You don't show Myanmar in INDIA 🇮🇳 In 1937 Myanmar was separated from INDIA 🇮🇳 by Britishers... 1873-afganistan 1904&06-nepal and Bhutan 1932-srilanka 1937-myanmar 1947-pakistan and Bangladesh Uk divides INDIA 🇮🇳...
In the US, India’s history is very overlooked. The Chola Empire, one of the richest and longest lasting trading kingdoms in human history, gets less teaching time in world history classes than Henry VIII of England, a single ruler who was king of a country of only about 5 million at the time. I wouldn’t know any Indian history outside of the Maurya, Gupta, Chola, Mughal, and British empires if it weren’t for this channel. Thank you, and I hope history isn’t taught with as much eurocentrism in the future.
@@rossevanricamara4169 then why am I taught extensively about European history, including details about the Romans, the HRE, Charlemagne, the 30 Years’ War, the migration period, the Byzantine conquests of Italy, enlightened despotism, etc? Those things have nothing to do with American history, yet European history takes up more than half of our world history classes while India is always a sidenote.
Bro as an Indian, I feel that you are way too OP. I remember studying history of my country and it felt like burden/useless subject because of the way textbooks are style/designed/written. But you made it really interesting, and I feel teachers could also use it to create a positive interest in the subject. I have a feeling buddy you will go a long way...... and best of luck buddy!!!
You felt burdened because the Central and most of the State boards have continued the British Colonial history and Bharat's history is extensively written in syllabus only about the events after 12th Century. It's like India existed before 12th Century and that's it. We had just a glimse of Queen Lakshmibai's life story and just a little info on Maratha Empire that caused the downfall of Mughals by the end of 17th and 18th centuries. Thanks to free flow of information now, I came to understand that the nonsensical AIT concept was also a Colonial British ploy used back in those days and still is taught in schools poisoning young minds, though there is no solid proof to prove AIT. The Britishers were replaced by Indian top Elite, that's it. The ways they followed to govern this diverse country have their origins from the Colonial times. It's only since from early 1990's that a new political thought and to unshackle ourselves from this mind control has started. I'm glad that 1991 happened in Bharat's history!
@@OddCompass consider making a video on indian maths and astronomy. Trust me you will be surprised to see just how much india has contributed to the world of maths and the influence it had on the arabic maths which was responsible for the intellectual re awakening of europe. Here are a few hindu mathematicians you might want to start with brahmagupta, aryabhat, madhava of Sangamagrama, Bhāskara I, Varāhamihira, and so many more. Another interesting topic worth making a video on could be the development of medicine in india. Most indians have this misconception that science, maths, rationality and medicine are purely european inventions whereas that certainly is not the case, not trying to disrespect or discredit european thinkers, i respect all those who have contributed towards the progress of mankind equally but unlike their european counter parts hindu intellectuals are barely known among the general public.
I love how you focus on the not-so-known history of India and Southeast Asia as well. I've always wondered about the cultural similarities between India and Southeast Asian countries (especially Thailand), and "now I know" why. :)
Thailand got Indian influence from Cambodia. The area already had Indian influence there before the Thai people immigrated to Southeast Asia from China.
@@OddCompass please post vedio's on pandyas and other south Indian empires.also please make detailed vedio's of the large empire's like cholas.From their first appearance to their end
I'm delighted to learn about all these things, most of us just think of British and mughals when they think about Indian history, no one to blame except our textbook writers
The Bad news 📰 here is School 🏫 textbooks 📚 are in practice NOT made for learning but for purposes of propaganda; to mold “factory workers” but not citizens with responsibilities and aspirations I feel so sad 😞 whenever I hear such news 📰 parts of history that are NEGLECTED for the self interests of the powerful people As if hearing about-neglected history-from Indians themselves to their discontent about The Histories of South and Northeast India 🇮🇳 is already bad enough (looks like other countries have a similar problem as ours and it’s NOT a good thing, I also came to know one example from a Malaysian 🇲🇾 commenter on this channel that parts of their history are being neglected like the existence of the Langkasuka Kingdom, part of Malaysia’s Pre-Islamic History) not to make an insensitive comparison here, but I am only speaking from my experiences being born and raised in SEAsia-in a region that prioritizes producing cheap labor to export out of the country (why do you think we’re “everywhere” but not much good media coverage) instead of molding future responsible Citizens to contribute to nation building, point is my country 🇵🇭 had it WORSE when it comes to neglect of (Pre-colonial history) History subject in school 🏫 which basically goes like this in Elementary and High-school level: •Fast forward with outdated details about Early human migrations and some basics like the Barangay unit--WITHOUT going into detail the many Kingdoms and recorded peoples that used to exist here, along side their foreign relations with nearby neighbors and faraway places who also contributed to the enrichment of Ancient Filipino culture and especially of their achievements like a lot of Gold-work used in everyday things, gold thread 🧵 weaving, jewelry (ritual, religious, ornamental), ceremonial weapons, sculptures made of Gold (Golden Tara of Agusan), strong maritime cultural tradition and a whole lot more--and of the balangays (small support boats for bigger ships) that were used to transport peoples and goods •Some foggy 🌫 details about the Early 1521 and Late 1898 Spanish 🇪🇸 period and contributions with one sided POV for needless vivification, real thing is a lot more nuanced but they brought some good and bad (guess who wrote the History books 📚 from our “DepEd”) •American Period Featuring Slightly more cherry picked details (while omitting the unsavory essentials) to highlight needless romanticization of USA 🇺🇸 with the real thing being a lot more nuanced but has wrought a lot more damage to the psyche of the “Filipino people” like indebting Filipino businesses, manpower, military and political needs to making Philippines 🇵🇭 develop an unhealthy dependency on USA 🇺🇸 like the “Bell Trade Act” in a series of unfair treaties and strings attached political machinations And that is just some awful truths that have to come out because there’s more to be exposed
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 It’s ok and thank you for reading 📖 my comment that expresses my frustrations with the shitty Education system in Philippines 🇵🇭 I know this because I went through it; by further propagating the colonial narrative (of the 🇺🇸 92% consistent admiration worldwide REALLY!? that’s so fucking embarrassing 🤦🏽♀️ Your Historical and Cultural Amnesia is showing Philippines 🇵🇭) that should have been changed a long time ago after independence, the interests of the self serving manipulative powerful people will only go on to be a living reality UNLESS adequate quality Education for the common people by the people is happening on a National scale and one that encourages National fraternity among the citizens of a nation wether it’s a homogeneous or Multi-ethnic Nation You said it yourself that your History lessons in school 🏫 are bad right? whatever it is for your country of origin, that problem has to be addressed by a Nation’s people to consolidate and preserve their own cultures to avoid Historical distortions by foreign and local propaganda
I was always curious why here (Luzon, Philippines) had a large indian influence. One of our earliest forms of written writing was in sanskrit (Laguna Copperplate). Thanks for shedding light on us SEAns who don’t know even our own history :3
Satuito James pls read the following, it might shed light on WHY we need to learn more: The Bad news 📰 here is School 🏫 textbooks 📚 are in practice NOT made for learning but for purposes of propaganda; to mold “factory workers” but not citizens with responsibilities and aspirations I feel so sad 😞 whenever I hear such news 📰 parts of history that are NEGLECTED for the self interests of the powerful people As if hearing about-neglected history-from Indians themselves to their discontent about The Histories of South and Northeast India 🇮🇳 is already bad enough (looks like other countries have a similar problem as ours and it’s NOT a good thing, I also came to know one example from a Malaysian 🇲🇾 commenter on this channel that parts of their history are being neglected like the existence of the Langkasuka Kingdom, part of Malaysia’s Pre-Islamic History) not to make an insensitive comparison here, but I am only speaking from my experiences being born and raised in SEAsia-in a region that prioritizes producing cheap labor to export out of the country (why do you think we’re “everywhere” but not much good media coverage) instead of molding future responsible Citizens to contribute to nation building, point is my country 🇵🇭 had it WORSE when it comes to neglect of (Pre-colonial history) History subject in school 🏫 which basically goes like this in Elementary and High-school level: •Fast forward with outdated details about Early human migrations and some basics like the Barangay unit--WITHOUT going into detail the many Kingdoms and recorded peoples that used to exist here, along side their foreign relations with nearby neighbors and faraway places who also contributed to the enrichment of Ancient Filipino culture and especially of their achievements like a lot of Gold-work used in everyday things, gold thread 🧵 weaving, jewelry (ritual, religious, ornamental), ceremonial weapons, sculptures made of Gold (Golden Tara of Agusan), strong maritime cultural tradition and a whole lot more--and of the balangays (small support boats for bigger ships) that were used to transport peoples and goods •Some foggy 🌫 details about the Early 1521 and Late 1898 Spanish 🇪🇸 period and contributions with one sided POV for needless vivification, real thing is a lot more nuanced but they brought some good and bad (guess who wrote the History books 📚 from our “DepEd”) •American Period Featuring Slightly more cherry picked details (while omitting the unsavory essentials) to highlight needless romanticization of USA 🇺🇸 with the real thing being a lot more nuanced but has wrought a lot more damage to the psyche of the “Filipino people” like indebting Filipino businesses, manpower, military and political needs to making Philippines 🇵🇭 develop an unhealthy dependency on USA 🇺🇸 like the “Bell Trade Act” in a series of unfair treaties and strings attached political machinations And that is just some awful truths that have to come out because there’s more to be exposed
laguna copperplate isnt written in sanskrit. its written in old malay using the kawi script which is what influenced the different baybayin scripts. kawi script descends from pallava script in india
There is festival in Odisha called Bali Jatra. It started as a celebration of time when oriya merchants and people went to Indonesia and Sri Lanka using the winds patterns. It is held in Karthik purnima.
