My REAL Thoughts On How Negreanu Played
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.พ. 2021
- Today we're going to take an in-depth look at Daniel Negreanu's evolution in the heads up challenge.
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He didn't properly balance his loosey goosey range with his eating a sandwich range.
Such a rookie mistake.
Beefy sausage sandwich?
Was he on the phone? 🤔
Get some original material you douce
@18:40 Earlier you said a player shouldn't be 3betting AQo from the BB.. so why can't you have AQ here, assuming you would have call pre and not 3bet?
Wins a million dollars, still can't afford sleeves
Avoiding tax😂😂
lol
millions with an s with the amount of side bets he had.
Mike didn't deliver....
@@erikvandoorn1674 What do you mean?
The rake wasn’t high enough for dnegs to be serious.
lmao!
Best comment!
😂😂😂😂😂
Game selection was his biggest leak Doug. LMFAO.
you got it. Daniel should know better 1.5 million to Doug total with the Perkins side bet
@@pinneddwnews4139 fancy seeing you here. Reported, again 😂
Yeah in hindsight he should have prepared for a solid 6 months. Probably would have still lost but he would have avoided that huge hole.
He didn't understand that everything he does at the poker table conveys information.
Bee bee Beefy Sausage
oh my god LMFAO
Isn't that obvious
haha
Bruh LMFAO
Daniel just tweeted - "Losing more money to Doug is actually better"
😄
Lol
@@pinneddwnews4139 Bruh, if you are gonna impersonate someone to shill your BC scam, at least match the picture of the real guy. SMH, you can't trick rubes if you're a chump yourself.
RROOOFFFFLLLL
Looooooool
This challenge has resulted in a rich source of HU poker analysis from J Little and many others. Many of us keen non-pros have benefitted from Negreanau being man enough to pony up and play against a very strong hu player (and lose a million)!
find another player to learn from besides j little
@@ellypticosis3413 he’s pretty damn good man
💯
Problem is that much of that analysis is worthless because you probably wont be playing HUNL
@@ellypticosis3413 if you think he’s a bad teacher you’re bad at the game
Dnegs played almost 100% sausage theory optimal
Just wasn't beefy enough
The most winning player basically was saying that it was rigged and he didn’t get the cards and run outs hahaha (the sausage)... it’s all fun and games till you lose
Vegan sausage theory! Hahaha
Guys, remember the format. Full, short, and HU are TOTALLY different games. DNegs is obviously a HoF player but the less players in a game, like HU, it’s a new world. Full ring, you 100% fold JTo UTG+2 vs UTG open. Simple example. But 6 max, suit JT and 3 bet frequency comes into play. HU...fuk yeah. Give the man a break. He’s one of the best to ever play poker. He just got worked by one of the best HU specialists in the world.
@@jf5618 full and short is not really a big difference
Big congratulations on your win Doug. We’re going to miss you brother.
Where's he going ?
@@bradyrobertson23 quitting poker....again.
@Lubomir Radev I heard he is replacing Epstein and will start a new cult. Daniel will be one of the cultmembers.
Amanda will become the cult's toy.
Hard to be Vanessa and Doug let the Doug rest for awhile
@@pinneddwnews4139 I don’t know why’s you’re trying to imitate the real Doug lol, you’ve just made that TH-cam channel it says 😂, grow up please young man.
Congratulations on the win! Well deserved.
Are you now able to afford some shirts with sleeves??? :)
I think he would have to go broke to put the sleeves back on
My thoughts exactly. That look is terrible.
How much did Daniel ended up losing?
@@paulchingh2873 1.2 mil
@@sbussie22 thanks
Loved it Doug. I’m gonna miss the content from you. Hopefully you will develop a random love of poker again in a couple of years. Best of luck moving forward.
I can kind of see why he's done with it. Nowadays you need a team of nasa analysts, five page contract, and million row spreadsheet to play good hunl. it's all science and no socializing.
@@creedolala6918 he never socialized or cared about the social aspect, even when he loved poker. That wasn’t the issue, by his own admission he just got burned out
Well making a ridiculous amount of money sure makes his decision to quit easier! Now he can live comfortably for a long time.
He explicitly said on a Reddit AMA that he got burned out because of over analyzing and spreadsheets making the game all about memorization and no creative thinking, no strategizing and no fun.
