I like this theory better than others because why else would the gorosei respect shanks instead of treating him like a disgraced Myosgard(proof that celestial blood isn't the end all be all) possibly because garling still wants shanks back
I can imagine Bonney telling Luffy that she can transform him into his prime future but Luffy denies it because he doesn't want to take a shortcut in this fight. Much like that one time when they talked with Raylight about the One Piece.
nah.. luffy will use any means necessary to win a fight, specially to save his friends, he's a pirate.. not a hero, some examples 1. Used shadows in thriller bark 2. Kidnapped brule in whole cake 3. Fought Kaido with a team
@@calliopeshif7581 yeah in Europe its a night shift, because 3 AM to 9 AM could really be a night shift... But if you don't work in Europe the timings are diffrent
I have a feeling its either going to be broken (even more than it kinda is) or have significant meaning like restoring Kuma, otherwise he wouldnt drag it out this long.
That was my q: is anyone else constantly thinking of Gaimon. Similar chests, even one with a man stuck in it, on a deserted island (at least one w No civilization left, just weird animals…)
@@HanaNoMaudeI considered it, but I think that the Celestial Dragons would either also kill the weird animals or take them back to Marijoa with them as some sort of exotic pet.
@@foulball6553 agreed, unless the animal population grew up in the wake of an extinction event on the island. Don’t think it’s likely planned one to one foreshadowing but Oda will do some crazy callbacks so it came to mind as possible
I saw a theory that the 6 chests are the 6 chests we see on Gaimons Island (him being in one of them) and Kuma used his fruit powers (which could be in the chest) to send him and some slave friends far away from trouble, using the chests as shields when they crash land.
I can't get over how much people don't understand what distorted future means in relation to Bonny. It's always some crazy notion that she's literally pulling things out of different dimensions or that she can predict the future. No. You, the viewer, in thirty years could be fat, muscled or skeletal or so on. It just depends on what you do with yourself. All Bonny is doing is altering your body to look like one of your potentials. That's it. She may even be able to make distorted muscle babies, or distorted current day versions of yourself that have a steady diet of creatine and twelve chickens a day. She isn't warping space time.
Finally someone says it. The whole Bonney turning Luffy into his peak form is just fanfiction level of writing. If she could do that, she could easily turn into a future where she is a Haki God who trained like Netero and roll on 99% of the characters.
I actually imagine Shanks being put in the chest during the incident, swapping one of the fruits for him. Either Garling or another Figarland family member may of assumed, the other Nobles would just take the chests to safety but I can imagine them throwing the chests as offerings to the pirates to go away since God Valley would have been pure chaos or Roger just stole one. Also I don't think the Nika fruit would have been there cause the Gorosei stated they never got their hands on the fruit, meaning while The WG had it - Shanks must have stolen it, in transition to the Five Elders.
Does anyone here even read/watch one piece? we know Shanks did not get luffy's fruit from Roger he stole it from a world govt ship explained in Jinbe's fight vs whos who the former cp9 agent that shanks attacked and robbed. Shanks was in a large treasure chest not a small one that only big enough for 1 devil fruit.
@@basillah7650 Did you learn to read bro? I said Luffy's fruit wasn't on God Valley since the Gorosei stated they never got their hands on it even for 800 years of searching. I said Shanks stole it but the Elders never had it.
interesting theory, It's possible that Shanks was involved in the incident and had a role in the chest swapping. The details surrounding the Nika fruit and Shanks' involvement are still shrouded in mystery.
Are we not gonna talk about how Kizaru was actually out of action in chapter 1095? The fact he couldn’t get up actually shows us Luffy did more than just physical damage on the outside to him when he punched him in the head and may show that Luffy is indeed worthy of the spot as emperor
luffy was at the very least using haki coating on his fist and forearm when he delivered that punch, it's not clear but it could also be non-contact, as compared to the punch he landed on kaido, it was literally pure toon force and "punched through" his head, this time around kizaru's head got bent and even some of it looked liquified, but luffy's fist never went through, which could definitely mean conqueror's coating.
Two ideas are either Bonney’s own fruit If Ivankov and Kuma get their fruits here, then it’s logical to assume Ginny could get one too. And it’d be fitting for Bonney to subsequently inherit her powers
someone else pointed this out on twitter but, the island of strange animals might have also been one of these celestial dragon hunting islands in the past. Gaimon's "treasure" was 6 empty chests, with him stuck in one of em.... And to expand on that, what if one of the DFs there ended up being the reason we got those fusion animals..
The way that Gear 5th plays on the imagination of the user makes me thinks that making Luffy younger might make it a more versatile as it's often said that small children have a greater power of imagination than adults. But considering that Luffy is so childlike already, it probably wouldn't make that much of a difference 😂
Personally i like the idea that a younger luffy would be eay atronger than an older one becuase One Piece has always had these idea that the youth arefar more impprtant than the elder, even Garp tells coby that he should protect the youth if it came dowb to life or death
Luffy doesn't have real imagination powers he's just rubber and he doesn't even use it as well as Plastic Man or Mr.Fantastic from American Comics. Luffy is not Gremmy from Bleach, that guy had real imagination powers lol
He literally pointed out that your mentality doesnt change with Bonney's power. a 3 year old Bonney-fied Luffy is still the same goofball 19 year old Luffy we know today. Nothing will change.
@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard well older doesn't necessarily mean old old. It might be just adding 10 or 15 years. A form of Laffy with better control over gear 5
What you mentioned about those panels with Bonney and Kuma, something like that was used at the Reverie to hint that Kuma was Bonney father. So I believe that Oda does this a lot and people just miss it.
was thinking about this yesterday! I believe its gonna be like that scene from MHA where deku is constantly getting fixed up so is able to use 100% of his quirk. Bonney will reverse the aging from gear 5 in order for luffy to stay in gear 5 indefinitely.
I really really hope we get some context about Bonnie's abilities that make their scope more narrow. Not only does it have the potential to be incredibly broken, but it could also lead to plot hole accusations down the line. In the current ambiguity it just does so many powerful things, like being an instantkill, being a heal (aging someone back to before they were exhausted or injured), a power up (aging someone to prime, in addition to all the fun disguise and comical elements.
12:14 do you remember what rosinate said when he hid law in a treasure chest to hid him from doflamingo? He said this was a common method to escape pirate attacks or something like that. I believe that’s what someone from god valley did to shanks when the rocks pirates attacked
My problem with that last theory is that the chests at god valley are shown to be the same size but Shanks's chest is visibly larger than those six and Luffy's
I think the saddest idea would be that Bonnie is able to revert Kuma, only to find out he died some time ago and his body has been functioning off some mixture of tech and Kuma's will. Kuma is gone, but they can at least give him a well deserved burial.
Doesn't the memory being there mean that Kuma is alive, since devil fruit abilities disappear once they die? Or maybe the ability is still in his body and the body is alive, but his mind isn't there anymore.
@@shauxuhrwilsongrim yeah, more or less what I'm thinking, kind of like how Blackbeard was able to take White Beard's devil fruit despite him being dead.
Kinda crazy that garling would offer his boy as a price. I could see garling being like "i can offer my boy(shanks) as a price, put him in a chest, I'm going to win him back anyways"
Another potential fruit that could be in a chest is Dragons fruit if he has one, If Dragon is a marine and somehow ends up involved with the God valley incident could totally see him eating one, Hell if Kumas and Ivas fruits are in the chests he might be the one to give them to them
This is actually such an interesting possibility...Bonney even made herself into a bulkier alternative self. It would be insane seeing a prime, 30/40-something Luffy go absolutely nuts and fight Saturn.
