Wolves at the gate The Father's Bargain // Pastor Rob reacts //Lyrical Analysis and Reaction Video
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The Fathers Bargain was inspired by John Flavels great work on the Covenant of Redemption. You can read it in its context here.
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The song is based off of the writing of John Flavel in his work called "The Father's Bargain" if you are interested in reading his short writing. It is not a theological statement but a way for us to dig deeper into the wonder of God's beautiful love for sinful men.
Thanks for sharing. I’ve read some of Flavels works. Wish I would have known this before diving into the song.
Robert Houghton yeah, I agree with your words on some of those “artistic” liberties regarding a “supposed conversation” as Flavel puts it. Thanks again guys!
@@roberthoughton7127 I wonder if you realized that Stephen Cobucci actually wrote this song and not some random youtube commenter lol
miss you man
I clicked so fast I almost exploded.
They picked your song! How cool....
@@jarrettlesly7279 I really enjoyed seeing their thoughts on it.
Oh yeah yeah yeah
@Definitely not a troll Did you see the band commented on the video? Pretty cool.
@@roberthoughton7127 No I have not looking for the comment now.
Wolves At the gate is one of the most Christian bands I have ever heard and they are always consistent with great music and lyrics.
They weren't pulling no punches from a christian standpoint! Very bold!
@@roberthoughton7127 even there old stuff they never was ashamed of there belief in Christ
Couldn't agree with u more!
They are Reformed. That's why their lyrics are saturated with theology and Gospel.
Agree 100%
I love you are teaching theology through discussion of music. Not to mention that it is correct theology.
On the basis that it's fictional, is it possible to have incorrect theology?
Definitely not a troll...
@matthew godding I got a bunch of heat for "misrepresenting" evolution. So yes, It's possible to get fictional things incorrect. 😉
@@roberthoughton7127 Well even if you reject evolution, you did completely misrepresent it and you come across as having no idea as to what the theory of evolution actually is or what it proposes.
No hate though, I love your channel. I just recommend that you look into it with more detail so that you do not make the same mistake twice and actually know what it represents
Another good song to do a reaction video to would be Break the Cycle - by For Today
Yes this has to be a must!!! Thank you for this comment and glad I seen it. It's been so long since I heard for today.
Eric Horstman or fearless
Or anything by For Today
Another band that is signed to solid state is Silent Planet. These guys are brilliant songwriters and have very thought-provoking lyrics. I song I would like to see you react to is Visible Unseen- Silent Planet. It's somewhat controversial, just a heads up.
Silent Planet is so underated it's ridiculous 🤦
Mateo Ottie For pastor Rob to cover just one of their songs, it would take like an hour with all the foot notes lolol
But i am in agreement and i vote “depths 2/3”
Those two will be very difficult to tackle lol
Silent Planet is my fav band for sure... listen to Everything Was Sound every day still
@@Thystonius Everything Was Sound is probably a top 5 album of mine over the past 10 years.
Honestly Garret gets dangerously close to flat-out permissing homosexuality in the lyrics and in the interview he had- I can understand the need to not be so guarded against such individuals as Christians, not condemning them and yes helping when in need but still being firm on what the Bible clearly says is sin.
I'm suspicious of Garret's theology from here out. I honestly don't know how I feel about his views because like I said, he's dangerously close to condoning sin in some of the things he's said.
Murderer by Impending Doom
Hell yes, please do, that would be awesome
Yes!!
Yes! Murderer by Impending Doom would be so perfect to do!
Wolves At The Gate are SUPERB!! Another suggestion ; "The Bird And the Snake". My son and I have met these guys in person, really great, down to earth guys! It was a highlight of our summer!
The Bird And The Snake is a very powerful song indeed. That song helped me greatly in a time of addiction and really helped me visualize how I was falling away from God and a beautifully wrapped up metaphor.
@@joshuawhitley5819 Yes, so many of their songs have such powerful messages that just cut straight to the heart. Unlike most religious songs that follow a "problem/answer" theme, this one takes you over the precipice and shows you the end result if the "answer" is not heeded. Another one that really speaks to me is "Wild Heart" th-cam.com/video/qEFm_Yfyu2o/w-d-xo.html
Frankly, I don't think they have a song I don't like/appreciate :)
May God bless you, brother!