@@gordongoodwin6279 but he did at one point. The year he won the One Drop & the Team bracelets, didn't he also win another Poker award for charity work & maybe promotion of the game?
Never been a fan of "reaction videos" but would love to see a video of Dnegs live reacting to this
Reaction videos are generally more appealing when you have an interest in both sides of the thing being reacted to
Hahahahaha me too!! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm sure it would be lots of yelling and head scratching lol
Most relaxed I’ve seen you in a vid in ages ... amazing how a million bucks makes you feel :)
I like how you were lining up the sound proofing squares on the wall nicely, then like halfway down you just said fuck it and gave up trying to make it symmetrical.
Everytime we see the room I'm trying to figure out how he went about this... maybe a Format if he again stops playing Poker
And then went ahead and used a headset mic half an inch from his mouth 😩
Best of luck Doug! Thanks for everything you did for the game and the players!
Love from norway, and the rest of the world!
DAMN you are sharp Doug! Total respect! I really like how you refer back even to the first live session, as you realized that he revealed important information with his comment about your bluff selection. You are - always - such a good and clear teacher! Keep it man, where ever you go
You guys made history :) Thanks for the run. Great review!
Doug I impressed at your review of Daniels' play during this challenge. I expected you to review it differently. You have earned my respect by giving him the credit he deserves for playing a very difficult challenge against one of the best heads up players. Kudos to you
Pretty cool of you to acknowledge his game in a way that wasn't disrespectful. Even though he lost a million.
Well by giving DNegs a B+ what does that rate his game then? Quite a subtle way of giving himself an A+ I would think :D
@@presmaker kinda what I was going for lol
i personally would love if Doug coached Dnegs in his upcoming heads up game.. what a story that would be
As a fan of poker, I appreciate both you and Daniel going this. It was a great rail during covid. Thanks for doing it!
Congrats Doug! Been watching you play and your videos since I was 15 and turned 21 yesterday and going to Vegas today to play in some tournaments. I’ve learned a lot from your videos over the years but this challenge was amazing and super insightful thanks for all your content and knowledge of the game over the years. Definitely gonna miss this challenge and poker videos again. Best of LUCK on you next endeavors #morerake
Don't play at Orleans they take 29%
Save your money. You’ll thank me in the long run. Otherwise you can count on two things:
You’ll be older, and you’ll be broke(r)
Congrats on the win Doug! It's great seeing you play as always. Enjoy whatever you're doing my friend.
I like the respect that you give Dneg! Good sportsmanship!
In few years to come people will be kicking themselves in regrets if they miss this opportunity of buying and investing in crypto currency
Doug's tone is so objective and respectful to Dnegs but i bet Daniel hates it lol. He was still banging on about luck and missed draws in his last stream.
I don't think you can really claim variance when you play tens of thousands of hands over the course of several weeks.
@@ostiedestrie2155
He's trying
@@ostiedestrie2155 you defiantly can. Bill Perkins claimed one standard deviation for a HU game like this is like 40 Buyins, so you couldn’t even conclude that Polk is the better player from this sample confidently winning like 30 buyins
Although, he is 10000% the better HU player no debate, 25k isn’t that big of a sample, if they played another 100k+ polk would still crush him but I’d be surprised if he maintained even half the bb/100 that he got in this 25k
@@ostiedestrie2155 In heads up, a 40 buyin swing isn't that unusual over 25K hands. The variance in heads up is massive. That said, I think the variance in this match was actually really low. Except for that single massive session Doug pretty consistently grinded out a profit.
@@2011blueman yea bro, absolutely. Been waiting for the pots won without showdown stats.
"What's up guys, Doug Polk here"... It's been so long, those words almost made me cry
I feel so honored to have watched this challenge! Congrats Doug! Once again the supreme leader took one for the team! Take care good sir
great review Polk, thank you for the challenge. respect!
He just won 1 million. Dominated thoroughly. But still analytical and humble! Kudos and congrats to the win, Doug!
didnt sominate throughly lol, Negs won like 3 sessions straight and pulled back half a mil, it was just luck that Doug had at the end, Dgnegs also started spewing last 1k hands to make something back and stay under mil.
Haha he is just pretending to seem respectable, he is not actually.
