I'd love to know what you think about the EVA1 after watching this? Also, do check out my V-log colour grading tutorial series - th-cam.com/video/g8gtbsJLIAY/w-d-xo.html
i adore this camera. the ONLY reason i got rid of it - and I have missed it ever since - was because the autofocus was so bad on their DSLRS which served as my b-cameras. i pretty much hon through every camera - FX3, FX6, Komodo, Canon 500ii, and even Venice… none have given me the simple joy of such a rich and cinematic image as the EVA-1. crappy monitor and all. Besides the Alexa Mini, it is my absolute favorite camera. But now- the new S5II all my previous probs are somber. And right after watching this most excellent review- really the best one for this camera ever made- i just ordered it again. I’m going back with my army of amazing canon EF primes. I just loved the feeling i got shooting the footage. all your footage just reminded me of how much i miss that camera. Thanks and cheers mate! subscribed!!!
Thanks so much for the sub!! And for sharing your EVA1 passion - it's so nice to hear how many people love this camera! Did you prefer the EVA1 even over the Venice? That's super interesting!
Nice - well done - yes I've had this before and people are always impressed with what it can capture. Often the client just associates the Alexa as being the gold standard and anything else is a compromise. What sort of thing were you shooting?
I have been a Panasonic user for almost 15 years from DVX100B to HPX500E and HPX371E and I have just started upgrading to EVA1 (we just acquired three) thanks for the Media Division's detailed review. The joy I get from this model just from testing is unquantifiable, I can't wait to start using it for projects. HPX500 and HPX371 still hold very well till this day though.
Great video! I'm a year late but even compared to the more recent Lumix releases, this looks like a great accompaniment to my S5 and GH4 cameras haha! Thanks again!
The video I have been needing to see lol. Well done man! I want to switch to EVA1s and S5s/S1h setups and blackmagic b raw recorders. This video really helps!
Thanks for the reality check. I'm fond of my EVA1, and think it will be with me for a couple more years. The only drawbacks for me are (1) the horrid "mirror" screen and (2) clients have never heard of it. The screen is an easy fix (get a monitor), but the lack of model recognition with clients is unfortunate. No one has every complained about my footage image quality, but I'm sure I've been passed over for not owning a RED or ARRI camera. I also have the S1H, which pairs very well with the EVA1. I bought it to have a smaller, lighter camera for gimbal work, the ability to take still images, serve as a B-camera for 2 camera shoots and the "full frame look". The two cameras are easy to grade as they both have the full V-log color space. I owned a Sony FS5, and never quite liked color grading S-log footage. For a camera that is pushing 5 years old, I think the EVA1 is still a viable camera. I will invest in a new set of cine primes before I invest in another camera.
Thanks for watching! Yeah I shot on a rental FS5 for about a year before getting the EVA1 - never loved the image and could never cajole it in the way I can with the EVA1. When I purchased the EVA1 the camera sales person tried to convince be to purchase the S1 but i'm glad I stuck with the EVA1 as I prefer the form factor. The image from the S1h is phenomenal too. If I could have afforded one as my b-cam I'd have opted for that, but I do love my little S5. People have often commented on the quality of EVA1 footage and asked me what it was shot on - they're always surprised when they hear it's an older Panasonic camera!
Yes agreed about investing in glass rather than new body. Ability to do 5.7K Braw is still really impressive despite less features than current cameras. I have a pair of EVA's and am up for a doc shooting A list talent - no one asked which cameras I'm using because they know my directorial eye and can see my appropriate DP skills. I'm planning a crime feature using my 2 EVA's and may not even shoot raw. I just purchased Neat Video, for a problematic shot, so I know I can clean up any issue of EVA noise without loosing sharpness. Holding onto the EVA for 2-4 more years means when it's time to upgrade, it should be a significant rather than incremental upgrade, or we'll be able to get todays latest cameras at very good prices.
EVA1 owner/operator here. I love this camera. I got the PL mount and use DZO Pictor Zooms. I think it still holds up to cameras on the market now. The only thing I really wish it had is automatic ND digital filters. If Panasonic ever releases an upgrade to this camera, I'll get it in a heartbeat.
It's difficult to say a cam is "better" the EVA1 is obviously much older and lacks some of the features of the FX6. They're diff sensor sizes, Super 35 Vs full frame and the EVA1 can be picked up for a fraction of the price of an FX6. The diff in picture quality is not worlds apart, if you have the cash go for the FX6, if you want a bit more for your money go for the EVA1.
An absolutely fantastic review of the EVA. I 2nd every single point you've brought up. I've had the EVA since early 2020 and I've never been able to come close to the images you have produced, just for this video. Needless to say, I'm going to be diving deep into your DaVinci videos for correction and grading.
Thanks James!! Yeah was nice looking back at all the old projects, even back when I didn't know what I was doing with colour grading, the footage from the EVA1 never really needed too much work. I'll have some more v-log grading tutorials coming soon
I've had mine for 5 years, and it's never let me down. I have a film project that I shot with it winning awards all over the world. The only thing that really upsets me is that the line was never developed further. I used it alongside a Red Mostramo on a film, and felt the EVA outshot the Red. Yes no autofocus, and the screen drive me NUTS. But no camera is perfect.
Hopefully this new interest in Lumix will spark Panasonic to update all of these lines. There’s no reason an EVA2 wouldn’t be able to contend with the likes of the FX6 or the rumoured C200 mark 2. Personally I can only afford an S5… but I would love a future where I can upgrade though the Lumix line, all the way up rather than having to change to a new system
yes totally a LUMIX branded compact-cine cam is long overdue! Especially one with an L-Mount. I'm sure one will be on the horizon, but I doubt it will be "EVA" branded.
@@EdProsser You’re right, it’ll likely carry an S name, perhaps be something like SX1, seeing as the S5iiX has got the X to signify it’s the video focused one. Imagine a L mount compact cine camera, would be able to use the Sigma MC adapter and get almost perfect performance of EF glass but FF this time but then also be able to take advantage of the L mount glass as well. Would be amazing. Id also like for Panasonic to release a competitor to the Sony FX3 can only imagine the capabilities that could have.
@@jockturner1547 Who know's what they've got in store for the next few years... it'll be interesting to see how they develop the box BGH or BS1H range too.
Have 2xEVA-1s ( a PL & aN EF) use in nature work. Used the EVA-1 PL with Canon CN20 and the image is stunning. Cuts really well with Varicam LT and my RED Helium. I used with same batteries as you as well as V-mount FX LION Nanos. IR is really useful for wildlife as is the dual iso. From firmware 3 this became an amazing tool for loads of work. If they made an L mount EVA2 with that Panasonic colour science, a decent screen and a bit more robust I'd be interested, although my Z9 has started partnering the RED and Varicam a lot more now. The EVA1s are not getting sold off anytime soon, these are super solid cameras. Note that Gordon Buchanan filmed a nature doc on lynx with the EVA1.
@@EdProsser yeah if it had been launched sooner or with a mirrorless mount it would have stormed on. Sadly the FS7 was entrenched and sales flagged - which means they are a steal now. Varicam 35 and LT are still great and offer near Amira quality. I have a lot of fondness for Panasonic but after Mitch Gross moved on the writing was on the wall for cinema line. Shame as they are great family of cams
I've owned a pair of EVA1's for 4 years. I'm up for a job to direct/DP interviews with some of the top names in talent. No one has asked what kind of cameras I use. I'm also developing an ambitious feature as well, with known talent, which I plan to use the EVA1's. I keep one body on rails with Matte box, follow focus, and external monitor, etc. and another stripped down for use on a small slider or a collapsable jib arm, where the EVA's weight really helps. I recently bought Neat Video to deal with the occasional noise that Resolve can't handle when I purposely under expose, or if I have to use ISO 2500, and it solves any problems the EVA may have (other than not having autofocus, which I don't use anyway having manual prime APO lenses from SLR Magic - another company most people never heard of) The option to record Braw 5.7K makes it more competitive to recent cameras in my mind, and at this level, the camera is really one of the smallest bottlenecks to getting good production value. Even after I stop using the EVA's - years from now, for actual production I have a feeling I'll be using them for things like casting, table reads, previs test shoots, web videos, etc. The small, light form factor, XLR's with volume knobs, full 4K imagery derived from 5.7K, dual ISO makes them a good utility camera. Regarding the monitor - Panasonic took a lot of flak for the less than great monitor, but their rationale was that it was a serious camera at a low price, meaning you're obviously going to add a proper monitor, so why force you to pay for one built in? The on board is a fantastic status monitor when displaying the home screen. It was never meant to be a program monitor, and at that time of the EVA's design, monitors were progressing very quickly, especially in brightness. The audio section is good as well. I purchased the best sounding shotgun on the market, the Schoeps CMIT and I was worried it wouldn't sound good plugged directly into the EVA, but the internal mic preamps, if the gain is set correctly, are more than adequate. And by the time I upgrade, today's latest under $10K cams are going to seem dated or will be had for cheap. The new Alexa 35 is just so good after seeing Arri's demo, that for anything with a real budget I'd want to use nothing else.
Glad to hear you're still going strong with your EVA1s! I suppose compared to the competition at the time the monitor was below par and the third party monitor market wasn't as developed as it is now, but yeah it wasn't a huge issue to get a replacement!
As a filmstudent, this is the first camera I bought for myself. Do you have any lens recommendations? Would love to see some footage of the camera with the lenses you love. Hope you are doing well!
Yeah it really is the missing piece of the puzzle now isn't it. I feel like they've got their shit together now with the auto-focus - so if they chucked that into a compact-cine cam they could potentially have a winner on their hands. Perhaps that gets announced next year one the FX6 starts to be considered long in the tooth...
@@visual-enthusiast yes that's the Varicam division, their LUMIX division is still going strong and needs to push the L-mount to sell lenses, it'd make sense for them to release a compact-cine cam. I believe Panasonic have also been developing an 8K global shutter sensor which may possibly show up sometime in a consumer camera...
@Ed Prosser the Sony FX30 is beating the GH5, GH6 arses, and I don't think Lumix division is doing well enough. Panasonic late releases are weak and not worth the money. same with canon, they just stick with their lenses.
I love my Eva I will never sell her I use it for my podcast livestreams now. Any suggestions on how to get some nice luts to display instead of those 5 present scenes?
Great video and stunning images man!💯 Love my EVA-1 and the image it produces! Perfect for web stuff as you say. Even shot a commercial for cinemas recently and the image held up very well! It feel very reliable and I trust it on set. Thinking about picking up a few used ones to have as they don’t make new ones anymore. Keep up the good work /Markus
Thanks Markus, yes I was just today looking through the rushes of an older project shot on the EVA1 - it's a great cam with a beautiful image. Still holds up.
Nice! I always remember seeing the EVA1 when it got released at IBC a few years back and was always intrigued by it. At the time I was shooting a lot on the fs5/fs7 so it looked like quite a familiar setup in a slightly smaller package but just never actually got round to shooting anything with it. Shots look lovely on it though and totally agree with you when you mentioned about cameras only incrementally getting better in recent years - In the right hands, you can definitely yield very similar results. Wicked video again man, smashed it!
thanks man! Yeah I used to shoot on FS5s and FS7s too - usually renting them for shoots. I loved the form factor of the FS5 but I never "loved" the image from either camera and when the EVA1 appeared it seemed like it ticked more of my boxes as well as the size / cost advantage. The only downside was that not many people had heard of it and the fact you could chuck a Speedbooster on the Sony cams with their E-mount.
@@EdProsser Yea totally agree with you on the image, it was good but never really tickled my insides (you know what I mean hah). And yea I think because I already had an a7sii or a7r (I've had so many bloody sony cameras lol) it just made sense with the E-mount. Interesting to see it next to the Komodo though, makes me wonder whether I've just shit 10k up the wall 🥲🤣
haha I mean there's a big difference between the Komodo and EVA1 - but it's not a huge effort to get them to match in post under good conditions - usually you have to pull the Komodo a little towards the EVA1 to get there. I think for the money - the EVA1 is still very impressive when held next to a camera like the Komodo - if you know what you are doing you can definitely still squeeze a lot out of the EVA1. Having said all that, I definitely prefer the experience of shooting on the Komodo and what I can get straight out of camera and after working for years with the EVA1 was ready for something new.
Hey, I've been working with the EVA1 one a lot. But always had trouble grading tbh. I suppose I'm more of cinematographer and editor and just slam the Rec709 conversion LUT on. Could you do a tutorial on grading EVA footage?? I'd really like to see your workflow. The pictures are beautiful!
