How Good Is This Leveled RAM 2500 HEMI Towing Up 6% Grade? || The Diesel Days May Be Numbered...
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- Check out my first video towing with the new RAM 2500 HD Big Horn HEMI with the 8 speed transmission! Like || Subscribe || Share ||
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Air suspension with 4.10 gears is the perfect setup. I tow over 9000ft passes 8% grade at 3500 rpm. 4.10 makes a huge difference.
Love my 2021 2500 with the 6.4. Pulls my 30 foot 10000 pound travel Trailer with ease. It is truly a fantastic truck. No one disputes the Cummins power but this 6.4 Hemi is no slouch. Straight up it pulls like a beast.
What about empty? Can you tell a difference, would there really be a difference long term?
Wait until your lifters and cam go..... its not if....its when... just got rid of my 6.4..... will never own a hemi again!
@@paulselebay4402 I feel this is any gas and a big reason to get a diesel, longevity. Gm has issues Ford has issue and ram is no exception on the gas engines.
@speedshifter101 Yeah, all makes can have that problem. However, the hemi engine is more likely than not to have the lifters fail. It's a poor design that Dodge is well aware of and refuses to fix......thats why the hemi engine is being canceled.
How the down shift when slowing down
Good to see you making some gas truck videos! Also Good for folks to see the 6.4 (or any HD gas engine) is a very capable/cost effective alternative to the diesel. I have a similar Bighorn, a few less features, and about 200lbs more payload. It can't pull as much or as fast as the diesel, but for folks like me, it does just fine. I live in a hilly area with an 8k# camper. I get up & down grades no problem. 3.73 rear, 8-9mpg towing, 15 unloaded.
Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
I have that same truck and tow a 9000lb Grand Design 315RLTS...hardly even notice the trailer is even there because it drives and handles so well! No doubt the 2994lbs of cargo capacity help! You're spot-on with all you mentioned about it for towing. I added an air suspension kit just to provide additional support (didn't actually NEED them). The only real drawback to mention for those still trying to decide what tow vehicle to buy is that with the gasoline engine you have to be much more careful about refueling due to some gas stations' islands not having enough clearance to safely tow through the fuel islands. Since the Ram is not a diesel, the truck lanes are not an option for ease-of-access to refuel. Still, we select routes that have Pilot or Flying J stations with RV lanes whenever possible, at best...always go to the outside fuel islands at worst. On a good day with lots of flats and a tailwind, we can get between 9-10mpg, but the average is between 8-8.5mpg. Great video -- keep up the great work, JB!
Very good point about refueling because I typically go to the truck stop when towing my Fifth Wheel 👍🏾
I have a 2018 RAM 3500 with 4.10 gears and the 6.4 Hemi. Max towing capcity 15,848 lbs, max cargo 3,748 lbs, GVWR 10,800 lbs, and GCVWR 22,900 lbs. It tows like a dream! I understand towing a dump trailer has less wind resistance, but I tow my dump trailer (total weight 12,000 lbs) and I average 9 MPG. I get around18 MPG on the highway not towing.
You have a unicorn truck and I would like to own one of these one day, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Thanks, I ordered from the factory. I just couldnt justify the extra $ for the diesel. I do wish it had an exhaust brake, but in tow haul mode it does help on the steep grades.
I used to think Diesel was the only way to go when towing my 14k fiver. Bought a used low mileage Ram 3500 4x with 4:10 rear. 31,000 mile, 8' bed Tradesman. $37,000 out the door. Tows great. Not like my Cummins but much higher Payload. Gas prices lower, maintenance cost lower, no DEF, no EGR, no DPF, no Turbo. Another issue with Diesel ; you pick up bad fuel which is common with Diesel, all repairs are on you, no warranty coverage. If you can deal with higher rpm and a little slower up long steep grades, gas works ok for my 6.4.
Everything positive you just said is the same for a diesel everything negative with diesel is the same with gas you get bad fuel with gas or diesel and as far as repairs it's no different with a gas engine and a diesel engine if you have a warranty that covers a engine and powertrain parts for a diesel may cost more but they're also harder to break Maintenance cost equals out to about the same you'll change the oil twice in a gas versus once in a diesel for around the same mileage at the end of the second oil change for the gas engine. Granted they are a few more filters to change in a diesel. I still love the Hemi though the 6.4 is a beast for a gas engine.
Good stuff 👍🏾
What year is your gas 3500? How many miles have you towed with it?
@@M5verdriver 2018. So far have towed about 1500 mile.
Gas is more then diesel where we live, delete arw super easy
You buy a spare ecm and swap it in for warranty work so zero tune codes are flagged. The exhuast literally take 15mins to put back on. The diesel engine will last 500k+ without an overhaul. With a tune it won't even know it has a load. I can beat stock vechles with 10k pounds behind me funny seeing people who can't pass a trailer. Maintence is much less on the diesel its built way heavier duty and inless your working it constantly its cheaper in the long run. The emission systems are trash and that's what cause all there issues.