DNegs crashed him live where he is the specialist, Doug crashed online where he was in his own element. Absolutely nothing suprising about any of it.
Respect to both it was fun to see something by 2 stars of the game
I enjoyed these moonlight master highlights so much
Doug isn’t a star of the game
Very well played both of you! 🤙🏼
Well done video, u really are an excellent evaluator and explainer. Thanks for sharing
It would have been so easy to be smug and condescending in this breakdown, but you stayed classy. Respect.
The crooked acoustic foam panels in the background are driving my OCD absolutely nuts. Please fix that.
Tremendously entertaining, thanks to both you and Daniel. You played amazing. :D
Spectacular assessment. Rounded, thoughtful and honest. Thank you.
im going to miss having this channel up 3 days a week
Congrats to you my man,you did hell of a job this challange ,it is inspireing.
I think you should consider coming back to heads up nl,that format just suites you and i dont think there is many people who would have the edge against you.
Him, his poker frequency calculator app and the rest of his team for aome more "heads up" no limit?
@@TheGillenium you are just mad your boy got schooled heheheheh
@@hancocksucks3300 he aint my boy jackass lol. I dont give a fuck about daniel negraneau. But doug polk uses a team and tracking app to play heads up poker, period.
@Doug: thanks for a really honest and I thought classy in-depth postmortem of the challenge. No BS out of you-really appreciate it. I hope I learned something from watching most of the challenge.
Thanks for all you've done for the poker community. Congratulations on going out on top!
I don’t think Daniel gets enough credit for how well he played/adjusted, no other “old school” live pro could come close to the level of play he reached.
agree completely, he deserves a lot of credit.
He pay for his credit for sure. I give him credit since he's paying it
Not true lol. A lot of old school pros would've played it better. That's such a stupid blanket statement lol.
Phil Ivey?
Be didn't reach that high of a level be improved as challenge went out but was outclassed beginning to end . He gets credit for being man enough to play even though he knew he was going to lose most likely not people would accept a challenge where they were a big under dog
Sharks after taking fish money:
You played good, I give you B+. Come back next week.
😂😂😂
Never insult a fish. Certainly not one that gives you $1M
Don’t think Doug would play him next week think he being sincere when says his game improved he’ll of a lot Doug could find better spot if he wanted
Nah... Doug is just being honest here, he doesn't even wanna play anymore
Doug going to enjoy his 1 million dolllar payday for few months then give dneg a rematch near the end of the year. What a Hustler
Great challenge, great win. Thanks for sharing!
Great breakdown! Loved the challenge, congrats on the W!
Listening to Doug allows me to realize how much the game passed me by and how much I didn't apply myself.
Having realised this, you're closer to getting ahead of the curve than you realise.
You're listening to an online heads up specialist who is one of the top players in the world at that particular speciality.
@@LukePettit This. Most players are so deep in the Dunning-Kruger effect that they become their worst enemy on the felt. I literally didn't even start to become profitable at 6-max and Full Ring until I convinced myself that I actually sucked.
@@2011blueman True, but Staunton was similar and he's an after thought now.
This. I was a winning player during the mid-2000s boom. Its taken me this long to really accept what a fish I've become.
Doug with the “acoustic foam + shit headset” setup. Rock it, brotha
I'm really.pleaaed in the respect shown to his game. Great effort Doug, and the analysis is spot on.
Amazing 'Last dance' Doug. Congrats.
Doug I love seeing you talking positively about Daniels game. You’re clearly the better heads up player but it’s nice when you’re humble about it. Great work.
I agree the biggest thing I took away from this was dnegs acted poorly and complained about his supposed bad luck and whined about it constantly. Anyone with a clue about heads up knew doug was the much better heads up player the challenge didn't change that
Clearly the better (**ONLINE**) heads up player.
Live 200 hands played Dnegs 117k up.
Online 25000 hands played Polk 1.2million up.
You can build a strong argument that Dnegs is 10 times better live than Doug is online.
@@jackcollins7061 bro ur comment doesnt make any sense
Vanessa looking a little pasty after the long grind of this challenge
I don’t think that’s her. Vanessa woulda bluffed it all off.
@@ttilt4261 true her poker career was really an audition tape to any NFL teams looking for a punter
lol
She is pregnant so be nice!
Selbst is pregnant? How'd he manage that?
