Xorg didn't exist until 2003, and is the continuation of XFree86. XFree86 was an PC implementation of X11 and the continuation of X386. It wasn't really competing with anything at the time, and most certainly not with Xorg. The X Consortium (earlier the MIT X Consortium) were the main managers of X11, but their implementation was not for X86 systems. XFree86 ended up replacing this, and become Xorg, which is an interesting story in its own right. But that was much later than 1997.
OK, let me rephrase: there were two competing X11 implementations on BSD, and this is concerning one of them and not the other, and I am referring to package names. The historical details are something fascinating which people may care about that trace things to W and the Andrew Project, and in this regard, thank you for the clarification, but I just wanted to show how one can get an ugly well-known Unix GUI. 😆
TWM I think needs a mouse. I was raised by savages so I use NetBSD and MS-DOS on my really old PC's. It is nice to see how the other half lives and watch the struggles. Best Wishes!
*Mysteriously whispering* - You can already get a 486, just, beware that it is a machine whose BIOS is not nailed to the harddisk ( = NOT Compaq) and that it is one that offers control over Cylinders, Heads and Sectors of a harddrive ( = beware of a lot of old Acers and HPs). But if you should have such a machine, the coming videos will offer a lot of … "ideas". ;) I am warming up here to an OS roller-coaster… ☺️
"For good", this time it’s not coming back from the dead. But expect some neat ideas that are working beyond the Pocket 386 - as long as you can specify disk geometry… 😉
3:30 why does it have two shortcuts assigned to 6 and nothing for 7... also, I thought my brain had garbage collected all the late 1990s memories of trying to debug the xf86 configs, but now the pain is coming back...
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Xorg didn't exist until 2003, and is the continuation of XFree86. XFree86 was an PC implementation of X11 and the continuation of X386. It wasn't really competing with anything at the time, and most certainly not with Xorg. The X Consortium (earlier the MIT X Consortium) were the main managers of X11, but their implementation was not for X86 systems. XFree86 ended up replacing this, and become Xorg, which is an interesting story in its own right. But that was much later than 1997.
OK, let me rephrase: there were two competing X11 implementations on BSD, and this is concerning one of them and not the other, and I am referring to package names. The historical details are something fascinating which people may care about that trace things to W and the Andrew Project, and in this regard, thank you for the clarification, but I just wanted to show how one can get an ugly well-known Unix GUI. 😆
@@ninoivanov Not on FreeBSD. That only had XFree86. And calling early X ugly is a sin. :)
@@lazyhominidI have remembered FreeBSD 6.0, where they competed - see section 5.3 in its Handbook, but yes, you were right, that was later.
TWM I think needs a mouse. I was raised by savages so I use NetBSD and MS-DOS on my really old PC's. It is nice to see how the other half lives and watch the struggles. Best Wishes!
… Someone with "VAX" in the handle might as well have further fascinating secrets, I suspect… 😉
It absolutely does. However it is so configurable, that you could probably set it up to be usable with only a keyboard if you really wanted to.
If they made a 486 version with say 256 MB RAM, and the break-out boards with ports, I’d have to buy one 😂
*Mysteriously whispering* - You can already get a 486, just, beware that it is a machine whose BIOS is not nailed to the harddisk ( = NOT Compaq) and that it is one that offers control over Cylinders, Heads and Sectors of a harddrive ( = beware of a lot of old Acers and HPs). But if you should have such a machine, the coming videos will offer a lot of … "ideas". ;) I am warming up here to an OS roller-coaster… ☺️
So your Pocket386 is still a dead parrot?
"For good", this time it’s not coming back from the dead. But expect some neat ideas that are working beyond the Pocket 386 - as long as you can specify disk geometry… 😉
top video - please get another microphone!
I did, in fact… next one will be clearer! :)
3:30 why does it have two shortcuts assigned to 6 and nothing for 7... also, I thought my brain had garbage collected all the late 1990s memories of trying to debug the xf86 configs, but now the pain is coming back...