Hey Killian! What do you tend to struggle with? If you don't feel confident with grading log then you could always opt to shoot in one of the picture profiles - which is essentially a Rec.709 image - so you'd save yourself that LUT step in post!
@@EdProsser Yeah, it's hard for me to put my finger on it. I suppose they look fine, just a not as well crafted or cinematic as yours. I work in broadcast with a fast turnaround for our reports. For future doc stuff I'd like to create more of a stylised look. It doesn't help that it's compressed to bits as well, when uploading. Here an example, if you're curious: th-cam.com/video/bWNrbrFltOQ/w-d-xo.html
This is beautiful, I think the colours look great and organic whilst being vibrant. One thing I find with the stock Panasonic colours is they can be overly warm / red so you could try desaturate the reds a little and maybe push a tad more green in. Another thing is your obviously working with natural light, so just looking for contrast and getting diffuse light on the face that isn’t to flat. You could also experiment with the Alexa conversion LUT I mentions in the vid. I’ll deffo put out an EVA grading vid, just not sure when!
More great work Ed'. Thanks for making this! I had an EVA1 prior to 2020 and sold it was we headed into lockdown; the images are awesome! I really hope that Panasonic don't abandon the mid range cinema camera market. Right now I shoot on a C300mkiii with Tokina Cinema Zooms; looking back I feel that the EVA1 really benefits from a little bit of extra weight as it's so light out of the box, particularly if you're working with un-stabilized glass. I found that throwing it onto a VCT shoulder plate or adding an external battery made a huge difference to the feel of the footage. In a lot of ways I find it a lot less compromised than the FX6 for long-form content (Sony don't make it clear in their manuals that the Long GOP codec is actually 8bit), the 150mbps on the EVA1 is great when you've got a producer that wants to roll on everything. It's great that we live in a world where a college student could buy a camera with the proceeds of a summer job that could take them to Sundance or beyond.
Thanks for watching! The C300 iii is an excellent camera and a great upgrade from the EVA1. How have you been finding it? Yeah the weight of the EVA1 body became problematic when I moved onto the Vespids. Similar to you, rigging it out and adding a shoulder rig / vct plate etc helps solve this. But yes, you're totally right you could shoot a beautiful looking doc on this cam for years to come and it'll only get cheap as time ticks on!
@@EdProsser Definitely, for the money there's not much that can touch it.... My only other (very) minor gripe was the 1.8 (6 stop ND) which is a little limiting if you live somewhere sunny. Love the C300, it's frequently overlooked but the dynamic range is something special; 'was debating a used Amira but the power consumption put me off; I don't work with an AC as often as I'd like to.
Yeah I think we all look at used Arris from time to time and wonder 🤔 haha Yes with you on the ND, not quite enough in the summer here for outdoors work!
Happened upon this review as I am prepping my EVA1 for a job this weekend. I've had the EVA in storage for almost a year now and it's time to bring it back. Appreciate your very nice information and encouraging reminders of the EVA's many wonderful qualities. I was an early adopter and have always been pleased with the EVA1 image. Look forward to be8ng 1 of many who renew their love of our faithful Panasonic workhorse.
Great Review! I picked up 3 bodies used last year, each with over 900hrs! I got them to shoot a low budget reality show in Ghana and prayed they wouldn't shut down during the 3 month shoot.... they over delivered. Very versatile cameras, I have an S5 as well but find myself leaning towards picking up the EVA even for simple shoots because of the internal ND's and smoother image. I plan on shooting my next short and a feature on this, now looking for some good budget cine lenses to match with it.
Nice! Yeah I definitely notice the difference between the S5 which is too sharp, EVA1 has a lovely soft yet sharp organic feel. I use the Dzo film Vespids... And love them.
@@trayneadjeifilms great question! Depends what you shoot, but maybe the 16 / 21 then something in the 35 / 40 / 50 range depending on sensor size. If Super 35 maybe veer towards wider. I've got a few vids on the Vespids, the full set and the 21 and 40. Got another vid coming out on the 21mm in a few weeks
@trayneadjei2950 how are the cameras holding up? I'm considering one right now w 900 hours. @edposer thank you for the review. What's the mileage on yours and overall thoughts regarding possible lifespan?
I'm currently thinking about picking up the EVA-1 used as a replacement for my trusty GH5. I wonder what lenses besides the Sigma 18-35 you used with the EVA and can give recommendations on. I thought about pairing it with the Sigma 24-70 f2.8. I mainly do documentary as well as commercial work.
I think you'll like it, I originally used the GH5 as my b-cam alongside the EVA1. That seems like a good line up of lenses, the 18-35 is great for interviews and the 24-70 is a good run around lens. There's also the Sigma art 50-100 but quite a lot of overlap with the 24-70 which I think is more useful, so maybe a 70-200 if you think you need the reach (but I rarely do). Otherwise something wide angle could be good as well something in the 11-20 range. But honestly you could cover most bases with 18-35 + 24-70.
@@EdProsser Thanks for the quick answer! I also think that the 18-35 and the 24-70 are a good pair of lenses for my needs. I will have a look at some wide angle zooms or a prime later down the line.
@@elcamino6699 no worries! Yeah that's pretty much what I did! Bought the 18-35 with my GH4 (almost 10 years ago!) And then later on added a pre-owned Tamron 24-70, pretty much saw me through everything. Got a cheap used Tokina 11-16 eventualky but didn't use it much.
@@EdProsser I wanted to give a quick update: I picked up a used EVA today for 1800€, which I think is quite the deal. I also got a used Sigma 18-35 1.8 alongside it and I'm very much looking forward to shoot with it. Thanks again for your great video and your helpful answers here in the comment section!
Ive been looking for a main cinema camera as im mainly using the s5 ii x and 2 GH6s and ready to have a camera that has it all (xlr, ND, etc.). Definitely an intriguing camera in 2024. Curious if anyone knows, can you run dual channel? Occasionally i do documentaries and want to run shotgun for scratch into one xlr and then wireless lav kit into the other
I'm still using EVA1. My EVA1 has the PL mount conversion. Also have GH5 and GH6. I'm recording out to a BMD Video Assist 12G 7, using Tokina Vistas, and ATX zooms. I'm happy with the combo and receive positive comments from editors. I'm tempted by the Komodo, but cannot convince myself it would greatly improve quality.
I never opted to convert mine to PL - but I shoot on the Vespids which are easily convertible to EF / PL. Directed a project with the Tokina's last year - very nice glass. I previously shot on the GH5 as the b-cam until I picked up the S5 which is just phenomenal. I can definitely see a material difference in shooting between the EVA1 and the Komodo, the global shutter is a big one, but the Komodo just provides an even more organic image. I also just prefer using it over the EVA1 as it's simpler to operate and more compact / better weighted. My EVA1 still absolutely shines though and the two cams work really well together. If Panasonic had released an L-mount compact cine camera I would have jumped on that...
Part of me really wants one, mostly because of this video. But built-in NDs and all the other features are appealing, and it would make a great pairing with my S5ii/S1 setup. There's one going for a great price, with only 200 hours.
Really great review, as always Ed! 😊 I follow Media Division as well and they sing the praises of Eva-1. Where I live (Australia) there is a mint used EVA-1 for sale ex rental for £1870 …your ace review has me thinking about all the boxes it ticks for me! Thanks man 😊
Thanks for checking it out - and yes Media Division has put out loads of great EVA1 content. Hope this vid was helpful! I think it's a solid choice - if you want image quality and a decent all in one package. For £1870 - you're getting a lot of camera for the price. Unlike a DSLR you have what you need pretty much out of the box - and I found that this camera really allowed me to grow as a filmmaker. I definitely didn't know how to get the most out of it when I first started shooting with it but over the years learnt how to get the best out of it. Good luck with the decision!
I am deciding to purchase either Panasonic AU EVA1 or S5XII Is the video image quality and features better on S5IIX than Panasonic AU EVA1 please advise ? What is the pros on the S5XII? What is the pros of EVA1? Which has the best sensor / cinematic look? Which camera is more pro? Which is best pre amps for audio and mics?
It totally depends what you shoot and how you want to shoot. I can't answer all these questions for you, but if you need amazing AF, sharp image and small form factor go for S5ii if you want to work with a cine camera that is a bit more technical in operation and can give you a a more cinematic image, go EVA1! Good luck!
@@gurugamer8632 I guess that's subjective, but I prefer the EVA1 but you'll need to know how to expose and work with the camera to get the most out of it.
I imagine you feel about this camera the way I feel about the FX3 it’s the first camera you truly fell in love with for cinema production and it will probably be your camera forever.
YESSSS!!! The EVA 1 is Fuggin AMAZING!! COLOR LOOKS GREAT! Built like a TANK!! Lightweight!! Monitor is GARBAGE!! But everything else is Fuggin AWESOME!! I never understood why it wasn’t selling like hotcakes! It’s the sweet spot between the Varicam and the GH - Series.. A thousand thanks for this post!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Panasonic doesn’t get the credit it deserves.. 🙏🏾🙂
Thank you for this review! I am a lumix s5 user and have looked into options for an A/B cam setup and this looks really great especially for the price as well! I have a DIY anamorphic set up so I was wondering are there any shooting options for the Eva1?
Thanks for this. I recently invested in the the Sony ecosystem with the FX6 and A7iv and have been struggling with the decision to sell my EVA. Packed it up, only to unpack it. The camera still produces a stellar image that competes with more modern cameras. I just can't justifying selling it for 2 grand (as they are not going for much more these days). I prefer Panasonic's color science but the Sony has come a long way with s-log3 and with a little bit of post production work, I've been able to match between the 2 systems. Where the Sony has the major advantage is obviously with autofocus and the variable ND. Prior to the switch I never used autofocus and was hesitant to put my faith in it. But it's remarkably accurate and quite useful when conducting interviews or on a gimbal, especially as a solo shooter. But with that said, I don't think I can part with the EVA. I guess its true what they say about your first love. Can't let go.
Beautifully put! Yes just couldn't bring myself to sell mine, looked at the FX6 and looks like a fantastic cam, but all in all I didn't feel it offered the huge step up in image quality I was looking for, which is why I opted for the Komodo. Thanks for stopping by!
who knows! It would certainly make sense to have a LUMIX branded one on the horizon and I seem to remember hearing Panasonic were working on some amazing 8K organic sensor - but I don't know how far away that is from being in a commercial product.... I guess Panasonic would need to produce their own sensor for a cine-cam line rather than relying on something from Sony?
@@getfmlr do you think they were a misstep? My understanding is that they served a certain need for people wanting fixed cameras for events and live streaming etc.. I really liked the BS1H when I tried it out! But yes, I'm really keen to see what else happens this year... With Panasonic releases ... Hopefully they were just waiting to nail the AF issue until they develop something a bit more chunky.
@@EdProsser maybe not on the technical front but to companies the only Metric that matters is sales numbers. So yes, in that regard it was a big misstep. I put it down to pricing because there were similar options at lower price points. I myself picked up a ZCam.
Hey man, awesome video! It's really inciteful and interesting to me some of points. I'm someone who actually recently purchases the eva used on ebay a couple months ago. I was introduced to it by someone who does a lot of corporate work that I've been assisting he's had his since the beginning. I definitely see it as a way to look way more professional with my own shoots. So far I've used my Eva for interviews and handheld in run and gun documentary setups. I also have the S5 and that's the two cameras I use. I do plan on getting the S5II because of it's autofocus. Although if they came out with a new EVA type camera with autofocus I probably wouldn't be as eager. The fact that the camera is basically manual focus only feels better to me, I've been using the 18-35 1.8 and a Helios 44-2. The part where you mentioned that the camera should be heavier is interesting to me, because I've been filming soccer tryouts/workout for a local soccer club with the eva handheld with the 18-35 with a small rig handle and a monitor attached to that handle and if I'm moving with the players I'm able to get usable stable footage just using the top handle. I know this comment has been all over the place. What would do if they came out with an update to the eva like same body but maybe newer features 6k and as good af as S5II? Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the comment and nice to hear about your EVA1 usage! Weight wise, the Sigma art is pretty nice to shoot handheld and I guess it's at the wider end, esp if you're below 35mm, I definitely find focal lengths of 35+ benefit from weight. Case in point with the Helios it's such a tiny lens on the EVA1 and you get a lot of movement if you're changing aperture / focus, u less you're using a follow focus. If Panasonic brings out a new compact-cine cam I'd definitely look at it seriously, although I do have the Komodo now... But at some point I'll sell on my EVA1 and replace it with something else.
