Neighbors FINED $440,000 Dollars For Cutting Down Trees To Improve Their View
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These are the same kind of people who would raise holy hell if a neighbor got anywhere close to their property line.
You are sooooo right!!!! My neighbor cut down about 20 of our trees. He thought they were his. We had a survey done and that’s how we found out. No compensation, no new trees, he didn’t even apologize to me. One day I was walking about a foot from the property line (because he mowed over the property line) he called the police on me ……
@@Gtumrthsyour neighbor is a fucking wack job.
@@Gtumrths I borrowed a pin reader and found my lady friends' property line, and the nutcase neighbour yelling and screaming at her about THEIR border. Turns out the beams were on my friends' property! We didnt confront them, but told an old couple they talked to what we had found. They were out moving the beams that afternoon. Keep a file on those nuts. The house has sold five times quickly since my lady friend has passed on; my guess is the nutbar couple next door are the reason in most cases.
A construction company I worked for in the past leased a large lot of land from the city for a new storage yard/office. There were lots of old growth trees there and they were specifically told not to remove ANY trees. They removed something like 60 trees. The city found out and imposed fines close to a half million dollars as well as forcing them to replace the removed trees with juvenile/mature trees, not saplings. They learned their lesson the hard way.
Oh excellent. I was so sure you were going to say nobody penalized them because they were a company who contracted with the city. xxx See? Kisses, because I'm so relieved.
Awesome!
If they were Democrats they would have been praised for removing the solar and wind blocking trees.
I actually don’t believe the fines are steep enough. It’s disgusting how entitled people think they are.
I agree! I don’t think just the fine is sufficient. They completely altered a natural habitat, affected air quality and have endangered the stability of all structures based on that slope. Total disregard for everyone else’s health, safety and well being all for a view! Just move! Buy a home with a clear view.
people who cut these trees down should be made to replant 20 ft. trees in their place.
If the only penalty is a fine, then it's legal for rich folks.
@@kennethgilbertdds7249 agreed. they knew that this was possible. money and privilege the american way.
They don't give a shout as long as they get their way.
That takes nerve, you don’t destroy property that isn’t yours...agree 100% with the fine.
Hope no heavy rains and then mudslides. Maybe their homes?
I don't agree with the fines. It needs to be more. And forced to pay for replant and irrigation to get them established
It's good to see the government respects their greenbelt , unlike the premier of Ontario , Doug Ford who has rich corporate "friends" who are going to build a million houses on our greenbelt lands. Sadly , people with the big bucks will gladly pay to down the trees to watch some water.
@@mogyui2902 I don't think irrigation is an issue in Seattle.
@stoverboo ahh good. Fertilization then. And an arborist. Yeah 😆 either way ya don't cut down other folks trees
Years ago in Brisbane Australia, a family on Coronation Drive cut down several 30- 40 foot trees on the riverbank to get a better view. As well as the fines imposed, the council erected a huge 40 ft tall bill board, which explained it would stay in place until the newly planted saplings reached the same height as those cut down. It decimated the value of the property in the street, and was removed once the offenders sold up and left.
Damn Australians are on even more of a powertrip than Americans it sounds like.
I love Australians sometimes. What a great way to get back at those entitled people. That's what they should do in this case. A big sign saying, I was greedy and entitled, and now I'm paying the price.
You really have to love the Aussies for their ingenious sense of revenge.
POLO MARCO
And then they replace the sign, and the trees.
Without telling anybody, they would place surveillance cameras around to catch the person destroying public property, and then you end up nailed with a bigger fine, plus possible jail time.
Good luck with that 😂
POLO MARCO
Yeah, but the video isn't stored on site anymore, so the footage is safe.
Lol, concealed cameras are pretty cheap these days, too
Trees are the view. They also provide sound control, stabilize hillside from giving way, absorb city pollution and provide some privacy. Homes built near bare hillsides tend to suffer major foundation problems and occassionally collapse with an eroding hillside.
