That's an excellent point. Calzaghe beating a 39 year old washed up Roy Jones in 2008 is extremely relevant in discussing a mid 90's Toney vs. Eubank fight.
loll James Toney is fuckin awesomeee...i absolutely love him, he is soo funny...n also a great fighter...he is definately a living legend, not many fighters have done of what he did...
Great stuff, there was certainly a negative agenda against James Toney from inside the boxing world during two different stretches of his career and his heavyweight tenure after the Ruiz fight is one of those stretches in time, 3 straight robberies and a cut screwjob followed by no fights after the easy Oquendo victory.
LMAO Nigel benn would have been easy pickings for toney. He is tailor made for james toney's style. Eubaink would have been more difficult because of his counter punching abilities. Toney by U.D James Toney in his prime is one of the most naturally talented fighters in recent times alongside pernell whitaker and floyd mayweather. If people here seriously believe benn and eubaink would have beaten james toney they can not seriously be boxing fans.
Toney would defeat Eubank. Eubank is a very good fighter. But he took a ton of punishment against Nigel Benn in their first fight and struggled against Michael Watson. By the way, thank Richard Steele for that premature stoppage in his "victory" against Nigel Benn. Toney gets the victory in a hard fought decision.
@imperialpod The ideal fighter for Toney was a come forward puncher, who threw the right hand a lot, like Barkley and Benn. Benn would of been eating counter rights all night. The punch which gave Toney problems was the leaping left hook, a punch which wasn't in Benn's arsenal The Eubank-Toney fight would of been a great fight. Eubank was a long range fighter, Toney was a mid-close range fighter and they were both counter punchers. Power:Eubank Handspeed: Toney Footwork:Toney Skillset:Toney
@imperialpod Eubank vs Benn II was in 1993-10-09 Toney vs Jones was in 1994-11-18 The winner of Toney-Jones was supposed to fight the winner of Benn-McClellan, its talked about in the following books: The Dark Trade by Donald McRae War, Baby:The glamour of violence by Kevin Mitchell There was no talk of Nunn-Benn in 1994 because Nunn was trying to get another shot at the Title, he would fight and lost to Frankie Liles in 1994-12-17
Toney said that the biggest beating hegave was against Barkley then Toney said Benn was to scared to fight him yet Benn destroyed a younger Barkley inside 1 round when it took Toney 9 so I don't really understand what Toney is on about. Onething you can't call Benn is a coward he faught Barkley in the USA he displayed courage against McClellan and he pretty much begged fora fight with a prime RJJ to be made.
hes got the right to be cocky. not many 40 year olds can trash talk top notch fighters, ranging from boxing to MMA. this guy is calling everyone out and noone wants it. i say give the guy a chance against the the K brothers. HES BEEN CALLING THEM OUT FOR YEARS NOW! i say, if the guy is shot, old, fat, short then it shouldnt be too hard to beat him right?
@pritch9598 roy jones doesnt belong in the same sentence as james toney,soon as roys speed and athleticism went away he couldnt do nothing,skill wise toney is better boxer then roy ever was
@rjjibtfmj Toney was never a big puncher at mw/smw, he tended to wear his opponents down and stop them late. Eubank had one punch ko power, which he rarely used especially after the Watson II fight. Look at that uppercut he dropped Watson with, or the right hand he dropped iron chinned Collins with. Either way both him and Toney had iron chins so the fight would go the distance I think a blueprint for the fight would be the Toney-Reggie Johnson fight
That's an excellent point. Calzaghe beating a 39 year old washed up Roy Jones in 2008 is extremely relevant in discussing a mid 90's Toney vs. Eubank fight.
loll James Toney is fuckin awesomeee...i absolutely love him, he is soo funny...n also a great fighter...he is definately a living legend, not many fighters have done of what he did...
wooooooooooo did i just hear toney talkin bout pacquiao??!!wooooooooooooo i got mad respect for this guy now
Toney is jokes! He cracks me up!