Good video. I like that you focus on South Asian history, most of us don't know about our own region Edit: So India has pretty much influenced countries of South East and East Asia
With in the established history yes, but if you listen to the work for people like Nilesh oak, Raj Vedam, Sanjeev Sanyal and others, its clear that Indic Civilization influenced almost all of the Eurasia.
the moment I saw the notification, I knew I was gonna learn more about my Tamil people history, A history which has been neglected and many times tried to be deleted from the history, thanks to the channel for letting the people to know about the significance of South Indian Kingdoms keep it up guys
Aww 😊 that’s sad to hear because the more I know about both North and South India 🇮🇳 and their respective contributions to my country 🇵🇭, the more interested I am in studying 📖 their History and Cultures to better understand them For example: The Tagalog word “Puto” (ᜉ̰ᜆ̥) contrary to first assumptions did NOT come from the Spanish “puto-asshole” even though I am not denying their legacy but rather it came from the Tamil word “Puttu-a kind of Rice cake 🧁 🍚” mind you, there’s regional varieties of the same dessert 🧁 🍨 🍮 in SEAsia under different names
@@udhayakumarMN There’s another Indian dessert that I’ve seen (that also reminds me of Tagalog Puto) other than Tamil Puttu of Kerala that makes my mouth 👄 watery whenever I think about it, I forgot it’s name but I remember what it looked like (this dessert 🧁 🍚 is located in West Bengal)
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 yes, Indian cuisine has had influences on Filipino cuisine. And many other influences, like establishing the rajahnate of Cebu by a half Indian king, Buddhism and Hinduism being the dominant religion (mixed with folk religion of the Phillipines) before the Spanish came( you can find many archeological proofs for it especially in Mindanao and other souther parts of Phillipines). Also many words in different languages of Phillipines are from sanskrit: rajah, guro(guru in sanskrit), dukha, mukha(I was surprised to hear this from a Filipina! And then I researched why her language had the same word as Indian languages and I came to know about all this history), etc. There are many other words but it would make this comment too long haha
Fun fact: European colonization also began in a similar fashion to Ming interferences in Kerala politics. One of the first political steps taken by the Portuguese in India was to support Kochi gain full independence from Kozhikode. It was in fact the Portuguese who crowned the ruler of Kochi, breaking his fielty to the Samudri of Kozhikode.
2:24 Kalinga coast in India 🇮🇳-that reminds me of something, we have a province in Philippines 🇵🇭 called Kalinga in the Cordillera region I am not saying this for attention grabbing but rather, the more I listen👂🏽to the Indian languages, there are more words that sound familiar to me, some words that I remember we still use coming from-experience-here, I used a list to keep track but the words listed here I am very sure are still in use: In Tagalog from Tamil or via Malay or Javanese (sources vary): Bagay-Vagai Baril-Vedil Billango-Vilangu Gulay-Kulai Kawal-Kaval Kawali-Kuvalai Kiyapo-Kayapuu Mangga-Mangai Malunggay-Murungai Puto-Puttu Tupa-Attu patti In Tagalog from Sanskrit or via Malay or Javanese (sources vary): Agham-Agama Antala-Antara Asal-Acara Bahala-Bhara Balita-Varta Bansa-Vamsa Banyaga-Vanjaka Basa-Vaca Bathala-Batthara Bihasa-Abhyasa Budhi-Bodhi Daya-Dvaya Diwa-Jiwa Diwata-Devata Dukha-Dukkha Dusa-Dosa Ganda-Gandha Guro-Guru Halaga-Argha Halata-Arthaya Hina-Hina Hiwaga-Vihaga Katha-Katha Kalapati-Parapatah Kuba-Kubja Kuta-Kota Rajah-Rajah Lagundi-Nirgundi Laho-Rahu Lasa-Rasa Likha-Lekha Luksa-Leksa Madla-Mandala (a kind of kingdom defined by it’s Center) Maharlika-Maharddika Mukha-Mukha Mula-Mula Paksa-Paksha Palibasa-Paribasa Patola-Patola Saksi-Saksin Sakuna-Zakuna Salamuha-Samuha Salanta-Randa Salita-Carita Samantala-Samantara Sampalataya-Sampratyaya Sandata-Samyatta Sigla-Sighra Suka-Chuka Tala-Tara Tsampaka-Campaka Upang-Upa Makes you think what kind of interactions happened here a LONG time ago
@@Abhishek-sr2pu In Odisha,the culture of sailing boats on river on 'Karthik purnima' also symbolic of merchant of Odisha making sea voyages..... ??? What do u think bro
Philippines before colonisation had hindu Buddhists people while some adopted islam that's why you see many similarities. There are many famous hindu Buddhist Kingdom of philipines but coloniser tried to erase it all
@@ShubhamMishrabro If Indonesia 🇮🇩 has plenty of major and minor Mandalas, who’s to say that it’s northern neighbor doesn’t? In fact Philippines 🇵🇭 also has plentiful Mandalas too with “changing boarders” reflecting a Mandala’s sphere of influence because a Mandala is defined by it’s center, operating like our Solar System with the Sun 🌞 at the center and the 8-9 planets 🌏 🪐 surrounding the Sun and are moving in circles around the sun. Likewise, the planets that surround the sun are also the center of their own sphere with their respective moons 🌝 🌚 surrounding their planet’s and are also constantly moving in circles, the smaller the planet 🌏 the fewer the moons, but the bigger the planet 🪐 the more moons it has. That is How a Mandala actually operates, influencing each other while maintaining their precious autonomy within it’s alliance network. Rulers of a Mandala often intermarry with other Mandalas that they are allied with to protect and sustain their own interests and ambitions in within their sphere of influence. There’s plenty more but some of the more documented Indianized principalities are: Lakanate of Tondo/Tundun in Luzon Rajahnate of Cebu/Sugbu in Visayas Rajahnate of Butuan/But-wan in Mindanao There’s ancient works of gold that were recovered in Philippines 🇵🇭 too many of these works of gold shows familiarity with Hindu-Buddhist mythology syncretized with the indigenous mythologies
So you're telling me that ever since ancient times, Everyyyyboday wanted to suck on the warm teat of the Chinese market? XD Another great video man, Your channel is one of the most intriguing discoveries I made this year. As an Indian myself it so refreshing to finally learn more about different eras in Indian history than what was taught in school, which was rather limited tbh. Keep up the great work
Also shows that snce ancient times, China always fluctuates from being a reliable trade benefactor to interventionist hegemon. Some things never change
You need three to work the trades = prosperous. My theory is the sea trades in the South East Asia begin between in now days Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam through the Bujang Valleys to the otherside Myanmar and Bangladesh.
Tamils helped so much in expanding our Indian culture to the rest of the world. I think they're really underrated, as not many people know about their contributions. At least here in North India.
I respect Tamils. They're a hard working race of people (If you can call them a "race") and they're a skilled people with diverse careers. I don't own a business. I don't. But if I did I would hire at least one Tamil.
😂tamils are not just the only ancient indians. shut up wirh ur false supremacy that ur govr has long fed u. many parts of india other than south have old cities which is in similar timeframe to indian civilization, the tribal ppl from other parts of india are ancient too. 😂u ppl are so consumed about urself, only u were not great, others were too
China, Japan & Korea knows this, & has always respected the intellectual & spiritual prowess of India (hello? Buddhism became part of East Asia's cultural identity, & it wasn't through conversions via the sword). The west just doesn't seem to care to know anything from outside its borders...
Every time I see the notification that there is another Odd Compass video, my day is instantly made! Hello from Taiwan, along the periphery of the Maritime Silk Road!
The way I see it, Medieval India is to Asia as Italy was to Medieval Europe. Inherited a cultural legacy from a once-unified empire, now composed of multiple states; is itself an important hub of culture, science & religion exporting these to the rest of Asia; more interested in trade & cultural exchange than territorial hegemony. India's contribution to SEA cultural identity is as much if not more than China's
SEA is definitely WAY more indianized than sinonized (is that even a word?). You can clearly see it in their architecture, religion, language and even the names of the empires and people. Although there was more Chinese influence along Vietnam and Burma though.
@@aakarshmaurya2265 Yeah, the founding member of Shaolin Temple and adopted the martial Arts style of "Kalaripayattu" to teach to his disciples in Far East(today's China).
@Marxist Me it ain't delhi centric it's islamised and colonized hardly any of indigenous Indian history is taught so need to generalize and come to the conclusion that South Indians are ignored
As a Filipino, I can attest to Indian influences being the next cultural strata on top of our indigenous base. From governance, words, food, writing, to religious concepts, Indian cultural elements are the oldest import that has stayed. An important channel for this cultural transmission was the Malay Peninsula and the islands of Indonesia. The Supreme God of the Tagalog people is Bathala, from "Bhattara Guru", while we have words like "budhî" (conscience), "dukhâ" (poor), "sampalataya" (faith, belief), "mahál" (dear, costly, expensive, highest), "puto" (a rice cake from the word "puttu"), "Talà" (star, also a Tagalog and Kapampangan star goddess), "diwata" (deity, from "devata"), "raja" (king or chief), "gadya" (elephant), "laksâ" (myriad/10,000, from "lakh"), and "basa" (read, from "vac", meaning speech). The Ramayana also has several versions here, its most famous expression being the Singkíl dance of the Islamised Maranaw people. It's a very fascinating origin of many things we often take for granted or easily miss. From there, we absorbed Chinese and Arab influences, before the Spaniards arrived in 1521 to begin our long period of colonisation by western nations.
Wonderful !! I love learning about these sorts of things in history. At school and other mainstream media, we just learn about Kings, Queens and wars. However, we should be learning about what the common man did and this video helps us understand the common mans role in trade, commerce and spread of culture. It would be lovely if you could eventually make a video about the history of the Indian economy. For example, the trade with the Roman and Arab Empires, the types of jobs people performed, the South Indian Trading Guilds, the Ship Manufacturing Industries of Gujarat and Bengal and the rise of Proto Industrialisation during the Mughal era.
Tamil supremacists never learn history this is not a place for whatsapp forwards. The influence was Kalinga and bengali as he said in the starting of the video
Thank you so much for your efforts to bring this fascinating information to the internet. I am one of those ignorant Americans who is expanding his understanding of this amazing world and the societies that are part of it. And their complex histories, of course! Your presentation is well thought out and logical. You have a new subscriber! Well done sir, Well done.
Don't call yourself ignorant when you are trying and interested in learning, ignorant are those who thinks they know everything when they actually have any zero knowledge. Hope you don't regard yourself as ignorant again
The Chinese fishing nets in Kochi bears testimony of the tones when Chinese merchants visited Southern Kingdom for trade. I also heard that the Padmanabhaswami temple has coins minted in China probably from Song dynasty.
I’ve been waiting for you to cover this topic! You are the one TH-camr I’ve wanted to cover this, since it’s so complex, and requires a deft touch and lots of research. Can’t wait for more videos on the maritime Silk Road from you!
I'm happy you mentioned that Srivijaya was a Malay speaking empire and that Southeast Asian merchants were also active in exporting commodities to China as opposed to being passive recipients of Chinese and Indian influence. A lot of people understate the influence of Southeast Asia, itself, whenever we talk about the Maritime Silk Road. Most are unaware, for example, that Southeast Asians were the first people to develop a large Maritime trading network in the Indian ocean in the first place, with Indians and Chinese following suit. In fact Southeast Asians were the first people in the world to develop truly seaworthy watercraft at all, vessels that didn't merely sail along the coast but were capable of venturing across vast expanses of open ocean. It was Southeast Asians who introduced these seafaring technologies to India around 1000 BC - 600 BC and later to China around medieval times, enabling both to advance their own unique Maritime technologies/traditions. And of course, it was Southeast Asians who commanded the Spice Trade and controlled key trade routes like the Strait of Malacca. When Columbus set out to find a new route to the "Indies," he was referring to Southeast Asia as much as India. Sources: "The Dispersal of Austronesian Boat Forms in the Indian Ocean." "Kunlun and Kunlun Slaves as Buddhists in the Eyes of the Tang Chinese" "Austronesians were the First to Sail the Seas" "Early Exchange between Africa and the Wider Indian Ocean World" Ch. 3 "Hindu-Buddhist Architecture in Southeast Asia" p. 23-24
Its unproven. And Austronesians were no South East Asians. Most of the southeast Asians were by-product of the intermingling of Indians and Chinese in ancient times. Have you ever seen a child that was born to an Indian/chinese parents?