That 5000 rpm would drive me nuts. I’ll stick to my diesel
I'm at 497hp 923 ft lbs of torque and get 19 highway and 14 towing whatever you want to put on my trailer.
Sweet trailer by the way
Ya, but he had it mashed to the floor doing damn near 80 miles per hour. That's not normal driving with a trailer in my opinion.
Or get an Ecoboost. Closest to a diesel powerband you will get.
@@jasons5842 don’t tell the epa 😂
The value in the diesels is undeniable as the miles rack up. Gas are a great option for a lot of people who dont tow heavy/often enough to justify the cost. Diesels are for the guy planning on keeping the truck long term, a diesel is just hitting its stride when the gas needs a new motor. All things being equal maintainance upkeep wise.
What you said used to be true about diesels that they were just hitting their stride when gassers started to need repairs… Emissions completely turned that around. Gassers are still going when Emissions screw up the diesel and they need repairs. Diesels are still the best for towing heavy but that’s emissions just kills these trucks. But that 7.3 gasser is given them a good run for their money
@@mick2798 youre not wrong there. that 7.3 has me looking into the gas option next time around.
@Nate Upson yea a brand new 7.3 crate motor only runs about $7500 where as if the CP4 fuel pump goes out it can cost upwards of $15,000 to fix. Plus the 7.3 gasser will tow about 90% of what the diesel owners are towing anyways
Gasser issues definitely seem to be easier to absorb. And that CP4 timebomb has me paranoid, i cant afford that happening.
Agreed… Over the past 20 years I have had the 12v Cummins, 24v Cummins, and 7.3 Powerstroke. 12v least power and by far most reliable. 7.3 pretty good overall, but very weak front end suspension and vac pump blew every couple thousand miles pulling over 10k. 24v Cummins, strongest by far, unreliable and expensive to constantly fight with.
Sick and tired of the common rail electrical problems, fuel problems, sensor problems, cooling problems….
Just bought 2500 with 5.7 Hemi and 6 speed manual. We’ll see how it shakes out. I do know I can buy two more engines and countless gallons of gasoline for what I’ve wasted on repairs in the 3500 over the past 3 years.
My trucks work…hard.
I have a 2003. Pre smog. No emmisions bullshit at all Dodge Ram crewcab dually 8ft bed 4wd Cummins. I still get great mileage and power especially with a Smarty jr tuner. Im still happy with my ole girl. The new trucks are nothin but trouble.
Beautiful truck. Leveling kit and tires go a long way. Great for someone that will mostly be towing on flat land or minimal grade/elevation. If you are gonna tow 12k plus regularly get a diesel.
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The only negative thing about the gas over diesel is not simply not having an exhaust brake.
The whole towing experience is just better with the Cummins on anything over 10k pounds.
that and the fuel mileage is MUCH better with a diesel. Gas jobs just aren't as efficient.
@@Zeroflax Yeah but how run a lot of miles to compensate for the $10k plus for a Cummins.
Agreed. Diesel will tow 14K at 70 down the interstate with the cruise on without much fuss even pulling long hills and while also having to brake very little because of the exhaust brake. The gas can pull 14K but it wont maintain 70 on hills, it will be shifting a lot, and the engine will be screaming at over 5K RPM.
I’ve got a 2015 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi and 4.10 rear gearing. Towed an 8000 lb travel trailer without any hiccup. 102,000 trouble free miles. She is a beast!!
I love how excited you got when driving the truck in the beginning saying how it’s going to be your next one lol. I have a fifth GEN 1500 that can tow up to nearly 12,000 pounds and when I have half of that weight behind me I don’t even notice it and that’s with a 5.7 L hemi but the 8 speed transmission is night and day compared to the old six speed I love it and my fuel economy on the new ram averages 17 so I’m happy.
That’s awesome RT, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Diesel wont be dead by 2030. It def wont be dead in really poor countries. The ships the bring the oil in from offshore are diesel. The machines that mine the lithium for batteries use diesel. Biodiesel plant is getting built in my state soon. Cummins is actually investing heavily in hydrogen so maybe that is the future? Electric cars wont completely take over until its cheap enough for people in poor countries to own them.
They're actually not diesel. They use a fuel called bunker oil which is basically like sludge.
Great video! There are a few things to consider in regards to fuel mileage. As you mention this truck has oversized tires and is leveled which introduces a lot more air/drag than a stock truck would. The other thing with these 6.4's is octane, you will get better mileage and performance running 93 or even 89. For the weekend warrior these trucks are hard to beat.