That time when you start out the interview asking "Are you the greatest fighter in the world?" B-)
now that shows he loves the sport
Great stuff, there was certainly a negative agenda against James Toney from inside the boxing world during two different stretches of his career and his heavyweight tenure after the Ruiz fight is one of those stretches in time, 3 straight robberies and a cut screwjob followed by no fights after the easy Oquendo victory.
well said
LMAO
Nigel benn would have been easy pickings for toney. He is tailor made for james toney's style. Eubaink would have been more difficult because of his counter punching abilities. Toney by U.D
James Toney in his prime is one of the most naturally talented fighters in recent times alongside pernell whitaker and floyd mayweather.
If people here seriously believe benn and eubaink would have beaten james toney they can not seriously be boxing fans.
toneys hella funny.
Toney doesnt have feet, he has body movement.
haha: aint nobody done what i done i gone from middleweight to heavyweight: you grown fat!!
Toney would defeat Eubank. Eubank is a very good fighter. But he took a ton of punishment against Nigel Benn in their first fight and struggled against Michael Watson. By the way, thank Richard Steele for that premature stoppage in his "victory" against Nigel Benn. Toney gets the victory in a hard fought decision.
@imperialpod
The ideal fighter for Toney was a come forward puncher, who threw the right hand a lot, like Barkley and Benn. Benn would of been eating counter rights all night. The punch which gave Toney problems was the leaping left hook, a punch which wasn't in Benn's arsenal
The Eubank-Toney fight would of been a great fight. Eubank was a long range fighter, Toney was a mid-close range fighter and they were both counter punchers.
Power:Eubank
Handspeed: Toney
Footwork:Toney
Skillset:Toney
@imperialpod
Eubank vs Benn II was in 1993-10-09
Toney vs Jones was in 1994-11-18
The winner of Toney-Jones was supposed to fight the winner of Benn-McClellan, its talked about in the following books:
The Dark Trade by Donald McRae
War, Baby:The glamour of violence by Kevin Mitchell
There was no talk of Nunn-Benn in 1994 because Nunn was trying to get another shot at the Title, he would fight and lost to Frankie Liles in 1994-12-17
I thought Griffin fought a great fight and won. He needs some respect too
Toney said that the biggest beating hegave was against Barkley then Toney said Benn was to scared to fight him yet Benn destroyed a younger Barkley inside 1 round when it took Toney 9 so I don't really understand what Toney is on about. Onething you can't call Benn is a coward he faught Barkley in the USA he displayed courage against McClellan and he pretty much begged fora fight with a prime RJJ to be made.
hes got the right to be cocky.
not many 40 year olds can trash talk top notch fighters, ranging from boxing to MMA.
this guy is calling everyone out and noone wants it.
i say give the guy a chance against the the K brothers.
HES BEEN CALLING THEM OUT FOR YEARS NOW!
i say, if the guy is shot, old, fat, short then it shouldnt be too hard to beat him right?
i dont think so, u say over achiever and i say this guy could of achieved WAYYYYYYY more than he has already.
Not a pleasant guy,but a great great technical and defensive fighter....Lights out no Doubt!!!
BURGER KING baby BURGER KING!!... DON KING KISS MY ASS
Yep. Had he been a bit more disciplined as far as staying in shape goes, he would accomplished so much more.
hm.. i know it sounded like english but can someone translate?
Eubank had zero interest in fighting Toney back then.
@pritch9598 roy jones doesnt belong in the same sentence as james toney,soon as roys speed and athleticism went away he couldnt do nothing,skill wise toney is better boxer then roy ever was
@rjjibtfmj
Toney was never a big puncher at mw/smw, he tended to wear his opponents down and stop them late. Eubank had one punch ko power, which he rarely used especially after the Watson II fight. Look at that uppercut he dropped Watson with, or the right hand he dropped iron chinned Collins with.
Either way both him and Toney had iron chins so the fight would go the distance I think a blueprint for the fight would be the Toney-Reggie Johnson fight
yeh but toney fought jones when he was young, nt a past it ldman like calzaghe
@silversamurai1000 how can u say eubank has more power than toney, it looks like to me your just tryin to give him something. toney had more ko's
styles make fights
benn would of been a counter punch away from getting his shit knocked out.
eubank beat him.
@imperialpod
Toney would beat Benn, most probably stop him late, Benn was tailor made for him
no no eubank or benn would of beaten fat toney
Eubank had no interest in Toney because Toney got humiliated by Jones jr!