Yeap I was always tempted to get an Eva 1 particularly for their cheap 2nd hand price :) but I read somewhere from Panasonic that there won't be an Eva 1 as for them the s1h replaced it :( which I found super weird... The issue with people not getting it is the same issue all Panasonic are plagued with lately..you seriously have no idea if there will be a newer model later down the road. They seriously don't communicate at all.. even the varricams department is super quiet lol. Anyway great video, you put in a lot of hard work in it! Nice to see it's really close to a red komodo haha.
Yeah I think I remember reading that they're no longer supporting the Varicam / EVA1 line i.e. no new cams expected, but potentially LUMIX could deliver a compact-cine cam.
That clean look out of the Eva has such a high key commercial look. The only camera I've seen at this price point that can get that look is the C200 in raw.
My introduction to this camera was Christmas of 2015 I was given the gift of either renting this camera for the weekend to shoot a short film which was like $400 or get a dslr for similar cost. At the time I had no experience with manual cameras I knew about it from videos I saw online but never really had hands on experience with it so chose the DSLR and that was honestly one of the best choices because even though the image quality isn’t close to this camera it gave me time to play with exposure and shutter speed and understanding iso and aperture and everything instead of it being forced into 2-3 days. Since I now own several cinema cameras I always appreciate building that foundation back then which was important.
@@EdProsser I picked mine up a year later and it got me thinking if the person had it mistaken for another Panasonic camera. In any case what are details really ???
@@eyeballbilly haha! Who knows! After the pandemic my sense of time has been totally messed up, but yeah I started shooting on the camera end of 17 / early 18 I think. I used it in house where I used to work as a part-time film maker and then picked one up myself!
Great video always been interested in these having owned an FS5 and a black magic it’s mini, love the look on the Panasonic and was always fond of my AF101. Is the camera functional without the side hand grip? Looking at buying one but it doesn’t have the hand grip and I imagine buying one off Panasonic will be more expense than it’s worth.
Thanks for the quick response! I’d love them to do an updated af101 alas I think that ship has sailed. Good to hear that about the grip especially with rigging up. Realised the camera I was looking at also doesn’t have the screen I assume that’s perhaps more annoying to be missing with it being a touch screen? I know a lot of people use external monitors anyway as the default monitor was lacking especially outdoors.
would you recommend this as someone's first cinema camera? wouldn't work for a hiking gig, now would it :p? I AM very fit and hiking with 24kg was a picknick (last time I went), and I would like to fondle around in the mountains, getting that absolute lovely cinema shot over there. though, point for a new camera is shooting normal video gigs for money, of course.
Hmm I don't know, depends on their experience and budget. If you can afford something more modern maybe a better bet, but if you have the skills and are willing to work with this camera it can produce a beautiful image!
Personally I'm more willing to learn the proper cinema skills: focus myself and not use a gimbal. But I'm suspicious that what corporate gigs wants me to do is better suited with gimbals and very sharp image instead of cinematic image. And corporate gigs is what I will be hired for the next 6 months. I'm a graphic designer, pro photographer, with a healthy basis for video and editing skills that got hired for a mix of graphic, photo and the addition of video (40% or so they said). I'll be the in-house content creator, corporate design, jack of all trades (with a steep learning curve for video I suspect). @@EdProsser I don't want to, but I'm afraid I need to go mirrorless, autofocus and with gimbal, because I expect that THEY expect me to point and shoot and have a sharp image without 'organic' shake. they probably don't care about colours much. But if you did read this and hear a beginner videographer mistaken assumption, I'm all ears. long term aim: that Panasonic cinema vibe that you manage to get (sorta, of course I'll learn to make my own version of it). short term aim: not fuck up this gig.
@@Markplaats-x1h the EVA1 is a very sharp camera I tend to soften it up a lot. But the S5 ii might be a better option for you! Check out my review or the S5 iix
Thanks for the video, Ed. I am SURPRISED that this video got so many views (and comments) since as you mentioned, the EVA1 is an older camera and it was probably never as popular as it should have been. There are so MANY good cameras on the market right now. I already own a Panasonic S1 and an S5 (original, not the new MK II). I have seen some pretty good prices on used GH6 bodies, too, and m43 lenses are cheap and plentiful. Tough trying to decide whether to add / update my S5 to an S5 II, or add an EVA1 or GH6. I assume the EVA1 has an AA filter on it, right?
@@EdProsser Thank you for the reply, Ed. One more question: is there a significant difference between the dynamic range of the EVA1 and the S5 / S1 series of cameras? I know the sensor is larger on the S5 / S1, but for some reason I thought that the smaller sensor of the EVA1 has MORE dynamic range due to the implementation of the analogue-to-digital converter. (Oh, and if there is a significant difference in DR between the EVA1 and the Red Komodo, please let us know that, too.) Thanks in advance.
@@marin_real_estate_photography I don't know what the technical figures are to be honest, it's not really something I go super deep into, I'm sure you can Google them. In terms of my preference, I feel the Komodo has a lot more latitude and a more pleasing highlight roll off, just everything about it is very pleasing and the way it renders motion is just in a league of it's own. The EVA1 has a nicer organic feel than the S5 which is over sharp in places and a bit more digital in my opinion. That's not to knock the little S5, what you get for the price and size of that camera is phenomenal and it also has a very nice highlight roll off. I just find the EVA1 renders skin tones a little nicer when side by side... In terms of dynamic range it's a tricky one because they all require diff workflows in post so it's hard to compare them like for like... The S5 definitely has the most internal processing etc whereas the other two leave more of that for post.
I love your shots and grading. So cinematic.. Which Black Mist filter do you use? I perhaps Tiffen 1/4? I really like to know, your work inspires me alot!
Thanks! I think the pro mist I have is a Tiffen 1/4 black pro mist - am keen to try out some other diffusion filters and strengths though, especially Glimmer Glass.
Can you operate the menu with a third party monitor? I see you using the Blackmagic monitor, but I'm wondering if I can ditch the LCD and replace it completely with something third party? Obviously don't want to lose functionality, but this question isn't answered anywhere!
@EdProsser Ah but not control it even if the monitor is touch screen? It just seems like if this fairly flimsy and unpleasant monitor breaks, there isn't any great alternative to replace it with. Could put me off getting an Eva
@@purplemonkeyelephant it's fairly easy to control with camera controls on an external monitor, that's how I've used it and tend to leave the old monitor behind.
Finally decided to pick one up used for around $1200 usd. Couldn’t resist the deal! There’s this guy on TH-cam who is in antártica right now filming a documentary on a Sony fs7 with a 1,000,000 budget per episode. Convinced me the Eva was not too old or irrelevant. Excited to see what I’ll capture with it
Haven't had a chance to use one yet, did consider them when upgrading from the EVA1 before I went with the Komodo but hard to get hold of one to test out
Yeah I got to shoot his meltdown festival in London, so we shot a lot of little promo pieces and interviews and then the gigs with various bands (as well as a little trip to shoot at Abbey Road).
One of my friend had worked with that camera at office of the president of Rep. of Korea. so many footages were taken by the camera and even some footages were taken while sitting in a fighter jet, to make a PR video.
Even though you like the standard Panasonic luts, I highly recommend you check out 55Media luts. He has several luts that match with Red ipp2 and the Alexa. Once you’ve tried them it’s hard to go back to Panasonic’s luts.
Thanks for the tip I will check them out. I'm woefully uneducated when it comes to LUTs and what's out there. A few companies have started sending me some to try so I'll likely do a round up video looking at them. Any others you recommend?
@@EdProsser When it comes to V-log these are the most populair. 55Media, Gamut, S1Alex. I got them all and prefer 55media personally. There's also a new one from Joel Famularo who is know from from is Sony to Alexa conversions but I haven't tried them. There's also Primers luts from Omeneo design. Seem very nice but haven't tried them yet.
@@Aviciiz I've got the gamut LUTs ideally I like something fairly neutral and to try dial in the creative myself... But maybe I just haven't found the right LUTs. I'm probably going to pick up the Phantom LUTs for quick turn around Komodo work.
@@EdProsser Gamut is nice too, it's similar to the Nicest 709 lut. But I don't like how you have to expose brighter and how it handles colour. It lacks color separation in my opinion. I might get Phantom luts too, interested in how it compares to 55media.
The ef-mount is the biggest bummer for me, why didn't they made like the af100 and the JVC GY-LS300 and use an MFT mount, if they wanted to use a slr mount it would be better to be a PL mount
I guess if MFT it'd have to be a smaller / diff sensor. Pana were in a weird place as they didn't have their L-mount cams out yet - but I suppose made sense when looking at the competition and the market they were going for - EF was probably the dominant mount at the time. Most people who shot on the FS7 / FS5s and C100-300 were using EF glass. It is possible to convert it to PL but it's a bit of an involved process - perhaps they should have made the mount easier to swap out...
@@EdProsser the jvc gy-ls300 is a super35 camera with an mft mount thats why i mentioned her, i've seen eva1 conversion to PL but it just seems a pain in the ass to install
Great review! I'm tempted to get one today as the specs till hold up in 2024. If you were starting again in documentary, would you go for the EVA or a built up BS1H? The footage you're getting out of both is beautiful but obviously ergonomics are very different.
Secret EVA1 LCD trick. Set backlight to +1 in the menu. Bind custom button to the “Power LCD” option to double the brightness beyond that. (I use the slot select button). I like using +1 NR on base 800. +2 on 2500. Shoot 2500 @ 1250 or 1600 for less noise on green screen shoots.
Thanks for the Video! i really love the colour of the eva 1. I am thinking about buying one as my first professional camera, but i'm not sure about autofocus, because i'm a solo operator, where i have to pull focus on my own. Most of the time i film live concerts and wildlife. Is it better to get the FX6? I can get a EVA 1 with a Sigma 18-35mm for around 3000€ and I would have a lot of money left to buy accessories 😅 kinda hard decision
It's a difficult question! Have you tried either? You can get great results with both for sure, I think I still prefer the colour of the EVA1. The FX6 is slightly newer so has more versatile functions, it's FF rather than S35 and has amazing AF and a great electronic ND system. If you can find a used FX6 it could be a good bet, but I'd recommend trying both out and figuring out which you prefer.
@@EdProsser thanks for the answer. Sadly I haven‘t got any chance to test both of them, maybe I can rent them somewhere. I also do prefer the colour of the Eva 1😅 an Eva 2 with the new phase detection autofocus would be awesome, but I don‘t think we will get a Eva 2 in the future😅
@@EdProsser maybe, would be cool to have a competition to the fx6 and c70. Do you find the lack of autofocus annoying on the Eva 1? Or is it hard to learn to manual focus? With my old Panasonic camcorder I used like 80% manual and 20% autofocus.
still an incredible camera, I neglected it a bit because it duplicated my red but it's great! the colors are top, the nd, the media which are inexpensive, the codecs (we often underestimate that but the sony A7SIII or canon R5 are disgusting). I still recommend it in 2023 for anyone who wants a camera under 4000 euro
Thank you for this! Looking to rent this camera for a job next month. In your opinion would I be able to get away with the EVA’s lcd screen in an auditorium like environment or should I opt for an external monitor?
I mean I guess it depends what you're shooting, in terms of it being reflective, you should be fine, it's only outside that it's totally unusable. I put up with it for about 6 months until I got an external monitor but I couldn't go back after getting one (were also not blessed with year long sunshine in the UK). If you're needing to pull focus a lot and your subject is not well lit then you might struggle, but using the punch in focus tool and focus peaking will help you. I know budgets can limit things, but anything that is gonna improve your ability to capture consistent and reliable images is important!
@@EdProsser Thank you for the insight! Yeah we’ll be indoors for the whole shoot so I guess we should be fine. And hey, sometimes I’d like to trade in the sunny weather to get something a bit moodier lol
Another vote for this hugely underrated camera. I pair it with a Varicam LT and an S1H ( on a gimbal) all in vlog all match beautifully. Sadly it seems Panasonic are not supporting this sector any longer and have gone with the Producer Lumix range. When the time comes to change all the cameras I will be changing manufacturer too.😢
I picked up a Komodo because of that, but decided to keep my EVA as still love it as an all in one solution and for when I have to send compressed media remotely. Perhaps we will see a LUMIX branded cine-cam one day ...
Panasonic colour science is second to none and it will be a shame to loose it. I think they lost the marketing fight with Sony and Canon. Once again it's not always the best technology that wins, although I would probably return to Canon over Red.