I have some extreme doubts Luffy's fruit is in one of the chests. The only way I see that happening is if somebody hid it somewhere on the island or chucked it into the sea for it to be found 20 or so years later by the WG. Remember the WG had the fruit which Shanks stole from them when he was an adult. On God Valley he was just a baby. On top of that they would probably not have someone eat it, but either hide it under Imu's chair or that giant freezer. These chests being brought with them, means they had it at Mariejois. It would be an extreme level of fuck up for them to not recognize it. I think it's safe to rule that one out.
It is crazy to think of that Luffy right now isn't Prime Luffy can you imagine a Prime Luffy not just with the Garp genetics but also the Nika Nika no Mi... Literally he could probably curb stomp the Admirals with low diff to mid diff...Kaido and Big Mom too. Honestly I don't see many people actually going toe to toe.
I had never thought about this before I watched this video, but I actually really, really, really want to see that Garp-esque aged Luffy go all out in a fight. I can't even imagine what it would look like to see essentially Garp go apeshit in gear 5.
I think it’s a huge stretch to link the chests to the gum gum fruit because they’re “the same model of chest”, unless every other chest Oda has drawn in the series looks significantly different than these pretty standard looking treasure chests”. Kuma, Iva and Kaido’s fruits make sense as prizes tho
Does anyone here even read/watch one piece? we know Shanks did not get luffy's fruit from Roger he stole it from a world govt ship explained in Jinbe's fight vs whos who the former cp9 agent that shanks attacked and robbed. Shanks was in a large treasure chest not a small one that only big enough for 1 devil fruit.
Wow this is someone who doesn't understand that time is a factor! Believe it or not, those 6 chests at that time in the one piece world is in the past, a few decades ago, maybe even more. So the nika nika fruit could have been in one of the chests at that time, the Rocks incident then takes place, and then from there the fruit is in the world govt chest @@basillah7650
I would like him to return, but I see no purpose of him doing so. As an enemy? He'd easily be one-shot by Luffy. As an ally? Feels out of character for someone with a god complex. The only thing I can think of however, is making him return as a villain, but in the very end, similar to The Incredibles movie where the heroes fought a villain before the credits roll. Now that would be if everyone survives...
I think it's possible that maybe Baby Shanks Mom put him in a chest to save life. But if it was Garling, I wonder if there was a more sinister motive or context.. If Garling resented Baby Shanks for some reason? Or if it was done to handicap Garling further by other Nobles? We already have demon summoning and death games. What would potential baby sacrifice be on the pile the World Nobles and Gorosei/Imu are constructing? I feel so far all I see from Garling is coldness, so it would be interesting to see that he did care for Baby Shanks, but would be more villainous if we saw he did not care for Baby Shanks imo. The chests are maybe most fascinating part of chp 💯
I saw fan art of this in reference to Kuma but do you think it’s possible he will see g5 and his memories will return? I mean his flashback so far seems to be heavily based on the hope of joyboy’s return. I’d be willing to bet that Kuma hears the heartbeat and becomes affected by the toon force ultimately undoing his memory loss. Leading to one final moment of sacrifice in which he gets the straw hats and company out. Sacrificing himself in the process. I just don’t see Kuma surviving this arc if I’m being honest.
I think that Luffy's fruit was being transported to a more recent event, that's the reason Who's Who was arrested because he couldn't keep his mission and interfere with the Celestial Dragon's event
I think we are also going to see Crocodile's backstory with them. Ivonkov said he knew a secret about him during Impel Down and him being a former slave would give a good reason as to why he wanted Pluton back in Alabasta.
Problem is, Shanks stole Luffys devil fruit from CP0 - its unlikely the fruit switched hands that often until Luffy. It's more likely it was hidden or the users consistently killed.
Think about it.. after using his abilities luffy either becomes very young and small (for example after gear3) or very old (during his gear5 fight vs kaido).. Bonney could simply transform him back, completely neutralizing those side effects..
Here's an off the wall prediction. I think that an event like this is what the Revolutionary Army has been waiting for. (For one of the elders to be outside of their castle/vulnerable.) The Revolutionary Army is going to show up and Dragon is going to actually help take on Saint Saturn (or at least stall him long enough for Luffy to recover). We'd finally get to see Dragon actually fight too. The strategic idea here is that after getting Sabo's intel that the throne wasn't empty, they would need more information on this guy and who better to bring down, take hostage, and get that information from than one of the elders themselves.
Anyone else make the connection that when Bonny got buff from another timeline, that it was if she took after her father more than her mother so she had more Buccaneer blood traits in her.
It would be interesting to see Bonney use her powers on Kuma. What exactly would happen? We've seen that the young version of Jinbei still has his lightning bolt shaped scar, which he didn't receive until after he became a known pirate. And it doesn't get much more 'scarry' than replaced limbs, like in Kuma's case.
If shanks was in the box and is from someone in high power like the Celestial dragons/World nobles then wouldn't it indirectly explain why shanks was able to enter the Gorosei and speak with the 5 elders??, and if that is the case then it would shut down the traitor theory because his nobel status would overlook him being a pirate
Love this idea! Would be awesome to see and it makes a lot of sense. Also genius question about Kuma, is he a person or object at this point? Spot on! I think for plot he will still be a person but it's a great question imo and I think object way would be more interesting and potentially tragic.. Can she make every Pacifista Kuma? That would be something. Also I like an idea I heard that VP may have put Kuma mind in something else, like a Pacifista or the Ancient Robot, which for some reason, came alive when it heard the Nika drums that we now know Kuma was so familiar with.. Great vid
I like this idea because if Luffy temporarily was turned into his prime. Then that gives him a better understanding of how to use his haki since I’m sure his body will be on auto pilot when it comes to haki. And he’ll have access to Shank’s level haki and once he turns back. He might be able to use what he learned to better his haki and potentially start using it like how he potentially would in his prime. So even if Oda uses it as a gag and Luffy uses only 1 attack in his prime form. Later on Oda can use that as justification for Luffy’s haki being even crazier now
I hope Oda pulls a 100% Deku and eri combo with luffy and Bonny, where Bonny turns into a child gets on luffy’s back and constantly reverts his gear 5 exhaustion back to zero when ever luffy reaches his limit so luffy can fight without limits
Garling's hidden bounty at his current age is still 4,100,000,000 from Chapter 1095. It looks like 2,100,000,000 very much though. So it is 4,100,000,000 if Luffy fights him and 2,100,000,000 if Dragon fights him.
Assuming they're all Devil Fruits and contain nothing else, and if there's ONLY 6 treasure chests, my best guesses are: 1. Kuma's Paw Paw Fruit. That just makes sense with how this story is going. 2. Kaido's Dragon Fruit. We KNOW it's somewhere on the island. 3. Whitebeard's Tremor Fruit. I think it makes the most sense for MOST of Rock's crew to get their Devil Fruits right here on God Valley. 4. Shiki's Floating Fruit. It's easy to forget about Shiki, since Strong World is technically non-canon. But, Shiki himself IS canon. So maybe this is the Fruit that Garling was supposed to win but was denied? A Fruit that almost doesn't exist. Schrodinger's Devil Fruit. 5 and 6. I'll agree this is going to be a wild card. There's a few possibilities. It could be a Fruit that Rocks himself was after, a Devil Fruit that caused him to disappear. It might be a Devil Fruit Buckingham Stussy has, if she also has Succubus powers. It could be a Fruit that Ochoku has, since he hasn't shown up yet. It's possible it's Ivankov's Hormone Fruit. But, I think the most interesting possibility is that it's Monkey D Dragon's Storm Fruit. We still don't have 100% confirmation that Dragon even HAS a Fruit, and this would be a good place to confirm that. Luffy's NIka Fruit probably isn't here, since Shanks is said to be the one that stole it off a Government ship later. They MIGHT have lost it and then found it again, only to lose it all over again. But, it doesn't really add anything for this Fruit to be here right now.
