a more cooporative experience with more chatter among the psychics. At the end you can just reveal all three (or how many you feel best) cards to all the psychics.
I used to take this game to conventions and literally play it all day. Players would drop in, play a couple of rounds and then drop out but the sheer buzz around the table (due to theme, amazing imagery and fun) meant a constant stream of new players. I've now played this game so much that even with using both expansions, there's little mystery to be had for Mysterium. Its still a brilliant game and probably one of the best "dinner party" games I've played (a very niche area of games). As to the number of cards the ghost can hand out: normally, we tend to play with one card and one or two qualifier cards (though handing off 7 cards to junk the hand sometimes happens). Next time I play, I will propose that you can only give a player a maximum number of cards equal to their current psychic level.
I love this game so much. I still remember the ghost dumping his hand on me to forgo using a raven, but still able to draw a fresh hand next round. And i just looked at all of them, and subtracted all the possible murder weapons that couldve been connected to them only to find my actual murder weapon which was the only one with no possible connection, turning a losing move into a win win.
My only issue with this game was the final ending where I had to pick 3 cards for the shared vision to implicate the culprit. My god I took ages to find any cards that actually tied them to the culprit. In the end I had to cheat and dip into the entire rest of the deck to find something. So yeah, sometimes the waiting the psychics will have to do while you as the ghost has to pick a suitable dream / vision to send the psychics can be a bit frustrating
Absolutely love Cluedo and when i heard of this and got to play it, i was thrilled all the way. Its incredible and intriguing and i highly recommend it!
I recommend that if you're gonna allow the ghost to hand out multiple dream cards, make it a rule that they must be handed out at once. if the ghost can hand out one card, listen in on how they're interpreting that card, and then hand out another card, (1) it's too clear a signal that the psychic isn't getting it quite right and (2) if the ghost hands a 2nd dream card right before the psychic is about to place their guess on the table, again it signals that they were about to guess wrong. if the dreams have to be handed together, it avoids that potential cheat.
This is how the rules are written and how we play. As many or as few as the ghost wants, up to the hand size, but they must be given all at once and can't draw up until they're handed off
Great review, as always, of a great & very original game - although, not totally original because the ghost's cards are based on those of the classic game, DIXIT. And it should be pointed out that the ghost can actually use Dixit cards as extra options! This leads to an obvious question - why can I find no review of Dixit from you guys? I know it's a fairly old one one now, but surely it's one of your favourites? (& if not, would love to know why) You did a review of the old gem Carcassone, so surely Dixit deserves a going over?
Fantastic game and review. Thanks very much, we just played it at work and everyone is hooked. Looking forward to the next game already (and the expansion)!
1. The ghost can not see color. So color cannot be used as a clue. 2. The mediums cannot see each other's visions while they are receiving and interpreting their own. Thus, visions can only be described to one another, but not shown. Only after a medium has collected all 3 cards (character, room, object) they are able to focus their minds on the visions of others, that they are allowed to see them. Enjoy.
@@neliaferreira9983 Oh... Hmm, I thought that was common knowledge from folklore? :P Well... What can happen is the ghosts start using the colors only, to point to the correct cards. So if that happens we play with colorblind ghosts. Or with ghosts that can only use ideas, not shapes or colors. It can keep things fresh. But it can also make things limiting. We like to change things up.
Oh so in the end it's all up to ghost to choose which person was the culprit? Do you need to choose before or after you see what vision cards you have? Are you allowed to discard vision cards in the final round?
Why is it the book is harder to understand, but you are able to explain it is the simplest way that I was able to first time lead my whole group through in an hour
One thing is not clear to me. When everyone figures out their stuff and ou are at the endgame. Does the ghost has to reload to 7 cards again and chose 3 from that? Can you still use a crow if the ghost is stuck to help with the last one?
In the phase where you explain the ghost giving out dream cards, you might want to add an annotation saying that the ghost may give one OR MORE dream cards to a psychic. It's not limited to one :)
The art is beautifully abstract very well done game , the cards well made and i like the playbilyty and that it always can change the script for the idea is what important. it's took particularly idea from dixit (guess and points) ;) well done explanations! lovely lovely done.
