I tied on a Dyna-King barracuda for 12-14 years and went through more the 1 pair of jaws. On big hooks I’ve experienced more slippage on it than my current vises. Have the Renzetti master and the Regal revolution, both have advantages. For holding power on big hooks I love the Regal with the Big game head and Monster head. I use my Renzetti more with trout sz flies and love it. I think I paid $10 for my first vise , which was a Universal from Herters in 60’s and tied many flies on it ! Over the years had them all and everyone has personal preferences as to their style of tying.
I have both and prefer the regal. I love the spring loaded jaws. So fast and easy. Traveler is great too esp for the price but I find I don’t miss the rotary function much.
I purchased my Renzetti Traveler back in 1997 for about $130 and it still works perfectly. It's the only real vice I've ever owned so cannot compare to anything else.
I have the Regal Revolution and the Renzetti Traveler. To get the regal revolution to rotate on the same plane just set it at a 90 degree angle to the stem and you will be very close to true rotation. I bought the extended stem for more room under the vise, thinking I could hang a bobbin better, but I found I didn't really need it. I favor the Regal because of the simplicity of the design. You set the angle you want the head at, the tension you like in the rotation, squeeze, place hook, tie. Nothing comes loose, nothing needs to be tweaked, it just works all the time. It also feels bomb proof just solid construction.
Yes, you can get very true rotation at the 90 degree angle but you lose a fair bit of your usable "tying area" if it's not canted.... Not a huge deal for some people of course. Both are excellent vises!
I have tied on both and I like my Renzetti the best. Primarily because it is a true rotary and it makes wrapping materials and working around the fly so much easier and convenient. But, like you guys mentioned, it comes down to personal preference. Both are high quality vises. One other vise to note that is high quality is the HMH vise line.
I bought a Renzetti Traveler's Vise about 12 years ago and it's still kicking. Never had to replace a single part. At the time I bought it from a local Orvis shop for $159.
Great vises. Love the regal. My wife ties on it now. As i switch to a norvise. Love that one above all. Great video and greetings from the netherlands.
john wagtho love my norvise too! Have been thinking about switching it up to gain more clearance for 22 and smaller hooks. The standard jaw holds them just looking for more clearance, maybe their small jaws are in order
i`m on the hunt for a new vise as the old one i used finally gave up i had it since 1980 and it was a used one when i got it what ever one i buy must be of good/great quality
I like having the ability to rest my hand on the Regal. The renzeti has more clearance for the larger flys but the it can be awkward in inverted position. I have the regal and the renzetti saltwater.
Outstanding presenters, great video, taylor exact to where I find myself right now...Regal or Renzetti. I do a lot of research before I purchase any product but at the end when it comes to solid brands like Shimano, Daiwa, Owner hooks, etc, is a matter of personal preference. I had my eyes on the Traveler Saltwater, however, I was holding back because the limitation of tying small hooks. I am glad I watched this video because it clarifies that I will be able to tie small hooks as well. Again, thank you the presenters, very knowledgeable and professional.
Great informative video. Thank you for your hard work and all the time you all spend curtis, cheech and lance doing these videos. I appreciate you giving a price point for the renzetti master. I have watched other tiers with this vise for a while and have really wanted one, but I have never been able to get anyone to give me a price. I have a traveler that I have tied on for 12 years and love it, but I would love to upgrade to a master and keep the traveler as a back up for when I do shows.
I know this is way late but I loved my peak rotary vise. It never let me down, that being said I just purchased a regal revolution for the simplicity and the style of the vise. I love the design and I'll ss head gives you 2/0 to size 32 I'll never tie in that large of range. Both renzetti and regal are top notch though.
My first vise was a Renzetti Traveler. Good vise. However, after about 3 years, the tension screw kept coming out after tying 1-2 flies. I am a right hand tyer and when I placed my left hand on the vise to help hold materials, the left side of my left palm would literally unscrew the tension knob..every time....I got tired of that real quick plus I am not a fan of plastic screws. I now have a Regal Revolution and I like it. But using it as a true rotary vise makes it difficult to place materials as your usable tying space becomes a bit smaller. But man is it built like a tank, super smooth, brass screws...no O rings, no adjustment screws, or anything to replace...just squeeze, place hook and tie. Love it!