They weren’t blocking much they should have applied for them to be trimmed down
Here in Tucson Arizona they all want their trees cut down their yard so they can get a better view of the mountain
@@rosemaryjones5550 yep they could have had them do a height reduction
Yeah but sadly some people that are entitled don't care about that
They don't produce sound control ash any audio specialist. This is a complede misconception.
In some parts of Australia, people who cut down/poisoned trees also had huge billboards put up right across their view saying "These trees have been wilfully destroyed - council has a zero-tolerance on such actions". This damages their view and their property values much more than the trees did. It happened a couple of times, got in the news, then people stopped doing it because they knew they'd lose more than if they just left the trees alone.
I like this.....
LOVE it---replace the view of nice trees with an ugly billboard.
I love this!!! Absolutely needs to be implemented up here!
This is ANOTHER REASON to love Australians.
I'm happy to hear about the fine, if they wanted a better view the jerks should have bought a house with a better veiw.
Haha how do you think you get that “better view”?
I'd rather look at the trees not the city.
Daniel Worley that's exactly what I was thinking. Who wants a better view of an ugly city?
Daniel Worley dead right mate. It was a shitty view as well. Id much rather see some beautiful tree's and the wildlife that inhabits them
Right
You don't live there. They probably thought the trees belong to them, and didn't realise the city would be so vindictive.
The City government is enforcing THE LAW. Period.
"They thought"...Thats the excuse used by those who feel they are "entitled".
1.NOBODY has the right to cut down trees that do NOT BELONG TO THEM unless they get a permit.
2. Does no one remember what happens in winter rains in places like this?!? Landslides. Lots of dangerous, life and property threatening landslides. When you think of what it would cost to pay hospital bills (OR burial costs and law suit awards for public endangerment, loss of car, family members OR somebodies house downslope, costs to bring in crews and heavy equipment to clear a landslide off of a road and dig out anyone accidentally caught in said slide...This fine wouldn't begin to cover it.) This was not only theft and/or destruction of public property, but a thoughtless endangerment of other people's property, homes, lives, public roads, power poles/lines and whatever else because people with bucks felt entitled to a view.
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3. That’s too much money to charge someone for cutting down a tree. They’re rich so maybe that’s why they did it but someone like you or me cuts down a tree and gets caught our life is over
Just like the permits they got for the autonomous zone in Seattle, I’m sure they got the right permits
@@Great_Lakes_Discus Don't go on public land and cut down trees that keep the down slope community safe from landslide then.
@@Great_Lakes_Discus sorry, you have to hit psychopaths where it hurts. if they live where they do they have enough money. if you just give a psychopath a slap on the wrist they learn what they can get away with and will do it again. its a trademark of psychopaths to never ask permission but always ask forgiveness, then nice people forgive and the psychopath goes and does it again, they are dependent on other people's forgiveness to carry out their perversions.
Tree law is one of the last clear property rights subjects left in our legal system. The proceedings and penalties are fascinating
From what I have heard, Michigan has severe illegal tree cutting laws
Several years ago, I had land in East Northern Washington which was surrounded by State land. We came back to the property one year to find lands bordering our property to be completely clear cut. It was dreadful, to say the least at what loggers had done... but upon closer inspection, we discovered several old growth trees along the inside of our property lines had also been harvested. We learned that EACH tree (regardless of size) was worth $10,000 in civil fines against both the state and the logging company. In all, over 40 trees had either been harvested or damaged. We sued, and the State settled for an "undisclosed amount". Let's just say the number described in this video doesn't surprise me in the least.
I hope that does mean that those who cut down the old growth,still made a profit despite paying the fines. Oil companies pay fines all the time when they break the rules. But they just consider it part of doing business. It goes to show you some industries do what they want despite the rules.
After thinking about it, I'm actually in the cities side. The slopes are steep, the region is rainy, and there's a major highway at the bottom. If a landslide happens, because there's no trees to give support to the hill, causing the highway to be blocked off. Worst case scenario theres casualties involved. All for a better view. 😒
It's a developed nation. If the slop is in danger of a landslide it should be reinforced to say the least. Try driving through the rocky mountains you see all over slops all rock no trees and it's reinforced with netting and all sorts of stuff. A harsh penalty because the "trees prevent the whole slop from a landslide" is absurd and actually shows incompetence on part of the city.