I always wonder what trade was like in the classical and mediaeval era, all the thriving ports, pirates, legends and myths. different times, thank you for taking us back in time and also educating us with the forgotten history of subcontinent, east and south east asia!
I don't think so as funan religious practice especially script was derived from pallava grantha script and pallavas existed during same time and most historians agree that Indian influence over funan is from pallavas and guptas
@@Anshulhe bruh Funan Kingdom came before the pallava and Guptas like way before Funan was established in 58ce and disestablished in 6th century CE, whereas as pallava came into power in 3rd century CE and Influence may can come leter to a kingdom.
@@Abhishek-sr2pu whatever one thing is clear that funan evolved with various influences and people it took pallava administrative structure and script, Gupta architecture and as you said first one might be from Kalinga but wiki is saying something else. However I believe it's Indian kingdom's who developed and civilized southeast asian states
@@OddCompass So do you plan to cover all of the SEAsian countries 🇧🇳🇰🇭🇮🇩🇱🇦🇲🇾🇲🇲🇵🇭🇸🇬🇹🇭🇹🇱🇻🇳 at some point in the form of their many “Kingdoms-Mandalas”? You did cover the many reasons for the Downfall of the Malacca Sultanate 🇲🇾 what about covering some major and influential, medium but vital, and minor but self-sustaining Mandalas that are worth educating or informing the audience about? To give you some ideas on Dynasties or “predecessor states”: 🇧🇳 Vijayapura or Po-ni 🇰🇭 Funan or Chenla 🇮🇩 Srvijaya or Majapahit (there’s plenty more to cover) 🇱🇦 Lan Xang or Luang Prabang 🇲🇾 Langkasuka or Kedah Sultanate 🇲🇲 Pagan or Konbaung 🇵🇭 Tondo/Tundun or Cebu/Sugbu or Butuan/Butwan 🇸🇬 Singapura or Temasek 🇹🇭 Ayyuthaya or Thonburi 🇹🇱 Ti-Wen or Wehali 🇻🇳 Dai Viet/Annam or Nguyen dynasty It would be up to you if you’re going to pick out one at a time which is understandable 😉 From a long time viewer of your channel
@@suraj.1889 Some of these countries were already covered in this TH-camr’s channel Epimetheus: 🇻🇳 🇹🇭 🇵🇭 🇸🇬 🇮🇩 🇲🇾 Think of it as an Introduction to the Histories of the nations of SEAsia be they Glorious and Painful
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 As an Indian, I have always felt pride in our culture and history*_* it makes me wonder how did this immense process took place, the trade, the exchange of thoughts and cultural values and what not between the Bharatiya(Indian) subcontinent and southeast Asia. We have all been so United for a majority of our past but in this modern era, the countries that formed such a big world-influencing sphere together are now so distant. Makes me wonder how.
@@shriharikrishna3095 no. not at all. Thamizhs live outside of India and have origins outside of India too. Modern day India didn't exist till the British colonized all kingdoms under them and then gave independence. For example I am not an Indian but a Thamizhan. If you mean that Thamizhs mostly lived in the Indian subcontinent? then yes that is true. But are Thamizhs Indians? no. Generalizing into a Nationality is sort of a modern identity.
@@observeoutofthebox7806 Tamizhs are currently considered a part pf the Indian republic and the Indian republic includes territories that are the lands of the Tamizhs. and I mean literally every human came from Africa, all ethnic groups in India once migrated here from somewhere.
I belong from Odisha in India, there is a festival we celebrate called Bali Yatra which means "Travel to Bali". There were regular Naval Voyages from Kalinga ( now Odisha) to Bali in Indonesia.
One small nitpick though; The map for 3rd Century China looks more like the map for the Qin Dynasty than how it was in the 200s (mainly Gansu, and parts of Shaanxi and Yunnan are missing. You can check the map for Jin Dynasty (266-420) or map of the Three Kingdoms for reference). Not a huge deal though, just wanted to mention.
Hindu kingdom in South East Asia Indonesia :- majapahit/Srivijaya and many more Vietnam:- champa kingdom Cambodia:- khmer dynasty Thailand :- Rama dyansty
@@indianyohip1185srivijaya empire was Buddhist partly contributed to their enemity towards khemer empire which were Hindus. It's mentioned in odd compass chola empire.
Our education on Indian history is just limited to war and who faught who on what date and who won. We really should be teaching a lot more about our maritine, trade, cultural exchange and so much more in history. It's essential a child to grow up understanding that our predecessors weren't just all soldier who were fighting all the time. I would love to see if you could look into how trading has influenced cooking in different regions. I have recently found that a lot of similarities between how spices are handled in certain Chinese traditional cooking and some South Indian cooking. Another similarity is how steam cooking is very common in South Indian cooking just like in a lot of East Asian cultures
I can't believe TH-cam's notification system failed me this one time. How did i not see this sooner!? Fantastic work as usual. A couple caveats / notes. Chinese influence in classical and middle ages did extend to northern Borneo and the Phillipines (Luzon and Ma-Yi, cognate to Manila perhaps). The Indic-Chinese split was likely around Manila though. In this mixing zone or area of cultural confluence, you get Indic scripts being written vertically to model after Sinic writing... Also, from what I know, Chinese haijin / sea bans were only implemented in more recent history, so that would not have affected the lack of cultural influence. Your map was very cool. It would have been cool for you to show the tea-horse route more figuratively though. It;s a fascinating part of the overland silkroad. Also, the source of mace and cloves have always been connected to the maritime silk road, but are in a very obscure part of the Southeast Asia that is never represented in these kinds of map infographics :( And while you're on the topic of maritime trade routes, I hope one day you talk about the Makassar Contact with Australia! The literature around this topic keeps growing and now there's tons of information online available for you to gloss.
Hey bud! Thanks for the additional context and info. And sorry for not using your map for this video! I ran into delays/production inefficiencies, and went with something familiar. I believe the Chinese bans were in effect during short periods in the Tang, Song, and Ming - I’ll have to reference my sources for confirmation. Regarding the earlier years, however, it was more so that the trade was simply dominated by SE Asian, Indian, and Arab merchants.
Malabar, Kollam, Cochin, Calicut - Kerala loved it ❤❤❤ We still uses the Chinese fishing net mode of fishing called Cheena Vala(ചീന വല) in Malayalam. Also we still use Cheena chatti, cheena pattu and so on. I've also heard there is a Malayali muslim family somewhere in China who have migrated back in those days.. The Malabar coast was and still a melting pot of diversity. We have 2000 years old Aramaic Christian community(Aramaic is the liturgical language) called MarThoma Nasranis(Saint Thomas Christians) in Kerala, we have the Muhamedians short after his advent in Arabian Peninsula, we have Jewish settlement from 72AD to till the creation of Israel, and we have great hindu monk Shankaracharya who have set foot from here 8th century AD. 💚 കേരളം Kerala ❤
Kerala comes from the word Cera dynasty. also Sangam period literature documents history of Kerala and tamil nadu both as the language in which it is written was used in the southern most part
@Niranjan Sabu because most temples are not on main road whereas churches are mostly on main road and also churches are more in there but that doesn't mean the population of Christians and muslims are high there
Please make video about Adi Shankara and his influence over India and Hinduism. Also please make videos on various Indian philosophical schools and logic systems 🙂🙏
Great work brother, your videos are great because I always thought we are all lied about our Ancient history to establish the fake AIT nonsense as real, but your channel showed me that how much of our history is neglected even within the established history of India.
I feel so sad 😞 whenever I hear such news 📰 parts of history that are NEGLECTED for the self interests of the powerful people As if hearing about-neglected history-from Indians themselves to their discontent about The Histories of South and Northeast India 🇮🇳 is already bad enough (looks like other countries have a similar problem as ours and it’s NOT a good thing, I also came to know one example from a Malaysian 🇲🇾 commenter on this channel that parts of their history are being neglected like the existence of the Langkasuka Kingdom, part of Malaysia’s Pre-Islamic History) not to make an insensitive comparison here, but I am only speaking from my experiences being born and raised in SEAsia-in a region that prioritizes producing cheap labor to export out of the country (why do you think we’re “everywhere” but not much good media coverage) instead of molding future responsible Citizens to contribute to nation building, point is my country 🇵🇭 had it WORSE when it comes to neglect of (Pre-colonial history) History subject in school 🏫 which basically goes like this in Elementary and High-school level: •Fast forward with outdated details about Early human migrations and some basics like the Barangay unit--WITHOUT going into detail the many Kingdoms and recorded peoples that used to exist here, along side their foreign relations with nearby neighbors and faraway places who also contributed to the enrichment of Ancient Filipino culture and especially of their achievements like a lot of Gold-work used in everyday things, gold thread 🧵 weaving, jewelry (ritual, religious, ornamental), ceremonial weapons, sculptures made of Gold (Golden Tara of Agusan), strong maritime cultural tradition and a whole lot more--and of the balangays (small support boats for bigger ships) that were used to transport peoples and goods •Some foggy 🌫 details about the Early 1521 and Late 1898 Spanish 🇪🇸 period and contributions with one sided POV for needless vivification, real thing is a lot more nuanced but they brought some good and bad (guess who wrote the History books 📚 from our “DepEd”) •American Period Featuring Slightly more cherry picked details (while omitting the unsavory essentials) to highlight needless romanticization of USA 🇺🇸 with the real thing being a lot more nuanced but has wrought a lot more damage to the psyche of the “Filipino people” like indebting Filipino businesses, manpower, military and political needs to making Philippines 🇵🇭 develop an unhealthy dependency on USA 🇺🇸 like the “Bell Trade Act” in a series of unfair treaties and strings attached political machinations And that is just some awful truths that have to come out because there’s more to be exposed
Glad to see a person from the present Dravidian state calling out the Colonial fake AIT nonsense. Romba Nandri, Anna. With regards from a person in your neighbouring state.
It’s very sad ODIA people especially Odia people forgot about their maritime history. In Odisha people in November December season they gather celebrate a festival in riversides called balijatra. From ancient times Odia people ( especially sadwa caste ). takes a journey in November when winds from north to south. They make a stop in srilanka for refilling food and water then wait winds from west to east and reach Bali and return journey to India in April may to Sri Lanka to Kalinga country South Indian favourite breakfast IDLY made its way from indoasia. Like Kerala puttu.