Thanks James and I agree! I mentioned this at the end because I forgot about it on the drive 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork the octane tho 👍
Your supposed to run 89 in the 6.4 anyway
Best real world reviews out there!! Looking forward for this test with the 6.6 gas from gm
Thanks Clinton, I did one on a 6.6L just not on the 6% grade 👍🏾
I've been looking for a truck to tow a 23' off-grid travel trailer for about 6 months now and just pulled the trigger on a low mile Level 2 2022 Power Wagon with the trailer towing technology package. My decision process was this: I initially considered diesel and talked to a friend at work who owns one. He said never get a diesel unless you plan on deleting it due to all the pollution crap they put on them such as the EGR valve, DPF filter, and the need for DEF. Another thing I considered was I wanted the most capable full-size 4X4 pickup truck available so the decision was made for me. The previous owner put a lot of professionally installed after-market stuff on it: light bar, air compressor, sliding rack for the box, throttle response controller, 37's, lift kit, and a bunch more. I went over the truck from top to bottom and it looks like the previous owner never had it off-road at all.
I have a 2020 Tradesman with the 6.4 and 3: 73 gears. We pull our 7800lb camper with no problems. We average around 9.3mpg when towing.
I think that if folks would put more genuine thought on what they really need the truck for as opposed to "I just want a diesel", more gassers may be purchased. Continual heavy pulling is a different story. With the issues surrounding aftertreatment on the Ram Cummins diesels being the majority of trouble codes, limp mode and out of service events, makes one consider the gassers even more as they have very little of that. BTW, I have a 3rd gen 5.9 Mega Cab since 2006 and before the EPA attack and wouldn't trade up to a aftertreatment Cummins until those issues are resolved which may never happen, who knows. Good video!!
In my 5.7 Hemi with 8 speed if I set the cruise on a downhill the transmission will downshift on its own to hold the speed down. The 8 speed is a game changer.
Great vid bro. I am a long time Cummins owner and just recently towed my siding trailer with a 6.4 hemi, which is about 8k lbs fully loaded and I was totally blown away by the power. Obviously the Cummins will always be the best for raw pulling power but I think I'm going to try a gasser.
I just traded my 2020 2500 Cummins for a 2022 Ram 6.4 Hemi I got tried of all the Diesel Emission problems with the Cummins, it was a never ending problem it was in the shop 3 months the last 9 months I owned it! I tow a 30FT TT that weighs 8 K loaded heavy it will not pull like the Cummins but its dependable and I'm not scared to go on a out of state trip with it. 6.4 with a 3.73 Gears pulls great.
@@jamesorr2832 my 2020 Cummins has no issues with emissions...and it never will...there are ways to fix them forever
Great video as always JB you're spot on with your assessment I have a 19 2500 laramie With ram Box and 4 by 4 off road package with 2941 payload and 14,441 max towing It tows my 7k travel trailer with ease The one thing I would change Is install 410 gears Never discount the hemi and the 8 speed is amazing
Facts, I can’t wait to pull with the 4.10 HEMI since this one did so well! Thanks bro 👍🏾
I'm getting anxious, I hate to have more payments... but videos like this are pushing me in that direction. I need a bigger truck anyway don't really want the headaches associated with a diesel engine, although I understand the power and fuel differences realistically 90% of my towing is locally less than 200 mi whenever we do go out, as a daily driver this is a dope truck. My potna just got one as I type this today as a rental bc damage to his chevy 2500, backing up into a jackknife and damaged the truck towing a 5th rv...(Rookie) Keep dropping them, I'll keep watching them
Thanks for sharing bro, thinking about the diesel premium, it would take a lot of fuel to make up the difference and when you add DEF/maintenance to the mix, it makes more sense to get a gasser 👍🏾
I just sold my 19 f150 for a 20 Cummins what a difference!! I’ll never go back to gas. The torque is insane
There will always be a need for a diesel in pickups as they are now defined. A 350/3500 dually with a 30k towing capacity will need a diesel or the MDT trucks such as the 450/550/ 4500/5500 trucks.
Love this truck! 1000 lbs more payload than a Diesel mega cab! IMHO the 2500 suspension tows bumper pull trailers great.
Can’t wait for you to see a video soon in regards to this!!! Do I have your email, I will let you preview it when I post footage 👍🏾
If you have the tow haul on the transmission will do grade shifting on the way down once you hit the brakes one time.
It's automatic with gm once tow hauls activated. But you can't beat the exguast brake of the cummins. I come threw town with 15k load and dont even touch my brakes.
Good that you are showing us gas. Now Enjoyed video👍
2022 , 3500 ,dually ,gas ,4::10, air suspension. Ordered it 2 weeks ago. Can’t wait. Options are WAY DIFFERENT this year for the tradesman.
That’s awesome!
Any word on your build yet. I ordered mine sat..
@@danielmiller231 not yet. Hoping to hear something. Anything. Soon
I ordered just the 2500 in 4.10 6.4l hoping for the 8 to 12 weeks
@@danielmiller231 they told me 10 weeks. We will see. If it comes early I will notify you. It won’t hurt my feelings if it’s early.