I'm 100% with the landowners they paid a lot to get those houses with the views. They are just some damn trees a few feet from their backyard. The whole thing is absurd. This isn't a whole acre of trees being cut down. The whole thing is so absurd it's not even funny.
Trees ARE the reinforcement of dangerous hills, it's the cheapest and most effective way of securing a hillside.
Your view isn't a sodding right, so they can fuck right off.
Waterspouts - you know nothing of the area. It has landslides every year. These numb nuts decided their view was more important than the road below it - which they probably drive on daily. The trees are there to hold up the soil on the hillside. Divine justice would be for their section of the hill to slide and take their precious homes with it.
+Al Mcnutt Oh please. That's a load of crap. Secondly they are just some brush and small trees. We aren't talking redwoods or 100 year old oak trees. You americans are black and white and legalistic to a fault. It's exactly the reason why you are some of the most hated people in the world.
Waterspouts - you aren't even from here and you think you know all about the topography and the geology of the area? LOL I am from here, I've had to detour around landslides on that road, along with 25000 others per day. They cut trees not on their property to improve their view because they felt it was OK to trespass and destroy property that was not theirs. They thought the city would give them a small fine and they would have the view. I'm for the Brisbane Australia solution here - erect a barrier that keeps them from seeing the view until the replacement trees are back up to that height. Plus the fine.
I'm not typically this way but to hell with these people. They should be fined for this. I see it here in Montana as well with people who deem what they want as above everyone else. If it isn't your property then leave it alone. They cut the trees...they can pay the fine.
"If it isn't your property then leave it alone." That's the key. It's what most of us were taught when we were children. The report at 1:06 about the federal judge doing a similar misdeed . . . a federal judge who SHOULD understand such an act . . . wow. Stupid can be encountered at all levels.
When I was a kid, my parents had an over 80 yearold tree in their backyard. It was eventually cut down because it was old an interfering with overhead city wires, underground piping, etc. Even though it was on my parents' property, it was the City that had to yay or nay it by weighing the pros and cons of the tree being there.
That hillside was screwed after they did that. Most of that fine went to stabilizing the hillside. It would have taken a couple years but it would have turned into a slide
Personally, they should forfeit the property, and the profits from the sale goes to restoration, etc. Make them lose a lot of money AND take away their precious view.
There was a very similar problem,,in MOUNTAINSIDE NJ they cut trees on a lot ACROSS THE ROAD, so could see better , I know it went to court, do not know how it ended
Then there was a case in FLORIDA, they had the landscaper remove MANGROVE TREES for better view , the county came down on them, they HAD TO REPLANT THOSE ALSO ADDED TO THERE FINE THEY HAD TO ALSO PLANT 1000, NEW TREES , the cost was wonderful . Cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Clear cut 70 trees on public property? Wow. The unmitigated gall. They probably never thought they'd get caught, much less fined.
Curious as to whether they did it themselves, or called in a company to do it.
We had a case where a wealthy person built a house on a lake and cut down the trees between the house and the shore so they could have a better view of the lake. State law reqires the trees near the shore to remain and there is a $5000 fine for not following the regulation. The owner knew he was breaking the law and paid the fine without question, saying that it was just the cost of doing business.
That's the problem, I see $400K as devastating. If these people are uber wealthy, they would gladly pay that.
@@tomburns8441
Besides the minimum $400K, the means of the defendant should be taken into consideration . Some contries do this for fines, in that wealthy people pay much more for the same offense.
I remember when that judge cut down trees to get a better view. Entitlement at it’s finest. I’m glad they’re getting huge fines now.
Wow, I can't believe they thought they could just go out and do that! It makes me sick!
Rich people think they are entitled to do whatever they want, whenever they want, with zero consequences.
@@stoverboo: _Some_ of them seem to think that, yeah.