Thanks, Doug. You're a great guy and you inspire me in my regular life outside of poker.
Will miss you dude. Congratulations on your win and good luck on all future endeavours. You will be missed
Really glad you two buried the hatchet. Big fan of you both
Daniel confused a whining strategy with a winning strategy
My brain is now full! Great video and challenge!!
Tremendous video. One of your best.
doug is looking more like daniel every day. in all seriousness, I missed these vids, the music struck a pang in missing old doug polk vids. Best of luck in your future endeavors.
Hey Dnegs is down a million but at least doug said he played well for a live player lol
The golden rule is.....don't tap the glass.
they should actually play 1v1 live next
Well done man, much love
Really, really good analysis Doug
Daniel seemed to have missed so much value on the river with his checks or check backs or check calls or just calls.
Playing scared,Obvious
I agree!
He folded on the river on many big pots.
He missed so much river value.
Enjoy your "idle rich" life Doug. I hope you find something you can grind hard AND also really enjoy.
Great match, much respect for Daniel too!
How to describe the amount of joy this video brings you. I really can't.. I'm only 60 seconds in. I'm entertained to say the least hahaha
Doug have you ever considered making a pun out of Polk and poker, something like Polker hands would be so clever!
Bro you're soooo late on this one! Doug's been aware of the pun for a loooong time
@@BeegYoshi24 appreciate you being a good bro and helping your fellow bro, bro.
Sounds dumb
Too obvious
@@BeegYoshi24 I don’t know to /whoooosh or not. Stupid or next level sarcasm?
Was totally expecting Daniel to call in at the end of the video for some closure. You guys complete each other
They should do the Double Dutch Rudder
Now kiss.
He said after the match it was pretty likely that they would do a podcast together at some point to discuss the challenge. Maybe Joey’s? Didn’t sound like anything was set in stone yet.
Classy. Congrats Doug, well earned.
Excellent review.
What's up guys
You need to understand that everything you do at the table, conveys, Beefy Sausage
BEe Bee Beefy Sausage
Dikn Mahand
We 💖 Doug!
Great analyse! Thx
congrats mate, well played.
Let this sink in for a minute...Dnegs has been a winning player for 20+ years, amassing millions in winnings and at times arguably one of the best NL tournament players in the world.
That same person competed his ass off, played exceptionally well and still managed to lose 1.2 million dollars.
Doug Polk = 🐐, what else is there to say.
all Dnegs winnings come from stupid shitty tourneys where all you have to do is not run like garbage for 120 hands.
@@codmott286 how did you see this comment? I specifically posted this for people with an IQ over 30. I don't need nut nibbling trolls coming up for fresh air posting ignorant and absurdly dumb comments. By your definition you should have a billion dollars in tourney winnings. How on earth did you find the egg first? 😳
Well said. Easy to bash daniel. Dough is very easy to root for when you are younger generation.
Dnegs is one of the best OG players no doubt. It’s his attitude which is 50:50 balanced with being an asshat and a decent guy
@@hmd6202 lol, 30 IQ post begets 30 IQ response. Successful tourney player accepts HU challenge and gets the floor mopped with him; news at 5
He seemed to think in the post match interview that he was more likely to be just missing on hands. KQs on a J10(same suit board) that doesnt get there in any way. he seemed to think this is where he was losing money..instead of the points you are making in this video that have nothing to do with luck and everything to do with how to play.
And that is why Doug is the GOAT
does he think that ? i thought those videos were just trolling but idk.
there's levels to this game, you can listen to Daniel verbalize strategy and tell he is stuck on a 1990 level of tournament understanding
Hope this means he'll want to go again next year lol
Well played man, next level thinking in play. Big respect to DNegs as well for not bailing out at the half way point when over half a mill down.
Nice to see and hear a humble mr Polk!
I think I said this on your last retirement final video explaining hands in the wider context of the game's strategy but it's worth saying again. There's no-one who comes close to being able to zoom out then zoom in from the macro perspective to the micro as well and as casually as you do.
You're just lucky, that's all.
Lucky how? Dnits was outplayed the entire match dude.
bruh.
Lol
@dougpolk how do you not pin this comment?
@@KillDozer187
Whoooooooooooooosh
Thanks Doug. Interesting analysis
Fun to watch Doug, nice score as well sir.
Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that D-Negs doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing!
Then why would he voluntarily lose $1.2 million?
@@stupidguy97 No, you don't understand! We NEED to dispel once and for all with this fiction that D-Negs doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing!
Daniel knows that 1.2 mill is money well spent
@@stupidguy97 Because losing $1.2 million is actually better
Who are u a qualified doctor?? Did u ever even walk in the same room of a guy u don’t even know? 🙄 watch his reaction videos, for a guy who knows what he’s doing he sure didn’t handle it too well... the guys a ego maniac liberal vegan whose needs to crash to earth. You’re a puppet.
For someone who quit poker you sure just played a lot of poker.
i'm impressed how doug has a sleeve of his muscles shirt rolled up
Good honest review! Congrats on the win 💵
The most important part of this is that Fee won his bet with Deeb on the last day.
what was the bet
20k I think something like that... Doug a mill plus
can you at least keep doing Poker Hands for us dude? Like 1 video a month or something?
No
Amazing Radiohead rented out the studio, for y Challenge 😎
Congrats was so fun
Appreciate the video, interviews, last session with cards face up, everything. It was really entertaining to watch. In the early part of this video, you mentioned that DN bluff frequency was not optimal, but in yesterday's post match you also mentioned how your coaches get getting on you that you were over-calling way too much. DN coaches may have noticed that as well which may be a strategic reason why he chose not to bluff as much as he should have?
Doug “I’m retired but will still take 1m from dnegs” Polk lol. The supreme leader has risen!
For a head up pro . He didn’t really smash him
@@phillmcgowan4680 1.2 million but didn't smash him 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤡
$1.2 🤣
@@phillmcgowan4680 🌭
Its an angle. Fedor did the same thing
Pretty inspiring. Thanks
Very impressive information
Doug, just say the word "Owned"
15:42
My respect for DN's technical abilities as a poker player went up as a result of this challenge. I genuinely thought he would get annihilated and, despite the eye-watering $ figure, in terms of ev bb/100 it was far from that. I still maintain the belief that a lot of the old-school name pros would've got absolutely rinsed (not naming names but genuinely believe a lot of those guys would have tables revolving around them at 500nl online) but I think it's fairly clear that DN is separate from those guys. I wasn't convinced before this challenge.
However, his bitching about variance is a symptom of a live player not understanding the brutality of online, and the brutality of online HU specifically. But even at 6max reg tables when you're grinding 400+ hands an hour, you'll have spells where you greenline just plummets mercilessly in a very short period of time. Live that might be a few days of grind. He's def a bit of a noob in that regard - probably not helped by it being both online and HU.
Good points. But Exactly what you said in the last sentence he was playing Doug at his game and it was a respectable showing. Daniel seemed to be comfortable at the beginning of the challenge in the live format which better fits him.
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@@pinneddwnews4139 You are the Man Dougie. Poker and TH-cam you can't get away from it. You are just to good
Gratz Polk! Really entertaining challenge. What were your All-in Ev adjusted winnings of the match?
Way to go Doug. Appreciate the analysis, and, realized through these sessions how f'in difficult heads-up is. Like tuition, he got his grades A-, B+, etc. for the paltry sum of $1.2 mil. Expensive Polk University!
Are pocket sausages a strong holding? I usually try to get action on my sausage after the flop.
This is classy as fuck, i love it! Doug being humble in the win and giving props to Daniel.. Well done Doug
Just wins 1.2 million, still vlogging in pajamas. Doug your the man, congratulations
What you have to understand is that everything you do at the table, conveys information.
You can't be loose goosey, holding your beefy sausage.
Oh baby, I love it!
Huge contrast in post-analysis, DNegs in his post-session interview after the final session said "I've never run this bad in my life" 🤣😃😆
Until he understands the concepts, he will always blame luck. For as long as he's been around, this actually shocks me.
"I have never run this bad in my life" = Calls a overbet in turn OOP with a gutshot.
It’s actually amazing that DNegs sounds like all the bad 1-2 players in the world. He should understand the game better than he does.
Doug pointed out a fundamental problem for DNegs tactical approach. An unwillingness to get stacked which stiffles the aggressiveness needed for HUNL cash, a uniquely different game and a wide departure from DNegs years of MTT experience.
Not like he ran great neither