I am perfectly fine with almost everything said here, except the possibility of the Gomu/Nika^2 be among those chests because the WG knew how the fruit looks when WhoIsWho was tasked to escort it so they have to know is value and never place it as price for something
@@bluedream2493 honestly? To me Is or a plothole or simply they were 100% sure Luffy Will not awaken the fruit, the latter Is a poor motivation but still potentially useful to avoid the plothole. Regardless, we know by fact the fruit arrived to Luffy by Shanks Who obtained stealing from the Ship Who was guarderd by the CP9 ... And losing the fruit to a world powerhouse (that later Will become and Emperor) Is enough for Who Is Who (One of their best agente) to be imprisoned for Life. This tell us Who hightly the Gomu was considered by the WG. Again to me It makes Little sense given the context but this happened
@@JuicyMcnamus I agree with you for Marinford but Indeed the WG had not shown particolar interest in dealing with Luffy except when Luffy itself messed with them. The critic makes sense, this Is why I said It was a border line plot hole probably due some inner retcon. I mean if you think about we know by fact the WG knew of the importance of the Goku Goku and the fact the enciclopedia of the DF didint listed any Gomu Gomu but listed Nika... So they were the Ones spreading the disinformation. Why they semmed to not care when someone with that DF showed up on the radar Is a mystery... Their Faith into the DF not awakening Is the only think I can think of... But still Is a Stretch (pun intended)
There is also the chance that Bonney can't turn Luffy into an older more powerful version from another universe, because the successful Luffys all die when the Red Line is destroyed. I think an aged Zoro might be more interesting, because if he's the worlds greatest swordsman there then he'd be very powerful in our One Piece world. I also kind of think an old Nami might be an issue, knowing how greedy she can be I would bet young Nami would force old Nami to tell her secrets. Whats left of the Worst Generation for Luffy to interact with? Drake might still be wandering around, Capone has a kid, Urouge is likely doing something weird in a setup to explain a bit more of the sky islanders, but basically everyone else has been defeated and killed.
It’s still crazy that a 19year old is one of the strongest characters. Every other character had to fight and train decades to get where he is in 2 years.
@@DaityaGod we can't really say for sure, as we haven't seen him do anything just quite yet. We did see that Blackbeard destroyed one of his bases. If dragon cannot defeat Blackbeard then he may be "not on par" with him. However that contradicts the fact that the characters get stronger the later they are introduced in the story. So it could be a speculation that dragon may not be in his prime (Though of course, nothing can be said for sure until we see dragon do something for the sake of powerscaling)
@astiknayak2838 we've also seen incredibly strong characters not get into fights they *could* win, or at least do well in, because of the risk of collateral damage to their crew (i.e. why whitebeard didn't invade wano to avenge oden). dragon's main goal isn't fighting yonko, it's liberation from the WG--no matter how strong he is, it makes sense he wouldn't risk all his peoples' lives by confronting the quake-quake fruit head-on
I reckon he's still in his prime. He's 55, same age as Sakazuki, and I think people in OP are in their prime until their 60s, depending how active they are.
Luffy is 19 years old now, he'd be pretty close to his physical peak already. Maybe aging him up a few years would make him a bit stronger, but it wouldn't make a massive difference
The peak age for athletes as a whole is 26. You can begin to pack on way more dense and strong muscle around that age as well and so the peak age for lifters is like 34.
when Bonney used distorted future on herself, she became very muscular but at her same age, like she chose a timeline where she trained hard through her whole life. Maybe she can turn Luffy in another 19yo Luffy who trained much more harder than the original, although the original already trained very hard but when we're talking about alternate universes, everything is possible, it's very possible that there's a Luffy 100x more trained than the original
Physical peak? Nah, pretty sure there isn't a single Strongman winner that is 19 or close to it. It's always in between 25-30ish. Aging Luffy up some years could make him exponentially stronger, seeing as just him being locked into a prison for some days made him waaay stronger.
I had a feeling that egghead was gonna take elements from thriller bark, like people theorizing that imu was one of those shadows at the end and the creepy spiders, thriller bark potentially being god valley, so if its leading up to bonney giving luffy a buff like nightmare luffy its just another mark to tick off.
We may see through Bonnies' fruit that Luffy only has a few more years left to live. She may not be able to "grow him" past a certain age and, with that, the crew will know the importance of making it happen "now" rather than later.
Theory: not knowing the real age of Saturn, what if Bonnie tries to rewind him out of existence, but actually sends him back to his prime from the void century. After a long battle, Luffy eventually wins. Imu hears about what Bonnie did and decides to pursue her devil fruit to restore their own prime along with the rest of the gorosei but when imu is about to capture bonnie, she sends luffy to his prime and he dominates everyone
-Fish Fish -Nikyu Nikyu -Dragon's fruit -Gura Gura -Possibly the Yami Yami, which would explain Rocks' attack. -Possibly the hormone hormone fruit too, but I assume Iva actually pursued that one. Otherwise, Garling's fruit of he has one.
I feel like the ‘ shanks in the chest ‘ idea really makes a lot of sense. Because I can’t imagine garling would just bring a baby along unless there was a reason. And it’s not one of those ‘ mother us pregnant and gives birth in a time of crisis’ because shanks was already a year old at this point
Does anyone here even read/watch one piece? we know Shanks did not get luffy's fruit from Roger he stole it from a world govt ship explained in Jinbe's fight vs whos who the former cp9 agent that shanks attacked and robbed. Shanks was in a large treasure chest not a small one that only big enough for 1 devil fruit.
@@basillah7650I didn’t even mention luffys fruit I looked at the art again before I commented. And your right the sizes are pretty different. But I didn’t throw away the idea ( at least not yet ) because the art wasn’t completely done by oda so some of the details could be different. Not to mention that oda isn’t consistent when it comes to sizes anyways. Which isn’t an issue it’s just something I’m personally keeping in mind
Few chapters before where we have Amazon Lilly Serapham has some character from her older self and helps Luffy , Maybe all the Kuma cyborgs/ robots have some Kuma in them which they going to attack awhile army of Kuma against Saturn which occupies him for straw hats, Vega punks and Bonnie to escape.
Guys I have a theory for Imu's devil fruit: I don't know how to use reddit so I am just posting my theory here. I think in most of one piece, final rivals are the polar opposite. I think that Imu is definitely luffy's final opponent. Luffy's fruit is all about freedom. So I think Imu's fruit would be about limitation. He could have BB's upgraded darkness fruit. We can think of Imu as a buffed up Blackbeard, as Blackbeard is trying to be the Pirate king any way and Imu is basically the king of the world. We have seen upgraded fruits in the past, as in case of Fire-Magma Fruit and Blade-weapon fruit. Also, darkness can be seen as limiting light, in a form. So, I think Imu has a upgraded Darkness fruit, where he can basically capture any physical or philosophical thing like will and can not only negate other people's fruit, but also use the abilities of the person's devil fruit. So, like all for one, he can use other people's devil fruit abilities and is collecting devil fruit abilities all this time. So, luffy would have to fight every single devil fruit at once. One other fruit he could have is the death death fruit. Death is always seen as a all mighty power in anime, and I was thinking why there isn't any in one piece yet. So, The fight between death and freedom could also be quite cool. Feel free to add to this theory.
@@alister4936 could definitely be the case. It would also support the notion of inhibiting the freedom as the Abyss is known as something that anything can never leave
but I do wonder,we all know that oda foreshadows a lot of thing and the six chest that now has been empty are the same chests in the start of the series where the guy who was stuck in the chest was found ,meaning that God valley could be that island and also the guy was calling himself a god and people told that it was the island where God lived
Question: dou you think when kaido ate his fruit it originally gave him the form of a koi fish and he awakened it into a dragon,like the story of the koi swimming up the waterfall to become a dragon?