Weird that this video wasn't recommended when uploaded although I've watched all video on this channel. I had to remember the name and search. Good video and I wish Indian school history books had this content.
Many thanks. Odd compass for bringing this wonderful video. I'm from Kochi and we use Cheena Vala " Chinese Fishing nets", Cheena Chatti "Chinese vessels for cooking"... Much more. Thanks again
The Bad news 📰 here is School 🏫 textbooks 📚 are in practice NOT made for learning but for purposes of propaganda; to mold “factory workers” but not citizens with responsibilities and aspirations I feel so sad 😞 whenever I hear such news 📰 parts of history that are NEGLECTED for the self interests of the powerful people As if hearing about-neglected history-from Indians themselves to their discontent about The Histories of South and Northeast India 🇮🇳 is already bad enough (looks like other countries have a similar problem as ours and it’s NOT a good thing, I also came to know one example from a Malaysian 🇲🇾 commenter on this channel that parts of their history are being neglected like the existence of the Langkasuka Kingdom, part of Malaysia’s Pre-Islamic History) not to make an insensitive comparison here, but I am only speaking from my experiences being born and raised in SEAsia-in a region that prioritizes producing cheap labor to export out of the country (why do you think we’re “everywhere” but not much good media coverage) instead of molding future responsible Citizens to contribute to nation building, point is my country 🇵🇭 had it WORSE when it comes to neglect of (Pre-colonial history) History subject in school 🏫 which basically goes like this in Elementary and High-school level: •Fast forward with outdated details about Early human migrations and some basics like the Barangay unit--WITHOUT going into detail the many Kingdoms and recorded peoples that used to exist here, along side their foreign relations with nearby neighbors and faraway places who also contributed to the enrichment of Ancient Filipino culture and especially of their achievements like a lot of Gold-work used in everyday things, gold thread 🧵 weaving, jewelry (ritual, religious, ornamental), ceremonial weapons, sculptures made of Gold (Golden Tara of Agusan), strong maritime cultural tradition and a whole lot more--and of the balangays (small support boats for bigger ships) that were used to transport peoples and goods •Some foggy 🌫 details about the Early 1521 and Late 1898 Spanish 🇪🇸 period and contributions with one sided POV for needless vivification, real thing is a lot more nuanced but they brought some good and bad (guess who wrote the History books 📚 from our “DepEd”) •American Period Featuring Slightly more cherry picked details (while omitting the unsavory essentials) to highlight needless romanticization of USA 🇺🇸 with the real thing being a lot more nuanced but has wrought a lot more damage to the psyche of the “Filipino people” like indebting Filipino businesses, manpower, military and political needs to making Philippines 🇵🇭 develop an unhealthy dependency on USA 🇺🇸 like the “Bell Trade Act” in a series of unfair treaties and strings attached political machinations And that is just some awful truths that have to come out because there’s more to be exposed Thank you for reading 📖 my comment that expresses my frustrations with the shitty Education system in Philippines 🇵🇭 I know this because I went through it; by further propagating the colonial narrative (of the 🇺🇸 92% consistent admiration worldwide REALLY!? that’s so fucking embarrassing 🤦🏽♀️ Your Historical and Cultural Amnesia is showing Philippines 🇵🇭) that should have been changed a long time ago after independence, the interests of the self serving manipulative powerful people (foreign or local) will only go on to be a living reality UNLESS adequate quality Education for the common people by the people is happening on a National scale and one that encourages National fraternity among the citizens of a nation wether it’s a homogeneous or Multi-ethnic Nation You said it yourself that your History lessons in school 🏫 are bad right? whatever it is for your country of origin (insert random nation 🇲🇾 Here), that problem has to be addressed by a Nation’s people to consolidate and preserve their own cultures to avoid Historical distortions by foreign and local propaganda by being in touch with all aspects of one’s own history; nation I mentioned to some people in the comments section as to WHO to approach on Quora (look at the answers content and their knowledge cuz NOT all are reliable) if anyone wants to learn more about Ancient Philippines 🇵🇭 (cuz I am still learning more like a student 👩🎓 and I am not a professional historian) •Dayang Marikit •John Carlos Dacilo •Elijah Paul Castaneda Additional sources (outside Quora): •Pinoy Culture Tumblr •Kirby Arullo the TH-camr •DeviantArtist “dinosaurusgede” •Ayala Museum (they have their own TH-cam channel)
I think the very early monks like Lokakṣema (लोकक्षेम) during the Kushan-Han period and later on Kumārajīva (कुमारजीव) during the Gupta-Jin Period, the Maritime route was not that popular and we hardly hear of monks using the maritime route before the 6th-7th century. On the side note, I highly appreciate the fact that you used the Indian cultural realm or civilization, while depicting India on the map rather than just the present day geo-political entity called India which becomes confusing when reading the primary sources of history. This way it encapsulates the view of how the outsiders perceived when visiting India during that period of history even if it was politically fragmented.
@@OddCompass Bet, also I asked about the hindu, buddhist kingdoms of pakistan, afghanistan and central asia because I notice in this channel you talk about indian significance and its relation to the foreign world because it is very untouched on so I was wondering if you could cover that on the northwestern side.
@@OddCompass Have you ever thought of making collaboration videos with TH-camrs who are also interested in the same topics as you are? Edit: cuz I felt too vague here I mentioned to some people in the comments section as to WHO to approach on Quora (look at the answers content and their knowledge cuz NOT all are reliable) if anyone wants to learn more about Ancient Philippines 🇵🇭 (cuz I am still learning more like a student 👩🎓 and I am not a professional historian) •Dayang Marikit •John Carlos Dacilo •Elijah Paul Castaneda Additional sources (outside Quora): •Pinoy Culture Tumblr •Kirby Arullo the TH-camr •DeviantArtist “dinosaurusgede” •Ayala Museum (they have their own TH-cam channel)
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 I'll look into collaborations -- it's something I tend to shy away from, since I like to focus on my own style of video. But thanks for being a long-time viewer!
@@OddCompass I also want to say this because I noticed that viewers pressure for more frequent videos can be too much for some people, for that requires a lot of planning to do So It’s okay because I understand that: Making quality content takes time, so the best way for you (content creator) to do that is for me (helpful viewer) to give you ideas for a future topic as a way of helping this channel even if I noticed that I am getting a bit naggy, hence why I said this because for some “businesses” quality pays more long term
I think it is important to note that while Song dynasty had proto-capitalist system, later dynasties starting with Yuan had aristocratic feudal system. Song accounted for more than 20% of world's GDP at the time, later dynasties were far behind.
@@ShubhamMishrabro The Song Dynasty was indeed very developed economically and invented many monetary systems such as paper money and so on. However, the biggest problem of the Song Dynasty was that its military was too weak. Therefore, the Song Dynasty is generally not considered as the golden age as the Tang Dynasty, Han Dynasty, and Ming Dynasty.
If India and China work seriously together on interstate commerce, it would create the BIGGEST market on Earth and in history. Too bad border issues and nationalism is making that dream very remote.
There is already a video on Chola dynasty, though it mostly covers the Rajendra Era. I suggest you to read Ponniyin Selvan a novel that's set in timeline of his father Raja Raja Cholan and even though it's said to be given a twist of fiction, it should give a good look on the language arts and culture.
It’s the same with many Asian countries that were colonized, (current shit education system in teaching History which goes for every country) until you look into your surroundings what school 🏫 hasn’t thought to all of us in Both material and immaterial manifestations of many older and newer cultural influences
@@madeshshivam952 in Kannada kadaamba Vijayanagar chalukya rahstrakuta hoysala Mysore kingdom Tarde with also mainly Arabs and Persians srilanka and mayanmar pegu
"ate" in tagalog and other philippine languages comes from hokkien chinese "阿姊 (a-tsé)". we still say this in the contemporary philippine hokkien dialect of hokkien chinese language but pronounce it now as "阿姊 (á-tsí)". in kapampangan, the same word for elder sister is "atsi". it is still exactly the same.... if you want to know which tamil word is part of tagalog and other ph languages, a better example is "puto", the food. it comes from tamil "புட்டு (puṭṭu)"
@@syasol yes. As an Indian of northern descent (rajasthani) I feel suffocated when I hear such things...I have heard about the Malaysian people discriminating Indians in Malaysia. 💔 But stay strong. Our ancestors were brave and amazing people. We must do them justice with our hard work.
Thanks for this video. I love your work. Hope in future you are going to a do video on historical significance of bengal. Gangaredaye civilization, chandraketugar, Trade, politics, freedom movement, bhakti moment, burst of progressive n intellectual ideas, spread of buddhism etc
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This is a very best TH-cam channel. Your text and graphics are both historically on point. You distinguished between the Song's clothing and the Yuan's clothing appropriately. You are educated and more importantly passionate in the discipline.
Singaporean here. 2:22 - 2:30 I think you are spot on here lol. When I was young my parents used to address people of South Asian descent as 'Keling kia' ('kia' in hokkien means a guy/dude) and I always wondered why this is so. Of course, however, as we progress as a new nation such terms are slowly being phased out since we are now all residents/citizens of Singapore and we all speak English and have the same values (still WIP of course).
Tamilans influenced most of South East Asia and China's economy and culture... Cholas and Pallavas believed with Brahmin theories but they never loose their Tamil identity that's why Tamil and Sanskrit are in South East Asia and Tamil is national language of Singapore and minority language in Malaysia
Liking the video before watching cuz I know it's gonna be lit🔥🔥
Wassup brown drake
@@destyon9966 mahh man😂😂, I actually follow drake a lot
Same as he said 😀
You don't show Myanmar in INDIA 🇮🇳
In 1937 Myanmar was separated from INDIA 🇮🇳 by Britishers...
1873-afganistan
1904&06-nepal and Bhutan
1932-srilanka
1937-myanmar
1947-pakistan and Bangladesh
Uk divides INDIA 🇮🇳...
@@jayhind4640 no bro Indians are divided by themselves it's includes me also
In the US, India’s history is very overlooked. The Chola Empire, one of the richest and longest lasting trading kingdoms in human history, gets less teaching time in world history classes than Henry VIII of England, a single ruler who was king of a country of only about 5 million at the time. I wouldn’t know any Indian history outside of the Maurya, Gupta, Chola, Mughal, and British empires if it weren’t for this channel. Thank you, and I hope history isn’t taught with as much eurocentrism in the future.
Thank you for your thoughts, and for watching. I really appreciate it!
US was discovered trying to find India
The US cares more about the US than the rest of the world. It's just natural. I wouldn't expect India to have American history, it's irrelevant.
Why wouldn't it after all??