Shinethelight I bought this game about 3 months ago, it's a great game but not for anyone. I love so much that I played with friends almost 5 times on a row, but for example, my family dislike it 'cause they are more on the "classics" like monopoly
Hold on, how many people murdered this ghost with different weapons?? It sounds like each player has to identify their own suspect, but there’s only one ghost…
The art is beautiful and it sounds cool, like a supernatural Cluedo, but there are so many cards and pieces :| By the time we set up at the social I'm buying boardgames for, it would be time to pack up :p
Cheers matey. Did I enjoy this review ? *Knock Knock*... "Who's there"? ""No I am the ghost and cannot speak I was saying yes I like the Review"". "Well your talking now so you messed that up!" ""Actually I am typing so that's technically not speaking""... Ok this has gotten out of hand just thanks for the review and lets leave it at that!
I might be crazy but this just felt very disjointed, didn't explain set-up, and overall was a pretty confusing explanation of the rules. Definitely unexpected from SUSD
I don’t really understand the end of the game. Wouldn’t it make it easier if only say 2 of 6 investigators figured out their weapon/location/person as then you’d only have two possible piles to be the correct pick?
benjamin S all of the psychics must figure out their person/location/weapon before the 7th hour or else the game ends and everyone loses. it’s a team effort
the one thing I don't get: picking the actual killer. does the ghost choose them based on the iconography they're best equipped to point to? I've just been shuffling them up until now and the instruction manual seems super ambiguous to me.
there are round tokens with a number on one side and a question mark on the other, you can place them numbers down and pick a random token that belongs to the players look at it and remember it. that token is placed on the question mark placed on the same piece where the numbers are on at the end. and when all players have made their bid on who the murderer was you turn over the token to reveal your number.
I read the rules, and did not understand this incredibly complex game. Then I started watching the very entertaining Tabletop video on this, and while entertained, still did not understand, other than in a general way. Then I watched this very nice man, and still don't get it. Supposedly, this is a fun game, but looks to me like you need to play w/ someone that has played so they can explain this, although I can say I understand the game enough to know that it does not have internally consistent logic (first find the person/place/weapon that did it, except then you later find the person/place/weapon that really did it?). I am going to try and figure it out w/ friends, but good games should not take hours to figure out.
since it types out what you're saying just be aware it's covering part of the board if you ever decide to do a video like this you may want to leave room off the table for the txt
I'm pretty sure you just accidentally left closed captioning on. You can turn it off in the settings. This is not the fault of Shut Up & Sit Down, it's yours.
I tried playing this game twice, we won one game and the ghost won the other. Sadly I didn't enjoy it, really because it all came down to a "Guess what that person is thinking" mechanic. Sometimes the player could indicate the meaning using symbols, sometimes the colours of the card were the main factor, but it was always just 'try to guess what he's thinking', and I really didn't find that to be much fun.
Played this at a gaming convention, was OK but no real interest in playing again, much less purchasing. Skill of the ghost in choosing cards and having players with proper chemistry together are critical to any attempt to wring an ounce of actual fun out of this otherwise lifeless game.
When we play we use the clairvoyance level to dictate the number of dream cards. So unless you have reached level two you only get one etc. It works reasonably well.
That’s how we play too, I thought that’s what the rules say
"*kaaarr* you don't have to do that, but you do in my house" .... Me: I wanna play round your house then haha 😂
8:30 The rulebook states that for the finale, the 3 cards _must_ relate to the group the psychics are supposed to vote for. I would recommend simply extending this rule to all the visions. You can dump a hand of cards on someone only if you have reason to believe that _every_ card can help to guide the player toward their answer.
Mysterium is my favorite analog game, and I wanted to play it at my birthday tonight with some less game-savvy friends. This video is going to help them so much! Thank you!
The Hidden Signs Let's Play video that was done for this was immense. Matt's performance as the ghost was brilliant.