I like to think Celestial dragons dont eat devilfruits. they are insanely rich and probably own the majority of the islands around the 4 blues. the only celestial dragon we know with a devil fruit was Doffy who ate it after his whole murder spree and bringing his dads head to the celestial dragons, other than the 5 elders ( I believe they are not DF users but are original demons who would become fruits later if they were ever murdered)
So, according to V.P. the soul is comprised of memories...and to transfer memories is to transfer a soul? So, he used Kuma to extract his own memories stored them there at Egghead, took Kuma's consciousness and made him a cyborg, programmed Kuma to do things, protect the Sunny etc...then programmed Kuma to come back to Egghead to retrieve his memories/soul. Is Bonny a part of the plan or just a cherry on top seeing she might be able to restore his body?
My 2 thoughts on this. 1.Shanks kept the chest they found him in and later put the devil fruit in there for safekeeping 2. If Kuma is dead, shouldn't his powers stop working, therefore his memory bubble disappear?
There is always the possibility of Whitebeard Either his own Devil Fruit (since I don‘t think we know when he ate it) or maybe one he gave one of his sons (like the phoenix fruit) Two powerful Devil Fruits that would make sense to be in the World Nobles possession
Another possibility for the similarity between the chests: Oda just likes drawing chests with a particular style, similarly to his preference for female characters with overlapping styles.
I have a theory about bonny's devil fruit: bonny's devil fruit make her younger but we don't see it, every year after she ate her devil fruit she become younger in her mind (she's starting to age backwards).
My current random theory. Not likely, just ideas for fun >;^D Apologies for length. I'm just thorough with my thoughts is all. At the end of the Void Century, the user of Bonney's awakened (or Bonney herself) was asked to permanently reverse Joy Boy and others to infants, reversing them permanently (not temporarily) to before they ate their fruits causing the fruits to respawn, and them all having to grow up again. All except Bonney lost their DF along with memories because she ate her DF when she was a baby. She was found and raised by Kuma as an orphan, believing the World Government was also responsible for her situation. Toki with her awakened DF could see visions of the future as well as send others (not just herself) forward in time, but not what would happen once she went there herself. She was asked to send their infant selves into the future close to 800 years. She'd jump years ahead and make sure the legends continued, helped ensure the poneglyphs were all placed up until recent time. No proper mothers seen for many main characters because they were born during the Void Century but have no memory of it since they pretty much reset as infant. Their souls are still the same. Toki arrived in Wano and saw the new future with her there. She had to lead a path that open up Wano, but Oden, the kids, and the crew were new additions she didn't foresee happening with her presence and she wanted a family. She looked into the future and saw the new outcome, 20 years in the future, sent the Oden crew forward with Momo. The legends still fit, but with differences like Wano not opening yet, Momo wants to ensure another aspect is fulfilled. The weapon being ready and Wano ready to fight because Oden's journal said it was required. Joy Boy/Luffy's DF being a mythical type bonded but since he never properly died and his soul gone/disconnected, it sought his soul to be reunited. So many orphans from pirates pillaging and warring, who would notice the out of nowhere new orphans dropped in. Dragon isn't the father of Luffy. The Will of D legend is passed down as descendants of Joy Boys crew families, not just him. Dragon is the great great great great (so on) descendant of Joy Boy who came across JB/Luffy before or after he was enslaved by the Celestial Dragons. He raised him for a while in secret. Garp went to see him (furious he was enslaved but could do nothing), arriving at the same time the slave escape took place. Dragon convinced Garp to take "his grandson Luffy" to keep him safe and let him escape. Garp believes Luffy is his biological grand son because he has no reason not to believe it. Luffy IS Joy Boy, but Zunesha never knew him as a kid and wasn't aware or the plan due to his punishment and being separated from them all. Okay, done. Much love and hope ya enjoy the idea.
The thing that I want to hear more about is what were the next islands where this event happened. They mentioned it happens once every 3 years and God Valley was 20+ years back.
This is giving me increadibly heavy “10 year bazooka” from Hitman Reborn! Vibes. Where someone would be hit with a shot from the 10 year bazooka and be replaced with a version of them from 10 years in the future.
I think Shanks was in the box because Garling was so confident he would win that he bet his own son on it.
But aren't there six boxes?
That would be so fucked up but also in line with how twisted the celestial dragons are.
I like this theory better than others because why else would the gorosei respect shanks instead of treating him like a disgraced Myosgard(proof that celestial blood isn't the end all be all) possibly because garling still wants shanks back
nah, Shanks wasn't in the box, that's just a wild theory.
@@Suto_KoIt's not confirmed that he isn't in there
I can imagine Bonney telling Luffy that she can transform him into his prime future but Luffy denies it because he doesn't want to take a shortcut in this fight. Much like that one time when they talked with Raylight about the One Piece.
Doubt it. Luffy accepted all the shadows to turn nightmare and accepted 3v1'ing that guy on Skypiea with Sanji and Zoro because "we're pirates"
I love raylight
nah.. luffy will use any means necessary to win a fight, specially to save his friends, he's a pirate.. not a hero, some examples
1. Used shadows in thriller bark
2. Kidnapped brule in whole cake
3. Fought Kaido with a team
He will protect his crew anyway he can so he might take it to protect them
That sounds more like Goku than Luffy
A Liam video is what I need for a 3-9am shift , thank you Liam
This is an night shift?
Usually the shifts are 8 hours long and not 6 hours long.
@@marvboy4256it really depends on where you work. Idk why you think that's entirely standard.
Yeah at ikea my shifts were 12-8, 1-8 lol, 2-10, 3-10, and for some reason 5-11 (Am)
@@calliopeshif7581I think he’s referring to graveyard shift
@@calliopeshif7581 yeah in Europe its a night shift, because 3 AM to 9 AM could really be a night shift...
But if you don't work in Europe the timings are diffrent
We all know the sixth chest contained Zoro's sense of direction. Unfortunately it was the only one that wasn't found and lost to time
Oda is doing everything in his power to delay going in depth about Bonney's fruit. We don't know the name, extension of power, limitations, and so on.
imagine if its an unawakened version of toki's fruit
I mean how can you awaken the power to age things through time...why travel through time
oda loves to keep us guessing with the mysteries of devil fruits, bonney's fruit included.
I have a feeling its either going to be broken (even more than it kinda is) or have significant meaning like restoring Kuma, otherwise he wouldnt drag it out this long.
could be, Oda loves his twists and surprises, so the significance of the Ope Ope no Mi could definitely go beyond what we expect.@@snowwhite1494
I think it's gonna be called towa towa no mi
We can't forget chapter 22 with Gaimon and his 6 mysterious empty chests
It's finally coming full circle
gaimons island is god valley 😯
That was my q: is anyone else constantly thinking of Gaimon. Similar chests, even one with a man stuck in it, on a deserted island (at least one w No civilization left, just weird animals…)
@@HanaNoMaudeI considered it, but I think that the Celestial Dragons would either also kill the weird animals or take them back to Marijoa with them as some sort of exotic pet.
@@foulball6553 agreed, unless the animal population grew up in the wake of an extinction event on the island. Don’t think it’s likely planned one to one foreshadowing but Oda will do some crazy callbacks so it came to mind as possible
I saw a theory that the 6 chests are the 6 chests we see on Gaimons Island (him being in one of them) and Kuma used his fruit powers (which could be in the chest) to send him and some slave friends far away from trouble, using the chests as shields when they crash land.
I was actually thinking about this too!
I can't get over how much people don't understand what distorted future means in relation to Bonny. It's always some crazy notion that she's literally pulling things out of different dimensions or that she can predict the future. No. You, the viewer, in thirty years could be fat, muscled or skeletal or so on. It just depends on what you do with yourself. All Bonny is doing is altering your body to look like one of your potentials. That's it. She may even be able to make distorted muscle babies, or distorted current day versions of yourself that have a steady diet of creatine and twelve chickens a day. She isn't warping space time.