Hold on...YOU MET THEM?!??!?? 😲😍😱
One of the most beautifully written songs I know!
@@jonathanzytkoskee9740 yeah there song like Light and Fire was so amazing though
Fit for a king Prince of agony
Love fit for a king!
I think he would love ‘Oblivion’ by them!
@@edgeward1122 I think they'd like pretty much any FFAK
Shattered glass by far the best, or death grip
Pretty much any fit for a king song would work great
YES! So glad you heard this! Can you listen to Wolves at the Gate's song "The Bird and the Snake"? It's really brilliant!
Honestly my favourite Christian band they never disappoint me music and lyric wise, i'd definitely recommend doing more by them, all their songs are fantastic but my personal favourites are Safeguards, Man Of Sorrows, Dead Man, My Ransomed Soul, Return and Hindsight, great reaction as always guys
Hey, you should check out August Burns Red - Indonesia, it's a song about a Christian missionary who died in a plane crash in Indonesia. Really good song!
Like that song, didn’t know about that
Ok Pastor Rob, I think you're finally ready to go to war. Ready yourself and then PLEASE do a video covering these two:
Oh, Sleeper - Son of the Morning
Oh, Sleeper - The Finisher
Best would actually be if he reviewed the full album as Oh, Sleeper writes narrative albums. The meaning of these songs are best understood having full albums meaning supporting it.
Could you please do FEED THE MACHINE by RED.
Yes!
You beat me to it, I was just thinking that
I suggest Darkest Part first seeing as it's like a prequel to it.
YES OMG I've been listening to this song foreverr
I'd love to see a breakdown of every Red song. I've been thinking of writing my thoughts about the lyrics for a while now, but I'd love to hear what kind of inspiration for the Christian walk that you two can find in their creative works. Thanks a lot! God bless you two.
Definitely check out I Am by Theocracy
ISimplyDon'tCare oh yes that song is great
Anything by Theocracy would be great, but ESPECIALLY Mirror of Souls (prepare for a 30+ minute video LOL).
This was the first time I heard this song and it literally made me cry. Full in tears falling and I'm not quite completely sure why.
That's the only reason I asked them so many times, to introduce people like you to the tears of joy this song gave me.
Same thing happens to me. Every. Time.
me too
That’s what the song is supposed to do. Being the emotion to what Jesus did for us. It’s so easy to brush it off and take it for granted. But He not only endured the worst form of torture and execution known to man at the time, but he endured the wrath of the Father.
Man of Sorrows is one of my favorite songs by them (still have Captors in my car along with some Demon Hunter, Fit for a King, Thousand Foot Crutch, Skillet, and some For Today) speaking of For Today you should do Elijah The Forerunner from the Portraits album (ALL great songs) but for me it's one of the BEST emotional representation of what it might have been like for Elijah standing all alone on mt. Carmel in the midst of nearly 1000 Ba'al prophets
Great bands and great song.
For today is soooo good
Yes finally!!!! Wolves at the gate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you guys!!!!
Living sacrafice is a great band to review also
Silent Crow Living Sacrifice is amazing
@@stever.9929 agreed, so heavy, so metal, lyrics so relevant to the time. Just an awesome combination
Saving Grace too
Wolves at the gate is the best band ever!
If I recall correctly, the speaking intro was an excerpt from a John Piper sermon.
Love Piper!
Nope. It's actually a guy by the name of Anthony Zurlo. Many of his sermons are available online.
You should react to Jenny by nothing more. The main theme of the song is addiction and the first few lines are a quote from the bible.
I agree. They should do a couple Nothing More songs. Rob, if you're reading this, look into Nothing More. Both Jenny and God Went North. Both amazing songs. Would love to hear your input on them.
I freaking LOVE that song.....used to listen to that band a lot when I first discovered them. Even bought the album with that song on it.
Wow I love finding new music through reaction channels
PLEASE DO FOR TODAY "Devastator" OFFICIAL VIDEO
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HANDS DOWN my favorite reaction so far I've seen. Amazing song, and analysis. God bless.
Fit For A King is also a great band
Father's Bargain was the first song I heard from this band and I was immediately hooked. WATG is such an amazing band. Killer music? Check. Deep lyrics? Check. Christian foundation? Double check!