Let's put a giant billboard facing their houses with an ad for environmental conservation in the area they cut down
Or Preperation H billboards.
How about one that says that they are both thieving assholes, who stole from, and endangered, everyone in the community. 🤷♀️
Yep, they don’t own the trees they can’t cut them down. They deserve the fines.
Trees can slow down waters from swamping properties in their path, in the event of heavy rain. Trees help prevent soil erosion. Trees freshen the air, are lovely to look at. What were those stupid people thinking? .
Former Redsin owner Dan Snyder did the same thing at his Potomac river home to better clear the view of the river . First he asked and offered to pay $25,000 and they said no ,Then he cut down 130 trees and they fined him a paultry $34,000 and made him replant the trees as retribution .
Not nearly enough! They should go to jail for what they did. They are sickening humans. Entitled. The town should build a barrier to obstruct their precious view.
you can't go around and destroy public property. it's not yours to own or to destroy. if that's the case why not build your dream home in public park.
Not their property, they deserve the fine. Justice served.
I hope the public taught those home owners a REAL lesson and forced them to move.
be ironic if the pill side washed away in their homes went down the hell with it
'tree cutting vigilantes'
Worse gang name ever.
Band name
Ian MacDonald. Worst gang names. The dung throwers. The duh heads.
Tuesday night league Bowling team
Yeah bad analogy. They are the criminals, not the vigilantes.
The Green Space Choppers
Those trees prevent erosion on those slopes.
If the trees were that important for keeping those slopes from having a landslide they should already be reinforced.
Waterspouts of the Deep..... Do you not understand that the roots of living trees stabilize slopes?
+Spurious Effect I call bullshit. If the slop was that unstable it would be reinforced. I think you are talking about minor erosion that happens overtime. Because if the slop needed that much reinforcement then the city is highly negligent putting its population at risk like that. In Canada we have sheer slops with no trees and all rocks that have heavily reinforced through the rocky mountains to protect people traveling on the roads. Let me remind you these trees arent being pulled out, the roots are still there and they were wild in the first place meaning more will grow and many of those stumps can still be alive and grow shoots. Also it's largely brush that prevents erosion of slops not trees.
Waterspouts of the deep..... We aren't talking about slopes made of rock. We are talking about slopes that are prone to landslide without reinforcement. The trees are the reinforcement. Cut down the trees, the roots die, and a landslide may or may not happen, but if it does it costs millions to reinforce. Get it? Good.
+Spurious Effect Clearly you don't get it. Do you know what an argument is? If you think you just gave any valid ones aside from cost then you are seriously mistaken. The cost is irrelevant it's the governments obligation. Otherwise it wouldn't be lawful to build residences there if it was at such a risk.
This is an issue everywhere. There are other methods people use that cause the trees to fall over time. By the time someone figures out what’s going on the damage was done 2 years before and culprits are long since gone.
We had a guy in Poole overlooking the harbour that cut down a Scots pine that was on the protected list, £110,000 fine, upheld on appeal, serves the Pratt right.
Fine the hell out of them
Serve them right.
That fine isnt enough. Throw them in prison. Destruction of public property because they didnt like how it looked? Really? Throw them in prison auction off those homes.
In NSW Australia 🇦🇺 a hundred years ago a decent sized red cedar tree would fetch you around $60,000 thousand dollars. Now just like a Huon pine from Tasmania, you can’t find one for love or money. However lately we have similar problems sited near expensive realastates & 2:53 vistas of lake or shore. Which leads to the eternal question of the real price . These criminals should be made to pay 😢!
What makes someone think that they can just go cut down trees that are on somebody else property.?
My neighbor did this a few years ago. He thinks he is entitled to do EVERYTHING he wants. Is is now in trouble again by the HOA for different violations.
Entitlement.
i hope the city spends some of that money on even taller thicker trees where the previous ones were
Put up locust tree's. 6 times harder than oak.
And a 12 foot high ugly ass industrial fence to keep the chainsaw criminals at bay.