Finally someone says it. The whole Bonney turning Luffy into his peak form is just fanfiction level of writing. If she could do that, she could easily turn into a future where she is a Haki God who trained like Netero and roll on 99% of the characters.
I actually imagine Shanks being put in the chest during the incident, swapping one of the fruits for him. Either Garling or another Figarland family member may of assumed, the other Nobles would just take the chests to safety but I can imagine them throwing the chests as offerings to the pirates to go away since God Valley would have been pure chaos or Roger just stole one. Also I don't think the Nika fruit would have been there cause the Gorosei stated they never got their hands on the fruit, meaning while The WG had it - Shanks must have stolen it, in transition to the Five Elders.
we know how the chest that contained shanks looked like, and it was a different design
Does anyone here even read/watch one piece? we know Shanks did not get luffy's fruit from Roger he stole it from a world govt ship explained in Jinbe's fight vs whos who the former cp9 agent that shanks attacked and robbed.
Shanks was in a large treasure chest not a small one that only big enough for 1 devil fruit.
@@basillah7650 Did you learn to read bro? I said Luffy's fruit wasn't on God Valley since the Gorosei stated they never got their hands on it even for 800 years of searching. I said Shanks stole it but the Elders never had it.
interesting theory, It's possible that Shanks was involved in the incident and had a role in the chest swapping. The details surrounding the Nika fruit and Shanks' involvement are still shrouded in mystery.
I like this theory. It too would explain why they'd wipe it off the map too, cant have the gods be seen to give up goods to pirates lol
Are we not gonna talk about how Kizaru was actually out of action in chapter 1095? The fact he couldn’t get up actually shows us Luffy did more than just physical damage on the outside to him when he punched him in the head and may show that Luffy is indeed worthy of the spot as emperor
luffy was at the very least using haki coating on his fist and forearm when he delivered that punch, it's not clear but it could also be non-contact, as compared to the punch he landed on kaido, it was literally pure toon force and "punched through" his head, this time around kizaru's head got bent and even some of it looked liquified, but luffy's fist never went through, which could definitely mean conqueror's coating.
Bro one peice is getting close to it's P.E.A.K
So hyped for the next chapter!
yeah it seemingly left his equilibrium totally messed up
Or maybe he's faking it so he doesn't have to kill vegapunk with his own hands
Admiral stocks plummeted that day.
Two ideas are either Bonney’s own fruit
If Ivankov and Kuma get their fruits here, then it’s logical to assume Ginny could get one too. And it’d be fitting for Bonney to subsequently inherit her powers
someone else pointed this out on twitter but, the island of strange animals might have also been one of these celestial dragon hunting islands in the past. Gaimon's "treasure" was 6 empty chests, with him stuck in one of em.... And to expand on that, what if one of the DFs there ended up being the reason we got those fusion animals..
The way that Gear 5th plays on the imagination of the user makes me thinks that making Luffy younger might make it a more versatile as it's often said that small children have a greater power of imagination than adults. But considering that Luffy is so childlike already, it probably wouldn't make that much of a difference 😂
I like the idea, but i actually think the older luffy gets the wackier his imagination becomes. I just don't think that part of luffy will ever wane.
Personally i like the idea that a younger luffy would be eay atronger than an older one becuase One Piece has always had these idea that the youth arefar more impprtant than the elder, even Garp tells coby that he should protect the youth if it came dowb to life or death
Luffy doesn't have real imagination powers he's just rubber and he doesn't even use it as well as Plastic Man or Mr.Fantastic from American Comics. Luffy is not Gremmy from Bleach, that guy had real imagination powers lol
He literally pointed out that your mentality doesnt change with Bonney's power. a 3 year old Bonney-fied Luffy is still the same goofball 19 year old Luffy we know today. Nothing will change.
@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard well older doesn't necessarily mean old old. It might be just adding 10 or 15 years. A form of Laffy with better control over gear 5
What you mentioned about those panels with Bonney and Kuma, something like that was used at the Reverie to hint that Kuma was Bonney father. So I believe that Oda does this a lot and people just miss it.
was thinking about this yesterday! I believe its gonna be like that scene from MHA where deku is constantly getting fixed up so is able to use 100% of his quirk. Bonney will reverse the aging from gear 5 in order for luffy to stay in gear 5 indefinitely.
I really really hope we get some context about Bonnie's abilities that make their scope more narrow. Not only does it have the potential to be incredibly broken, but it could also lead to plot hole accusations down the line. In the current ambiguity it just does so many powerful things, like being an instantkill, being a heal (aging someone back to before they were exhausted or injured), a power up (aging someone to prime, in addition to all the fun disguise and comical elements.
I think the time limit on the fruit protects it from potential plot holes
no way Luffy´s fruit was in one of them chests, the gorosei said that it had evaded them for 800 years, everything else seems possible at least.
12:14 do you remember what rosinate said when he hid law in a treasure chest to hid him from doflamingo? He said this was a common method to escape pirate attacks or something like that. I believe that’s what someone from god valley did to shanks when the rocks pirates attacked
My problem with that last theory is that the chests at god valley are shown to be the same size but Shanks's chest is visibly larger than those six and Luffy's
Size doesn't matter in One Piece
@@Havenkintell that to whitebeard
@@whitebwoican we get much higher🗣️🎶🔥🔥
I think the saddest idea would be that Bonnie is able to revert Kuma, only to find out he died some time ago and his body has been functioning off some mixture of tech and Kuma's will. Kuma is gone, but they can at least give him a well deserved burial.
Doesn't the memory being there mean that Kuma is alive, since devil fruit abilities disappear once they die? Or maybe the ability is still in his body and the body is alive, but his mind isn't there anymore.
@@shauxuhrwilsongrim yeah, more or less what I'm thinking, kind of like how Blackbeard was able to take White Beard's devil fruit despite him being dead.
Kinda crazy that garling would offer his boy as a price. I could see garling being like "i can offer my boy(shanks) as a price, put him in a chest, I'm going to win him back anyways"
Another potential fruit that could be in a chest is Dragons fruit if he has one, If Dragon is a marine and somehow ends up involved with the God valley incident could totally see him eating one, Hell if Kumas and Ivas fruits are in the chests he might be the one to give them to them
This is actually such an interesting possibility...Bonney even made herself into a bulkier alternative self. It would be insane seeing a prime, 30/40-something Luffy go absolutely nuts and fight Saturn.
I can't wait to see the official name of Bonney's age-manipulating Devil Fruit being revealed in Egghead Island arc.
I completely forgot the fact that oda hasn't dropped the name of that devil fruit yet, that's weird
@@thebloo12maybe he has as well. He forgot that he hadn't named Kid's fruit and revealed it in an SBS
Maybe she has the toki toki no mi, and that is why she can manipulate time.
@@spideyv5750that’s a different fruit the Toki fruit physically sends people forward in time, she probably has a age fruit
@@DerpyCookieMci don’t think she has the fruit but the sending people forward could be the awakening
Love the thumbnail of Luffy as Adult Gon
I have some extreme doubts Luffy's fruit is in one of the chests. The only way I see that happening is if somebody hid it somewhere on the island or chucked it into the sea for it to be found 20 or so years later by the WG. Remember the WG had the fruit which Shanks stole from them when he was an adult. On God Valley he was just a baby.
On top of that they would probably not have someone eat it, but either hide it under Imu's chair or that giant freezer. These chests being brought with them, means they had it at Mariejois. It would be an extreme level of fuck up for them to not recognize it.
I think it's safe to rule that one out.