@@rossevanricamara4169 then why am I taught extensively about European history, including details about the Romans, the HRE, Charlemagne, the 30 Years’ War, the migration period, the Byzantine conquests of Italy, enlightened despotism, etc? Those things have nothing to do with American history, yet European history takes up more than half of our world history classes while India is always a sidenote.
Another Great Video 👏 Thanks from Tamilnadu, India
Bro as an Indian, I feel that you are way too OP. I remember studying history of my country and it felt like burden/useless subject because of the way textbooks are style/designed/written. But you made it really interesting, and I feel teachers could also use it to create a positive interest in the subject. I have a feeling buddy you will go a long way...... and best of luck buddy!!!
Thanks so much 🙏🏽
You felt burdened because the Central and most of the State boards have continued the British Colonial history and Bharat's history is extensively written in syllabus only about the events after 12th Century. It's like India existed before 12th Century and that's it.
We had just a glimse of Queen Lakshmibai's life story and just a little info on Maratha Empire that caused the downfall of Mughals by the end of 17th and 18th centuries.
Thanks to free flow of information now, I came to understand that the nonsensical AIT concept was also a Colonial British ploy used back in those days and still is taught in schools poisoning young minds, though there is no solid proof to prove AIT. The Britishers were replaced by Indian top Elite, that's it. The ways they followed to govern this diverse country have their origins from the Colonial times. It's only since from early 1990's that a new political thought and to unshackle ourselves from this mind control has started.
I'm glad that 1991 happened in Bharat's history!
Because it use british standard that think anything not european are inferior.
@@OddCompass consider making a video on indian maths and astronomy. Trust me you will be surprised to see just how much india has contributed to the world of maths and the influence it had on the arabic maths which was responsible for the intellectual re awakening of europe. Here are a few hindu mathematicians you might want to start with brahmagupta, aryabhat, madhava of Sangamagrama, Bhāskara I, Varāhamihira, and so many more. Another interesting topic worth making a video on could be the development of medicine in india. Most indians have this misconception that science, maths, rationality and medicine are purely european inventions whereas that certainly is not the case, not trying to disrespect or discredit european thinkers, i respect all those who have contributed towards the progress of mankind equally but unlike their european counter parts hindu intellectuals are barely known among the general public.
@@OddCompassyou should be our history teacher 😊
Thank you odd compas you are doing so much to lift india's history to world theater i'd suggest you do a video on satavahana empire
Yeah that would be great 👍
Rashtrakutas and vakatakas too
This guy made a lot of mistakes in this video. Please do not regards this video anywhere.
@@shreyasd4663 plz specify
Like it
I love how you focus on the not-so-known history of India and Southeast Asia as well. I've always wondered about the cultural similarities between India and Southeast Asian countries (especially Thailand), and "now I know" why. :)
Haha, happy to help!
Thailand got Indian influence from Cambodia. The area already had Indian influence there before the Thai people immigrated to Southeast Asia from China.
I literally cried.
Dude, we missed you!
You defo made his day man
Thanks! It’s been a hectic few months haha. Good to be back :)
eyyyyy Kabeshki!
@@OddCompass please post vedio's on pandyas and other south Indian empires.also please make detailed vedio's of the large empire's like cholas.From their first appearance to their end
I'm delighted to learn about all these things, most of us just think of British and mughals when they think about Indian history, no one to blame except our textbook writers
The Bad news 📰 here is School 🏫 textbooks 📚 are in practice NOT made for learning but for purposes of propaganda; to mold “factory workers” but not citizens with responsibilities and aspirations
I feel so sad 😞 whenever I hear such news 📰 parts of history that are NEGLECTED for the self interests of the powerful people
As if hearing about-neglected history-from Indians themselves to their discontent about The Histories of South and Northeast India 🇮🇳 is already bad enough (looks like other countries have a similar problem as ours and it’s NOT a good thing, I also came to know one example from a Malaysian 🇲🇾 commenter on this channel that parts of their history are being neglected like the existence of the Langkasuka Kingdom, part of Malaysia’s Pre-Islamic History) not to make an insensitive comparison here, but I am only speaking from my experiences being born and raised in SEAsia-in a region that prioritizes producing cheap labor to export out of the country (why do you think we’re “everywhere” but not much good media coverage) instead of molding future responsible Citizens to contribute to nation building, point is my country 🇵🇭 had it WORSE when it comes to neglect of (Pre-colonial history) History subject in school 🏫 which basically goes like this in Elementary and High-school level:
•Fast forward with outdated details about Early human migrations and some basics like the Barangay unit--WITHOUT going into detail the many Kingdoms and recorded peoples that used to exist here, along side their foreign relations with nearby neighbors and faraway places who also contributed to the enrichment of Ancient Filipino culture and especially of their achievements like a lot of Gold-work used in everyday things, gold thread 🧵 weaving, jewelry (ritual, religious, ornamental), ceremonial weapons, sculptures made of Gold (Golden Tara of Agusan), strong maritime cultural tradition and a whole lot more--and of the balangays (small support boats for bigger ships) that were used to transport peoples and goods
•Some foggy 🌫 details about the Early 1521 and Late 1898 Spanish 🇪🇸 period and contributions with one sided POV for needless vivification, real thing is a lot more nuanced but they brought some good and bad (guess who wrote the History books 📚 from our “DepEd”)
•American Period Featuring Slightly more cherry picked details (while omitting the unsavory essentials) to highlight needless romanticization of USA 🇺🇸 with the real thing being a lot more nuanced but has wrought a lot more damage to the psyche of the “Filipino people” like indebting Filipino businesses, manpower, military and political needs to making Philippines 🇵🇭 develop an unhealthy dependency on USA 🇺🇸 like the “Bell Trade Act” in a series of unfair treaties and strings attached political machinations
And that is just some awful truths that have to come out because there’s more to be exposed
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 Wow, I thought my history books were bad, never knew Filipina had it worse. Sorry to hear that
@@aimanmarzuqi4804
It’s ok and thank you for reading 📖 my comment that expresses my frustrations with the shitty Education system in Philippines 🇵🇭 I know this because I went through it; by further propagating the colonial narrative (of the 🇺🇸 92% consistent admiration worldwide REALLY!? that’s so fucking embarrassing 🤦🏽♀️ Your Historical and Cultural Amnesia is showing Philippines 🇵🇭) that should have been changed a long time ago after independence, the interests of the self serving manipulative powerful people will only go on to be a living reality UNLESS adequate quality Education for the common people by the people is happening on a National scale and one that encourages National fraternity among the citizens of a nation wether it’s a homogeneous or Multi-ethnic Nation
You said it yourself that your History lessons in school 🏫 are bad right? whatever it is for your country of origin, that problem has to be addressed by a Nation’s people to consolidate and preserve their own cultures to avoid Historical distortions by foreign and local propaganda
I was always curious why here (Luzon, Philippines) had a large indian influence. One of our earliest forms of written writing was in sanskrit (Laguna Copperplate). Thanks for shedding light on us SEAns who don’t know even our own history :3
No problem!
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Satuito James pls read the following, it might shed light on WHY we need to learn more:
The Bad news 📰 here is School 🏫 textbooks 📚 are in practice NOT made for learning but for purposes of propaganda; to mold “factory workers” but not citizens with responsibilities and aspirations
I feel so sad 😞 whenever I hear such news 📰 parts of history that are NEGLECTED for the self interests of the powerful people
As if hearing about-neglected history-from Indians themselves to their discontent about The Histories of South and Northeast India 🇮🇳 is already bad enough (looks like other countries have a similar problem as ours and it’s NOT a good thing, I also came to know one example from a Malaysian 🇲🇾 commenter on this channel that parts of their history are being neglected like the existence of the Langkasuka Kingdom, part of Malaysia’s Pre-Islamic History) not to make an insensitive comparison here, but I am only speaking from my experiences being born and raised in SEAsia-in a region that prioritizes producing cheap labor to export out of the country (why do you think we’re “everywhere” but not much good media coverage) instead of molding future responsible Citizens to contribute to nation building, point is my country 🇵🇭 had it WORSE when it comes to neglect of (Pre-colonial history) History subject in school 🏫 which basically goes like this in Elementary and High-school level:
•Fast forward with outdated details about Early human migrations and some basics like the Barangay unit--WITHOUT going into detail the many Kingdoms and recorded peoples that used to exist here, along side their foreign relations with nearby neighbors and faraway places who also contributed to the enrichment of Ancient Filipino culture and especially of their achievements like a lot of Gold-work used in everyday things, gold thread 🧵 weaving, jewelry (ritual, religious, ornamental), ceremonial weapons, sculptures made of Gold (Golden Tara of Agusan), strong maritime cultural tradition and a whole lot more--and of the balangays (small support boats for bigger ships) that were used to transport peoples and goods
•Some foggy 🌫 details about the Early 1521 and Late 1898 Spanish 🇪🇸 period and contributions with one sided POV for needless vivification, real thing is a lot more nuanced but they brought some good and bad (guess who wrote the History books 📚 from our “DepEd”)
•American Period Featuring Slightly more cherry picked details (while omitting the unsavory essentials) to highlight needless romanticization of USA 🇺🇸 with the real thing being a lot more nuanced but has wrought a lot more damage to the psyche of the “Filipino people” like indebting Filipino businesses, manpower, military and political needs to making Philippines 🇵🇭 develop an unhealthy dependency on USA 🇺🇸 like the “Bell Trade Act” in a series of unfair treaties and strings attached political machinations
And that is just some awful truths that have to come out because there’s more to be exposed
laguna copperplate isnt written in sanskrit. its written in old malay using the kawi script which is what influenced the different baybayin scripts. kawi script descends from pallava script in india
majapahit use sanskrit too
There is festival in Odisha called Bali Jatra. It started as a celebration of time when oriya merchants and people went to Indonesia and Sri Lanka using the winds patterns. It is held in Karthik purnima.
Odia*
Especially to the bali island
🙌 our merchants also used wind pattern only and also turtles.
I often wonder how we adopted the practice of "Kalapani"
@@swagatochatterjee7104 what's that!
Good video. I like that you focus on South Asian history, most of us don't know about our own region
Edit: So India has pretty much influenced countries of South East and East Asia
India is a very enlightened state in those days
Proud to be an Indian
With in the established history yes, but if you listen to the work for people like Nilesh oak, Raj Vedam, Sanjeev Sanyal and others, its clear that Indic Civilization influenced almost all of the Eurasia.
I think he is Indian that's why
@@chavalivenkatapadmavathi5120 Nah, man, just advanced than most of the world. The concept of enlightenment is a European idea.
