I've been absolutely loving this content recently! I feel like there's so many things that I can improve on and all 3 of the guys have so much knowledge, and the style of video is so great!
I dont know if MxU will read this, This video came on my channel so, since being a drummer wanted to check it out. Then I saw the big man. Drew!!! I used to tour with Drew back in the mid to late 90's. He was my road manager and I was his tech. Tell him I said hi!!!
With in-ears you're isolated with sound which came out from it. To make in-ear sound really comfortable you need a separate sound engineer with second mixer or Tablet connected to the main mixer. You need additional mics in hall to pic up audience sound and add it to in-ear mix to not feel weirdly isolated. If some of the instruments became louder (some of guitar pedals had more gain, different sound presets volumes on keyboards or midi sources, someone changed volume knob on amp, etc.) - with in-ears you're much more sensitive and unanticipated surprises will be much more painful to ears than from floor wedge. You don't need all mix in wedge and can hear real sound of audience. You can get more detailed sound with in-ears but with much more efforts and dedicated engineer for that on the one side. Or you can have more stable and predictable sound with much less efforts with wedges on the other side. I was very pleased with my vocal tiniest details control with in-ears but it's hard to have great and balanced sound of everything else. And I went back to wedges. Important thing to make stage sound comfortable - add stage side fill speakers. Send mix from PA there and make its volume a bit lower than wedge in front of you. I have only my vocal in my wedge and little bit of keyboards to be in pitch. And I hear all the mix from side fills which made overall experience much more comfortable. It's not such super-detailed sound of my voice that I can hear subtle breath details from my vocal mic, but I hear my vocal very well and as a huge advantage I hear all the band and audience live and feel all overall sound much better and receive much more energy and connection with band and audience.
quick question, why can't i hear their space (i.e the hall or the reverberance of their auditorium)....thinking of also implementing IEMs in my worship venue
I have ran IEM's for years and would pull one out every now and then and ended up causing me to have vertigo and loose my balance which really sucks while performing!
I find the idea slightly odd of spending thousands to get perfectly fitting custom IEMs then putting ports in them, to me it seems like going to the trouble of perfectly sealing the bottom of your boat and then drilling a neat hole in the bottom haha - have I got it all wrong though?
Question: Why do IEM mixes sound like so raw? Is it possible to get a version of what the audience is hearing (beautifully mixed, eq etc) instead of a "raw" mix? I played with IEMs once and thinking it would sound like music you play on your phone using your earphones, I was a little disappointed to hear it so raw (like everything is DI and sent to your ears).
What might sound good for the FOH might not be good for your in-ears. There's also a few massive things with in-ears that turn a "meh" IEM mix into something that is polished and something that will inject energy and enjoyment in what you're hearing. 1) Stereo: stereo ears are the biggest upgrade in my opinion that you can make. A lot of people are turned off by IEMs because they sound so weird and closed off, and the biggest reason is because you're now confined to hearing everything in mono down the center. Once you have stereo and you can pan things like you please, you have such a more massive sense of space, and creates a massive amount of clarity. Once your elements are also in stereo (guitars, keys, tracks, etc.) this will only compound. 2) Ambience: crowd microphones and reverbs are also part of what you're naturally used to hearing without ears. So having crowd microphones and some reverb on your drums and vocals will also add that back.
Traditional monitors are normally mixed “raw” (no delay, no reverb, no compression, no channel eq) which promotes clarity and fights feedback on a noisy stage and that’s what typically gets sent to your iem. Is it possible to get the good stuff? Yes! I ask to have my mix sent post eq and effects. I get the same channel eq, compression and gates going to the house mix in my iem mix. It’s not post fader, just post eq/effects, so the house fader moves don’t mess with my personal mix. The engineer gives a little extra of my keys and vocals with some reverb and I’m good to go. If you want to take it to the next level, go stereo. Pan those vocals and instruments. The trick is letting the engineers know what you want before you get on stage. Digital mixers are awesome but it takes time to set everything up. I have an extra trick up my sleeve when the engineer has run out of busses, sends and ideas. I have the engineer send me the actual house mix. Yep, the actual house mix. I have a splitter on my vocal mic, a di on my keyboard and my own personal mini monitor mixer. I mix the house mix, my vocals and keys into my ears. If I’m really feeling frisky, I plug in my little zoom recorder into my mixer and add a little on stage ambiance. Sometimes I even record the show while I’m at it. I hope that helps.
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I've never looked at it this way! THANK YOU! How do I sign up for MxU NOW?
Thanks, Scott! Go to www.mxu.rocks/now to sign up!
I'm just going to send this to my vocalists when I see them pull an ear out. 😂
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I've been absolutely loving this content recently! I feel like there's so many things that I can improve on and all 3 of the guys have so much knowledge, and the style of video is so great!
Thanks Ben! For more of this, check out www.mxu.rocks ! See ya there!
I dont know if MxU will read this, This video came on my channel so, since being a drummer wanted to check it out. Then I saw the big man. Drew!!! I used to tour with Drew back in the mid to late 90's. He was my road manager and I was his tech. Tell him I said hi!!!