Well JB, I think I have to say that this video helped settle one thing for me. I’ve got to get me a Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. I want a truck that has better payload and towing capabilities than my ‘18 F150 with the 2.7 Ecoboost. But I don’t have any need for a 1 ton and I do not need a diesel. The DEF problems that I have been seeing and just the maintenance costs as well as the up charge for diesel helped me to decide I don’t need one. Me and my wife is looking at getting a 5er at some point that has a dry unloaded weight of like 9,300 pounds. I’m sure a truck like this would do just fine to tow it every now and then. As well as make a decent daily driver to put to work every so often. I’m also trying to decide it I want the new F250 with the 7.3 V8 gas engine.
I was in the exact same boat. I had a 2018 F150 with the 2.7 and I traded up to a 2020 RAM 2500 Bighorn 6.4 with the 3.73 gears. Tows absolutely perfect and I use it as a daily. Truck is a beast.
Just ordered a BigHorn hemi with 4.10 and air suspension today. Can't wait...decided for a while between the hemi or cummin but can't justify the Cummins. I simply don't tow enough for a diesel and cost.
Good deal 👍🏾
I have a 2021 mega cab hemi Laramie with 4.10 gears and 8 speed. 2500# payload, 16k towing. I pulled our travel trailer 400 miles this weekend. Hills, gusty winds, fully stock. It towed beautifully. 70 mph, all kinds of road surfaces. I did install the tpms sensors in the camper. My mpg was 7.5-8 towing, so that was less than the ecodiesel I had pulling the same camper. That got 11 mpg. Every temp was 30-40 degrees cooler than the 1500. Less sway and never seemed to be working hard to accelerate or maintain speed. The diesel is quieter. The gas engine and 8 speed was slowing me down very well on some grades with grade warnings.
That was my first towing with the truck. Under 5000 miles still.
Bought a 21 Duramax 3500HD. Exhaust brake and quiet cabin when pulling hills were the two main factors.
I must have missed it on your video, but how much were you towing??
I'd go crazy listening to that thing scream at 5000+ rpm every time I hit a big hill.
I did! Made the switch to a HO Cummins and zero regrets
The ECM is actually programmed to reduce engine rpm to 4500 if any overheating issues arise. Gas engines are designed to Rev higher, what the difference than hearing at diesel revving at 3500 close to ita recline?
I pull 12k lbs of camper with my 6.4L 2500 all the time. Zero issues. But I'm a Hemi tech and really love these engines. With proper maintenance, they will outlive a lot more than they are given credit for.
This dude was running 80 mph doing this. While it will do it, itll do 55-65 with less work just fine.
@@dalemllns Diesels don't sit at 3500 rpm, more like 2600 at max effort (except for maybe the 3.0l diesels). Plus, they brake far better on the downhills. Maybe not big deals if you live and tow in flatter regions.
@@beaus3472 a diesel will do twice the work with 1/4 the fuel. The 900lbft+ at 1600rpm will always be easier on the ears and wallet than a 5000rpm wear fest in any gas engine. Poor engine taking that kind of abuse.
@@hahaadventures4838 well a V8 screaming up a hill at 5000rpm will be getting 2.5mpg so 1/4 the fuel is about 10mpg. On flat ground. Fuel usage goes up with rpm. 8 cylinders spinning 5000 times a minute is 20,000(5000rpm ÷ 2 =2500 shots per cylinder × 8 cylinders) shots of fuel per minute. A Cummins cruising along at 1700 is 5100 shots (1700 ÷ 2 = 850 shots cylinder × 6 cylinders) so the math is not far off either. The cummins going up hill isn't kicking back to 5000rpm where the 380ish hp(400ish lbft) is half the capability of the cummins at any speed(1600-2800rpm) the HO Cummins with 930lbft. Is pushing that til about 2100 then the torque starts to fall back up to the 2800rpm mark(385hp@2800rpm = 722lbft) what you are getting for your 5100 shots of fuel is twice the capability of the 20,000 shots in the gasser. Not failing to mention the pumping losses, way more friction, and wear. 5000 miles at 5000rpm will wipe out a gas motor quick. Where the diesel will live at 17-1900rpm for years and years.
I have a 2018 Powerwagon lifted 3" with 35"mt. I put airbags in rear and I tow a Stryker 2613. NO ISSUES
Is it fully loaded over 12k the Stryker?
I've had Chevrolet , Ford , Toyota and in my book the Ram is best towing . I've had them all in 1500, 2500 and 3500 .. I'm 61 now and I drive a 2020 Ram 5.7 Hemi with 321 gears and off road package .... I pull my camper ,it's 4200 lbs and my fifth wheel is 6900 lbs .. I use the 35 lbs anderson fifth wheel hitch and on my camper travel trailer I use the pro pride . If you would use a sway bar and weight bars you wouldn't have that sway and the 2500 Ram wouldn't drop in the rear . Just from my experience some helpful tips .
Back when I had a 2014 2500 6.4 hemi with the rear coil springs, I always felt it didn’t squat as much as a 3500 with leafs. I have no measurements to back that up, just eyeballing it!