Been watching this instead of reading the manga lmao; thanks for keeping us updated on this peak
It is crazy to think of that Luffy right now isn't Prime Luffy can you imagine a Prime Luffy not just with the Garp genetics but also the Nika Nika no Mi... Literally he could probably curb stomp the Admirals with low diff to mid diff...Kaido and Big Mom too. Honestly I don't see many people actually going toe to toe.
I had never thought about this before I watched this video, but I actually really, really, really want to see that Garp-esque aged Luffy go all out in a fight. I can't even imagine what it would look like to see essentially Garp go apeshit in gear 5.
I think it’s a huge stretch to link the chests to the gum gum fruit because they’re “the same model of chest”, unless every other chest Oda has drawn in the series looks significantly different than these pretty standard looking treasure chests”. Kuma, Iva and Kaido’s fruits make sense as prizes tho
Does anyone here even read/watch one piece? we know Shanks did not get luffy's fruit from Roger he stole it from a world govt ship explained in Jinbe's fight vs whos who the former cp9 agent that shanks attacked and robbed.
Shanks was in a large treasure chest not a small one that only big enough for 1 devil fruit.
Wow this is someone who doesn't understand that time is a factor! Believe it or not, those 6 chests at that time in the one piece world is in the past, a few decades ago, maybe even more. So the nika nika fruit could have been in one of the chests at that time, the Rocks incident then takes place, and then from there the fruit is in the world govt chest @@basillah7650
All I want to know is when Enel comes back. He has been gone for like 700+ and we haven't heard anything from him. Hope he returns.
Man that would be crazier than gear 5
I would like him to return, but I see no purpose of him doing so.
As an enemy? He'd easily be one-shot by Luffy.
As an ally? Feels out of character for someone with a god complex.
The only thing I can think of however, is making him return as a villain, but in the very end, similar to The Incredibles movie where the heroes fought a villain before the credits roll. Now that would be if everyone survives...
@@dr.zachary4255nah an egomaniac villainous ally whose goals happen to align with helping the protags makes sense, like Lex Luthor in some iterations
I think it's possible that maybe Baby Shanks Mom put him in a chest to save life. But if it was Garling, I wonder if there was a more sinister motive or context.. If Garling resented Baby Shanks for some reason? Or if it was done to handicap Garling further by other Nobles? We already have demon summoning and death games. What would potential baby sacrifice be on the pile the World Nobles and Gorosei/Imu are constructing? I feel so far all I see from Garling is coldness, so it would be interesting to see that he did care for Baby Shanks, but would be more villainous if we saw he did not care for Baby Shanks imo. The chests are maybe most fascinating part of chp 💯
I saw fan art of this in reference to Kuma but do you think it’s possible he will see g5 and his memories will return? I mean his flashback so far seems to be heavily based on the hope of joyboy’s return. I’d be willing to bet that Kuma hears the heartbeat and becomes affected by the toon force ultimately undoing his memory loss. Leading to one final moment of sacrifice in which he gets the straw hats and company out. Sacrificing himself in the process. I just don’t see Kuma surviving this arc if I’m being honest.
Liam never say you're not funny. Deadpan delivery is a level of humor that is very difficult to do right and you seem to have a mastery of it
I think that Luffy's fruit was being transported to a more recent event, that's the reason Who's Who was arrested because he couldn't keep his mission and interfere with the Celestial Dragon's event
I think we are also going to see Crocodile's backstory with them. Ivonkov said he knew a secret about him during Impel Down and him being a former slave would give a good reason as to why he wanted Pluton back in Alabasta.
Couldn't Kuma's memories also possibly be put into S-Bear or one of the newer Pacifistas?
Thanks for the shout out Liam, don’t worry next time we’ll have to get you in full Gecko Moria attire
Problem is, Shanks stole Luffys devil fruit from CP0 - its unlikely the fruit switched hands that often until Luffy. It's more likely it was hidden or the users consistently killed.
the ol HxH moment...yeah,,written correctly that scene would be fucking insane
Think about it.. after using his abilities luffy either becomes very young and small (for example after gear3) or very old (during his gear5 fight vs kaido).. Bonney could simply transform him back, completely neutralizing those side effects..
Here's an off the wall prediction. I think that an event like this is what the Revolutionary Army has been waiting for. (For one of the elders to be outside of their castle/vulnerable.) The Revolutionary Army is going to show up and Dragon is going to actually help take on Saint Saturn (or at least stall him long enough for Luffy to recover). We'd finally get to see Dragon actually fight too.
The strategic idea here is that after getting Sabo's intel that the throne wasn't empty, they would need more information on this guy and who better to bring down, take hostage, and get that information from than one of the elders themselves.
Fictional pirates at work is the best
Anyone else make the connection that when Bonny got buff from another timeline, that it was if she took after her father more than her mother so she had more Buccaneer blood traits in her.
It would be interesting to see Bonney use her powers on Kuma. What exactly would happen? We've seen that the young version of Jinbei still has his lightning bolt shaped scar, which he didn't receive until after he became a known pirate. And it doesn't get much more 'scarry' than replaced limbs, like in Kuma's case.
If shanks was in the box and is from someone in high power like the Celestial dragons/World nobles then wouldn't it indirectly explain why shanks was able to enter the Gorosei and speak with the 5 elders??, and if that is the case then it would shut down the traitor theory because his nobel status would overlook him being a pirate
Love this idea! Would be awesome to see and it makes a lot of sense. Also genius question about Kuma, is he a person or object at this point? Spot on! I think for plot he will still be a person but it's a great question imo and I think object way would be more interesting and potentially tragic.. Can she make every Pacifista Kuma? That would be something. Also I like an idea I heard that VP may have put Kuma mind in something else, like a Pacifista or the Ancient Robot, which for some reason, came alive when it heard the Nika drums that we now know Kuma was so familiar with.. Great vid
I like this idea because if Luffy temporarily was turned into his prime. Then that gives him a better understanding of how to use his haki since I’m sure his body will be on auto pilot when it comes to haki. And he’ll have access to Shank’s level haki and once he turns back. He might be able to use what he learned to better his haki and potentially start using it like how he potentially would in his prime. So even if Oda uses it as a gag and Luffy uses only 1 attack in his prime form. Later on Oda can use that as justification for Luffy’s haki being even crazier now
I hope Oda pulls a 100% Deku and eri combo with luffy and Bonny, where Bonny turns into a child gets on luffy’s back and constantly reverts his gear 5 exhaustion back to zero when ever luffy reaches his limit so luffy can fight without limits
Garling's hidden bounty at his current age is still 4,100,000,000 from Chapter 1095. It looks like 2,100,000,000 very much though. So it is 4,100,000,000 if Luffy fights him and 2,100,000,000 if Dragon fights him.
The 6th chest could be a fruit we don't know of, something basic like actual treasure, or an egg
A box without hinges, lock or key, yet golden treasure lies within
Assuming they're all Devil Fruits and contain nothing else, and if there's ONLY 6 treasure chests, my best guesses are:
1. Kuma's Paw Paw Fruit. That just makes sense with how this story is going.
2. Kaido's Dragon Fruit. We KNOW it's somewhere on the island.
3. Whitebeard's Tremor Fruit. I think it makes the most sense for MOST of Rock's crew to get their Devil Fruits right here on God Valley.
4. Shiki's Floating Fruit. It's easy to forget about Shiki, since Strong World is technically non-canon. But, Shiki himself IS canon. So maybe this is the Fruit that Garling was supposed to win but was denied? A Fruit that almost doesn't exist. Schrodinger's Devil Fruit.
5 and 6. I'll agree this is going to be a wild card. There's a few possibilities. It could be a Fruit that Rocks himself was after, a Devil Fruit that caused him to disappear. It might be a Devil Fruit Buckingham Stussy has, if she also has Succubus powers. It could be a Fruit that Ochoku has, since he hasn't shown up yet. It's possible it's Ivankov's Hormone Fruit. But, I think the most interesting possibility is that it's Monkey D Dragon's Storm Fruit. We still don't have 100% confirmation that Dragon even HAS a Fruit, and this would be a good place to confirm that.