This is and has been done along the shoreline of the Great Lakes; people with million-dollar homes see no problem clear cutting the land so as to get a better view of the lake; entitled and disgusting to say the least! What's even sadder is the local authorities must be on the payout to allow this to happen.
Is it city, county or state land?
If it's the property owner trees, then it's their business, but that's crazy if it's not their property.
Trees are extremely important for keeping soil down, especially in steppe areas. It also protects against hurricanes because it blocks the wind force. That's why Haiti gets whalloped everytime a hurricane blows through.
damn now!....they knew they couldn't cut those trees!...good for their asses
I am so pleased.
Cutting down 70 trees on property that you do not own... I believe that the fine was insufficient. That is a major act of vandalism that goes far beyond any normal behavior.
My policy: You cut down my trees, I knockdown your house.
Hell yeah! About time. None of these "Cost of Doing Business " fines.
Jokes going to be on all the home owners when that hillside slides and all those homes go with it. Guess what their home owners Policy will not cover? Will full act of damage.
If the slopes are that prone to landslides it's the cities negligence for not already inspecting them and reinforcing the slopes to prevent it.
The trees do prevent it. Their roots stabilize the slope, naturally. Cut down the trees, destabilize the hillside, more than 440,000 to fix it with concrete.
WaterspoutsOfTheDeep - they did by not building on the land and not cutting them down. The city did their part.
Cutting the trees down, roots die the soil has nothing to hold on to down it comes.
Cutting down too many trees is why you need permission to build. If too many go away you destabilize the ground.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about look at what happened on highway 99 in the late 80’s early 90’s to an area just past Fremont. It now has apartment buildings in its place but it once had homes. Or look at what happened at carkeek Park around the mid to late 90’s. Where some people did the same thing and a mud slide happened.
Richard Carroll grass alone will not stop a landslide/mudslide. You need plants with deep enough roots that they penetrate the clay layer. Where I live hillsides on rainy years will colaspe taking grass and small vegetation with it. Only the hills with trees and shrubs as well as grass and small vegetation will stand up... If someone cut a large amount of trees n a single area we would absolutely have a destabilization issue.
The trees are downhill, dumbass.
This happened in the last 80’s and mid 90’s - before the building boom.
Trees cut along lake union and Karkeek Park. After a light rain there was a land slide. Blocked roads and the one at lake union took out homes. Now in the place of trees are apartment buildings.
Some person in Kinnelon NJ just the other day cut down 32 trees illegally on his neighbors property just so he could have a better view of Manhattan. Absolutely no regard for anyone except themselves.
so if you are super rich you can get away with cutting trees by paying fines, no they need to replace the trees
if they are super rich i dont think they care either way, but your attitude suggests your super poor...sorry..best of luck with that though..
@@gazzarafalemozzy4766 tell me you’re a low quality human without telling me you’re a low quality human
@@Rexluna1 i wouldnt waste my time telling you anything
@@gazzarafalemozzy4766 the ironic part of this is that…… you just did ahahahaha
Now make them go plant new trees ontop of the fine at their expense as well!
Trees will grow from the stumps that were left, Just leave them alone and let them grow on their own.
A total of 11 neighbors, and noone knew better not to take matters into their own hands? That is scary for that many families to be so stupid. Forest Gump's mother was right: stupid is as stupid does.
The city should put up a billboard to block their view out of spite
Lol this reminds me of an idiot neighbor that cut down several old growth trees behind her house and bragged about it. I said "aren't those trees holding back the hill from sliding down? " And she looked at me like I was an idiot. Not exaggerating, literally one year later after a heavy rain a massive mud slide came down the hill just about to her back door. Her yard was torn apart by all the heavy equipment needed to dig out the back of her house/yard. I don't even want to guess how expensive it was. Still bragging about how you made more yard for yourself by cutting back the woodline on a hill? 😂
How STUPID! And way to go to the Judge.
Let this be a lesson, next time use a match.
Buck ey
Yep, arson is the answer🤦♂️
Yes. Stupid to remove the trees.