You are right, leafs do seem to squat a little more lol
JB, I just ordered a 2022 SRW. Trading in the dually. Just not liking it. I saw a white 3500 Limited Mega Cab while I was there that someone was test driving. I said to myself, “there goes the JB truck!” 😂
Not bad at all. I would go with 3.92 gears though. But, for the cost savings off of MSRP. Might have to consider the 6.4 Hemi.
only gear options for a Hemi 2500 are either 3.73 or 4.10
@@noosh8316 Ah, 4.10 it is then.
Next time - {if possible} - try to get one and do another test run, with the 4.10 anti spin rear axil and the air suspension. A 2022 Limited model with all of the bells and whistles - {OH YA} -. You have a great day JB.
I can hear it just sucking down fuel like crazy when she was going uphill at 5k rpm. I feel they are always have and always will be between gears. Always pinned to the top or way too down in the rpm range
It did pretty good with shifting I thought
Diesel is here to stay. Unfortunately the country will need to suffer through a generation of terrible electric vehicles before sanity returns.
The environmental wackos have no actual concept of how bad for the environment lithium batteries are. None. Once they catch on, we will be listening to that epic reversal for a decade.
Wether you like it or not eletric will be the future. Once we learn to harness and collect power more efficient it will take over. Eletric motors have so much torq they don't even need transmissions, they will out pull a diesel anyday. There have been combination vechles made with all eletric motors ran by a diesel generator. Pretty neat I suggest looking it up. I think hybrids should be more of our focus then all eletric. But yes batteries have terrible emissions. But the world heals itself faster then we are destroying it despite what you may see on the news. We have more Forrest and trees today then we did 100 years ago. I own a business in Forrest restoration, we work directly with coal mines. They replant 10 times what they destroyed and keep it maintained and under protection for animal sanctuaries.
Don’t forget life span of a battery. Replacement right now could run $8,000-15,000 thousand
@@craigleidigjr4170 there not that high any.ore and toyota are getting well over 500k mile life spans from there hybrid batteries, more then most gas engines lifes.
@@mrrod3004 new Ford MachE is high I was pricing it.
@@craigleidigjr4170 close to same price I paid for my rav4 prime. Pretty funny my crossover leaves corvettes and gas mustangs. But I'm getting average 43mpg and I can put it into fully eletric mode
I was going to buy THIS truck from Tate I loved it sadly I had some stuff happen with my dog so I had to pull out glad to see a video on it though!
Thanks for this video! I bought basically this same truck. Gives me some confidence with my 36 ft travel trailer
That’s awesome congrats!
@@Jbs6187 We stayed at our current spot for 13 weeks we leave for a 600 mile trip on friday! I expect no problems! If you do have the option get the 4.10 gears. When I bought this truck i needed one relatively quick. That being said 3.73 is working out great for my needs.
Man JB that's a sweet truck. My 04 ram has been broken more than not here recently. I washed it yesterday and went to dry it off with a little drive and lost oil pressure. Wife's 02 grand has a broken frame evidently so yea I'm wanting a newer truck. Want basically that same truck. 6.4 hemi with 8spd. 373 or 410 as I live in North Carolina mountains. Thanks bro great vid as usual.
Wow that stinks, the new trucks have gotten a lot better in my opinion, thanks Mathew!
@@JB_WhoWork yes they have gotten better all except in price haha. I pull an open 18' landscape trailer with two 60" zeroturn mowers and my 50 dollar 04 ram with 4.7 just don't cut it lol. Screaming on hills and I built the motor 25,000 miles ago so no hard feelings towards this truck but I'm looking at a 2021 ram. I worked for Chrysler in Newark Delaware for over 8 years and love my dodges
Good stuff JB 👍 Still need to see a back to back comparison of the 3.73 vs 4.10. Gas or diesel honestly
Thanks Dennis, it's really tough now that there's no inventory...
I bought a ‘21 6.4 Big Horn 2500 in April mainly so I can start towing an enclosed car trailer. I haven’t got to tow yet, but watching this video got me excited about towing with my new truck!! I’m buying a hitch soon, do you see any advantage in getting a load leveling/anti sway hitch for towing a 24 or 28 foot enclosed trailer, or is something like you used in this test drive ok?
Great videos, keep em coming!
That’s awesome! My trailer has spread axles and I think this really helps with overall control but I think the HD trucks tow extremely well without any additional help. If you’re towing under 10k I would skip it for HD trucks 👍🏾
Great, thanks!
I have a 2019 Laramie, with the 6.4. I've towed the max (14,500lbs) my truck is rated at (maybe a little more). I've never used wdh on mine, and it's been fantastic. The one time I did try a wdh hitch was with a 27 ft travel trailer, but I ended up disconnecting all of it. It wasn't needed, and I was hoping the trailer tounge with drop more, but it didn't.
The trucks are wonderful to tow with. Unless you're towing really heavy, I wouldn't bother with wdh. Your call though. Just invest in a decent hitch that can take the weight. I went with a weigh safe hitch, the one that has the little scale on it for tounge weight, only because I dislike the look of the hitches with both the balls on them. The hitch I have is super easy to swap the ball sizes with no tools, and it's rated at 14,500 lbs, same as the trucks tow rating.