@@sol90981 He is Indian-American(Odd Compass)
the moment I saw the notification, I knew I was gonna learn more about my Tamil people history, A history which has been neglected and many times tried to be deleted from the history, thanks to the channel for letting the people to know about the significance of South Indian Kingdoms keep it up guys
Aww 😊 that’s sad to hear because the more I know about both North and South India 🇮🇳 and their respective contributions to my country 🇵🇭, the more interested I am in studying 📖 their History and Cultures to better understand them
For example:
The Tagalog word “Puto” (ᜉ̰ᜆ̥) contrary to first assumptions did NOT come from the Spanish “puto-asshole” even though I am not denying their legacy but rather it came from the Tamil word “Puttu-a kind of Rice cake 🧁 🍚” mind you, there’s regional varieties of the same dessert 🧁 🍨 🍮 in SEAsia under different names
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 rice puttu and raagi puttu delicious....
@@udhayakumarMN
There’s another Indian dessert that I’ve seen (that also reminds me of Tagalog Puto) other than Tamil Puttu of Kerala that makes my mouth 👄 watery whenever I think about it, I forgot it’s name but I remember what it looked like (this dessert 🧁 🍚 is located in West Bengal)
Bruh if you think south indian history is neglected then try east indian or north east indian history.
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 yes, Indian cuisine has had influences on Filipino cuisine. And many other influences, like establishing the rajahnate of Cebu by a half Indian king, Buddhism and Hinduism being the dominant religion (mixed with folk religion of the Phillipines) before the Spanish came( you can find many archeological proofs for it especially in Mindanao and other souther parts of Phillipines). Also many words in different languages of Phillipines are from sanskrit: rajah, guro(guru in sanskrit), dukha, mukha(I was surprised to hear this from a Filipina! And then I researched why her language had the same word as Indian languages and I came to know about all this history), etc. There are many other words but it would make this comment too long haha
Fun fact: European colonization also began in a similar fashion to Ming interferences in Kerala politics. One of the first political steps taken by the Portuguese in India was to support Kochi gain full independence from Kozhikode. It was in fact the Portuguese who crowned the ruler of Kochi, breaking his fielty to the Samudri of Kozhikode.
Divide and rule😳😳🙄
@@ShubhamMishrabro
Divide, Conquer and Rule is what conquerors do to target valuable peoples, resources and territory
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 yes brother
😔😔😔
@@ShubhamMishrabro Just like how the British divided India by creating disharmony between two peacefully coexisting religious communities.
2:24 Kalinga coast in India 🇮🇳-that reminds me of something, we have a province in Philippines 🇵🇭 called Kalinga in the Cordillera region
I am not saying this for attention grabbing but rather, the more I listen👂🏽to the Indian languages, there are more words that sound familiar to me, some words that I remember we still use coming from-experience-here, I used a list to keep track but the words listed here I am very sure are still in use:
In Tagalog from Tamil or via Malay or Javanese (sources vary):
Bagay-Vagai
Baril-Vedil
Billango-Vilangu
Gulay-Kulai
Kawal-Kaval
Kawali-Kuvalai
Kiyapo-Kayapuu
Mangga-Mangai
Malunggay-Murungai
Puto-Puttu
Tupa-Attu patti
In Tagalog from Sanskrit or via Malay or Javanese (sources vary):
Agham-Agama
Antala-Antara
Asal-Acara
Bahala-Bhara
Balita-Varta
Bansa-Vamsa
Banyaga-Vanjaka
Basa-Vaca
Bathala-Batthara
Bihasa-Abhyasa
Budhi-Bodhi
Daya-Dvaya
Diwa-Jiwa
Diwata-Devata
Dukha-Dukkha
Dusa-Dosa
Ganda-Gandha
Guro-Guru
Halaga-Argha
Halata-Arthaya
Hina-Hina
Hiwaga-Vihaga
Katha-Katha
Kalapati-Parapatah
Kuba-Kubja
Kuta-Kota
Rajah-Rajah
Lagundi-Nirgundi
Laho-Rahu
Lasa-Rasa
Likha-Lekha
Luksa-Leksa
Madla-Mandala (a kind of kingdom defined by it’s Center)
Maharlika-Maharddika
Mukha-Mukha
Mula-Mula
Paksa-Paksha
Palibasa-Paribasa
Patola-Patola
Saksi-Saksin
Sakuna-Zakuna
Salamuha-Samuha
Salanta-Randa
Salita-Carita
Samantala-Samantara
Sampalataya-Sampratyaya
Sandata-Samyatta
Sigla-Sighra
Suka-Chuka
Tala-Tara
Tsampaka-Campaka
Upang-Upa
Makes you think what kind of interactions happened here a LONG time ago
In odisha(Kalinga) we have folklore about our merchants traveling to south wast asia for 6 months. It's called "baita bandana".
@@Abhishek-sr2pu In Odisha,the culture of sailing boats on river on 'Karthik purnima' also symbolic of merchant of Odisha making sea voyages..... ??? What do u think bro
Philippines before colonisation had hindu Buddhists people while some adopted islam that's why you see many similarities. There are many famous hindu Buddhist Kingdom of philipines but coloniser tried to erase it all
@@ShubhamMishrabro
If Indonesia 🇮🇩 has plenty of major and minor Mandalas, who’s to say that it’s northern neighbor doesn’t?
In fact Philippines 🇵🇭 also has plentiful Mandalas too with “changing boarders” reflecting a Mandala’s sphere of influence because a Mandala is defined by it’s center, operating like our Solar System with the Sun 🌞 at the center and the 8-9 planets 🌏 🪐 surrounding the Sun and are moving in circles around the sun. Likewise, the planets that surround the sun are also the center of their own sphere with their respective moons 🌝 🌚 surrounding their planet’s and are also constantly moving in circles, the smaller the planet 🌏 the fewer the moons, but the bigger the planet 🪐 the more moons it has.
That is How a Mandala actually operates, influencing each other while maintaining their precious autonomy within it’s alliance network. Rulers of a Mandala often intermarry with other Mandalas that they are allied with to protect and sustain their own interests and ambitions in within their sphere of influence.
There’s plenty more but some of the more documented Indianized principalities are:
Lakanate of Tondo/Tundun in Luzon
Rajahnate of Cebu/Sugbu in Visayas
Rajahnate of Butuan/But-wan in Mindanao
There’s ancient works of gold that were recovered in Philippines 🇵🇭 too many of these works of gold shows familiarity with Hindu-Buddhist mythology syncretized with the indigenous mythologies
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 yes brother you're correct. I hope more philipines history is discovered
So you're telling me that ever since ancient times, Everyyyyboday wanted to suck on the warm teat of the Chinese market? XD Another great video man, Your channel is one of the most intriguing discoveries I made this year. As an Indian myself it so refreshing to finally learn more about different eras in Indian history than what was taught in school, which was rather limited tbh. Keep up the great work
We need more trade tie with today china...
Whether they communist or not ....
Also shows that snce ancient times, China always fluctuates from being a reliable trade benefactor to interventionist hegemon. Some things never change
@@cyberhikikomori5326
Big Fish eat Small Fish
As always ....
@@cyberhikikomori5326
Either you going to suck America or China..
But Democracy give you choice LOL...
You need three to work the trades = prosperous. My theory is the sea trades in the South East Asia begin between in now days Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam through the Bujang Valleys to the otherside Myanmar and Bangladesh.
Tamils helped so much in expanding our Indian culture to the rest of the world. I think they're really underrated, as not many people know about their contributions. At least here in North India.
I am a tamil speaker and I learned more from this guy than the propoganda in TN
I respect Tamils. They're a hard working race of people (If you can call them a "race") and they're a skilled people with diverse careers. I don't own a business. I don't. But if I did I would hire at least one Tamil.
😂tamils are not just the only ancient indians. shut up wirh ur false supremacy that ur govr has long fed u. many parts of india other than south have old cities which is in similar timeframe to indian civilization, the tribal ppl from other parts of india are ancient too. 😂u ppl are so consumed about urself, only u were not great, others were too
I didnt know about the presence of indian monks other than bodhidharma(which is often contested). Thanks for doing this man.
No problem!
China, Japan & Korea knows this, & has always respected the intellectual & spiritual prowess of India (hello? Buddhism became part of East Asia's cultural identity, & it wasn't through conversions via the sword). The west just doesn't seem to care to know anything from outside its borders...
I was aware of Bodhisena and Bodhidharma, but had no idea about the others.
Every time I see the notification that there is another Odd Compass video, my day is instantly made! Hello from Taiwan, along the periphery of the Maritime Silk Road!
Thanks! I've always wanted to travel to Taiwan (I lived in Malaysia for 4 years).
The way I see it, Medieval India is to Asia as Italy was to Medieval Europe.
Inherited a cultural legacy from a once-unified empire, now composed of multiple states; is itself an important hub of culture, science & religion exporting these to the rest of Asia; more interested in trade & cultural exchange than territorial hegemony.
India's contribution to SEA cultural identity is as much if not more than China's
Oh India's cultural imprint on SEA definitely way more than China.
Fantastic analogy
SEA is definitely WAY more indianized than sinonized (is that even a word?). You can clearly see it in their architecture, religion, language and even the names of the empires and people. Although there was more Chinese influence along Vietnam and Burma though.
@@balashibuyeeter2704 Sinicized is the word I think
China is also like rome . China gets united United then divided
We never learn about Chinese or Indian history here in Canada. This is great. Thank you.
I am Indian and we are rarely taught about this.
I learned about Bodhidharma by a Tamil Movie not even by books
Canada was found by Europeans because they were searching for India
@@aakarshmaurya2265
Yeah, the founding member of Shaolin Temple and adopted the martial Arts style of "Kalaripayattu" to teach to his disciples in Far East(today's China).
@Marxist Me it ain't delhi centric it's islamised and colonized hardly any of indigenous Indian history is taught so need to generalize and come to the conclusion that South Indians are ignored
@@aakarshmaurya2265 lol it was in the books maybe you just forgot lol although, he is way more popular in the movie though
Once again, you provided 15 minutes of unparalleled knowledge on medieval Asia. your channel deserves at least a million subscribers.
Thanks so much!
As a Filipino, I can attest to Indian influences being the next cultural strata on top of our indigenous base. From governance, words, food, writing, to religious concepts, Indian cultural elements are the oldest import that has stayed. An important channel for this cultural transmission was the Malay Peninsula and the islands of Indonesia.
The Supreme God of the Tagalog people is Bathala, from "Bhattara Guru", while we have words like "budhî" (conscience), "dukhâ" (poor), "sampalataya" (faith, belief), "mahál" (dear, costly, expensive, highest), "puto" (a rice cake from the word "puttu"), "Talà" (star, also a Tagalog and Kapampangan star goddess), "diwata" (deity, from "devata"), "raja" (king or chief), "gadya" (elephant), "laksâ" (myriad/10,000, from "lakh"), and "basa" (read, from "vac", meaning speech). The Ramayana also has several versions here, its most famous expression being the Singkíl dance of the Islamised Maranaw people.