Pacific NW folks take their trees seriously so pay attention, you out of staters.
hey, we all do
Tree huggers
thank u....happy 4th !
They cut down the trees without thought of the fact that they hold the soil in place for everyone who lives below them or prevents land slippage onto roads below them. Oh well, at least they have a goid view and don't have to worry about mud and trees slipping into in their yard.
Some people may think the punishment was to harsh and, if you don't believe that its a safety thing. A company cut a bunch of trees on a hill like that one because they decided to do t work before there was an agreement, then they'd _have_ to be paid. While the famiy fought them in court, a mudslide caused by the trees being cut down blocked the river...which was the towns main water source. The company ended up paying millions in damages before going bankrupt, and the lawyer that was helping the family, also happened to be the city's lawyer. The company's owner had to pay to replace their trees and repair the damage from the mudslide which took half their back yard with it.
Yet large corporations still dump toxic with minimal fines
lol
optimumperformance
The two things are similar. Corporations think the rules do not apply to them and only what they want matters. These people appear to feel the same way. Less damage, but selfishness...
but you still buy all their products lmao keep whining
LOL The EPA Dumped Millions Of Gallons into a river and no one even got fined a nickel. Granted this was a pretty lame ass move, but before you laude this harsh fine ask yourself are 70, 6” trees irreplaceable, or $5,714 per tree. It seems like they wanted to make an example which can always one goal of punishment for crime. But it also seems excessive. My bet is it was personal on some level.
@@MrOramato Or the stupid people got fined because what they did was WRONG. Either way no matter how you look at it, both are wrong. It's harsh and excessive only if you think you are entitled.
if you own it..cut it.if you don't own it....don't cut it.easy...
They live in the mountains, but *WANTED* a view of the city? 😳 **scratches head**
When the inevitable landslide occurs, let the entitled landowners who chopped down those trees pay for the cleaning of said roads covered and pay for the additional damages caused by those landslides, then make it as public as possible then see how many wants to do that again. Pinch the pocket, make a mark.
If the trees are on their property they should be able to do as they please. If not their property they should pay pay pay.
Is it a state law that requires the permission from the local government.
kragseven yeah, fuck everything about that
true
jerry irvin You don't own your property though. Can't put cars on your lawn can't do lots of things on your own property in city or any place.
jerry irvin it was city property nowhere near their property
The fine is incredible and justified
They cut down trees that weren't on their own property? That was stupid.
In addition to what everyone else in the thread is saying, I can't imagine how many wild animals were killed during this BS. My brother was a tree cutter and had to quit because he couldn't take all the baby (and grown ) squirrels, birds, opossums and raccoons he saw killed everyday.
Some people just don't understand the natural world. Stop cutting down everything.
Good job !
I bought some land to build a home for my family on. It had a copse of about 30 small trees one boundary. I went one morning and all the trees were cut down. I spoke with an old guy who owned the neighbouring property and he said he did it. I couldn't believe it. If I'd know the trouble this guy was to give me I'd have called the Police. In the end I built my home and then (despite his objection) I got permission to build a house on the land the trees were on.
What makes this worse is they just left the downed trees to act as dry kindling if there is ever a problem.
It will be funny when there house slides down the hill because the trees that stops erosion is gone !!!
They should have at least looked into it with the city first to see if they could have permission. Obviously, they wouldn't have gotten their wishes, but it would have saved them huge bucks! But who knows? In a different scenario, some city elsewhere may say it was OK and designate what trees would be allowed to cut down as long as the owners paid for it. Best to inquire before taking on any action.
My home is a town home, so it shares one wall with the neighbors. They moved in about one year ago. They have two boys that trash the trees in the neighborhood by pulling on the branches, ripping the leaves off, over and over, leaving a mess of leaves and sticks on the floor. They shoved a large stick into the bush in front of my window and left it there and the mom stands there not caring. And that's just in the common areas. All the home owners have to pay $300 a month in HOA dues to maintain the common areas that we all share a part in, that includes bush trimmings, new plants, irrigation, cutting the grass, leaf blowing, edging, and that's just landscaping, there's also the community pool that is maintained. But anyway, I don't think the renters pay HOA dues. HOA fees are the owner's responsibility. So these renters have no regard for the amount of work and money it takes to maintain the community.