Loving the outtakes! I have a late 90s era Traveler. I love it. It was my first big boy vise. I may end up with a saltwater, though. I like the bigger size. If we were to go to the shop, would you allow us to try a few out? Just in terms of hook placement and ease of use?
Interested to hear from any women using the Regal and/or Renzetti(s). I have only seen reviews done by men with hands very much larger than mine.... so, to my question: Does hand size make any difference when selecting a vice.
All Regal vises are shipped as right-handed. Making the vise left-handed is a very simple procedure and only takes a few minutes. On the under side of the vise you will see a hex nut in the ball that holds the jaw handles in place. Simply loosen the nut with a 7/64’’ hex wrench and swing the jaw handle to the other side. Tighten the hex nut and you are ready to tie from the left-hand position.
I was a machinist and a spring maker before I became an electronic Tech and have serious sticker shock for a fly vice that costs $700! That is simply stunning to me. Compare that to a bushmaster 16” heavy barreled AR15 for $850. It’s like saying here is a single geared bike that costs $45,000 or you can get this Toyota Tacoma 4x4 for $46,000. It just boggles my head that anything like a similar amount of machine work, Material or expertise goes into it.i get you might only buy one ever, but just saying even to use it to sell flies off of its way, way off the chart.
Yeah, lots of things are more expensive than we'd expect, 100% agreed! But given that, I'd probably pay double or triple for it -- given how much I use a good vise and how much I enjoy tying. To each his own I guess... Thanks for your comment!
Fly Fish Food I understand totally. I hope I didn’t seem insulting, it’s just an awful lot for me and as a tech having the best tools does make a difference for certain.
FlyFishNC Not long ago I got one of the tool boxes and I love them, very well made and well thought out! I’ve been think about one of the vices as they also seem so well thought out as well, I just never hear anyone talking about them!
A friend of mine bought one a few years ago and sent it back. It wasn't finished off as well as it should have been for the high dollar price. Maybe he somehow got a lemon.
I have both and the only thing I like the Regal over the Renzetti is that when I crank down to get a tight wrap is that that Renzetti will move due to the base being light. That is my only complaint about it. I’ve gotten to where I don’t use the rotary function anymore. My flies get a better and tighter wrap of the materials. I love both vises but the Regal is slightly better for me and my style. That’s what it comes down too for me. What is better suited for my style.
Great info guys. Its always easier when I can send the fly curious guy to a TH-cam video to help them understand how to get started. I see u got lance some phone books to sit on 👍
I started with a Renzetti Traveler, then I switched to a Regal Medallion with the stainless steel jaws. I prefer the hook holding power and simplicity of the Regal.
The one thing I hate about my Master is the dumb material clip. The plastic screw never keeps tension making the clip useless. Otherwise, perfect vise.
@@Jesse-cy7ws not sure what servicing a quality made vise requires - in 40 yrs of tying on a variety of different manufacturers vises - I’ve never needed servicing on one - but you have to get what works for you
@@MaxMeridius0920 I guess by servicing, I mean follow up. Bought a Stonfo vise which, after 2 years of use, no longer holds the #4 streamer hook without moving. Called the rep who said too bad. Called Stonfo and they have said too bad. You'd think they would try to make it right by sending out a new set of jaws.
Can't see the vices for the big fancy audio junk. Proper tools for the job. Think cane poles for fly fishing or sage $1000 Rods for dunking worms for bullheads.
I will also say, I just can’t see how the extra money justifies moving up in the Renzetti line. The traveler will do everything you need to do for hundreds less than they’re more expensive models.
@@stevemd8947 It's just the truth from my experience. Bought the Excalibur, then in frustration and desperation - the midge jaws. In the end, my hole was over 500 bucks deep. That's some expensive garbage.
Steve D I have a Prince and wouldn't trade it for the world. I've been through a Traveler, a Thompson and an HMH and the Prince is by far my favorite. I tie 20's through salt and the Dyna has been a stalwart.
I have a peak and two regals, I tie from size 2 -28 hooks . The regals hold them all with ease . The jaws on the peak warped within a couple of hundred flies. You can keep the peak.
Say, guys how about showing some prices? I know cost has probably gone up since you made this video. But give us an idea what they used to cost back in the day
I tied on a Dyna-King barracuda for 12-14 years and went through more the 1 pair of jaws. On big hooks I’ve experienced more slippage on it than my current vises. Have the Renzetti master and the Regal revolution, both have advantages. For holding power on big hooks I love the Regal with the Big game head and Monster head. I use my Renzetti more with trout sz flies and love it. I think I paid $10 for my first vise , which was a Universal from Herters in 60’s and tied many flies on it ! Over the years had them all and everyone has personal preferences as to their style of tying.