Awesome review!!! Special thnx to you pastor for the theological depth. Is always refreshing to hear someone not only with a open mind but with an uncompromised biblical truth
A war that never ends by Phinehas!!!
Yesss💕
THIS IS MY FAVORITE BAND!!!! thank u guys so much!!!😁😁😁
Yes wolves at the gate! Great band and great song.
I think this is great. What you're doing with your son is awesome! I love heavy music and walking thru this with him and relating the lyrics to the Word of God is fantastic! Can't wait for the next Demon Hunter. God bless.
Never heard this band before, but I'm really enjoying that song. Reminds me a bit of some of Thrice's work. You should really do a reaction to anything Thrice really. Their lead singer, Dustin Kensrue, is heavily influenced by Christianity, philosophy and the works of C.S. Lewis. He was also the worship leader at Mars Hill Church when a lot of questionable things went down (that had nothing to do with him). I think it burnt him bad and it shows in the later Thrice material.
Yes. Definitely reminds me of old thrice
They've stated Thrice is one of their biggest influences
Like moths to flame is a good one by thrice about Peters betrayal.
This band is one of the best out there right now imo. Great singer and great songwriting,
I know this video is old, but if you wanted to do another WATG song, they just released a Christmas song this past November called Lowborn. It’s amazing and has quickly become one of my favorite songs.
Can't get enough of these. Great video as always. Love to hear your thoughts on Jesus Christ by Brand New.
Every song from this band is great. Listen to them all haha
Never heard of them but enjoyed it and y’all as always. Thanks for the video and spreading His word!
Along the lines of this, you need to listen to "Alone," or "Lower Still" by My Epic. Amazing musically, and deeply edifying music that really forces you to think deeper about just exactly what Jesus did for us.
My epic for sure! Any song is great! Lower still kind of plays into this soft then screaming vibe for sure. Nice pick!
A Patern in Pain by Phinehas
Yeeessss!💕
I would like to see you react to Anthem of the Angels by Breaking Benjamin.
You should do
Set Apart- Your counterfeit Jesus
For Today- Crown of thorns
Memphis May Fire- No ordinary love
Awesome review and discussion guys..
Amon Amarth - Thousand Years Of Oppression
I truly recommend you to analyse Jesus Christ Pose by Soundgarden. I would like to hear your opinion about it.
Pantera - Heresy
Fair warning, the song doesn’t support many biblical truths, if any.
HOWEVER, it is important to self reflect and hear the position and reasoning from someone who “opposes” you.
Also, just a heavy song and may spark interesting (and civil) conversation.
Yep, I agree with that type of approach.
I love this song. I love that the Son screams the line: "No one can contain the power and depths of my abundant love!" To me that is Christ responding in force to the workings of Satan with jealous anger. I also love the line: "Bring in all their sins; lay it all on me." I have been dealing with my wife's adultery the last couple of months, and I've been struggling with the crushing weight of her betrayal. In meditating on this song the last couple of days, it's moved me to lay her sin at the feet of Jesus for her for the purpose of seeking her salvation and freeing myself from its burden. Great analysis, Pastor Rob!
You guys should listen to blackbird by alter bridge
Rob: I'm a bad dad
Gauge: Yeah you are
*nervous laughter*
But in all seriousness, thank you for teaching the theology behind the lyrics. It's becoming more and more sparse for a band to nail theology in their songs and this was a joy to watch.
God Bless!
great video pastor Rob. What really hit me and pushed me into accepting Jesus as my savior was long ago when I read about the penitent thief. The thief acknowledging his sins and crimes while saying that Jesus had done nothing criminal. "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom" He replies "Amen I say to you today you will be with me in paradise". I've always gotten goosebumps hearing that. Praise Jesus, we serve a loving God.
That song literally brought me to tears. Thank you and God bless you for sharing
Great video guys, really on a roll here! May I make a suggestion? Fit for a King - Price of Agony. I just saw them live < a week ago, and they were AMAZING. I really think you'd like the message in this song as well. Keep up the great videos!
Please react to Impending Doom!!!! One of my all time favorite Christian bands! 🤘🤘🤘
Please please please do more WATG. They are criminally underrated, scripturally sound, and ultra talented! My favorite band with a Christian message and it isn’t close! Their new album “Eulogies” is an absolute banger and any track on there is worth a reaction!