I still use the EVA-1 everyday. The company I work for bought it years ago and didn't upgrade it, yet. I do miss fullframe though. And I feel like the camera needs a LOT of light to proper expose, that's annoying, especially when filming one-man.
I don't think it's anything out of the ordinary for a Super35 cine cam - as mentioned in the review - it takes a more paired back approach to noise - rather than smudging the image internally - so you do have to expose properly and give the sensor a decent amount of light - but you'd have to do that with an Alexa or RED too.
Depends what you mean by better? FX6 probably a smarter choice for a newer camera, but a lot more expensive. Personally I prefer the EVA1 over the FS7 II
@@gurugamer8632 image wise I think the EVA1 is still a great looking camera, I'm not a huge fan of Sony's cams, but FX6 is still also an amazing camera. You can't go wrong with either and it's down to personal preference. EVA1 used is much cheaper, but FX6 has more modern features and autofocus.
damn this might be the perfect alternative for the Canon C200! the EVA1 is a bit more expensive but this is so much more versatile and you dont have to stick with huge Cinema RAW files! amazing ❤
I was torn between the EVA1 and the FX6 a few years back. I always had canon lenses and I was currently and GH5S user. The EVA1 would have been perfect. I took the plunge and bought the FX6, and it was a wise move. Just owning this camera got me a lot of work, especially when there was a chip shortage and these were rare. The EVA1 is a great camera, but it sadly lost out to the other cameras.
Had the FX6 been out at the time I might have gone for that! But the EVA1 definitely served me well, no regrets on my side, never really lost a job because of it.
Found one for $1900. Should I go for it? Of course asking for fun, unless? (1x Panasonic EVA1 body with screen and handle; 3x Swit S-8D58 battery; 1x Swit S8D68 battery; 1x Probty dual channel battery charger; 1x Vocas EVA1 handle to rosette adapter)
After watching this video again, I am considering adding the EVA to my Panasonic collection (S5ii, GH6, GH5S, GH5, HCX2000). It would be helpful if I can color match it to one or more of the cams I have now.
yeah you should definitely be able to to match it I used to shoot with a GH5 alongside this cam then upgraded to the S5 - I'd say the S5 & S5ii definitely have very close colour science to the EVA1.
Look out for greens. Panasonic Pro and LUMIX produce a very different tint on that color, so just keep that in mind when you want to color match and you should be good to go go 😉
I prefer the image from the EVA1 to the S5 and the S5ii has the same image quality to the mark 1. I also find it harder to shoot on the S5 form factor (need to rig it out) - so I think having them as a pair would cover all your shooting needs - if you can afford to have them both?!
do you frequently conduct interviews while operating this camera? I'm just wondering if it has been a challenge keeping folks in focus while concentration on interviewing them - or do you typically hire another camera operator?
It's different for every project, I definitely used to do it more often, but nowadays I tend to work with an assistant. But if I am, I tend to set a mid shot and keep a monitor in my hand and it tends to be fine to be honest. Definitely better to have someone monitoring and being able to concentrate on interviewing, or visa versa.
@@EdProsser Thanks for the response! Yeah, I have access to a FX6 and FX3 through my employer, but I'd like to have a personal camera for doing projects on the side without necessarily notifying the authorities - if you know what I mean :) I'm kinda on the fence between the EVA or a C200.
C200 has benefit of autofocus - but I think the EVA1 has the edge on image and stronger internal codecs etc. I guess you can't really go wrong with either. I've never really used an AF cam to be honest and probably wouldn't trust it if I was interviewing someone solo even on the FX6... as I can't monitor the image continuously to check it's doing it's job properly... Generally I would stop down a bit and shoot a little wider if I were shooting solo.
I used this camera when shooting my first doc. I really loved the form factor and the 10 bit 4:2:2. It was so easy to grade in resolve. I do agree that the monitor is awful and it ruined some of my shots bc they were out of focus, but I guess that’s just a lesson learned haha. Overall a great camera though!
I thought it was great all in one solution. With a beautiful image and skin tones and decent recording codecs and frame rates. Very lightweight for a solo operator and packs down to a small footprint. The screen is awful but I always used an external monitor anyway, at times I found the camera to be too light so I had to add weight! The side grip is a bit plasticy. The camera can take a bit of time to switch into slower frame rates which could be problematic if you're working quickly to capture something. Obviously no AF like on modern cams but again I manual focus.
@@EdProsser thanks for answer. The eva1 is really tempting now since it can be found in good state for around 1800 euros, with batteries... And I already have EF glass (8-16 sigma, 18-35 sigma, 70-200 canon f4 ... )
It's a really convenient package - as it's an all in one solution, lightweight and still has some strong recording codecs. The S5 IIx is still a great choice as well but you'll be paying more to gig it out to get it in the same shape as the EVA1. (batteries, rigging kit, audio solution etc ) just make sure you factor in an external monitor for the EVA1!
Did some test yesterday of S5 mkii in prores raw and APSC mode (4.1k50 c4k), treating the files with Neatvideo, damn that's good. It requires that extra step of noise reduction but the image is incredible. Still tempted to test the eva1 but the 4k50 in 8bit only is hard...
Image quality wise I love my EVA 01, however I've found it to be a fairly difficult camera to work with compared to some of the other cinema cams I use at work. I've had lots of issues with menu settings coming unstuck, for example recording xlr audio, then stopping down for a battery change to have the xlr swap off and needing to dig back through menus to turn them back on. (codec swaps happen like this for me quite often as well, not every time but often). I also wish it came in the box with a better viewfinder, replacing this with a good quality monitor makes the camera much better to work with. These days my S5 has become my daily driver and in almost every respect I'd reach for my s5 instead of the EVA 01. Still all quirks aside I still get good life out of my EVA 01 when I need a cine cam body companion for my S5. I'd honestly really like to see an EVA-02 with some of the quirks iorned out, an L mount to line up with panasonics other offerings, and maybe even the new panasonic auto focus system. Make it more of a parallel to the FX-6, if panasonic would get into that space I think they'd absolutely crush it in the indie film/documentary market. And again if you get past the quirks the sensor and the images coming out of this thing are awesome even five years later.
Yeah I mean no camera is perfect - but I generally got on with the EVA1. There is the quirk of setting your codec after changing frame rates - but once you remember that always happens then I was fine... I think a 6K FX6 killer with the new AF - combined with a strategic release could be a massive success. I'd definitely have pounced on that!
@@EdProsser very nice! I've been enjoying adding the PM to our komodo lately. Always been a fan of the EVA, a bit less popular here in in the states but many FS7 users converted when the camera was first announced.
Thanks for a perfect review video! It is rare to find on yt these days I feel :) Quick question: I recently got a great deal on an eva1 and brought it home to use alongside my canon r5c. Any advice on how best to colormatch the two? Transform both to alexa colorspace and go from there?
I would have been if they had released one but I ended up going for the Komodo. I hope the LUMIX division of Panasonic bring out some sort of L-mount compact cine cam !
![We made a music video [with Panasonic EVA1]](/img/n.gif)
I'd love to know what you think about the EVA1 after watching this?
Also, do check out my V-log colour grading tutorial series - th-cam.com/video/g8gtbsJLIAY/w-d-xo.html
Ah, perfect!
i adore this camera. the ONLY reason i got rid of it - and I have missed it ever since - was because the autofocus was so bad on their DSLRS which served as my b-cameras. i pretty much hon through every camera - FX3, FX6, Komodo, Canon 500ii, and even Venice… none have given me the simple joy of such a rich and cinematic image as the EVA-1. crappy monitor and all. Besides the Alexa Mini, it is my absolute favorite camera. But now- the new S5II all my previous probs are somber. And right after watching this most excellent review- really the best one for this camera ever made- i just ordered it again. I’m going back with my army of amazing canon EF primes. I just loved the feeling i got shooting the footage. all your footage just reminded me of how much i miss that camera. Thanks and cheers mate! subscribed!!!
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Thanks so much for the sub!! And for sharing your EVA1 passion - it's so nice to hear how many people love this camera! Did you prefer the EVA1 even over the Venice? That's super interesting!
That will be a very nice editing setup
They just need to make an EVA2 with the S1H sensor in L mount with the new PDAF. Would take a huge chunk of the FX6/C70 market.
It'd be a great cam!
No FF pls
Exactly what I was thinking. This camera can compete with the Fx on its own, just no full frame is the offset
Image quality in Eva1 is beautiful
it really is!
Better than Sony
Feeling very validated by this! Won over a DP (and Alexa owner) recently , reluctant to use my EVA1 on a shoot. He was mighty impressed.
Nice - well done - yes I've had this before and people are always impressed with what it can capture. Often the client just associates the Alexa as being the gold standard and anything else is a compromise.
What sort of thing were you shooting?
I have been a Panasonic user for almost 15 years from DVX100B to HPX500E and HPX371E and I have just started upgrading to EVA1 (we just acquired three) thanks for the Media Division's detailed review. The joy I get from this model just from testing is unquantifiable, I can't wait to start using it for projects. HPX500 and HPX371 still hold very well till this day though.
Whoop hope they bring you years of beautiful images!
Had this camera from 2018 to 2022 - absolutely loved it and was sad to see it go. Always on a look out to buy one again in the future. Great video!
Great video! I'm a year late but even compared to the more recent Lumix releases, this looks like a great accompaniment to my S5 and GH4 cameras haha! Thanks again!
It's still a great camera! All the new LUMIX cameras have the same sensor as the original s5 anyway!
The video I have been needing to see lol. Well done man! I want to switch to EVA1s and S5s/S1h setups and blackmagic b raw recorders. This video really helps!
Glad to be of service! What is your setup at the moment?
@@EdProsser my go to “A Cam” is the Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro G2. I pair that with a slew of pocket 6ks and a 4K. I just can’t say no to b raw
@@JustinPorterMedia nice! I almost got the URSA G2 before I landed on the EVA1.
Thanks for the reality check. I'm fond of my EVA1, and think it will be with me for a couple more years. The only drawbacks for me are (1) the horrid "mirror" screen and (2) clients have never heard of it. The screen is an easy fix (get a monitor), but the lack of model recognition with clients is unfortunate. No one has every complained about my footage image quality, but I'm sure I've been passed over for not owning a RED or ARRI camera.
I also have the S1H, which pairs very well with the EVA1. I bought it to have a smaller, lighter camera for gimbal work, the ability to take still images, serve as a B-camera for 2 camera shoots and the "full frame look". The two cameras are easy to grade as they both have the full V-log color space. I owned a Sony FS5, and never quite liked color grading S-log footage.
For a camera that is pushing 5 years old, I think the EVA1 is still a viable camera. I will invest in a new set of cine primes before I invest in another camera.
Thanks for watching!
Yeah I shot on a rental FS5 for about a year before getting the EVA1 - never loved the image and could never cajole it in the way I can with the EVA1.
When I purchased the EVA1 the camera sales person tried to convince be to purchase the S1 but i'm glad I stuck with the EVA1 as I prefer the form factor. The image from the S1h is phenomenal too. If I could have afforded one as my b-cam I'd have opted for that, but I do love my little S5.
People have often commented on the quality of EVA1 footage and asked me what it was shot on - they're always surprised when they hear it's an older Panasonic camera!
Yes agreed about investing in glass rather than new body. Ability to do 5.7K Braw is still really impressive despite less features than current cameras. I have a pair of EVA's and am up for a doc shooting A list talent - no one asked which cameras I'm using because they know my directorial eye and can see my appropriate DP skills. I'm planning a crime feature using my 2 EVA's and may not even shoot raw. I just purchased Neat Video, for a problematic shot, so I know I can clean up any issue of EVA noise without loosing sharpness.
Holding onto the EVA for 2-4 more years means when it's time to upgrade, it should be a significant rather than incremental upgrade, or we'll be able to get todays latest cameras at very good prices.
EVA1 owner/operator here. I love this camera. I got the PL mount and use DZO Pictor Zooms. I think it still holds up to cameras on the market now. The only thing I really wish it had is automatic ND digital filters. If Panasonic ever releases an upgrade to this camera, I'll get it in a heartbeat.
I have two EVA's and plan to hold on for a bit or go Braw 5.7K if needed. By the time I replace my EVA's I'm expecting something really significant.
I own two EVA1s & the full S series. Panasonic needs to release the L mount EVA2.
Is eva1 better than FX6?
@@johnnycashlesscomedy8616 which camera would you replace the Eva1 with today?