It's a very fascinating origin of many things we often take for granted or easily miss. From there, we absorbed Chinese and Arab influences, before the Spaniards arrived in 1521 to begin our long period of colonisation by western nations.
I dont even know why this video hasn't got hundreds of thousand of views till now, its been a month already! the content quality is super!
Wonderful !! I love learning about these sorts of things in history. At school and other mainstream media, we just learn about Kings, Queens and wars. However, we should be learning about what the common man did and this video helps us understand the common mans role in trade, commerce and spread of culture. It would be lovely if you could eventually make a video about the history of the Indian economy. For example, the trade with the Roman and Arab Empires, the types of jobs people performed, the South Indian Trading Guilds, the Ship Manufacturing Industries of Gujarat and Bengal and the rise of Proto Industrialisation during the Mughal era.
Tamils have done something incredible with their history of conquests & power plays something that is hardly taught in Tamil Nadu let alone India💪🏾🔥
Yes , even though I'm from northern part of India but i want to learn history of our ancestors from the south.
Biggest influencers were Kalings and Bangalis not Tamils. Tamils were concentrated upto Lanka and few coast colony in burma only
Tamil supremacists never learn history this is not a place for whatsapp forwards. The influence was Kalinga and bengali as he said in the starting of the video
Every part of country have atleast once experienced golden age
@@vve2059 only 4 Indian kings called great in the world two tamil kings in that
Thank you so much for your efforts to bring this fascinating information to the internet. I am one of those ignorant Americans who is expanding his understanding of this amazing world and the societies that are part of it. And their complex histories, of course! Your presentation is well thought out and logical. You have a new subscriber!
Well done sir,
Well done.
Thank you!
Don't call yourself ignorant when you are trying and interested in learning, ignorant are those who thinks they know everything when they actually have any zero knowledge.
Hope you don't regard yourself as ignorant again
@@itsshitposter Basically you.
@@hiddenafitlhile8909 looks like it's you
@@itsshitposter K
The Chinese fishing nets in Kochi bears testimony of the tones when Chinese merchants visited Southern Kingdom for trade. I also heard that the Padmanabhaswami temple has coins minted in China probably from Song dynasty.
I'm so happy I discovered this channel.
I’ve been waiting for you to cover this topic! You are the one TH-camr I’ve wanted to cover this, since it’s so complex, and requires a deft touch and lots of research. Can’t wait for more videos on the maritime Silk Road from you!
I'm happy you mentioned that Srivijaya was a Malay speaking empire and that Southeast Asian merchants were also active in exporting commodities to China as opposed to being passive recipients of Chinese and Indian influence. A lot of people understate the influence of Southeast Asia, itself, whenever we talk about the Maritime Silk Road. Most are unaware, for example, that Southeast Asians were the first people to develop a large Maritime trading network in the Indian ocean in the first place, with Indians and Chinese following suit. In fact Southeast Asians were the first people in the world to develop truly seaworthy watercraft at all, vessels that didn't merely sail along the coast but were capable of venturing across vast expanses of open ocean. It was Southeast Asians who introduced these seafaring technologies to India around 1000 BC - 600 BC and later to China around medieval times, enabling both to advance their own unique Maritime technologies/traditions. And of course, it was Southeast Asians who commanded the Spice Trade and controlled key trade routes like the Strait of Malacca. When Columbus set out to find a new route to the "Indies," he was referring to Southeast Asia as much as India.
Sources:
"The Dispersal of Austronesian Boat Forms in the Indian Ocean."
"Kunlun and Kunlun Slaves as Buddhists in the Eyes of the Tang Chinese"
"Austronesians were the First to Sail the Seas"
"Early Exchange between Africa and the Wider Indian Ocean World" Ch. 3
"Hindu-Buddhist Architecture in Southeast Asia" p. 23-24
It's bulshit , india gave south east Asia its seafaring abilities and ship building technology
Its unproven.
And Austronesians were no South East Asians.
Most of the southeast Asians were by-product of the intermingling of Indians and Chinese in ancient times.
Have you ever seen a child that was born to an Indian/chinese parents?
@@utubetruthteller Borobudur temple in Java (9th century) carved 7 reliefs of Javanese / Austronesian junks with double outrigers. It's Austronesian in origin.
@@TheIndonesianPride borubudur temple itself a hindu temple built by Indians
@@utubetruthteller any proof from literary source?
I always wonder what trade was like in the classical and mediaeval era, all the thriving ports, pirates, legends and myths. different times, thank you for taking us back in time and also educating us with the forgotten history of subcontinent, east and south east asia!
I first saw this channel when it had 10k subs now it is 53k nice to see such amazing channel grow 🤗
The 1st king of Funan came from Kalinga when he married the a brave pirate queen named soma in the region. At least that's what I heard.
I don't think so as funan religious practice especially script was derived from pallava grantha script and pallavas existed during same time and most historians agree that Indian influence over funan is from pallavas and guptas
@@Anshulhe bruh Funan Kingdom came before the pallava and Guptas like way before Funan was established in 58ce and disestablished in 6th century CE, whereas as pallava came into power in 3rd century CE and Influence may can come leter to a kingdom.
@@Anshulhe read about Funan first king.
@@Abhishek-sr2pu whatever one thing is clear that funan evolved with various influences and people it took pallava administrative structure and script, Gupta architecture and as you said first one might be from Kalinga but wiki is saying something else. However I believe it's Indian kingdom's who developed and civilized southeast asian states
@@Anshulhe civilised would be kinda a bad word to use here but they did have influences from india.
Hey!!! Buddy. Back after a big Sabbath.
Your videos 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
They reinvigorate my Tamil pride ❤️😘
Welcome back! Been looking forward to this since a while now and the wait was totally worth it.
Thanks! Sorry for the long wait haha
@@OddCompass
So do you plan to cover all of the SEAsian countries 🇧🇳🇰🇭🇮🇩🇱🇦🇲🇾🇲🇲🇵🇭🇸🇬🇹🇭🇹🇱🇻🇳 at some point in the form of their many “Kingdoms-Mandalas”? You did cover the many reasons for the Downfall of the Malacca Sultanate 🇲🇾 what about covering some major and influential, medium but vital, and minor but self-sustaining Mandalas that are worth educating or informing the audience about?
To give you some ideas on Dynasties or “predecessor states”:
🇧🇳 Vijayapura or Po-ni
🇰🇭 Funan or Chenla
🇮🇩 Srvijaya or Majapahit (there’s plenty more to cover)
🇱🇦 Lan Xang or Luang Prabang
🇲🇾 Langkasuka or Kedah Sultanate
🇲🇲 Pagan or Konbaung
🇵🇭 Tondo/Tundun or Cebu/Sugbu or Butuan/Butwan
🇸🇬 Singapura or Temasek
🇹🇭 Ayyuthaya or Thonburi
🇹🇱 Ti-Wen or Wehali
🇻🇳 Dai Viet/Annam or Nguyen dynasty
It would be up to you if you’re going to pick out one at a time which is understandable 😉
From a long time viewer of your channel
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 wow, these topics seem interesting, I would certainly watch videos on them with vigor.
@@suraj.1889
Some of these countries were already covered in this TH-camr’s channel Epimetheus:
🇻🇳 🇹🇭 🇵🇭 🇸🇬 🇮🇩 🇲🇾
Think of it as an Introduction to the Histories of the nations of SEAsia be they Glorious and Painful
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 As an Indian, I have always felt pride in our culture and history*_* it makes me wonder how did this immense process took place, the trade, the exchange of thoughts and cultural values and what not between the Bharatiya(Indian) subcontinent and southeast Asia. We have all been so United for a majority of our past but in this modern era, the countries that formed such a big world-influencing sphere together are now so distant.
Makes me wonder how.
so basically Thamizhs singlehandedly influenced most of South East Asia throughout history
Well ,they are Indians!
@@shriharikrishna3095 no. not at all. Thamizhs live outside of India and have origins outside of India too. Modern day India didn't exist till the British colonized all kingdoms under them and then gave independence. For example I am not an Indian but a Thamizhan. If you mean that Thamizhs mostly lived in the Indian subcontinent? then yes that is true. But are Thamizhs Indians? no. Generalizing into a Nationality is sort of a modern identity.
Also Kalinga as well. Their maritime history is quite well known.
@@observeoutofthebox7806 Tamizhs are currently considered a part pf the Indian republic and the Indian republic includes territories that are the lands of the Tamizhs.
and I mean literally every human came from Africa, all ethnic groups in India once migrated here from somewhere.
Tamizhs and Kalingans were the groups that influenced most of SE Asia.
I'm really glad to finally see you release another video! I hope you keep pushing out quality content like this
Bye bye bro
See you after 2-3 months🥺🥺😰
Please never forget me
Aww cute
Lol, I’ll be faster!
Epic trolling
I belong from Odisha in India, there is a festival we celebrate called Bali Yatra which means "Travel to Bali". There were regular Naval Voyages from Kalinga ( now Odisha) to Bali in Indonesia.
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One small nitpick though; The map for 3rd Century China looks more like the map for the Qin Dynasty than how it was in the 200s (mainly Gansu, and parts of Shaanxi and Yunnan are missing. You can check the map for Jin Dynasty (266-420) or map of the Three Kingdoms for reference). Not a huge deal though, just wanted to mention.
Hindu kingdom in South East Asia
Indonesia :- majapahit/Srivijaya and many more
Vietnam:- champa kingdom
Cambodia:- khmer dynasty
Thailand :- Rama dyansty
Srivijaya was a budhhist empire.
@@Abhishek-sr2pu even Buddhism is export from India so it belongs to us
@@Abhishek-sr2pu Nope ,it wasn't fully Buddhist.. they was shiva + Buddhist worshiper
@@indianyohip1185srivijaya empire was Buddhist partly contributed to their enemity towards khemer empire which were Hindus. It's mentioned in odd compass chola empire.
Champa kingdom later convert islam and Buddhism
Our education on Indian history is just limited to war and who faught who on what date and who won.
We really should be teaching a lot more about our maritine, trade, cultural exchange and so much more in history. It's essential a child to grow up understanding that our predecessors weren't just all soldier who were fighting all the time.
I would love to see if you could look into how trading has influenced cooking in different regions. I have recently found that a lot of similarities between how spices are handled in certain Chinese traditional cooking and some South Indian cooking. Another similarity is how steam cooking is very common in South Indian cooking just like in a lot of East Asian cultures
Great comment
Very refreshing to see this video as an Indian. Keep up!
Thanks -- will do!
I can't believe TH-cam's notification system failed me this one time. How did i not see this sooner!? Fantastic work as usual.
A couple caveats / notes. Chinese influence in classical and middle ages did extend to northern Borneo and the Phillipines (Luzon and Ma-Yi, cognate to Manila perhaps). The Indic-Chinese split was likely around Manila though. In this mixing zone or area of cultural confluence, you get Indic scripts being written vertically to model after Sinic writing...