Thanks for motivation! Requesting one more time, please, do Disturbed - Inside the Fire or Dream Theater - In the Name of God?
I see them all. Just impossible to do them all and maintain the quality.
"Hush Yael" by Oh, Sleeper but with googling lyrical analyses because it's rlly deep. Also "Basic Hate" by Wage War, it speaks of and denounces the acts of the WBC from a Christian stand-point and nobody's reacted to ittt! Pretty plzzz you guys are da besttttt!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😱
Please react to Oh Sleeper - Hush Yael. Will give you goosebumps, my fav song of all time. Keep up the good content pastor!
OMG YESSS I LOVE OH SLEEPER
This song was HEAVY with scripture foundation and gave me major goosebumps...
this music is real worship for me, it made me cry again watching this, thanks for the song W>A>T>G and loved to see fellow brothers feeling the same feelings i feld at this song
Hey pastor Rob!
I’m from Brazil and i’m very happy with your explanations. All this bands were part of my youth, not only gave me strengh and peace in rough times, but got me closer to Him.
I like to recomend the listen and study of these guys.
“Close your eyes - Valleys”
“A plea for purging - the heart of a child”
“Oh sleeper - means to believe”
Thanks! Hugs !
Reacting to the Storm The Gates Of Hell album by Demonhunter? because that is where it's at.
The song "Fading Away" from that album is what introduced me to Demon Hunter. Great album
My first mosh pit was Demon hunter and during that album.
Love the Storm the Gates of Hell album.
Could I request Duality by Slipknot or more Slipknot videos or Korn
vermillion pt2 with video
Oh, Sleeper (Titan Ep) Heavy Hands or The Rise or pick any song from any of their albums!! Family Ruins is a good song from them too! I believe they are Christian but they are extremely talented both musically and lyrically
You like this song check out the bird and the snake it's an amazing song from wolves at the gate
brilliant instruments and songwriting. thanks for the great explanation guys. God bless
Never heard of this but pretty awesome song! I enjoy songs that go from soft to hardcore. It just shows how great a person's vocals can be. And finally please react to Stryper to hell with the devil. Great 80s Christian metal band and still make albums to this day. Thanks and awesome video.
I found your channel through this, and I love it! Wolves at the Gate is my favorite band in the world, and I’d love it if you reacted to another song by them, called Hindsight. It’s absolutely phenomenal
First! Please do God Hates us by Avenged Sevenfold.
Wow! You even beat me to my own video!
@@roberthoughton7127 Haha! I love your videos. Please keep it going brother.
Our brothers are growing
Oh yeah yeah
Oh yeah yeah
I would love it if you guys would do the Finisher by Oh, Sleeper.
That would be cool.
great video, one of my favourite song of the band; never thought of the reversed roles there and it's indeed true, it was biblically God's (father) will; but then again, we cannot fathom how this "desicion" of Jesus dying for humanity was made, neither totally wrap our heads around the Holy Trinity and how they interact between them, so in my opinion the song it's just another way to recreate how this beatiful act of grace may had happened (or mostly may not due your points stated), putting the Father in the "wrath/justice" side and the Son in the "love/grace" side of the conversation.
"the song it's just another way to recreate how this beatiful act of grace may had happened"
I totally agree with you here. Now I kind of wish I would have prefaced the discussion with a similar statement.
Yeah it definitely makes it more understandable. And having in some of the same classes as them at Cedarville (especially Christian Life and Thought and Spiritual Formation) I can definitely see where they switched a few things up (without destroying the theology altogether) to make a little simpler and tell a better story.
"The Bird and the Snake" by wolves at the gate. The song is slow at first and the music video is amazing. It will leave you in tears
I think that Wolves at the Gate is one of the few metal bands that started as Christian and have maintained that aspect consistently. Many of the bands have decreased their output of God and Jesus focused material, but Wolves at the Gate just keeps going. I love it.
P.S. I loved watching you get into this song. It reminds me so much of my own father.
"Jenny" by Nothing more
Dead man is also another good song by wolves at the gate
Really, anything by them would be good
War In The Time Of Peace is my favorite Wolves At The Gate song.
that would be such a great song to analyze. Amazing song and incredible allegory.
guys you need to react to parkway drive - wishing wells
Here ya go th-cam.com/video/kTOLiOH24RA/w-d-xo.html
Pastor is funny. His little movements and that "amen" made me smile big and laugh.