I'll tell you something really bothersome. I have a fully mature lemon tree in my backyard. Over many years, the branches grew long and dangled over the property line, over the fence. The owner next door didn't mind the dangling branches so there they remained. When we met the new neighbors (the renters), we told them they can take whatever lemons are on their side. Then one day, as I'm passing by the window in my house, I see my tree being violently yanked. So I tell the children over the fence to twist the lemons off, not to pull on it. The way the kids were pulling on it looked like they were playing a tug of war. Time passed and I am sitting at my kitchen table looking out my window at the lemon tree hoping to see a hummingbird on my humming bird feeder, and that's when I notice the rude aunt of the two boys reaching over the fence into my yard plucking lemons. That wasn't part of the deal. She reached so far in I saw the side of her face. She must have stood on something to reach over and into my tree because my yard is much higher than theirs. Their yard sits at a much lower elevation.
Then the straw that broke the camel's back. Yesterday, those kids do it again, they are pulling the lemon tree branches down into their yard, shaking the entire tree. So I look over the fence and see the two boys, the grandmother, and their aunt this time. I ask them to please not to pull on the branches, please twist the lemons. The aunt was rude, she scowled at me and ignored me. Then the kids said "yeah yeah we know, twist" in a mocking tone. And the grandmother holding a big bowl of lemons just smiled and said something in Hindu (because they are Indian), but she eventually acknowledged what I said. After that, she continued to pull the branches down and twisted the lemons.
For the rest of the day it bothered me. I offer my lemons which grow in abundance on their side because of the long dangling branches, yet the boys are destructive, I've told them nicely, and their aunt that's staying with the renters is totally rude yet she thinks she's intitled to my lemons over the fence from my property.
So I start reading about property line laws and trees. I find out that if this is brought up to the HOA, then they would write a citation to the home owner. I wouldn't want that because I know the owner and her daughter, I have their numbers. If it escalated, the owner might ask me to cut my tree to the property boundary line, and if I didn't comply, they would do it. All these options stirred in mind until I discovered that the long dangling branches should be pruned, all the energy and nutrients that the tree absorbs are going towards those dangling tree limbs where clusters of fruit are instead of producing more foliage and branches in the rest of the tree! Pruning those long dangling tree limbs was what I should have done a long time ago. And the time to prune was now! It must be after winter but before summer (spring). So immediately after reading how to prune at 2am while everyone was asleep, I decided to prune all the branches that hung over the property line and the entire time I felt great because this is so beneficial for my tree! Plus those kids won't be able to reach the branches to pull on anymore! As I look out my window at my tree, I see it looks more balanced, it's planted far enough away from the fence so the tree doesn't look like its missing a chunk. It looks great. And to be honest, it never felt right allowing my tree to intrude into someone else's property. I only let the tree branches dangle because I thought the neighbor (Owner) might see it as rude to take it away, but when she moved out she told me she doesn't even like lemons 🤣. I hope the neighbors (renters) get the hint that my lemon offer does not stand anymore.
I'm also on the side of the city. People with a lot of money think they have a right to do what ever they want. Especially when it comes to their entertainment and other devices.
What kind of dumb ass property owner cuts down trees not on his land!! Total dumb asses!!
We sold a tree for 15k and to move it and all it cost the guy 23k yea trees are expensive and if there big even more
Owned a home in a green belt area for six years. You do NOT mess with the vegetation, drainage, wildlife or trees at any level unless you want to get fines like this. You always touch base with your zoning or land use folks before-hand. If you hire a licensed tree company, they are supposed to have this knowledge, but if they don't, the homeowner will still be blamed.
Don't like the strictures? Move somewhere else.