Luffy's NIka Fruit probably isn't here, since Shanks is said to be the one that stole it off a Government ship later. They MIGHT have lost it and then found it again, only to lose it all over again. But, it doesn't really add anything for this Fruit to be here right now.
I am perfectly fine with almost everything said here, except the possibility of the Gomu/Nika^2 be among those chests because the WG knew how the fruit looks when WhoIsWho was tasked to escort it so they have to know is value and never place it as price for something
If thats the case then why didn't the gorosei kill luffy in Maine ford.. or at any point before wano
@@bluedream2493 honestly? To me Is or a plothole or simply they were 100% sure Luffy Will not awaken the fruit, the latter Is a poor motivation but still potentially useful to avoid the plothole.
Regardless, we know by fact the fruit arrived to Luffy by Shanks Who obtained stealing from the Ship Who was guarderd by the CP9 ... And losing the fruit to a world powerhouse (that later Will become and Emperor) Is enough for Who Is Who (One of their best agente) to be imprisoned for Life. This tell us Who hightly the Gomu was considered by the WG.
Again to me It makes Little sense given the context but this happened
@bluedream2493 How would the Gorosei have known he was there to issue the order in time?
@@JuicyMcnamus I agree with you for Marinford but Indeed the WG had not shown particolar interest in dealing with Luffy except when Luffy itself messed with them.
The critic makes sense, this Is why I said It was a border line plot hole probably due some inner retcon.
I mean if you think about we know by fact the WG knew of the importance of the Goku Goku and the fact the enciclopedia of the DF didint listed any Gomu Gomu but listed Nika... So they were the Ones spreading the disinformation. Why they semmed to not care when someone with that DF showed up on the radar Is a mystery... Their Faith into the DF not awakening Is the only think I can think of... But still Is a Stretch (pun intended)
@@YataVSTheWorld oh I was only talking about marineford. I agree they should have sent someone to take him out far earlier
There is also the chance that Bonney can't turn Luffy into an older more powerful version from another universe, because the successful Luffys all die when the Red Line is destroyed.
I think an aged Zoro might be more interesting, because if he's the worlds greatest swordsman there then he'd be very powerful in our One Piece world. I also kind of think an old Nami might be an issue, knowing how greedy she can be I would bet young Nami would force old Nami to tell her secrets.
Whats left of the Worst Generation for Luffy to interact with? Drake might still be wandering around, Capone has a kid, Urouge is likely doing something weird in a setup to explain a bit more of the sky islanders, but basically everyone else has been defeated and killed.
The 6th mysterious chest contains the one and only Gaimon
It’s still crazy that a 19year old is one of the strongest characters. Every other character had to fight and train decades to get where he is in 2 years.
It’s not really gonna happen, but what if Bonney uses her power to put dragon in his prime? (Considering he’s quite older than shanks)
He is in his prime though cuz people in OP world live longer so prime is in 40s and 50s
@@DaityaGod we can't really say for sure, as we haven't seen him do anything just quite yet. We did see that Blackbeard destroyed one of his bases. If dragon cannot defeat Blackbeard then he may be "not on par" with him. However that contradicts the fact that the characters get stronger the later they are introduced in the story. So it could be a speculation that dragon may not be in his prime
(Though of course, nothing can be said for sure until we see dragon do something for the sake of powerscaling)
@astiknayak2838 we've also seen incredibly strong characters not get into fights they *could* win, or at least do well in, because of the risk of collateral damage to their crew (i.e. why whitebeard didn't invade wano to avenge oden). dragon's main goal isn't fighting yonko, it's liberation from the WG--no matter how strong he is, it makes sense he wouldn't risk all his peoples' lives by confronting the quake-quake fruit head-on
I reckon he's still in his prime. He's 55, same age as Sakazuki, and I think people in OP are in their prime until their 60s, depending how active they are.
Bonnies power is literally drawing other dimensions into reality. Literally breaking into quantum physics, I love it.
Luffy is 19 years old now, he'd be pretty close to his physical peak already. Maybe aging him up a few years would make him a bit stronger, but it wouldn't make a massive difference
He hasn't gotten his grown man strength yet.
The peak age for athletes as a whole is 26. You can begin to pack on way more dense and strong muscle around that age as well and so the peak age for lifters is like 34.
when Bonney used distorted future on herself, she became very muscular but at her same age, like she chose a timeline where she trained hard through her whole life. Maybe she can turn Luffy in another 19yo Luffy who trained much more harder than the original, although the original already trained very hard but when we're talking about alternate universes, everything is possible, it's very possible that there's a Luffy 100x more trained than the original
Physical peak? Nah, pretty sure there isn't a single Strongman winner that is 19 or close to it. It's always in between 25-30ish. Aging Luffy up some years could make him exponentially stronger, seeing as just him being locked into a prison for some days made him waaay stronger.
Maybe? I think it's very debatedable and there is a lot of evidence for 40ish being Prime in OP Lore
I had a feeling that egghead was gonna take elements from thriller bark, like people theorizing that imu was one of those shadows at the end and the creepy spiders, thriller bark potentially being god valley, so if its leading up to bonney giving luffy a buff like nightmare luffy its just another mark to tick off.
We may see through Bonnies' fruit that Luffy only has a few more years left to live. She may not be able to "grow him" past a certain age and, with that, the crew will know the importance of making it happen "now" rather than later.
He became 70 years old with her powers already in manga
@@JGdouble2yeah but it was a different future maybe one where he never used the gears 😮
Imagine if they use a combination of Bonneys and Laws fruit to fix Luffys life span and age him to his prime to defeat the final threat
Theory: not knowing the real age of Saturn, what if Bonnie tries to rewind him out of existence, but actually sends him back to his prime from the void century. After a long battle, Luffy eventually wins. Imu hears about what Bonnie did and decides to pursue her devil fruit to restore their own prime along with the rest of the gorosei but when imu is about to capture bonnie, she sends luffy to his prime and he dominates everyone
-Fish Fish
-Nikyu Nikyu
-Dragon's fruit
-Gura Gura
-Possibly the Yami Yami, which would explain Rocks' attack.
-Possibly the hormone hormone fruit too, but I assume Iva actually pursued that one. Otherwise, Garling's fruit of he has one.
I feel like the ‘ shanks in the chest ‘ idea really makes a lot of sense. Because I can’t imagine garling would just bring a baby along unless there was a reason. And it’s not one of those ‘ mother us pregnant and gives birth in a time of crisis’ because shanks was already a year old at this point
Does anyone here even read/watch one piece? we know Shanks did not get luffy's fruit from Roger he stole it from a world govt ship explained in Jinbe's fight vs whos who the former cp9 agent that shanks attacked and robbed.
Shanks was in a large treasure chest not a small one that only big enough for 1 devil fruit.
@@basillah7650I didn’t even mention luffys fruit
I looked at the art again before I commented. And your right the sizes are pretty different.
But I didn’t throw away the idea ( at least not yet ) because the art wasn’t completely done by oda so some of the details could be different. Not to mention that oda isn’t consistent when it comes to sizes anyways. Which isn’t an issue it’s just something I’m personally keeping in mind
Six chest -
Kaido's Fruit
Law's Fruit
Kuma's Fruit
3 Hancock sister's Fruit as three world nobles may win before pirates attack
I think the final chest might've just contained the Ope Ope no Mi.
my headcanon is that Blackbeard has Pudding to steal the plans for Pluton from Franky.
2:44 I did lol, didn’t even know One piece existed until just before my freshman year, now it’s taken over most of my interests
Few chapters before where we have Amazon Lilly Serapham has some character from her older self and helps Luffy , Maybe all the Kuma cyborgs/ robots have some Kuma in them which they going to attack awhile army of Kuma against Saturn which occupies him for straw hats, Vega punks and Bonnie to escape.