I have both and prefer the regal. I love the spring loaded jaws. So fast and easy. Traveler is great too esp for the price but I find I don’t miss the rotary function much.
Where I live the Traveller 2300 is more expensive than a Regal with the bronze pocket base.
I purchased my Renzetti Traveler back in 1997 for about $130 and it still works perfectly. It's the only real vice I've ever owned so cannot compare to anything else.
I have the Regal Revolution and the Renzetti Traveler. To get the regal revolution to rotate on the same plane just set it at a 90 degree angle to the stem and you will be very close to true rotation. I bought the extended stem for more room under the vise, thinking I could hang a bobbin better, but I found I didn't really need it. I favor the Regal because of the simplicity of the design. You set the angle you want the head at, the tension you like in the rotation, squeeze, place hook, tie. Nothing comes loose, nothing needs to be tweaked, it just works all the time. It also feels bomb proof just solid construction.
Yes, you can get very true rotation at the 90 degree angle but you lose a fair bit of your usable "tying area" if it's not canted.... Not a huge deal for some people of course. Both are excellent vises!
@@FlyFishFood how so please? Can you explain to me?
I have tied on both and I like my Renzetti the best. Primarily because it is a true rotary and it makes wrapping materials and working around the fly so much easier and convenient. But, like you guys mentioned, it comes down to personal preference. Both are high quality vises. One other vise to note that is high quality is the HMH vise line.
I bought a Renzetti Traveler's Vise about 12 years ago and it's still kicking. Never had to replace a single part. At the time I bought it from a local Orvis shop for $159.
great vid, i got my traveler 2000 from you guys, I love it. Feels heavy duty in the right spots
Great vises. Love the regal. My wife ties on it now. As i switch to a norvise. Love that one above all.
Great video and greetings from the netherlands.
john wagtho love my norvise too! Have been thinking about switching it up to gain more clearance for 22 and smaller hooks. The standard jaw holds them just looking for more clearance, maybe their small jaws are in order
@@jedicazador There are 2 pointed jaw options that both work well.
Nice job, gentlemen. I'll have to peruse the channel to see if there are any other side by side comparisons from other manufacturers.
i`m on the hunt for a new vise as the old one i used finally gave up i had it since 1980 and it was a used one when i got it what ever one i buy must be of good/great quality
Norvise
I like having the ability to rest my hand on the Regal. The renzeti has more clearance for the larger flys but the it can be awkward in inverted position. I have the regal and the renzetti saltwater.
If you’re right handed, do you recommend a RH or LH Vice?
Thoughts on the Stonfo Transformer??
I just bought the Renzetti Traveller 2300 and it’s my favourite overall.
I didn’t see vice grips in there
btw.....curtis....the video quality on this one is phenomenal. Surely you upgraded something and I give you the nerdy seal of approval.
Joel Domen Thanks!! trying to dial it in every day!
Outstanding presenters, great video, taylor exact to where I find myself right now...Regal or Renzetti. I do a lot of research before I purchase any product but at the end when it comes to solid brands like Shimano, Daiwa, Owner hooks, etc, is a matter of personal preference. I had my eyes on the Traveler Saltwater, however, I was holding back because the limitation of tying small hooks. I am glad I watched this video because it clarifies that I will be able to tie small hooks as well. Again, thank you the presenters, very knowledgeable and professional.
Thanks for the reply!! Glad the video cleared that up for you.
Do a program on lights and magnifiers. Don't see anything out there on this.
Great informative video. Thank you for your hard work and all the time you all spend curtis, cheech and lance doing these videos. I appreciate you giving a price point for the renzetti master. I have watched other tiers with this vise for a while and have really wanted one, but I have never been able to get anyone to give me a price. I have a traveler that I have tied on for 12 years and love it, but I would love to upgrade to a master and keep the traveler as a back up for when I do shows.
I know this is way late but I loved my peak rotary vise. It never let me down, that being said I just purchased a regal revolution for the simplicity and the style of the vise. I love the design and I'll ss head gives you 2/0 to size 32 I'll never tie in that large of range. Both renzetti and regal are top notch though.