I have a '15 Ram 1500. 8-speed, 321s. I prolly tow and drive as much as you. Flat ground, empty 7x16 enclosed, I'll get 11.5mpgs at 70mph (at 7800#). Fully loaded TV and trailer (11,500) 9.8mpgs. When I hook up my 30' Travel Trailer, 8mpgs. If you're towing, diesel is the ONLY option.
Another great review - did I miss how much your trailer weighed 🍻
I pull the Colorado mountains for me if it has to ride in the semi truck lane up Eisenhower it's poop . My total gross is 19k ish .I run 35 mud terrains on a 3 inch lift stock 3.73 gears 68rfe I can still pull Eisenhower eastbound steep side at 65 mph ... my truck is now 12 years old has 199, 998k on it . What I usually see on the mountain grades with similar gross is a truck with 4 ways on with semi trucks with gas powered vehicles.
Cool video. Thank you sir. My 2006 class A gasser has a two stage engine brake. So they can engineer it if there is a demand. I have a W22 Workhorse with a 8.1L V8.
AND, a 36 foot class a gets 12mpg. :)
Diesels will never die
just as long as we don't get another Oldsmobile 5.7
Love what you’re doing! Any plans to tow with the 7.3? I chose that over the diesel and I’m loving it.
Thanks William, I’m hoping one will come available soon!
The Godzilla? I’m in the market and have been thinking on a few options. Currently have a 2020 Power Wagon. Love the truck but the payload is not enough for us now that we have a travel trailer. It tows great otherwise. Currently in Florida from Michigan. And headed back tomorrow.
It’s greedy, which I’m sure that 7.3 is as well.
Hi JB,
It's been a while since I last viewed your videos.
I too am impressed with this truck.. especially towing, also fuel usage!
Thumbs up on ram's rear coil link suspension with superior ride comfort over leaf springs!
Will contact shortly. Have good news for you.
Hey bro, it has been awhile, looking forward to the news 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork Checking to see if you received my email on news?
Sent when video ended.
Liked those tires!
@@JB_WhoWork Did you receive my news email sent to your phone a few days ago?
Have not heard from you.
@@JB_WhoWork Have not heard back as of today July 21st.
Please provide email address so I can give you news on power wagon.
👍 good videos JB, any way you can do some comparisons with crew cab long beds? Was told great for towing?
I'll take my 12 valve Cummins any day over that new computer controlled junk .
This is an ignorant statement. The mechanical injection is horrible for modern day use.
@@TurboVisBits Please explain , it works even better for modern day use , no cheap electronics and no such thing as injector failure and will run for a million miles .
My friends grandpa had an old dually and that thing ran forever! Such an awesome machine!
@@TurboVisBits www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.drivingline.com/articles/11-reasons-why-the-12-valve-cummins-is-the-ultimate-diesel-engine/&ved=2ahUKEwiQ4suyme3xAhVU6J4KHZhTBQ0QFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw3SfDNxOu3ZbsD1X6jdeT_c
@@Ratridez poor fuel economy, low power output unless heavily over injected, no egt control. It's a pet, I need my truck to be like cattle. I'm not saying there's is anything wrong with liking it, it's just ignorant to think its still a viable solution.
I am looking at 3500 with 6.4 hemi. It has 250000 miles in it. I will use it as a farm truck. Have you dont a test on older trucks? Should I be looking into a diesel with that type of mileage? TIA.
Its a 2014 btw.
nice video and all the good info thanks
Appreciate the comment 🙏🏾
As soon as I get one with the max towing package I let you use it for a towing test your ram 1500 5.7 hemi vs my 3.5 ECOBOOST towing a fishing boat and you can tow the boat with your truck and I can tow your enclosed trailer to see the difference in towing
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I will say this the 2020 just went down with a def pump at work.... #900 in line for a new one in the midwest sector. Could be months before a new one arrives.
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Should be a free pass to delete
@@JB_WhoWork thats what I told them 😆 I know of 2 Denali's as well 4 weeks minimum for those
What gas truck u like better ram or your chevy with blue interior?
My dad wanted a truck just like this but got a diesel and we went up a hill in the diesel and he said man my hemi did better than the diesel did
Have been wanting a ram 2500 with the cummins for about 8 months now but now am convinced on the hemi... could you message me if that's okay, I'd like your opinion
That is a beautiful truck.
Would love one of these with the 4.10
I had an earlier hemi and hated that the rpms have to be at 4800 to hit the power band. Noting like a diesel that chugs along with 2200 runs.
Ford was really smart and came out with a 7.3 big block. That would be a little better
Looking to change my tow rig to a gas Ram , currently tow a 6200 lb machine and trailer combo with my 2009 Audi Q7 4.2 tdi done 60k miles with it and looking for something more reliable she runs at 1400 rpm in 6th at 55 mph. Get 14mpg when towing total car and trailer weight is 12,400 lbs . I am in France and can run on E85 at half the gas or diesel price. Currently spend $10,000 a year on fuel
Have the fixed the issues with cam bearings? Seems like lots of engine failures @ around 60K miles from bad cam bearings.