Great explanation! Amidst a COVID19 shut-in, I plan on running this game tonight for my family. I read the rules, did a quick solo quasi-dry run...and then watched the video. It helped tremendously especially with the clairvoyance tracker!
This video is tons more fun to watch and easier to understand than the original guide booklet.
Wow, this made so much more sense than the official game rules!
We always play without the voting, as we find it too gamey and abusable. We prefer the more straight forward gameplay you get if you don't use the voting mechanic. It typically is a more cooporative experience with more chatter among the psychics. At the end you can just reveal all three (or how many you feel best) cards to all the psychics.
This was useful, I'd missed a couple of rules when I learnt it for my group. Thanks guys, love your work.
I used to take this game to conventions and literally play it all day. Players would drop in, play a couple of rounds and then drop out but the sheer buzz around the table (due to theme, amazing imagery and fun) meant a constant stream of new players. I've now played this game so much that even with using both expansions, there's little mystery to be had for Mysterium. Its still a brilliant game and probably one of the best "dinner party" games I've played (a very niche area of games). As to the number of cards the ghost can hand out: normally, we tend to play with one card and one or two qualifier cards (though handing off 7 cards to junk the hand sometimes happens). Next time I play, I will propose that you can only give a player a maximum number of cards equal to their current psychic level.
Don't kill the crows that bring you new clues! They're supposed to start off the screen and fly to it as you use them
That's right! The arrival of the crows signals tension in the game.
I love this game so much.
I still remember the ghost dumping his hand on me to forgo using a raven, but still able to draw a fresh hand next round.
And i just looked at all of them, and subtracted all the possible murder weapons that couldve been connected to them only to find my actual murder weapon which was the only one with no possible connection, turning a losing move into a win win.
1:32 you might want to say that the game does not litterly take 7h to play. :)
You gotta play the 7 hour edition
It comes with a actual ghost
isnt that obvious tho
No, seriously, I thought it took 7 hours!
My only issue with this game was the final ending where I had to pick 3 cards for the shared vision to implicate the culprit. My god I took ages to find any cards that actually tied them to the culprit. In the end I had to cheat and dip into the entire rest of the deck to find something. So yeah, sometimes the waiting the psychics will have to do while you as the ghost has to pick a suitable dream / vision to send the psychics can be a bit frustrating
Thanks man! that was a lot easier and faster than reading the instructions. Got to playing the game right away.
Absolutely love Cluedo and when i heard of this and got to play it, i was thrilled all the way. Its incredible and intriguing and i highly recommend it!
great review! my wife and I bought this yesterday, cannot WAIT to play! :)
Thank you for explaining a game that had THE MOST CONFUSING instructions ever 😂 Appreciate you!
You could also set the number of cards to the difficulty level: 3 for Easy, 2 for Average and 1 for Hard.
Thanks for the run-through! I'm going to try Mysterium for the first time next weekend!
No video’s in Dutch. So this explanation helped us true last night. Thank you!
I recommend that if you're gonna allow the ghost to hand out multiple dream cards, make it a rule that they must be handed out at once. if the ghost can hand out one card, listen in on how they're interpreting that card, and then hand out another card, (1) it's too clear a signal that the psychic isn't getting it quite right and (2) if the ghost hands a 2nd dream card right before the psychic is about to place their guess on the table, again it signals that they were about to guess wrong. if the dreams have to be handed together, it avoids that potential cheat.
This is how the rules are written and how we play. As many or as few as the ghost wants, up to the hand size, but they must be given all at once and can't draw up until they're handed off
Great job and thanks! This got my friends and I started tonight and thanks to you, the instructions made sense!
Thanks for the explanation! We are going to play today for the first time!
Just watched instructions with my class and played (a light version) to finish off a week of wonderful work. Thank you!! :)
And, they loved the game!!
I thought that 1 knock for "yes" and 2 for "no". I'm still deciding on purchasing the game.