Can you but a tube fly attachment into them vices
My first vise was a Renzetti Traveler. Good vise. However, after about 3 years, the tension screw kept coming out after tying 1-2 flies. I am a right hand tyer and when I placed my left hand on the vise to help hold materials, the left side of my left palm would literally unscrew the tension knob..every time....I got tired of that real quick plus I am not a fan of plastic screws. I now have a Regal Revolution and I like it. But using it as a true rotary vise makes it difficult to place materials as your usable tying space becomes a bit smaller. But man is it built like a tank, super smooth, brass screws...no O rings, no adjustment screws, or anything to replace...just squeeze, place hook and tie. Love it!
Loving the outtakes!
I have a late 90s era Traveler. I love it. It was my first big boy vise. I may end up with a saltwater, though. I like the bigger size. If we were to go to the shop, would you allow us to try a few out? Just in terms of hook placement and ease of use?
What u think is the best rotary vise for under 150 with stand?? Please help thanks
Interested to hear from any women using the Regal and/or Renzetti(s). I have only seen reviews done by men with hands very much larger than mine.... so, to my question: Does hand size make any difference when selecting a vice.
Do they do a left handed version on the Regal. Lefties end up with the lever facing them and its ok but not the best.
All Regal vises are shipped as right-handed. Making the vise left-handed is a very simple procedure and only takes a few minutes. On the under side of the vise you will see a hex nut in the ball that holds the jaw handles in place. Simply loosen the nut with a 7/64’’ hex wrench and swing the jaw handle to the other side. Tighten the hex nut and you are ready to tie from the left-hand position.
I was a machinist and a spring maker before I became an electronic Tech and have serious sticker shock for a fly vice that costs $700! That is simply stunning to me. Compare that to a bushmaster 16” heavy barreled AR15 for $850. It’s like saying here is a single geared bike that costs $45,000 or you can get this Toyota Tacoma 4x4 for $46,000. It just boggles my head that anything like a similar amount of machine work, Material or expertise goes into it.i get you might only buy one ever, but just saying even to use it to sell flies off of its way, way off the chart.
Yeah, lots of things are more expensive than we'd expect, 100% agreed! But given that, I'd probably pay double or triple for it -- given how much I use a good vise and how much I enjoy tying. To each his own I guess... Thanks for your comment!
Fly Fish Food I understand totally. I hope I didn’t seem insulting, it’s just an awful lot for me and as a tech having the best tools does make a difference for certain.
Is that a gun? We are not familiar with them in OZ
Love my regal
Out of interest, what are people’s thoughts on Marc Petitjean vices and tools?
Tom never used but heard good things
FlyFishNC Not long ago I got one of the tool boxes and I love them, very well made and well thought out! I’ve been think about one of the vices as they also seem so well thought out as well, I just never hear anyone talking about them!
A friend of mine bought one a few years ago and sent it back. It wasn't finished off as well as it should have been for the high dollar price. Maybe he somehow got a lemon.
Marc Petitjean tools are the best. I have never seen the vise.
They also sell different stem lengths.
Something wrong with DynaKing?
As they say, the vise that you tye a fly on that catches your first fish is the one. Renzetti was mine.
cmac the first vise I had was my fingers and tied all my flies truly by “hand”
Nice review, have always used the Regal going to stick with it, have tied on renzetti also great vise. Out west nothing smaller than #22 is needed
I have both and the only thing I like the Regal over the Renzetti is that when I crank down to get a tight wrap is that that Renzetti will move due to the base being light. That is my only complaint about it. I’ve gotten to where I don’t use the rotary function anymore. My flies get a better and tighter wrap of the materials. I love both vises but the Regal is slightly better for me and my style. That’s what it comes down too for me. What is better suited for my style.
Can you comfortably tie a #32 on the Renzetti saltwater?
Claire Abbot absolutely.
Dang son 32 impressive
I have a Regal style vise, but mine was $40
Can you confirm that the Saltwater Traveller can tie flies from #32 to 9/0 as stated at 12:33.
100% true
Great info guys. Its always easier when I can send the fly curious guy to a TH-cam video to help them understand how to get started. I see u got lance some phone books to sit on 👍
Great review but the mics are distracting. Tech overkill. Crop closer too.