It's difficult to say a cam is "better" the EVA1 is obviously much older and lacks some of the features of the FX6. They're diff sensor sizes, Super 35 Vs full frame and the EVA1 can be picked up for a fraction of the price of an FX6.
The diff in picture quality is not worlds apart, if you have the cash go for the FX6, if you want a bit more for your money go for the EVA1.
An absolutely fantastic review of the EVA. I 2nd every single point you've brought up. I've had the EVA since early 2020 and I've never been able to come close to the images you have produced, just for this video.
Needless to say, I'm going to be diving deep into your DaVinci videos for correction and grading.
Thanks James!! Yeah was nice looking back at all the old projects, even back when I didn't know what I was doing with colour grading, the footage from the EVA1 never really needed too much work. I'll have some more v-log grading tutorials coming soon
I've had mine for 5 years, and it's never let me down. I have a film project that I shot with it winning awards all over the world. The only thing that really upsets me is that the line was never developed further. I used it alongside a Red Mostramo on a film, and felt the EVA outshot the Red. Yes no autofocus, and the screen drive me NUTS. But no camera is perfect.
If you know how to work it, the image is still top notch
Yeah Ive had mine for 5-6 years now. Absolutely love it. Definitely holding its value pretty well and staying relevant.
amazing! I would love to check out the film you shot with it. is that possible?
Are you still using the EVA1 in 2024?
@@harlemwoodstudios Yes: th-cam.com/video/6qjjJzLVy0s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F94PEUnzr3iN59ou
The Eva 1 is a beast time for a Eva 2 with phase detection. It will be an amazing camera.
Hopefully this new interest in Lumix will spark Panasonic to update all of these lines. There’s no reason an EVA2 wouldn’t be able to contend with the likes of the FX6 or the rumoured C200 mark 2. Personally I can only afford an S5… but I would love a future where I can upgrade though the Lumix line, all the way up rather than having to change to a new system
yes totally a LUMIX branded compact-cine cam is long overdue! Especially one with an L-Mount. I'm sure one will be on the horizon, but I doubt it will be "EVA" branded.
@@EdProsser You’re right, it’ll likely carry an S name, perhaps be something like SX1, seeing as the S5iiX has got the X to signify it’s the video focused one. Imagine a L mount compact cine camera, would be able to use the Sigma MC adapter and get almost perfect performance of EF glass but FF this time but then also be able to take advantage of the L mount glass as well.
Would be amazing. Id also like for Panasonic to release a competitor to the Sony FX3 can only imagine the capabilities that could have.
@@jockturner1547 Who know's what they've got in store for the next few years... it'll be interesting to see how they develop the box BGH or BS1H range too.
@@EdProsser it’s a shame but I agree.
Have 2xEVA-1s ( a PL & aN EF) use in nature work.
Used the EVA-1 PL with Canon CN20 and the image is stunning. Cuts really well with Varicam LT and my RED Helium.
I used with same batteries as you as well as V-mount FX LION Nanos.
IR is really useful for wildlife as is the dual iso. From firmware 3 this became an amazing tool for loads of work.
If they made an L mount EVA2 with that Panasonic colour science, a decent screen and a bit more robust I'd be interested, although my Z9 has started partnering the RED and Varicam a lot more now.
The EVA1s are not getting sold off anytime soon, these are super solid cameras.
Note that Gordon Buchanan filmed a nature doc on lynx with the EVA1.
It's such an underrated camera, but I was a little blown away by the response this vid got I think it's my best performing video (!)🤣
@@EdProsser yeah if it had been launched sooner or with a mirrorless mount it would have stormed on. Sadly the FS7 was entrenched and sales flagged - which means they are a steal now.
Varicam 35 and LT are still great and offer near Amira quality.
I have a lot of fondness for Panasonic but after Mitch Gross moved on the writing was on the wall for cinema line. Shame as they are great family of cams
I've owned a pair of EVA1's for 4 years. I'm up for a job to direct/DP interviews with some of the top names in talent. No one has asked what kind of cameras I use. I'm also developing an ambitious feature as well, with known talent, which I plan to use the EVA1's. I keep one body on rails with Matte box, follow focus, and external monitor, etc. and another stripped down for use on a small slider or a collapsable jib arm, where the EVA's weight really helps.
I recently bought Neat Video to deal with the occasional noise that Resolve can't handle when I purposely under expose, or if I have to use ISO 2500, and it solves any problems the EVA may have (other than not having autofocus, which I don't use anyway having manual prime APO lenses from SLR Magic - another company most people never heard of)
The option to record Braw 5.7K makes it more competitive to recent cameras in my mind, and at this level, the camera is really one of the smallest bottlenecks to getting good production value.
Even after I stop using the EVA's - years from now, for actual production I have a feeling I'll be using them for things like casting, table reads, previs test shoots, web videos, etc. The small, light form factor, XLR's with volume knobs, full 4K imagery derived from 5.7K, dual ISO makes them a good utility camera.
Regarding the monitor - Panasonic took a lot of flak for the less than great monitor, but their rationale was that it was a serious camera at a low price, meaning you're obviously going to add a proper monitor, so why force you to pay for one built in? The on board is a fantastic status monitor when displaying the home screen. It was never meant to be a program monitor, and at that time of the EVA's design, monitors were progressing very quickly, especially in brightness.
The audio section is good as well. I purchased the best sounding shotgun on the market, the Schoeps CMIT and I was worried it wouldn't sound good plugged directly into the EVA, but the internal mic preamps, if the gain is set correctly, are more than adequate.
And by the time I upgrade, today's latest under $10K cams are going to seem dated or will be had for cheap.
The new Alexa 35 is just so good after seeing Arri's demo, that for anything with a real budget I'd want to use nothing else.
Glad to hear you're still going strong with your EVA1s!
I suppose compared to the competition at the time the monitor was below par and the third party monitor market wasn't as developed as it is now, but yeah it wasn't a huge issue to get a replacement!
Are you still using the EVA1 in 2024?
As a filmstudent, this is the first camera I bought for myself. Do you have any lens recommendations? Would love to see some footage of the camera with the lenses you love. Hope you are doing well!
You really put some great useful info with your videos. I watched your S5 video and it was very good. Thank you.
Thanks for checking them out!
It was worth the wait, great review! It makes me wonder what Panasonic could do with a FF EVA 2 with L mount that competes with FX6/9
Yeah it really is the missing piece of the puzzle now isn't it. I feel like they've got their shit together now with the auto-focus - so if they chucked that into a compact-cine cam they could potentially have a winner on their hands.
Perhaps that gets announced next year one the FX6 starts to be considered long in the tooth...
Panasonic abandoned the cinema industry before the pandemic.
@@visual-enthusiast yes that's the Varicam division, their LUMIX division is still going strong and needs to push the L-mount to sell lenses, it'd make sense for them to release a compact-cine cam.
I believe Panasonic have also been developing an 8K global shutter sensor which may possibly show up sometime in a consumer camera...
@Ed Prosser the Sony FX30 is beating the GH5, GH6 arses, and I don't think Lumix division is doing well enough. Panasonic late releases are weak and not worth the money. same with canon, they just stick with their lenses.
Ed, I LOVE my EVA1! Great reminder how good this camera is.
I love my Eva
I will never sell her
I use it for my podcast livestreams now.
Any suggestions on how to get some nice luts to display instead of those 5 present scenes?
I think you can load some LUTs through an SD card otherwise use an external monitor which can load / preview LUTs?
Great video and stunning images man!💯
Love my EVA-1 and the image it produces! Perfect for web stuff as you say. Even shot a commercial for cinemas recently and the image held up very well! It feel very reliable and I trust it on set. Thinking about picking up a few used ones to have as they don’t make new ones anymore.
Keep up the good work /Markus
Thanks Markus, yes I was just today looking through the rushes of an older project shot on the EVA1 - it's a great cam with a beautiful image. Still holds up.
Great video, been on the fence about getting one and this just propelled my decision
Hope you enjoy it if you pick one up!
Nice! I always remember seeing the EVA1 when it got released at IBC a few years back and was always intrigued by it. At the time I was shooting a lot on the fs5/fs7 so it looked like quite a familiar setup in a slightly smaller package but just never actually got round to shooting anything with it. Shots look lovely on it though and totally agree with you when you mentioned about cameras only incrementally getting better in recent years - In the right hands, you can definitely yield very similar results. Wicked video again man, smashed it!
thanks man!
Yeah I used to shoot on FS5s and FS7s too - usually renting them for shoots. I loved the form factor of the FS5 but I never "loved" the image from either camera and when the EVA1 appeared it seemed like it ticked more of my boxes as well as the size / cost advantage.
The only downside was that not many people had heard of it and the fact you could chuck a Speedbooster on the Sony cams with their E-mount.
@@EdProsser Yea totally agree with you on the image, it was good but never really tickled my insides (you know what I mean hah). And yea I think because I already had an a7sii or a7r (I've had so many bloody sony cameras lol) it just made sense with the E-mount. Interesting to see it next to the Komodo though, makes me wonder whether I've just shit 10k up the wall 🥲🤣
haha I mean there's a big difference between the Komodo and EVA1 - but it's not a huge effort to get them to match in post under good conditions - usually you have to pull the Komodo a little towards the EVA1 to get there.
I think for the money - the EVA1 is still very impressive when held next to a camera like the Komodo - if you know what you are doing you can definitely still squeeze a lot out of the EVA1.
Having said all that, I definitely prefer the experience of shooting on the Komodo and what I can get straight out of camera and after working for years with the EVA1 was ready for something new.
Just saw one of these for sale and had to research it. Looks like a great deal overall
Yeah if you can find cheap it's a good bargain!
Hey, I've been working with the EVA1 one a lot. But always had trouble grading tbh. I suppose I'm more of cinematographer and editor and just slam the Rec709 conversion LUT on. Could you do a tutorial on grading EVA footage?? I'd really like to see your workflow. The pictures are beautiful!
Hey Killian! What do you tend to struggle with? If you don't feel confident with grading log then you could always opt to shoot in one of the picture profiles - which is essentially a Rec.709 image - so you'd save yourself that LUT step in post!
@@EdProsser Yeah, it's hard for me to put my finger on it. I suppose they look fine, just a not as well crafted or cinematic as yours. I work in broadcast with a fast turnaround for our reports. For future doc stuff I'd like to create more of a stylised look. It doesn't help that it's compressed to bits as well, when uploading. Here an example, if you're curious: th-cam.com/video/bWNrbrFltOQ/w-d-xo.html
This is beautiful, I think the colours look great and organic whilst being vibrant. One thing I find with the stock Panasonic colours is they can be overly warm / red so you could try desaturate the reds a little and maybe push a tad more green in.
Another thing is your obviously working with natural light, so just looking for contrast and getting diffuse light on the face that isn’t to flat. You could also experiment with the Alexa conversion LUT I mentions in the vid.
I’ll deffo put out an EVA grading vid, just not sure when!
@@EdProsser thanks, I appreciate the advice. I will keep an eye out for your tutorials. You have yourself a new subscriber!
Hurrah, thanks!
More great work Ed'. Thanks for making this! I had an EVA1 prior to 2020 and sold it was we headed into lockdown; the images are awesome! I really hope that Panasonic don't abandon the mid range cinema camera market. Right now I shoot on a C300mkiii with Tokina Cinema Zooms; looking back I feel that the EVA1 really benefits from a little bit of extra weight as it's so light out of the box, particularly if you're working with un-stabilized glass. I found that throwing it onto a VCT shoulder plate or adding an external battery made a huge difference to the feel of the footage. In a lot of ways I find it a lot less compromised than the FX6 for long-form content (Sony don't make it clear in their manuals that the Long GOP codec is actually 8bit), the 150mbps on the EVA1 is great when you've got a producer that wants to roll on everything. It's great that we live in a world where a college student could buy a camera with the proceeds of a summer job that could take them to Sundance or beyond.
Thanks for watching!
The C300 iii is an excellent camera and a great upgrade from the EVA1. How have you been finding it?
Yeah the weight of the EVA1 body became problematic when I moved onto the Vespids. Similar to you, rigging it out and adding a shoulder rig / vct plate etc helps solve this.
But yes, you're totally right you could shoot a beautiful looking doc on this cam for years to come and it'll only get cheap as time ticks on!
@@EdProsser Definitely, for the money there's not much that can touch it.... My only other (very) minor gripe was the 1.8 (6 stop ND) which is a little limiting if you live somewhere sunny.
Love the C300, it's frequently overlooked but the dynamic range is something special; 'was debating a used Amira but the power consumption put me off; I don't work with an AC as often as I'd like to.