Great review, as always, of a great & very original game - although, not totally original because the ghost's cards are based on those of the classic game, DIXIT. And it should be pointed out that the ghost can actually use Dixit cards as extra options! This leads to an obvious question - why can I find no review of Dixit from you guys? I know it's a fairly old one one now, but surely it's one of your favourites? (& if not, would love to know why) You did a review of the old gem Carcassone, so surely Dixit deserves a going over?
Fantastic game and review. Thanks very much, we just played it at work and everyone is hooked. Looking forward to the next game already (and the expansion)!
1. The ghost can not see color. So color cannot be used as a clue.
2. The mediums cannot see each other's visions while they are receiving and interpreting their own. Thus, visions can only be described to one another, but not shown. Only after a medium has collected all 3 cards (character, room, object) they are able to focus their minds on the visions of others, that they are allowed to see them.
Enjoy.
Why can't a ghost see colour??
@@neliaferreira9983 Oh... Hmm, I thought that was common knowledge from folklore? :P
Well... What can happen is the ghosts start using the colors only, to point to the correct cards. So if that happens we play with colorblind ghosts. Or with ghosts that can only use ideas, not shapes or colors. It can keep things fresh. But it can also make things limiting. We like to change things up.
This video is fab! Great refresher on how to play one of my og board games. Thanks!
Don't forget the music!
I really enjoy this game a lot. Its one of my favorite October games!
Well done "how to play" video. Wish I was as good and step by step in my rules explanations when I'm trying to teach a game to others.
Extremely concise and helpful, thankyou
Thanks for posting! With everything on lockdown i wish I had this game so i could play it
It's now available on Steam, so you can play online with other people, or by yourself using the AI-system :)
Love how memoir 44 also one of my favoriet games also is present :D
Oh so in the end it's all up to ghost to choose which person was the culprit? Do you need to choose before or after you see what vision cards you have? Are you allowed to discard vision cards in the final round?
kinda reminds me of clue mixed with dixit
Why is it the book is harder to understand, but you are able to explain it is the simplest way that I was able to first time lead my whole group through in an hour
So the ghost draws the cards randomly after shuffling the deck of visions, right?
Great explanation thx much !! Great help. Only getting into this now. Cheers!
Thanks for the great explainer video! You really helped my family have a good time.
I'm so glad it helped! It's a lovely holiday board game.
One thing is not clear to me. When everyone figures out their stuff and ou are at the endgame. Does the ghost has to reload to 7 cards again and chose 3 from that? Can you still use a crow if the ghost is stuck to help with the last one?
just got it, can't wait to play it this weekend!
Really great explanation, thank you!
hi what other games do you know that come with GM screens? i cand of like the idea of managing a game, but no dnd
Thanks. Very well explained! Will play it tonight.
Thank you very much! Very good video!
Mysterium is a fun game that is unfortunately hard to get to the table because its no long a fresh hot game.
In the phase where you explain the ghost giving out dream cards, you might want to add an annotation saying that the ghost may give one OR MORE dream cards to a psychic. It's not limited to one :)
It said towards the end something along those lines
Just heard of this game today but got a game night coming up next week, definitely going to check it out haha.
This is one of my favorite games ever!
own this game and the expansion i love it too. hope to see more expansions in the future
Excellent review. Very clear explanation of game play.
The art is beautifully abstract very well done game , the cards well made and i like the playbilyty and that it always can change the script for the idea is what important. it's took particularly idea from dixit (guess and points) ;) well done explanations! lovely lovely done.
This looks like a freakin blast and a good party game. I'm so going to get it.
Wow ok thanks for the input I'll keep that in mind. Yeah if it moves too slow that can be a bad thing
Don't listen to Dimitrov, some people have no ability to experience depth, they prefer more flashy things
Shinethelight I bought this game about 3 months ago, it's a great game but not for anyone. I love so much that I played with friends almost 5 times on a row, but for example, my family dislike it 'cause they are more on the "classics" like monopoly
Ugh Monopoly. I choose death.
Great video. You really helped us to get up and running with this lovely game. Much thanks.
What if you threw dixit cards in?