Good Ad-vise
I started with a Renzetti Traveler, then I switched to a Regal Medallion with the stainless steel jaws. I prefer the hook holding power and simplicity of the Regal.
Is it safe to say that the renzetti master has the ability to fit a more wide range of hook sizes than the regal revolution
Yup. Regal is about size 22 to size 2. Master is 30 to 8/0.
I have two favorites : 1. LAW Bench Vice 2. JVICE from Jay Smit. Kind regards from The Netherlands
The one thing I hate about my Master is the dumb material clip. The plastic screw never keeps tension making the clip useless. Otherwise, perfect vise.
Take the screw out and lightly smash the threads with needle nose pliers. Just a little bit. This helps with a tighter fit when you screw or back in.
I would shrink the background a smidge. Looks "off".
Always enjoy your videos, thanks - I’m currently tying with a Stonfo - comes complete for standard to tube flies - easily compares to Renzetti quality
Stonfo neither stands behind their product, nor do they service them.
@@Jesse-cy7ws not sure what servicing a quality made vise requires - in 40 yrs of tying on a variety of different manufacturers vises - I’ve never needed servicing on one - but you have to get what works for you
@@MaxMeridius0920 I guess by servicing, I mean follow up. Bought a Stonfo vise which, after 2 years of use, no longer holds the #4 streamer hook without moving. Called the rep who said too bad. Called Stonfo and they have said too bad. You'd think they would try to make it right by sending out a new set of jaws.
i thing the best vise ever made is the speed-vise made in germany by maier a. fazis . it will hold any hook. .....cheers,, h.f. canada
Hi
Regal!
The PEAK! Peak nation
Renzetti
RENZETTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!
th-cam.com/video/RuVlu-3EEqY/w-d-xo.html
Can't see the vices for the big fancy audio junk. Proper tools for the job. Think cane poles for fly fishing or sage $1000 Rods for dunking worms for bullheads.
Regal
Dyna king
Dyna King Baracuda
I will also say, I just can’t see how the extra money justifies moving up in the Renzetti line. The traveler will do everything you need to do for hundreds less than they’re more expensive models.
I guess if you can afford it, do it.
I guess if you can afford it, do it.
Renzetti traveller 2304. No regerts and worth every dime.
Renzetti traveler will allow you to tie just about anything
Welp, Dyna King. That's your answer.
7wt we have several paper weights already!! ;)
For #6 hooks and larger, OK. Anything smaller - stay away from Dyna-King.
D W I agree 100%.
@@stevemd8947 It's just the truth from my experience. Bought the Excalibur, then in frustration and desperation - the midge jaws. In the end, my hole was over 500 bucks deep. That's some expensive garbage.
Steve D I have a Prince and wouldn't trade it for the world. I've been through a Traveler, a Thompson and an HMH and the Prince is by far my favorite. I tie 20's through salt and the Dyna has been a stalwart.
Peak obviously 🤔
FlyFishNC it’s decent.
Fly Fish Food thanks for noticing lil ol me. Now do me a favor and give my latest video a watch. 🤙
I have a peak and two regals, I tie from size 2 -28 hooks . The regals hold them all with ease . The jaws on the peak warped within a couple of hundred flies. You can keep the peak.
Peak nation!
There is no Regal or Renzetti.... the best worldwide vise is the Petijan one with no doubt....!
When Man U and Arsenal face off, can Chelsea win? Or is it just a contest between two teams?
Peak hands down.
Russell Lieser you ever tied on a Renzetti or regal?
@@FlyFishFood regal yes. Held a renzetti it felt cheap.
@@FlyFishFood regal are just over priced.
Russell Lieser for me it’s all about hook holding power. Renzetti has it dialed.
@flyfishfood I don’t tie as much as you guys, but I’ve never had an issue with Peak holding power
LAW vice over everything else but then again renzetti over regal
Store advertorial for both brand - all BS!
You don’t need fancy vise just use a locking pliers $4. 🤣
You can also walk to work instead of driving.
Good vid ,but lose the mics. They look ridiculous. Try a lapel mic
Like watching you clowns!
get what you pay for
I love my Stonfo Elite!
Non, Marc Petitjean
Say, guys how about showing some prices? I know cost has probably gone up since you made this video. But give us an idea what they used to cost back in the day
Dyna king
Wish I could afford one. Great vises The Renzetti was the one I could afford and it is a quality vise
Renzetti