Yeah I think we all look at used Arris from time to time and wonder 🤔 haha
Yes with you on the ND, not quite enough in the summer here for outdoors work!
Happened upon this review as I am prepping my EVA1 for a job this weekend. I've had the EVA in storage for almost a year now and it's time to bring it back.
Appreciate your very nice information and encouraging reminders of the EVA's many wonderful qualities.
I was an early adopter and have always been pleased with the EVA1 image.
Look forward to be8ng 1 of many who renew their love of our faithful Panasonic workhorse.
Well I'm glad you happened upon it! Good luck with the EVA1 this weekend I'm sure it'll do you proud!!
Great Review! I picked up 3 bodies used last year, each with over 900hrs! I got them to shoot a low budget reality show in Ghana and prayed they wouldn't shut down during the 3 month shoot.... they over delivered. Very versatile cameras, I have an S5 as well but find myself leaning towards picking up the EVA even for simple shoots because of the internal ND's and smoother image. I plan on shooting my next short and a feature on this, now looking for some good budget cine lenses to match with it.
Nice! Yeah I definitely notice the difference between the S5 which is too sharp, EVA1 has a lovely soft yet sharp organic feel.
I use the Dzo film Vespids... And love them.
@@EdProsser yeah the vespids are my top choice, if you had to pick two of primes to start with which would you choose?
@@trayneadjeifilms great question! Depends what you shoot, but maybe the 16 / 21 then something in the 35 / 40 / 50 range depending on sensor size. If Super 35 maybe veer towards wider.
I've got a few vids on the Vespids, the full set and the 21 and 40. Got another vid coming out on the 21mm in a few weeks
best of luck mate!
@trayneadjei2950 how are the cameras holding up? I'm considering one right now w 900 hours. @edposer thank you for the review. What's the mileage on yours and overall thoughts regarding possible lifespan?
I'm currently thinking about picking up the EVA-1 used as a replacement for my trusty GH5. I wonder what lenses besides the Sigma 18-35 you used with the EVA and can give recommendations on. I thought about pairing it with the Sigma 24-70 f2.8. I mainly do documentary as well as commercial work.
I think you'll like it, I originally used the GH5 as my b-cam alongside the EVA1.
That seems like a good line up of lenses, the 18-35 is great for interviews and the 24-70 is a good run around lens. There's also the Sigma art 50-100 but quite a lot of overlap with the 24-70 which I think is more useful, so maybe a 70-200 if you think you need the reach (but I rarely do).
Otherwise something wide angle could be good as well something in the 11-20 range. But honestly you could cover most bases with 18-35 + 24-70.
@@EdProsser Thanks for the quick answer! I also think that the 18-35 and the 24-70 are a good pair of lenses for my needs. I will have a look at some wide angle zooms or a prime later down the line.
@@elcamino6699 no worries! Yeah that's pretty much what I did! Bought the 18-35 with my GH4 (almost 10 years ago!) And then later on added a pre-owned Tamron 24-70, pretty much saw me through everything.
Got a cheap used Tokina 11-16 eventualky but didn't use it much.
@@EdProsser I wanted to give a quick update: I picked up a used EVA today for 1800€, which I think is quite the deal. I also got a used Sigma 18-35 1.8 alongside it and I'm very much looking forward to shoot with it. Thanks again for your great video and your helpful answers here in the comment section!
@@elcamino6699 no trouble and congrats on your purchase! That's a great price. Hope it serves you well and check back later to let us know!
I have this camera and still love it
It's still a heavy hitter I think!
Ive been looking for a main cinema camera as im mainly using the s5 ii x and 2 GH6s and ready to have a camera that has it all (xlr, ND, etc.). Definitely an intriguing camera in 2024.
Curious if anyone knows, can you run dual channel? Occasionally i do documentaries and want to run shotgun for scratch into one xlr and then wireless lav kit into the other
Do you mean does it have two XLRs? Yes it does! You can run a shotgun on one and a wireless lapel mic pack on the other
@EdProsser I meant can you run two separate audio pieces so thank you for answering that! Great video
Fab video. You shoot great footage!
Thanks!
Agree! Want to make a new video about it myself :)
Woo, do it! Your earlier vids with the EVA1 influenced me to start shooting with it!
@@EdProsser Yey! Then I'm super glad you are happy with the camera :) It's crazy how cheap you can get it second hand nowadays.
I'm still using EVA1. My EVA1 has the PL mount conversion. Also have GH5 and GH6. I'm recording out to a BMD Video Assist 12G 7, using Tokina Vistas, and ATX zooms. I'm happy with the combo and receive positive comments from editors. I'm tempted by the Komodo, but cannot convince myself it would greatly improve quality.
I never opted to convert mine to PL - but I shoot on the Vespids which are easily convertible to EF / PL. Directed a project with the Tokina's last year - very nice glass.
I previously shot on the GH5 as the b-cam until I picked up the S5 which is just phenomenal.
I can definitely see a material difference in shooting between the EVA1 and the Komodo, the global shutter is a big one, but the Komodo just provides an even more organic image. I also just prefer using it over the EVA1 as it's simpler to operate and more compact / better weighted. My EVA1 still absolutely shines though and the two cams work really well together.
If Panasonic had released an L-mount compact cine camera I would have jumped on that...
@@EdProsser Bs1h perhaps?
@@FoolishSwamii I tried it but wasn't quite right for me, lovely image though!
Are you still using the EVA1 in 2024?
Have used it in a few projects but it's getting used less and less these days... Might be time to sell it.
Nice review! I had one gonna buy it again.
Good choice!
Part of me really wants one, mostly because of this video. But built-in NDs and all the other features are appealing, and it would make a great pairing with my S5ii/S1 setup. There's one going for a great price, with only 200 hours.
If you can get it cheap enough it totally makes sense. It's why I decided not to sell mine as I valued it more than I could sell it for!
Really great review, as always Ed! 😊 I follow Media Division as well and they sing the praises of Eva-1. Where I live (Australia) there is a mint used EVA-1 for sale ex rental for £1870 …your ace review has me thinking about all the boxes it ticks for me! Thanks man 😊
Thanks for checking it out - and yes Media Division has put out loads of great EVA1 content. Hope this vid was helpful!
I think it's a solid choice - if you want image quality and a decent all in one package. For £1870 - you're getting a lot of camera for the price. Unlike a DSLR you have what you need pretty much out of the box - and I found that this camera really allowed me to grow as a filmmaker. I definitely didn't know how to get the most out of it when I first started shooting with it but over the years learnt how to get the best out of it.
Good luck with the decision!
I am deciding to purchase either Panasonic AU EVA1 or S5XII
Is the video image quality and features better on S5IIX than Panasonic AU EVA1 please advise ?
What is the pros on the S5XII?
What is the pros of EVA1?
Which has the best sensor / cinematic look?
Which camera is more pro?
Which is best pre amps for audio and mics?
It totally depends what you shoot and how you want to shoot. I can't answer all these questions for you, but if you need amazing AF, sharp image and small form factor go for S5ii if you want to work with a cine camera that is a bit more technical in operation and can give you a a more cinematic image, go EVA1! Good luck!
@@EdProsser Which one has the superior sensor and image quality?
@@gurugamer8632 I guess that's subjective, but I prefer the EVA1 but you'll need to know how to expose and work with the camera to get the most out of it.
I like your footage a lot 😊 great job 👍
Thank you!
and now in mid 2023 five years later since this came out, what is better, smarter and gives a cinematic look and continues auto focus?
If you're looking for autofocus maybe an FX6 or C70?
I imagine you feel about this camera the way I feel about the FX3 it’s the first camera you truly fell in love with for cinema production and it will probably be your camera forever.
Ha! That's a nice way of putting it! It's definitely the camera that forced me to get better and more methodical at what I do
I've been using the Aggressive LUT religiously. I had no idea that the Nicest LUT was this nice as well!
Lo contrast fashion is also good!
YESSSS!!! The EVA 1 is Fuggin AMAZING!! COLOR LOOKS GREAT! Built like a TANK!! Lightweight!! Monitor is GARBAGE!! But everything else is Fuggin AWESOME!! I never understood why it wasn’t selling like hotcakes! It’s the sweet spot between the Varicam and the GH - Series.. A thousand thanks for this post!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Panasonic doesn’t get the credit it deserves.. 🙏🏾🙂
Haha no worries! Thanks for taking the time to watch it! Definitely another underrated camera from Panasonic!
Thank you for this review! I am a lumix s5 user and have looked into options for an A/B cam setup and this looks really great especially for the price as well! I have a DIY anamorphic set up so I was wondering are there any shooting options for the Eva1?
From what I remember the EVA1 doesn't have specific anamorphic options
@@EdProsser OK thank you!
Thanks for this. I recently invested in the the Sony ecosystem with the FX6 and A7iv and have been struggling with the decision to sell my EVA. Packed it up, only to unpack it. The camera still produces a stellar image that competes with more modern cameras. I just can't justifying selling it for 2 grand (as they are not going for much more these days). I prefer Panasonic's color science but the Sony has come a long way with s-log3 and with a little bit of post production work, I've been able to match between the 2 systems. Where the Sony has the major advantage is obviously with autofocus and the variable ND. Prior to the switch I never used autofocus and was hesitant to put my faith in it. But it's remarkably accurate and quite useful when conducting interviews or on a gimbal, especially as a solo shooter. But with that said, I don't think I can part with the EVA. I guess its true what they say about your first love. Can't let go.
Beautifully put! Yes just couldn't bring myself to sell mine, looked at the FX6 and looks like a fantastic cam, but all in all I didn't feel it offered the huge step up in image quality I was looking for, which is why I opted for the Komodo. Thanks for stopping by!
panasonic has to be working on a new cinema camera by now right?
who knows! It would certainly make sense to have a LUMIX branded one on the horizon and I seem to remember hearing Panasonic were working on some amazing 8K organic sensor - but I don't know how far away that is from being in a commercial product....
I guess Panasonic would need to produce their own sensor for a cine-cam line rather than relying on something from Sony?
There was that big misstep with the BG series of box cameras. Maybe the good hype around the new S5mk2 will convince them to get back in the game.
@@getfmlr do you think they were a misstep? My understanding is that they served a certain need for people wanting fixed cameras for events and live streaming etc.. I really liked the BS1H when I tried it out!
But yes, I'm really keen to see what else happens this year... With Panasonic releases ... Hopefully they were just waiting to nail the AF issue until they develop something a bit more chunky.
@@EdProsser maybe not on the technical front but to companies the only Metric that matters is sales numbers. So yes, in that regard it was a big misstep. I put it down to pricing because there were similar options at lower price points.
I myself picked up a ZCam.
hey, what's the song starting at 1:59 ??
Sorry haven't got back to you yet, it's from Epidemic sound, just need to find time to go back to the edit project from this and will let you know!
Hey man, awesome video! It's really inciteful and interesting to me some of points. I'm someone who actually recently purchases the eva used on ebay a couple months ago. I was introduced to it by someone who does a lot of corporate work that I've been assisting he's had his since the beginning. I definitely see it as a way to look way more professional with my own shoots. So far I've used my Eva for interviews and handheld in run and gun documentary setups. I also have the S5 and that's the two cameras I use. I do plan on getting the S5II because of it's autofocus. Although if they came out with a new EVA type camera with autofocus I probably wouldn't be as eager. The fact that the camera is basically manual focus only feels better to me, I've been using the 18-35 1.8 and a Helios 44-2. The part where you mentioned that the camera should be heavier is interesting to me, because I've been filming soccer tryouts/workout for a local soccer club with the eva handheld with the 18-35 with a small rig handle and a monitor attached to that handle and if I'm moving with the players I'm able to get usable stable footage just using the top handle. I know this comment has been all over the place. What would do if they came out with an update to the eva like same body but maybe newer features 6k and as good af as S5II? Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the comment and nice to hear about your EVA1 usage!
Weight wise, the Sigma art is pretty nice to shoot handheld and I guess it's at the wider end, esp if you're below 35mm, I definitely find focal lengths of 35+ benefit from weight.
Case in point with the Helios it's such a tiny lens on the EVA1 and you get a lot of movement if you're changing aperture / focus, u less you're using a follow focus.
If Panasonic brings out a new compact-cine cam I'd definitely look at it seriously, although I do have the Komodo now... But at some point I'll sell on my EVA1 and replace it with something else.