Highly recommend checking out the band “For Today.” I’ve seen them at a few shows they actually preach a bit in between each song.
I've never felt God so strong while listening to metal!! Wow!!! This is beautiful!!! I'm full of goosebumps.
You guys should review their new album (Wolves at the Gate: Eclipse: song A Voice in the Violence) and also The Finisher by Oh Sleeper
I was waiting for this one! Perfect Easter song that gives me goosebumps every time I hear it.
Same.
LC3 - Preach It.
Christian rapper (Beleve that he is a preacher but i am not sure). He has about 600 subscribers on youtube, found him randomly browsing.
Me as a non beleaver and a metall head loves this guy, give him a listen, and feature him on the chanel if you want.
love from sweden
Do a review to the song...Ill Mind 7 by Hopsin
This is one of my favorite bands! Their message is pure scripture and gospel through and through and honestly, this is my worship music.
If you want to know more about Wolves At The Gate please listen to Man of Sorrows. It's a powerful song.
I saw them in 2014, they spent half their set sharing testimonials and preaching it was great
Break the Cycle by For Today
Love your channel and enjoyed every video. Keep up the good work.
Could I request you react to Ghost - Life Eternal or Ghost - Witch Image please?
Yall need to react to some ghost, like pinnacle to the pit or faith. I really wanna know you guys' thoughts on the band, they claim to not be a satanic band but give a very weird view point to their songs and their meanings.
I am a fat atheist but this insight was super interesting and I learned a lot :) Good band too
I fell in love with this band because of their deep theological lyrics. Great video! It shows that there are still bands out there that are preaching the gospel! Amen!
I actually went to the same college as these guys. And I can definitely say that their sound theology was shaped by their time at Cedarville. Sadly i didn't actually go to school with them, but when I was there had just broken onto the scene. Pride and joy of Cedarville University
Thank yah, love these guys and how they stand out for God and Jesus and dah dah dah saved me from going down a dark path, thank you guys for doing this song!!
+Chad Martinez 🙏🏻🙏🏻
For anyone interested, this song is based on a work from John Flavel, a 17th century clergyman.
The Works of John Flavel, Vol.1, "A Display of Christ in His Essential and Mediatorial Glory", 42 Sermons, Sermon Number 3:
"Here you may suppose the Father to say when driving His bargain with Christ for you.
The Father speaks. "My Son, here is a company of poor, miserable souls that have utterly undone themselves and now lay open to my justice. Justice demands satisfaction for them, or will satisfy itself in the eternal ruin of them."
The Son responds. "Oh my Father. Such is my love to and pity for them, that rather than they shall perish eternally I will be responsible for them as their guarantee. Bring in all thy bills, that I may see what they owe thee. Bring them all in, that there be no after-reckonings with them. At my hands shall thou require it. I would rather choose to suffer the wrath that is theirs then they should suffer it. Upon me, my Father, upon me be all their debt."
The Father responds. "But my Son, if thou undertake for them, thou must reckon to pay the last mite. Expect no abatement. Son, if I spare them... I will not spare you."
The Son responds. "Content Father. Let it be so. Charge it all upon me. I am able to discharge it. And though it prove a kind of undoing to me, though it impoverish all my riches, empty all my treasures... I am content to take it.""
Good stuff. Metal that can help guide you. If you let it. I’m glad you appreciate the song and can understand that you need to correct the theological problems but at the same time praise it for being uplifting
The "Rambo" movies as they're sometimes referred to, in order are First Blood, First Blood Part 2: Rambo, and Rambo 3. Pretty solid films.
WATG are among the most talented artists. I listen to them daily. It's nice to have a Christian hard core vand
Well, neat, I found a new band I hadn’t known about. So thank you for that, and thank the persistent fella who asked you to react. Cool song.
Apocalyptica- I’m not Jesus
I’ll keep requesting hoping that you will get it in.
The song made me cry because as of late God is revealing himself to me. Your channel is part of that revelation. I struggle with something I wonder if you can speak to. If God knew humans would ultimately screw up why create us in the first place? Thanks you guys, much love.
THANK YOU FOR COVERING WOLVES AT THE GATE! this is a dream come true ! Plenty of songs in their albums worth reacting to :)