I got my 2021. 2500 Cummings Laramie and i love it
Same just picked one up last week but a leveling kit and 35's on it. Traded in a Denali that they gave me $10k over what I paid for it. Really liked the Denali but this Cummins has way more power.
Thank you seeing is believing 👍
Beautiful truck!
I just blew my head gaskets going over Snoqualmie pass. I bought a cummings and will never tow with gas again. Lol
Got my 2022 Laramie coming in next month ( same color ) and want to change the tires. What size are those?
I love my Cummins but the emission system is pushing me towards a gasser quickly. 🇱🇷👈👉🤮
Hey JB, appreciate your content. Am looking to order in the near future and debating gasser or Diesel and which D if I go that way. Looking at a single rear wheel 3500 Limited Longhorn. Current needs (TT) any 2500 would meet, heck, my old 1500 rust bucket does, but dream future (5th wheel) would need 2500lb of payload and 15k, maybe more towing, so might as well go 3500 to cover all the bases. Any input you, or the community can give I'd appreciate.
FYI, I live in Colorado, and would be towing over the great divide....so that exhaust brake is hard to ignore.... c'mon JB, I want to hear what you have to say! :D
I've towed plenty with both gas and diesel. Always feel terrible having to rev the crap out of my f150 to get up hills. If you tow alot and can afford the extra costs of maintenance and initial purchase, get a diesel. Diesel is also 40 cents per gallon cheaper than gasoline in my area right now.
Diesel is 6 cents more then gas now here.
That motor was screaming when going up hill. Was not quit in my opinion. 5 to 6k on the rpms is to high for me at 75 going up hill. I had the 6.4 hemi and was not impressed towing a 5k boat.
Hey JB Reviews, any word if Ram HD Cummins are going with an Allison Transmission in the near future? Keep hearing rumor after rumor. Thanks!
I'm not sure but my guess is them but Eaton wouldn't be a bad one...
Thanks for your videos buddy….
My pleasure!!
They've kept this same engine and it's specs ever since it was first made for the ram in like 2012. Ford has come out with the 7.3 big blok. Dodge should use this opportunity to use the hellepant's 7 liter aluminum hemi, make it NA, tune it for tq, and pump out 450 hp and 500 tq. Since it will be for trucks, it doesnt have to comply with emission standards. Not saying the current 6.4 is bad. But im just saying they can do better. 410 hp and 429 tq out of 6.4 liters is just inadequate and is very close to the 345 hemi's rated numbers for ram
Hey JB, you should come to Ohio and do a review of my truck. It’s a 2021 Ram 2500 crew cab BigHorn 6.4 Hemi with 4.10 gears. Fully loaded with every option.
How far do you live off of I-70?
@@JB_WhoWork I-70 is about 90 miles from me.
Diesel was a hard sell back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. I wholly credit Dodge for establishing the diesel truck market in the early 90s. For many people then, the gas was a better option. It appears things have come full circle.
Diesels, back then, just weren't there, yet. They were heavy as hell for the power they produced. For example, a Detroit Diesel 3-53 engine generated 70 hp on average and weighted almost 1,000 lbs.
The original Cummins 5.9 engine from the older Dodge Ram generated 160 hp for the same engine weight. Much better but still relatively weak.
Then General Motors came out with the pile of shit that was the Oldsmobile 5.7
My dad towed a 13,000 pound rev bumper bull with a 2014 ram 1500 and he went up a 7 percent grade and blew the motor up like caught on fire
Almost caught on fire
I have the same truck in a Laramie trim. Towed my grand design imagine 3000qb this weekend. My first tow with it. Average 9.5 mpg. Stock tires. No lift. I’ve been averaging 14.5 mpg daily driving to work.
Government overreach is ruining diesel trucks.
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Sadly true 😡
I'll keep my 06 mega cab cummins. My mpg tune could haul that trailer
What is the weight of the trailer you towed in this video? Thanks
I wondered the same and found his reply to someone else that asked the same question. JB said the trailer in the video weighed "around 9k".
@@farrell19075 if that a cummins would own that XD
That's a beautiful truck. Whats the threshold to go to heavy electric as far as weight?
@@JB_WhoWork I use the heavy setting on my 1500 with 6500 lb rv about 4 gain.
Disregard my last post, I’m not too sure on this one
Manual says 10klbs
What are picking. 6.4 or the 6.2?
If you want the ultimate "Non Diesel" HD truck to test, you'll have to find a Hemi MEGA Cab with Air Suspension and 4.10 gears. Good luck finding that configuration sitting on the lot somewhere through. Ram does not let you configure a 2500 Crew Cab with the Hemi and Air suspension, I don't know why. They limit the Hemi's with Air suspension to Mega Cab only for some reason.