Yeap I was always tempted to get an Eva 1 particularly for their cheap 2nd hand price :) but I read somewhere from Panasonic that there won't be an Eva 1 as for them the s1h replaced it :( which I found super weird... The issue with people not getting it is the same issue all Panasonic are plagued with lately..you seriously have no idea if there will be a newer model later down the road. They seriously don't communicate at all.. even the varricams department is super quiet lol. Anyway great video, you put in a lot of hard work in it! Nice to see it's really close to a red komodo haha.
Yeah I think I remember reading that they're no longer supporting the Varicam / EVA1 line i.e. no new cams expected, but potentially LUMIX could deliver a compact-cine cam.
That clean look out of the Eva has such a high key commercial look. The only camera I've seen at this price point that can get that look is the C200 in raw.
yeah at the beginning it was almost "too clean" for some of my work - but easily mitigated with filters and in post.
@@EdProsser the Panasonic S1 was like that for me. I ran it with two blackmagics. It was so clean I had a hard time matching them in post.
My introduction to this camera was Christmas of 2015 I was given the gift of either renting this camera for the weekend to shoot a short film which was like $400 or get a dslr for similar cost. At the time I had no experience with manual cameras I knew about it from videos I saw online but never really had hands on experience with it so chose the DSLR and that was honestly one of the best choices because even though the image quality isn’t close to this camera it gave me time to play with exposure and shutter speed and understanding iso and aperture and everything instead of it being forced into 2-3 days. Since I now own several cinema cameras I always appreciate building that foundation back then which was important.
Yes for sure these cameras definitely have a learning curve!
I think this camera was released in the later part of '17
@@eyeballbilly it was but I didn't want to be a pedant 😂
@@EdProsser I picked mine up a year later and it got me thinking if the person had it mistaken for another Panasonic camera. In any case what are details really ???
@@eyeballbilly haha! Who knows! After the pandemic my sense of time has been totally messed up, but yeah I started shooting on the camera end of 17 / early 18 I think. I used it in house where I used to work as a part-time film maker and then picked one up myself!
Great video always been interested in these having owned an FS5 and a black magic it’s mini, love the look on the Panasonic and was always fond of my AF101.
Is the camera functional without the side hand grip? Looking at buying one but it doesn’t have the hand grip and I imagine buying one off Panasonic will be more expense than it’s worth.
Yes I rarely use the side grip when I'm rigging it up for shoulder work so all fine without it.
I remember the Af101, the camera I started out on!
Thanks for the quick response! I’d love them to do an updated af101 alas I think that ship has sailed.
Good to hear that about the grip especially with rigging up. Realised the camera I was looking at also doesn’t have the screen I assume that’s perhaps more annoying to be missing with it being a touch screen? I know a lot of people use external monitors anyway as the default monitor was lacking especially outdoors.
Nile Rogers, nice. Very good-looking work, too.
Thanks Leo - Yep this cam has met some interesting places and faces!
would you recommend this as someone's first cinema camera?
wouldn't work for a hiking gig, now would it :p?
I AM very fit and hiking with 24kg was a picknick (last time I went), and I would like to fondle around in the mountains, getting that absolute lovely cinema shot over there.
though, point for a new camera is shooting normal video gigs for money, of course.
Hmm I don't know, depends on their experience and budget. If you can afford something more modern maybe a better bet, but if you have the skills and are willing to work with this camera it can produce a beautiful image!
Personally I'm more willing to learn the proper cinema skills: focus myself and not use a gimbal. But I'm suspicious that what corporate gigs wants me to do is better suited with gimbals and very sharp image instead of cinematic image. And corporate gigs is what I will be hired for the next 6 months. I'm a graphic designer, pro photographer, with a healthy basis for video and editing skills that got hired for a mix of graphic, photo and the addition of video (40% or so they said). I'll be the in-house content creator, corporate design, jack of all trades (with a steep learning curve for video I suspect). @@EdProsser
I don't want to, but I'm afraid I need to go mirrorless, autofocus and with gimbal, because I expect that THEY expect me to point and shoot and have a sharp image without 'organic' shake. they probably don't care about colours much.
But if you did read this and hear a beginner videographer mistaken assumption, I'm all ears.
long term aim: that Panasonic cinema vibe that you manage to get (sorta, of course I'll learn to make my own version of it). short term aim: not fuck up this gig.
@@Markplaats-x1h the EVA1 is a very sharp camera I tend to soften it up a lot. But the S5 ii might be a better option for you! Check out my review or the S5 iix
Thanks for the video, Ed. I am SURPRISED that this video got so many views (and comments) since as you mentioned, the EVA1 is an older camera and it was probably never as popular as it should have been. There are so MANY good cameras on the market right now. I already own a Panasonic S1 and an S5 (original, not the new MK II). I have seen some pretty good prices on used GH6 bodies, too, and m43 lenses are cheap and plentiful. Tough trying to decide whether to add / update my S5 to an S5 II, or add an EVA1 or GH6. I assume the EVA1 has an AA filter on it, right?
It does have an OLPF I believe! Never had an issue with aliasing on it. Yeah seems like there is a lot of love for this camera out there!!
@@EdProsser Thank you for the reply, Ed. One more question: is there a significant difference between the dynamic range of the EVA1 and the S5 / S1 series of cameras? I know the sensor is larger on the S5 / S1, but for some reason I thought that the smaller sensor of the EVA1 has MORE dynamic range due to the implementation of the analogue-to-digital converter. (Oh, and if there is a significant difference in DR between the EVA1 and the Red Komodo, please let us know that, too.) Thanks in advance.
@@marin_real_estate_photography I don't know what the technical figures are to be honest, it's not really something I go super deep into, I'm sure you can Google them. In terms of my preference, I feel the Komodo has a lot more latitude and a more pleasing highlight roll off, just everything about it is very pleasing and the way it renders motion is just in a league of it's own.
The EVA1 has a nicer organic feel than the S5 which is over sharp in places and a bit more digital in my opinion. That's not to knock the little S5, what you get for the price and size of that camera is phenomenal and it also has a very nice highlight roll off. I just find the EVA1 renders skin tones a little nicer when side by side...
In terms of dynamic range it's a tricky one because they all require diff workflows in post so it's hard to compare them like for like... The S5 definitely has the most internal processing etc whereas the other two leave more of that for post.
Love the EVA1. Shot loads of stuff on it, including a feature.
I'm very fond of it too, can't bring myself to sell it!
I love your shots and grading. So cinematic.. Which Black Mist filter do you use? I perhaps Tiffen 1/4? I really like to know, your work inspires me alot!
Thanks! I think the pro mist I have is a Tiffen 1/4 black pro mist - am keen to try out some other diffusion filters and strengths though, especially Glimmer Glass.
@@EdProsser Cool, thanks for sharing/the tips!
Can you operate the menu with a third party monitor? I see you using the Blackmagic monitor, but I'm wondering if I can ditch the LCD and replace it completely with something third party? Obviously don't want to lose functionality, but this question isn't answered anywhere!
Yes you can display the menu on an external monitor - so can operate menu using camera controls
@EdProsser Ah but not control it even if the monitor is touch screen? It just seems like if this fairly flimsy and unpleasant monitor breaks, there isn't any great alternative to replace it with. Could put me off getting an Eva
@@purplemonkeyelephant it's fairly easy to control with camera controls on an external monitor, that's how I've used it and tend to leave the old monitor behind.
I see you have a DZO on your EVA. I just purchased one in EF and the focus is off. It dose focus past about 5 feet any thoughts on how to fix that?
When you say the focus is off, do you mean it's not matching the distance markings on the lens? Sounds like it might need to be shimmed
Finally decided to pick one up used for around $1200 usd. Couldn’t resist the deal! There’s this guy on TH-cam who is in antártica right now filming a documentary on a Sony fs7 with a 1,000,000 budget per episode. Convinced me the Eva was not too old or irrelevant. Excited to see what I’ll capture with it
Absolutely and the FS7 still kicks butt too! Good luck with it and let me know how you get on with it!
@@EdProsser thanks Ed, happy to finally be replacing my bs1h lol will pair the eva1 with my s1h & gh6. Excited is an understatement!
Have u tried the zcams? I would say the e2 s6 is a very interesting option similar to eva1
Haven't had a chance to use one yet, did consider them when upgrading from the EVA1 before I went with the Komodo but hard to get hold of one to test out
@EdProsser cool. I've used the s6 for 3 years now. Pretty nice for what it is (by no means perfect, audio is the biggest let down)
nice review. thanks for sharing.
My pleasure
What kind of devices can the EVA 1 record RAW into?
Atomos Nina V and BlackMagic Video Assist are two popular options.
I used mine to do 5.7k RAW over SDI to a Shogun 7.
You got a shot of Nile Rogers in a camera review - that's legendary!!!
Yeah I got to shoot his meltdown festival in London, so we shot a lot of little promo pieces and interviews and then the gigs with various bands (as well as a little trip to shoot at Abbey Road).
One of my friend had worked with that camera at office of the president of Rep. of Korea. so many footages were taken by the camera and even some footages were taken while sitting in a fighter jet, to make a PR video.
Ah not quite made it into a fighter jet yet! Fingers crossed haha!
Even though you like the standard Panasonic luts, I highly recommend you check out 55Media luts. He has several luts that match with Red ipp2 and the Alexa. Once you’ve tried them it’s hard to go back to Panasonic’s luts.
Thanks for the tip I will check them out. I'm woefully uneducated when it comes to LUTs and what's out there. A few companies have started sending me some to try so I'll likely do a round up video looking at them. Any others you recommend?
@@EdProsser When it comes to V-log these are the most populair. 55Media, Gamut, S1Alex. I got them all and prefer 55media personally.
There's also a new one from Joel Famularo who is know from from is Sony to Alexa conversions but I haven't tried them.
There's also Primers luts from Omeneo design. Seem very nice but haven't tried them yet.
@@Aviciiz I've got the gamut LUTs ideally I like something fairly neutral and to try dial in the creative myself... But maybe I just haven't found the right LUTs.
I'm probably going to pick up the Phantom LUTs for quick turn around Komodo work.
@@EdProsser Gamut is nice too, it's similar to the Nicest 709 lut. But I don't like how you have to expose brighter and how it handles colour. It lacks color separation in my opinion.
I might get Phantom luts too, interested in how it compares to 55media.
@@EdProsser This might be an interesting video: th-cam.com/video/fWzJG-822Iw/w-d-xo.html
The ef-mount is the biggest bummer for me, why didn't they made like the af100 and the JVC GY-LS300 and use an MFT mount, if they wanted to use a slr mount it would be better to be a PL mount
I guess if MFT it'd have to be a smaller / diff sensor. Pana were in a weird place as they didn't have their L-mount cams out yet - but I suppose made sense when looking at the competition and the market they were going for - EF was probably the dominant mount at the time. Most people who shot on the FS7 / FS5s and C100-300 were using EF glass. It is possible to convert it to PL but it's a bit of an involved process - perhaps they should have made the mount easier to swap out...
@@EdProsser the jvc gy-ls300 is a super35 camera with an mft mount thats why i mentioned her, i've seen eva1 conversion to PL but it just seems a pain in the ass to install
@@gusatvoschiavon interesting just looked the cam up! I guess it adjusts sensor crop depending on lens type.
Love our EVA1 !
Ohhh yeahh I remember this little guy. Being a huge Evangelion fan it was tough not buying a camera called Eva1
haha !
How many audio channels does it record?
2
@@EdProsser Thank you!
Great review! I'm tempted to get one today as the specs till hold up in 2024. If you were starting again in documentary, would you go for the EVA or a built up BS1H? The footage you're getting out of both is beautiful but obviously ergonomics are very different.
I would prefer the EVA1 to the BS1H I think
Secret EVA1 LCD trick. Set backlight to +1 in the menu. Bind custom button to the “Power LCD” option to double the brightness beyond that. (I use the slot select button).
I like using +1 NR on base 800. +2 on 2500. Shoot 2500 @ 1250 or 1600 for less noise on green screen shoots.
Nice I'll check the LCD tip out! Thanks for that and interesting to know your shoo/ ISO settings
Thanks for the Video! i really love the colour of the eva 1. I am thinking about buying one as my first professional camera, but i'm not sure about autofocus, because i'm a solo operator, where i have to pull focus on my own. Most of the time i film live concerts and wildlife. Is it better to get the FX6? I can get a EVA 1 with a Sigma 18-35mm for around 3000€ and I would have a lot of money left to buy accessories 😅 kinda hard decision
It's a difficult question! Have you tried either? You can get great results with both for sure, I think I still prefer the colour of the EVA1. The FX6 is slightly newer so has more versatile functions, it's FF rather than S35 and has amazing AF and a great electronic ND system. If you can find a used FX6 it could be a good bet, but I'd recommend trying both out and figuring out which you prefer.