Sadly, Andrew passed away in July of 2019. I always loved hearing what he had to say on MxU, he's missed for sure
Omg....nooo. that is really sad. Dang. Thank for sharing.
With in-ears you're isolated with sound which came out from it. To make in-ear sound really comfortable you need a separate sound engineer with second mixer or Tablet connected to the main mixer. You need additional mics in hall to pic up audience sound and add it to in-ear mix to not feel weirdly isolated. If some of the instruments became louder (some of guitar pedals had more gain, different sound presets volumes on keyboards or midi sources, someone changed volume knob on amp, etc.) - with in-ears you're much more sensitive and unanticipated surprises will be much more painful to ears than from floor wedge. You don't need all mix in wedge and can hear real sound of audience. You can get more detailed sound with in-ears but with much more efforts and dedicated engineer for that on the one side. Or you can have more stable and predictable sound with much less efforts with wedges on the other side.
I was very pleased with my vocal tiniest details control with in-ears but it's hard to have great and balanced sound of everything else. And I went back to wedges. Important thing to make stage sound comfortable - add stage side fill speakers. Send mix from PA there and make its volume a bit lower than wedge in front of you. I have only my vocal in my wedge and little bit of keyboards to be in pitch. And I hear all the mix from side fills which made overall experience much more comfortable.
It's not such super-detailed sound of my voice that I can hear subtle breath details from my vocal mic, but I hear my vocal very well and as a huge advantage I hear all the band and audience live and feel all overall sound much better and receive much more energy and connection with band and audience.
This channel is so darn amazing!! Thank you!!
Love to hear Stone teach
quick question, why can't i hear their space (i.e the hall or the reverberance of their auditorium)....thinking of also implementing IEMs in my worship venue
We use a plugin called NS1 from Waves. It's amazing.
Yes, all this it's true, many artist don't get sound from audience if they using iems.
I have ran IEM's for years and would pull one out every now and then and ended up causing me to have vertigo and loose my balance which really sucks while performing!
Thanks for the videos!! 👍🏾👍🏾
Glad you like them!
Thanks for the content! 😁
More to come!
Thx for sharing with us.
Wath is the brand of the in ear mentioned at the end ?
64 audio has that. I´ve got a6t, they sound really really good
@@konstantinbeeh6564 Oh, great. I'll looking to those.
I find the idea slightly odd of spending thousands to get perfectly fitting custom IEMs then putting ports in them, to me it seems like going to the trouble of perfectly sealing the bottom of your boat and then drilling a neat hole in the bottom haha - have I got it all wrong though?
According to the manufacturers who make in-ears, and have spent countless hours perfecting the formula, yes. ;)
If the singer feels the need to pull out one ear, then it's clear indication that their in ear mix is not good enough.
Question: Why do IEM mixes sound like so raw? Is it possible to get a version of what the audience is hearing (beautifully mixed, eq etc) instead of a "raw" mix? I played with IEMs once and thinking it would sound like music you play on your phone using your earphones, I was a little disappointed to hear it so raw (like everything is DI and sent to your ears).
What might sound good for the FOH might not be good for your in-ears. There's also a few massive things with in-ears that turn a "meh" IEM mix into something that is polished and something that will inject energy and enjoyment in what you're hearing.
1) Stereo: stereo ears are the biggest upgrade in my opinion that you can make. A lot of people are turned off by IEMs because they sound so weird and closed off, and the biggest reason is because you're now confined to hearing everything in mono down the center. Once you have stereo and you can pan things like you please, you have such a more massive sense of space, and creates a massive amount of clarity. Once your elements are also in stereo (guitars, keys, tracks, etc.) this will only compound.
2) Ambience: crowd microphones and reverbs are also part of what you're naturally used to hearing without ears. So having crowd microphones and some reverb on your drums and vocals will also add that back.
@@lukebogartmix how can I get stereo sound from my in earS?
Traditional monitors are normally mixed “raw” (no delay, no reverb, no compression, no channel eq) which promotes clarity and fights feedback on a noisy stage and that’s what typically gets sent to your iem. Is it possible to get the good stuff? Yes! I ask to have my mix sent post eq and effects. I get the same channel eq, compression and gates going to the house mix in my iem mix. It’s not post fader, just post eq/effects, so the house fader moves don’t mess with my personal mix. The engineer gives a little extra of my keys and vocals with some reverb and I’m good to go. If you want to take it to the next level, go stereo. Pan those vocals and instruments. The trick is letting the engineers know what you want before you get on stage. Digital mixers are awesome but it takes time to set everything up.
I have an extra trick up my sleeve when the engineer has run out of busses, sends and ideas. I have the engineer send me the actual house mix. Yep, the actual house mix. I have a splitter on my vocal mic, a di on my keyboard and my own personal mini monitor mixer. I mix the house mix, my vocals and keys into my ears. If I’m really feeling frisky, I plug in my little zoom recorder into my mixer and add a little on stage ambiance. Sometimes I even record the show while I’m at it.
I hope that helps.