Completely false. My Dad has a 2500 HEMI Crew Cab with factory air suspension. You can go on the RAM website and build one.
@@XploreAz no not completely false because I just did that and it didn't let me.
Sometimes the configurator is wrong 😑
@@JB_WhoWork true, but you can definitely get a 2500 HEMI Crew Cab with air suspension. There are a few on the lot by my house. I was just there the other day getting some service done on my truck and was killing some time looking around.
@@noosh8316 that’s weird because it lets me build one with air suspension. Like I said my dad has one and there are a few on the lot by my house. At least there were a few days ago when I was there.
Could you do a comparison with a 2020 F250. The suspension changed from 2016/17 models to the 2020 and it’s not a fair comparison. Thanks for this video though. I am still trying to make up my mind on either a 2020 Ford F-250 Lariat Tremor or a RAM 2500 Laramie with the 4x4 off road package, NOT the power wagon.
Hopefully someone will trade one in soon, thanks!
I think in time it will be down to diesel and electric. Sadly with the government the way it is I see gas going away but the need for diesel, is too great to go away.
But that's just me.
I've been watching some of your videos and I like what you're doing. It would be helpful to know the full weight of the trailer and tongue weight.
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How heavy was the trailer in this video? Was it loaded?
9700# total weight - 1200# tongue weight - Audi R8 inside trailer
80 mph cool, but what about having to stop all that behind you at those speeds? Everyone talks about HP and torque. If you ask me, stopping is equally important, if not more
I can't believe the way you did this video. try towing that trailer up that hill at 60 mph and watch it struggle. i would love to see an accurate test like on tfl. i didn't notice the weight of the trailer. i had a 2016 ram 2500 with 3.73 gears and i bought a diesel 6 months later. The towing i did was on the bald ass praries with a 7700 lbs and it sucked. Oh by the way im a ram guy. gotta love the typing.Lol
Hey JB. Any chance you can do a review of a Ram 3500 with the Hemi and 410s? I’d love to see the payload of one of those. I’m having trouble deciding if I want the Ram 3500 6.4 Hemi and 410s or the Ford F-350 7.3 Godzilla and 430s for a 5er in the future. The dry unloaded of the 5er I was looking at is like 9300lbs or so.
That truck is a 🦄 . I do have some footage but need to figure out a way to put a video together with it. Either truck will pull that like it’s not back there 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork cool thanks man. I’ve liked the Ford for a little while now but I’ve also been looking at the Ram as well. I was thinking about a 2500 but I know I need a higher payload for a 5er since the 2500s are like 3000lbs of payload. I would also consider the new Chevy 2500HD 6.6 gasser as a daily driver and occasional worker as they have a slightly higher payload than a Ram 2500. From what I understand the only differences is the payload numbers from a Ram 2500 to 3500 as well as the Chevy 2500 to 3500 I believe the tow numbers are the same from the 3/4 to the 1 ton gassers.
@@JB_WhoWork so let me ask you JB. With the Ram 3500 6.4 Hemi with 410s or the F350 7.3 with 430s. Would either of those pull a 5th wheel that has a GVWR of like 14,000 lbs? The one I’m looking at is the Forest River Arctic Wolf 3990 suite the UVW is like 11,300lbs and is like 42 ft long. I’m also looking at the Chevy 2500HD 6.6 gasser with the 373s for a TT that’s 8500 lbs UVW and 9800lbs GVWR it’s 36.5 ft long, it’s the Forest River Wildwood 31KQBTS. Sorry I have so many questions man I just know you have a lot of knowledge in this department.
I would consider thinking about some places you would like to travel in the future and if any of those places would require you to go up/down steep grades, I would consider throwing a diesel in the mix. A gasser from either 3 will pull 14k no problem (so long as you get the highest numerical axle ratio) but stopping it down grades is where I would be mostly concerned. If you live in Fl, then these trucks will feel like deals from the early 2010’s 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork awesome thanks. I appreciate the help and info.
It’s interesting that that truck has less payload than mine, yet it also has less options. I wonder what it has that makes it 20 lbs heavier?
It's cause of the weak coil springs compared to much stronger leaf springs
@@thankyou9085 mine has coils as well. 2021 Ram 2500 Bighorn just like in the video.
Do you have fifth wheel prep?
@@JB_WhoWork nope, that makes sense then, I would’ve never thought of that.
How long will that engine hold together at 5000 rpms, it's generating a lot of heat. Does the mfger warranty it at 5000 rpms for a long haul? RON
This is nothing compared to the actual testing of these engines. It would still be warrantied because ECM would pull power if things got too hot.
@@JB_WhoWork Thanks for the reply, I'm 75yrs young and had a couple muscle cars back in the day, we could never run high rpms like that without some damage being done. Nice video, and have a nice day! Ron
Do a review of the Ford 7.3 with 4:30’s
What is the mpg? Why is it on the radio screen instead of mpg?