@@EdProsser thanks for the answer. Sadly I haven‘t got any chance to test both of them, maybe I can rent them somewhere. I also do prefer the colour of the Eva 1😅 an Eva 2 with the new phase detection autofocus would be awesome, but I don‘t think we will get a Eva 2 in the future😅
@@Jake_203 I don't think so either. But maybe we'll get a LUMIX branded cine cam one day...
@@EdProsser maybe, would be cool to have a competition to the fx6 and c70. Do you find the lack of autofocus annoying on the Eva 1? Or is it hard to learn to manual focus? With my old Panasonic camcorder I used like 80% manual and 20% autofocus.
still an incredible camera, I neglected it a bit because it duplicated my red but it's great! the colors are top, the nd, the media which are inexpensive, the codecs (we often underestimate that but the sony A7SIII or canon R5 are disgusting). I still recommend it in 2023 for anyone who wants a camera under 4000 euro
For sure - I'm currently pairing it up with my Komodo and they match well on two cam shoots!
just picked up one for $1800 CDN 😛@@EdProsser
Thank you for this! Looking to rent this camera for a job next month. In your opinion would I be able to get away with the EVA’s lcd screen in an auditorium like environment or should I opt for an external monitor?
I mean I guess it depends what you're shooting, in terms of it being reflective, you should be fine, it's only outside that it's totally unusable.
I put up with it for about 6 months until I got an external monitor but I couldn't go back after getting one (were also not blessed with year long sunshine in the UK). If you're needing to pull focus a lot and your subject is not well lit then you might struggle, but using the punch in focus tool and focus peaking will help you.
I know budgets can limit things, but anything that is gonna improve your ability to capture consistent and reliable images is important!
@@EdProsser Thank you for the insight! Yeah we’ll be indoors for the whole shoot so I guess we should be fine. And hey, sometimes I’d like to trade in the sunny weather to get something a bit moodier lol
Another vote for this hugely underrated camera. I pair it with a Varicam LT and an S1H ( on a gimbal) all in vlog all match beautifully. Sadly it seems Panasonic are not supporting this sector any longer and have gone with the Producer Lumix range.
When the time comes to change all the cameras I will be changing manufacturer too.😢
I picked up a Komodo because of that, but decided to keep my EVA as still love it as an all in one solution and for when I have to send compressed media remotely. Perhaps we will see a LUMIX branded cine-cam one day ...
Panasonic colour science is second to none and it will be a shame to loose it. I think they lost the marketing fight with Sony and Canon. Once again it's not always the best technology that wins, although I would probably return to Canon over Red.
I still use the EVA-1 everyday. The company I work for bought it years ago and didn't upgrade it, yet.
I do miss fullframe though. And I feel like the camera needs a LOT of light to proper expose, that's annoying, especially when filming one-man.
I don't think it's anything out of the ordinary for a Super35 cine cam - as mentioned in the review - it takes a more paired back approach to noise - rather than smudging the image internally - so you do have to expose properly and give the sensor a decent amount of light - but you'd have to do that with an Alexa or RED too.
I am so amazed.
I'd love to see an iteration with the new AF in the S5 ii. I could see that being a game changer.
It really would!
Is the eva1 better than fx6 or FX7 ii ?
Depends what you mean by better? FX6 probably a smarter choice for a newer camera, but a lot more expensive. Personally I prefer the EVA1 over the FS7 II
@@EdProsser Do you prefer the EVA1
Over FX6? EVA1 is a nice looking camera
@@gurugamer8632 image wise I think the EVA1 is still a great looking camera, I'm not a huge fan of Sony's cams, but FX6 is still also an amazing camera. You can't go wrong with either and it's down to personal preference. EVA1 used is much cheaper, but FX6 has more modern features and autofocus.
damn this might be the perfect alternative for the Canon C200! the EVA1 is a bit more expensive but this is so much more versatile and you dont have to stick with huge Cinema RAW files! amazing ❤
Yeah it's great! Has a good range of internal codecs. Also they just gave it a new update out of the blue the other week which is totally weird!
@@EdProsserhaha that is crazy!
I was torn between the EVA1 and the FX6 a few years back. I always had canon lenses and I was currently and GH5S user. The EVA1 would have been perfect.
I took the plunge and bought the FX6, and it was a wise move. Just owning this camera got me a lot of work, especially when there was a chip shortage and these were rare.
The EVA1 is a great camera, but it sadly lost out to the other cameras.
Had the FX6 been out at the time I might have gone for that! But the EVA1 definitely served me well, no regrets on my side, never really lost a job because of it.
Found one for $1900. Should I go for it? Of course asking for fun, unless?
(1x Panasonic EVA1 body with screen and handle; 3x Swit S-8D58 battery; 1x Swit S8D68 battery; 1x Probty dual channel battery charger; 1x Vocas EVA1 handle to rosette adapter)
That's a great price! I can't make the decision for you though... if it'll be useful for your work, then consider it!
After watching this video again, I am considering adding the EVA to my Panasonic collection (S5ii, GH6, GH5S, GH5, HCX2000). It would be helpful if I can color match it to one or more of the cams I have now.
yeah you should definitely be able to to match it I used to shoot with a GH5 alongside this cam then upgraded to the S5 - I'd say the S5 & S5ii definitely have very close colour science to the EVA1.
Look out for greens. Panasonic Pro and LUMIX produce a very different tint on that color, so just keep that in mind when you want to color match and you should be good to go go 😉
@@marcodimartino2810 thanks for that tip!
This was groundbraking, well recieved and long waited at the time. Best Panasonic camera so far!
I think so!
I got rid of my EVA-1 and replaced it with 2 S5's. Made my life a whole lot easier and was more fitting to the work I mostly do.
What sort of work do you do? My only gripe about the S5 is how sharp they it is relative to the EVA1 - but of course you can mitigate that in post.
How did you get the more grunge and gritty look
Mostly working in resolve, pushing a darker image, adding grain and working with some form of film emulation
Own an EVA-1. Thanks for this. Thinking about selling it and go for the S5ii. What do you think?
Keep it my bro!! A cam b cam !! Please keep it and invest in the s5ii
I prefer the image from the EVA1 to the S5 and the S5ii has the same image quality to the mark 1. I also find it harder to shoot on the S5 form factor (need to rig it out) - so I think having them as a pair would cover all your shooting needs - if you can afford to have them both?!
if you need a small camera, the S5II can be nice! but the quality of the EVA1 is better
do you frequently conduct interviews while operating this camera? I'm just wondering if it has been a challenge keeping folks in focus while concentration on interviewing them - or do you typically hire another camera operator?
It's different for every project, I definitely used to do it more often, but nowadays I tend to work with an assistant.
But if I am, I tend to set a mid shot and keep a monitor in my hand and it tends to be fine to be honest. Definitely better to have someone monitoring and being able to concentrate on interviewing, or visa versa.
@@EdProsser Thanks for the response! Yeah, I have access to a FX6 and FX3 through my employer, but I'd like to have a personal camera for doing projects on the side without necessarily notifying the authorities - if you know what I mean :)
I'm kinda on the fence between the EVA or a C200.
C200 has benefit of autofocus - but I think the EVA1 has the edge on image and stronger internal codecs etc. I guess you can't really go wrong with either.
I've never really used an AF cam to be honest and probably wouldn't trust it if I was interviewing someone solo even on the FX6... as I can't monitor the image continuously to check it's doing it's job properly...
Generally I would stop down a bit and shoot a little wider if I were shooting solo.
I used this camera when shooting my first doc. I really loved the form factor and the 10 bit 4:2:2. It was so easy to grade in resolve. I do agree that the monitor is awful and it ruined some of my shots bc they were out of focus, but I guess that’s just a lesson learned haha. Overall a great camera though!
Yeah there's definitely a breaking in period where you figure out what sucks on a camera - definitely missed focused using that monitor too!
How did you find it for documentary work? What did you not like for doc work? What did you like?
I thought it was great all in one solution. With a beautiful image and skin tones and decent recording codecs and frame rates. Very lightweight for a solo operator and packs down to a small footprint.
The screen is awful but I always used an external monitor anyway, at times I found the camera to be too light so I had to add weight!
The side grip is a bit plasticy. The camera can take a bit of time to switch into slower frame rates which could be problematic if you're working quickly to capture something. Obviously no AF like on modern cams but again I manual focus.
You are one of, if not, the only videography youtuber whose footage actually looks good.
Thanks JC!
So the image quality really is higher quality than an S5 mk2 in prores raw or internal codec?
It depends what you're looking for... I think the EVA1 is more organic in look. The S5 MK2 is a modern camera with a few bells and whistles
@@EdProsser thanks for answer. The eva1 is really tempting now since it can be found in good state for around 1800 euros, with batteries... And I already have EF glass (8-16 sigma, 18-35 sigma, 70-200 canon f4 ... )
It's a really convenient package - as it's an all in one solution, lightweight and still has some strong recording codecs. The S5 IIx is still a great choice as well but you'll be paying more to gig it out to get it in the same shape as the EVA1. (batteries, rigging kit, audio solution etc ) just make sure you factor in an external monitor for the EVA1!
Did some test yesterday of S5 mkii in prores raw and APSC mode (4.1k50 c4k), treating the files with Neatvideo, damn that's good. It requires that extra step of noise reduction but the image is incredible.
Still tempted to test the eva1 but the 4k50 in 8bit only is hard...
How do you mean? The EVA1 can shoot 4k 50fps in 10bit
Just picked up an EVA1 yesterday...looking forward to seeing what it's capable of.
Woohoo! Have fun with it!
Thanks Ed
Image quality wise I love my EVA 01, however I've found it to be a fairly difficult camera to work with compared to some of the other cinema cams I use at work. I've had lots of issues with menu settings coming unstuck, for example recording xlr audio, then stopping down for a battery change to have the xlr swap off and needing to dig back through menus to turn them back on. (codec swaps happen like this for me quite often as well, not every time but often). I also wish it came in the box with a better viewfinder, replacing this with a good quality monitor makes the camera much better to work with. These days my S5 has become my daily driver and in almost every respect I'd reach for my s5 instead of the EVA 01. Still all quirks aside I still get good life out of my EVA 01 when I need a cine cam body companion for my S5. I'd honestly really like to see an EVA-02 with some of the quirks iorned out, an L mount to line up with panasonics other offerings, and maybe even the new panasonic auto focus system. Make it more of a parallel to the FX-6, if panasonic would get into that space I think they'd absolutely crush it in the indie film/documentary market. And again if you get past the quirks the sensor and the images coming out of this thing are awesome even five years later.
Yeah I mean no camera is perfect - but I generally got on with the EVA1. There is the quirk of setting your codec after changing frame rates - but once you remember that always happens then I was fine...
I think a 6K FX6 killer with the new AF - combined with a strategic release could be a massive success. I'd definitely have pounced on that!
Great video! What sort of filtration are you using ?
I tend to use a 1/4 pro mist (not always) but intend to try out some glimmer glass soon.
@@EdProsser very nice! I've been enjoying adding the PM to our komodo lately. Always been a fan of the EVA, a bit less popular here in in the states but many FS7 users converted when the camera was first announced.
The Eva and the C200 are really two of the most similar cameras I've ever looked at getting. I settled on the Canon but it was a tough choice.
yeah I heavily considered the C200 at the time, but the EVA1 ticked more of my boxes.
@@EdProsser I work with a guy who sucks at manual so I’m stuck. That C200 was a compromise.
BNC timecode is essential
Thanks for a perfect review video! It is rare to find on yt these days I feel :)
Quick question: I recently got a great deal on an eva1 and brought it home to use alongside my canon r5c.
Any advice on how best to colormatch the two?
Transform both to alexa colorspace and go from there?
Yeah you could do that! I think there's also a plugin called cine match? Which is designed just for that!
In the age of Blackmagic and Red's , Panasonic does it again! a perfect looking cine camera
It's a great lil cam!
Hey, what are your favorite lenses? :) Nice doc on the eva 1. Love panny
On the EVA1 the Sigma Art 18-35 was pretty popular with me and the Tamron 24-70
When/If a new EVA (L mount) comes out, I'm gonna be all over it!
I would have been if they had released one but I ended up going for the Komodo. I hope the LUMIX division of Panasonic bring out some sort of L-mount compact cine cam !
I love it so much!