Guys I have a theory for Imu's devil fruit:
I don't know how to use reddit so I am just posting my theory here.
I think in most of one piece, final rivals are the polar opposite. I think that Imu is definitely luffy's final opponent. Luffy's fruit is all about freedom. So I think Imu's fruit would be about limitation.
He could have BB's upgraded darkness fruit. We can think of Imu as a buffed up Blackbeard, as Blackbeard is trying to be the Pirate king any way and Imu is basically the king of the world. We have seen upgraded fruits in the past, as in case of Fire-Magma Fruit and Blade-weapon fruit. Also, darkness can be seen as limiting light, in a form. So, I think Imu has a upgraded Darkness fruit, where he can basically capture any physical or philosophical thing like will and can not only negate other people's fruit, but also use the abilities of the person's devil fruit. So, like all for one, he can use other people's devil fruit abilities and is collecting devil fruit abilities all this time. So, luffy would have to fight every single devil fruit at once.
One other fruit he could have is the death death fruit. Death is always seen as a all mighty power in anime, and I was thinking why there isn't any in one piece yet. So, The fight between death and freedom could also be quite cool.
Feel free to add to this theory.
I feel like imu fruit will be abyss abyss fruit. Just like flame magma you mentioned abyss will be the superior one.
@@alister4936 could definitely be the case. It would also support the notion of inhibiting the freedom as the Abyss is known as something that anything can never leave
Am i ttye only one super worried that the thumbnail is modelled after gon?
Quality content every time
I just love the idea of Roger opening the chest and-
-Zelda item jingle-
"You got a baby!"
but I do wonder,we all know that oda foreshadows a lot of thing and the six chest that now has been empty are the same chests in the start of the series where the guy who was stuck in the chest was found ,meaning that God valley could be that island and also the guy was calling himself a god and people told that it was the island where God lived
Goda's cooking 🔥🔥🗣📢
Also just want to say I’m almost certain the reason fujitora blinded himself was because he saw one of the world nobles demon form
Question: dou you think when kaido ate his fruit it originally gave him the form of a koi fish and he awakened it into a dragon,like the story of the koi swimming up the waterfall to become a dragon?
This is something I really want to see. I want to see Bonny power Luffy up to his best future self.
I like to think Celestial dragons dont eat devilfruits. they are insanely rich and probably own the majority of the islands around the 4 blues. the only celestial dragon we know with a devil fruit was Doffy who ate it after his whole murder spree and bringing his dads head to the celestial dragons, other than the 5 elders ( I believe they are not DF users but are original demons who would become fruits later if they were ever murdered)
They usually give them to their slaves as entertainment
@@Bowiiihowdy that's my thought on it too. Pretty sure it was mentioned in the translation I read.
So, according to V.P. the soul is comprised of memories...and to transfer memories is to transfer a soul? So, he used Kuma to extract his own memories stored them there at Egghead, took Kuma's consciousness and made him a cyborg, programmed Kuma to do things, protect the Sunny etc...then programmed Kuma to come back to Egghead to retrieve his memories/soul. Is Bonny a part of the plan or just a cherry on top seeing she might be able to restore his body?
"I'm not joking, mostly because I'm not very funny" that made me cackle
My 2 thoughts on this.
1.Shanks kept the chest they found him in and later put the devil fruit in there for safekeeping
2. If Kuma is dead, shouldn't his powers stop working, therefore his memory bubble disappear?
He's not "dead" his physical body is still alive. He's basically brain dead. But not literally dead.
bit of a random thought. Is there any chance that the 6 chest on god valley are the same chests gaimon had?
Bonnie is the only one who would be able to turn momo back to his kid age I always found it weird that he has a mind of a child In a adult body
Also, Doffys tournament for the flame fruit was set up possibly to mimic the old fruit awarded tournaments on GV.
There is always the possibility of Whitebeard
Either his own Devil Fruit (since I don‘t think we know when he ate it) or maybe one he gave one of his sons (like the phoenix fruit)
Two powerful Devil Fruits that would make sense to be in the World Nobles possession
This actually makes a lot of sense. I'm totally for seeing Luffy do a Gon to get out of a bind.
Another possibility for the similarity between the chests: Oda just likes drawing chests with a particular style, similarly to his preference for female characters with overlapping styles.
I have a theory about bonny's devil fruit: bonny's devil fruit make her younger but we don't see it, every year after she ate her devil fruit she become younger in her mind (she's starting to age backwards).
@15:05. In the mystery chest--It’s probably any greed island card you want
so basically luffy's gonna become gon without the draw backs
Great video, just the thing I need to start me up! Keep making videos like this!
My current random theory. Not likely, just ideas for fun >;^D Apologies for length. I'm just thorough with my thoughts is all.
At the end of the Void Century, the user of Bonney's awakened (or Bonney herself) was asked to permanently reverse Joy Boy and others to infants, reversing them permanently (not temporarily) to before they ate their fruits causing the fruits to respawn, and them all having to grow up again. All except Bonney lost their DF along with memories because she ate her DF when she was a baby. She was found and raised by Kuma as an orphan, believing the World Government was also responsible for her situation.
Toki with her awakened DF could see visions of the future as well as send others (not just herself) forward in time, but not what would happen once she went there herself. She was asked to send their infant selves into the future close to 800 years. She'd jump years ahead and make sure the legends continued, helped ensure the poneglyphs were all placed up until recent time.
No proper mothers seen for many main characters because they were born during the Void Century but have no memory of it since they pretty much reset as infant. Their souls are still the same.
Toki arrived in Wano and saw the new future with her there. She had to lead a path that open up Wano, but Oden, the kids, and the crew were new additions she didn't foresee happening with her presence and she wanted a family. She looked into the future and saw the new outcome, 20 years in the future, sent the Oden crew forward with Momo. The legends still fit, but with differences like Wano not opening yet, Momo wants to ensure another aspect is fulfilled. The weapon being ready and Wano ready to fight because Oden's journal said it was required.
Joy Boy/Luffy's DF being a mythical type bonded but since he never properly died and his soul gone/disconnected, it sought his soul to be reunited.
So many orphans from pirates pillaging and warring, who would notice the out of nowhere new orphans dropped in.
Dragon isn't the father of Luffy. The Will of D legend is passed down as descendants of Joy Boys crew families, not just him. Dragon is the great great great great (so on) descendant of Joy Boy who came across JB/Luffy before or after he was enslaved by the Celestial Dragons. He raised him for a while in secret. Garp went to see him (furious he was enslaved but could do nothing), arriving at the same time the slave escape took place.
Dragon convinced Garp to take "his grandson Luffy" to keep him safe and let him escape. Garp believes Luffy is his biological grand son because he has no reason not to believe it. Luffy IS Joy Boy, but Zunesha never knew him as a kid and wasn't aware or the plan due to his punishment and being separated from them all.
Okay, done. Much love and hope ya enjoy the idea.
The thing that I want to hear more about is what were the next islands where this event happened. They mentioned it happens once every 3 years and God Valley was 20+ years back.
I think the egghead ending is going to be same as sabaody. Kuma is coming to egghead and he is gonna help the crew to escape as he did before.
This is giving me increadibly heavy “10 year bazooka” from Hitman Reborn! Vibes. Where someone would be hit with a shot from the 10 year bazooka and be replaced with a version of them from 10 years in the future.
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"I'm not joking, mostly because I'm not very funny" 🤣🤣 nawl my guy you are hilarious 💀
Maybe Shanks felt really nostalgic over the chest he was found in, so he kept it and used it to store the Gum-Gum Fruit so many years later.
Kinda curious what Bonnie's awakening would be... Maybe she could make her aging permanent?