Great summary and love your passion. It's a great game. Love some coop. Thanks
Finally! Great review. Thank you :)
THAT IS SO AWESOME!
Hold on, how many people murdered this ghost with different weapons??
It sounds like each player has to identify their own suspect, but there’s only one ghost…
The art is beautiful and it sounds cool, like a supernatural Cluedo, but there are so many cards and pieces :| By the time we set up at the social I'm buying boardgames for, it would be time to pack up :p
Cheers matey. Did I enjoy this review ? *Knock Knock*... "Who's there"? ""No I am the ghost and cannot speak I was saying yes I like the Review"". "Well your talking now so you messed that up!" ""Actually I am typing so that's technically not speaking""... Ok this has gotten out of hand just thanks for the review and lets leave it at that!
Ooh! cludo meets dixit?
I might be crazy but this just felt very disjointed, didn't explain set-up, and overall was a pretty confusing explanation of the rules. Definitely unexpected from SUSD
The game mechanics are tedious as hell, so it’s not surprising
Do you recommend this as a 4 player family game?
Yes
@@shutupandsitdown Thank you!
I don’t really understand the end of the game. Wouldn’t it make it easier if only say 2 of 6 investigators figured out their weapon/location/person as then you’d only have two possible piles to be the correct pick?
benjamin S all of the psychics must figure out their person/location/weapon before the 7th hour or else the game ends and everyone loses. it’s a team effort
the one thing I don't get: picking the actual killer. does the ghost choose them based on the iconography they're best equipped to point to? I've just been shuffling them up until now and the instruction manual seems super ambiguous to me.
MrPBarlow in the English version of the game, the ghost can look at the cards and then pick the group.
there are round tokens with a number on one side and a question mark on the other, you can place them numbers down and pick a random token that belongs to the players look at it and remember it. that token is placed on the question mark placed on the same piece where the numbers are on at the end. and when all players have made their bid on who the murderer was you turn over the token to reveal your number.
I have to watch this again... I'm confused. Not your fault...
Maybe tabletop isnt for me, I didnt understand anything. everyone has a murderer? but there is just one murderer? Brain no comprehend.
Dixit meets Deception Murder in Hong Kong?
I read the rules, and did not understand this incredibly complex game. Then I started watching the very entertaining Tabletop video on this, and while entertained, still did not understand, other than in a general way. Then I watched this very nice man, and still don't get it. Supposedly, this is a fun game, but looks to me like you need to play w/ someone that has played so they can explain this, although I can say I understand the game enough to know that it does not have internally consistent logic (first find the person/place/weapon that did it, except then you later find the person/place/weapon that really did it?). I am going to try and figure it out w/ friends, but good games should not take hours to figure out.
So Cluedo + Dixit
5:40
i rarely dream. the prospect of having more then 1 dream a night would blow my tiny mind. :)
Gromit try to sleep for ten houts straight
I find it silly to call it "dreams". I mean, they just all fall asleep at every hour for 10 minutes?? We call it "VISIONS".
nice game
I play it on my phone and I almost always lose
Just bought this one.... Can't w8 to play/
since it types out what you're saying just be aware it's covering part of the board if you ever decide to do a video like this you may want to leave room off the table for the txt
I'm pretty sure you just accidentally left closed captioning on. You can turn it off in the settings. This is not the fault of Shut Up & Sit Down, it's yours.
This game is just as tedious as Obscurio
I tried playing this game twice, we won one game and the ghost won the other. Sadly I didn't enjoy it, really because it all came down to a "Guess what that person is thinking" mechanic. Sometimes the player could indicate the meaning using symbols, sometimes the colours of the card were the main factor, but it was always just 'try to guess what he's thinking', and I really didn't find that to be much fun.
You either all win or all lose. The ghost is on the same side as you.
Played this at a gaming convention, was OK but no real interest in playing again, much less purchasing. Skill of the ghost in choosing cards and having players with proper chemistry together are critical to any attempt to wring an ounce of actual fun out of this otherwise lifeless game.
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