I had neighbors cut a tree in my inner city back yard, so his wife would get sun in the evenig. I made him stop and clean it up, he thought the city owned it... But he had watched me mow it every week.
should of known better when u bought the house!
jarhead0754 cause trees don’t grow 🙄
The moral of this story appears to be that if you rat out your neighbors you could save some money and possible jail time.
i bet they're very popular with their neighbors now
rats or not give everyone the max fine you can. you're not exempt for being such morons.
Why did these homeowners believe that had the right to go off their property and cut trees that weren’t theirs?
Entitlement is the hallmark of rich people.
Trees help maintain and keep the ground soil together during heavy rains;
i wonder what the neighbor think of you now..
Wow, $220,000 is a lot for killing a few trees. Imagine the fine if someone were to kill their own unborn child.
Considering the trees aren't dead, it is an unreasonable fine. You can clearly see trees which had been cut earlier, and have tons of outgrowth from the stumps. But, with this being at least a second time occurrence, the city dropped the hammer on them hard to get the message through.
YOU ARE A sooo stupid Trees are needed to live! An unborn child belongs to the mother only! it is her body dumbass!
We need trees. We do not need unwanted children in the world.
Ron H. Yeah, its nutty to not want babies killed isn’t it? How dare they!
@Terri Freeman What is the difference between you and this "clump of cells" ? Aren't you just a clump of cells?
Are you some kind of religious fruitcake? I am using science to support my position, you are using religion. Science proves a new unique human life starts at conception.
This happened in MN in one of the city parks in Minneapolis. I don't remember what the fine was but it was steep and punative.
Trees lives matter.🌎
When you feel you are so privileged to get what you want and get what you deserve.😬😠
A lot of tree haters making comments. What do you guys have against trees and the idea of public wild spaces?
tek i have wild spaces---front & back yard
Finally! Thank you, Mother! 🌎❤️👍🏼
Woo thank you I never knew that trees help clean the air and stop soil erosion :o
ridiculous
Cant the city have kept these trees trimmed to keep property prices up? Tax payers being owned by the tax man.
Why would you make taxpayers pay for someone else's property value. They chose to build/buy their house there knowing full well that there were trees.
I cant imagine they cut those trees down by themselves, they likely hired a service. Any service that cuts down any tree with out CLEAR verification of OWNERSHIP/RIGHTS is ALSO LIABLE. Services would START checking these things FIRST if they were held responsible financially for the damage... take out the ones doing the damage and the trees dont get cut.
The top of the list of offences for me boils down to the words LAND SLIDE.
And it looks like they left all that wood to rot as well.
I wish you would all lighten up the trees were only pollarded not killed .
You'll never understand with that statement!
What penalty did the Judge get???
That fine should be double.. take a lien on those houses.
I think it was not emphasized well enough. The reporter's final,,, "and they help hold up these steeper slopes." The trees do much more than 'help'. Without the trees the slopes WILL slide down onto the highway. Trees are essential for holding a slope in place. Annnnd unmentioned,, the other price that will be paid by the homeowners,,, noise. Highway? Trees absorb tremendous amounts of noise. Sooo,, 440,000 dollars, a better view, and lots of highway noise. Sounds like a dumb bargain to me.
Lesson here: anonymously pay someone in cash to cut down that shit for you and deny having anything to do with it when accused. Or, have someone in your family who does not live there do it under cover of darkness with lookouts. Use an electric, battery powered chainsaw for quick get-away and less noise.
Are you really that fucking stupid? It wouldn't take a genius to know who cut them down.
Jewell Ashley so you f bomb him right off the rip? Yeah you're a liberal. Got the triggered rage going.
Next tiem, just start a fire .
Professor..... learn to spell. idiot.
The professor fate you are a first class idiot.Thjose tree were city property.on a hill owned by the city.these idiots cut them down.because they wanted a better view of the city.Classic case of a asefish motive.
TheProfessor Fate In your neighborhood ...
ur dumber than the other fker
u must be one of the perps.. waterspook
i can't get over the fact that people can be this selfish.
Was anyone hired to cut the trees? Should there be fines as well for tree service businesses that did the cutting? I think so. Good for Seattle!!!