Also, from what I know, Chinese haijin / sea bans were only implemented in more recent history, so that would not have affected the lack of cultural influence.
Your map was very cool. It would have been cool for you to show the tea-horse route more figuratively though. It;s a fascinating part of the overland silkroad. Also, the source of mace and cloves have always been connected to the maritime silk road, but are in a very obscure part of the Southeast Asia that is never represented in these kinds of map infographics :(
And while you're on the topic of maritime trade routes, I hope one day you talk about the Makassar Contact with Australia! The literature around this topic keeps growing and now there's tons of information online available for you to gloss.
Hey bud! Thanks for the additional context and info. And sorry for not using your map for this video! I ran into delays/production inefficiencies, and went with something familiar.
I believe the Chinese bans were in effect during short periods in the Tang, Song, and Ming - I’ll have to reference my sources for confirmation. Regarding the earlier years, however, it was more so that the trade was simply dominated by SE Asian, Indian, and Arab merchants.
@@OddCompass No worries! I'm feeling the crunch too. Im just happy you got to posting more cool content :)
Malabar, Kollam, Cochin, Calicut - Kerala loved it ❤❤❤
We still uses the Chinese fishing net mode of fishing called Cheena Vala(ചീന വല) in Malayalam. Also we still use Cheena chatti, cheena pattu and so on. I've also heard there is a Malayali muslim family somewhere in China who have migrated back in those days..
The Malabar coast was and still a melting pot of diversity. We have 2000 years old Aramaic Christian community(Aramaic is the liturgical language) called MarThoma Nasranis(Saint Thomas Christians) in Kerala, we have the Muhamedians short after his advent in Arabian Peninsula, we have Jewish settlement from 72AD to till the creation of Israel, and we have great hindu monk Shankaracharya who have set foot from here 8th century AD.
💚 കേരളം Kerala ❤
Great cheras ❤❤
Kerala comes from the word Cera dynasty. also Sangam period literature documents history of Kerala and tamil nadu both as the language in which it is written was used in the southern most part
@Niranjan Sabu ohh, really😁
@Niranjan Sabu that's not true there are lot of Hindus in kerala than Muslims and Christians,what you might heard would be any kind of bad stereotypes
@Niranjan Sabu because most temples are not on main road whereas churches are mostly on main road and also churches are more in there but that doesn't mean the population of Christians and muslims are high there
Very relevant since the world is reverting back to an Asia-centric order. Great work!
I am a history buff, and you do a great job explaining Indian history in the globalized world of the past.
Please make video about Adi Shankara and his influence over India and Hinduism.
Also please make videos on various Indian philosophical schools and logic systems 🙂🙏
Absolutely wonderful work. So complex and intricate! Thank you.
You're very welcome!
This is greatt!! It's crazy how connected the world was even back then
Thanks so much for this great video on the maritime silk route! Loved it!!
Great work brother, your videos are great because I always thought we are all lied about our Ancient history to establish the fake AIT nonsense as real, but your channel showed me that how much of our history is neglected even within the established history of India.
I feel so sad 😞 whenever I hear such news 📰 parts of history that are NEGLECTED for the self interests of the powerful people
As if hearing about-neglected history-from Indians themselves to their discontent about The Histories of South and Northeast India 🇮🇳 is already bad enough (looks like other countries have a similar problem as ours and it’s NOT a good thing, I also came to know one example from a Malaysian 🇲🇾 commenter on this channel that parts of their history are being neglected like the existence of the Langkasuka Kingdom, part of Malaysia’s Pre-Islamic History) not to make an insensitive comparison here, but I am only speaking from my experiences being born and raised in SEAsia-in a region that prioritizes producing cheap labor to export out of the country (why do you think we’re “everywhere” but not much good media coverage) instead of molding future responsible Citizens to contribute to nation building, point is my country 🇵🇭 had it WORSE when it comes to neglect of (Pre-colonial history) History subject in school 🏫 which basically goes like this in Elementary and High-school level:
•Fast forward with outdated details about Early human migrations and some basics like the Barangay unit--WITHOUT going into detail the many Kingdoms and recorded peoples that used to exist here, along side their foreign relations with nearby neighbors and faraway places who also contributed to the enrichment of Ancient Filipino culture and especially of their achievements like a lot of Gold-work used in everyday things, gold thread 🧵 weaving, jewelry (ritual, religious, ornamental), ceremonial weapons, sculptures made of Gold (Golden Tara of Agusan), strong maritime cultural tradition and a whole lot more--and of the balangays (small support boats for bigger ships) that were used to transport peoples and goods
•Some foggy 🌫 details about the Early 1521 and Late 1898 Spanish 🇪🇸 period and contributions with one sided POV for needless vivification, real thing is a lot more nuanced but they brought some good and bad (guess who wrote the History books 📚 from our “DepEd”)
•American Period Featuring Slightly more cherry picked details (while omitting the unsavory essentials) to highlight needless romanticization of USA 🇺🇸 with the real thing being a lot more nuanced but has wrought a lot more damage to the psyche of the “Filipino people” like indebting Filipino businesses, manpower, military and political needs to making Philippines 🇵🇭 develop an unhealthy dependency on USA 🇺🇸 like the “Bell Trade Act” in a series of unfair treaties and strings attached political machinations
And that is just some awful truths that have to come out because there’s more to be exposed
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 Yep the Europeans fucked up the world history.
Glad to see a person from the present Dravidian state calling out the Colonial fake AIT nonsense.
Romba Nandri, Anna. With regards from a person in your neighbouring state.
no one says AIT is real lmao, AIT has been discarded by all historians worldwide, Now the prevalent theory is AMT.
Amazing stuff. Keep it up. We realy dont have such quality content about india. Well researched.
Glad you liked it!
It’s very sad ODIA people especially Odia people forgot about their maritime history. In Odisha people in November December season they gather celebrate a festival in riversides called balijatra. From ancient times Odia people ( especially sadwa caste ). takes a journey in November when winds from north to south. They make a stop in srilanka for refilling food and water then wait winds from west to east and reach Bali and return journey to India in April may to Sri Lanka to Kalinga country South Indian favourite breakfast IDLY made its way from indoasia. Like Kerala puttu.
Weird that this video wasn't recommended when uploaded although I've watched all video on this channel. I had to remember the name and search. Good video and I wish Indian school history books had this content.
Glad I subscribed. Glad to see more about Indian history and cultural influence.
Many thanks. Odd compass for bringing this wonderful video. I'm from Kochi and we use Cheena Vala " Chinese Fishing nets", Cheena Chatti "Chinese vessels for cooking"... Much more. Thanks again
Is Cheena Chatti a kind of wok. In Indonesia wok is the most popular cooking ware here, we call it wajan.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 Yes it's kind of a wok but not exactly like the Chinese ones a different version of it
At last ! Can't get enough of these videos.
Wow what a well researched video. Most Indians are unaware of this history.
Love ur very informative videos. Keep up the good work. God bless
India was so impressive at that time.
personally my favorite bit of history: asian maritime trade :)) love ur content
Well researched and executed way to go bro
Thank you so much for this info. Malaysian history books don't even talk about their hindu/buddha past and many things.
The Bad news 📰 here is School 🏫 textbooks 📚 are in practice NOT made for learning but for purposes of propaganda; to mold “factory workers” but not citizens with responsibilities and aspirations
I feel so sad 😞 whenever I hear such news 📰 parts of history that are NEGLECTED for the self interests of the powerful people
As if hearing about-neglected history-from Indians themselves to their discontent about The Histories of South and Northeast India 🇮🇳 is already bad enough (looks like other countries have a similar problem as ours and it’s NOT a good thing, I also came to know one example from a Malaysian 🇲🇾 commenter on this channel that parts of their history are being neglected like the existence of the Langkasuka Kingdom, part of Malaysia’s Pre-Islamic History) not to make an insensitive comparison here, but I am only speaking from my experiences being born and raised in SEAsia-in a region that prioritizes producing cheap labor to export out of the country (why do you think we’re “everywhere” but not much good media coverage) instead of molding future responsible Citizens to contribute to nation building, point is my country 🇵🇭 had it WORSE when it comes to neglect of (Pre-colonial history) History subject in school 🏫 which basically goes like this in Elementary and High-school level:
•Fast forward with outdated details about Early human migrations and some basics like the Barangay unit--WITHOUT going into detail the many Kingdoms and recorded peoples that used to exist here, along side their foreign relations with nearby neighbors and faraway places who also contributed to the enrichment of Ancient Filipino culture and especially of their achievements like a lot of Gold-work used in everyday things, gold thread 🧵 weaving, jewelry (ritual, religious, ornamental), ceremonial weapons, sculptures made of Gold (Golden Tara of Agusan), strong maritime cultural tradition and a whole lot more--and of the balangays (small support boats for bigger ships) that were used to transport peoples and goods
•Some foggy 🌫 details about the Early 1521 and Late 1898 Spanish 🇪🇸 period and contributions with one sided POV for needless vivification, real thing is a lot more nuanced but they brought some good and bad (guess who wrote the History books 📚 from our “DepEd”)
•American Period Featuring Slightly more cherry picked details (while omitting the unsavory essentials) to highlight needless romanticization of USA 🇺🇸 with the real thing being a lot more nuanced but has wrought a lot more damage to the psyche of the “Filipino people” like indebting Filipino businesses, manpower, military and political needs to making Philippines 🇵🇭 develop an unhealthy dependency on USA 🇺🇸 like the “Bell Trade Act” in a series of unfair treaties and strings attached political machinations
And that is just some awful truths that have to come out because there’s more to be exposed
Thank you for reading 📖 my comment that expresses my frustrations with the shitty Education system in Philippines 🇵🇭 I know this because I went through it; by further propagating the colonial narrative (of the 🇺🇸 92% consistent admiration worldwide REALLY!? that’s so fucking embarrassing 🤦🏽♀️ Your Historical and Cultural Amnesia is showing Philippines 🇵🇭) that should have been changed a long time ago after independence, the interests of the self serving manipulative powerful people (foreign or local) will only go on to be a living reality UNLESS adequate quality Education for the common people by the people is happening on a National scale and one that encourages National fraternity among the citizens of a nation wether it’s a homogeneous or Multi-ethnic Nation
You said it yourself that your History lessons in school 🏫 are bad right? whatever it is for your country of origin (insert random nation 🇲🇾 Here), that problem has to be addressed by a Nation’s people to consolidate and preserve their own cultures to avoid Historical distortions by foreign and local propaganda by being in touch with all aspects of one’s own history; nation
I mentioned to some people in the comments section as to WHO to approach on Quora (look at the answers content and their knowledge cuz NOT all are reliable) if anyone wants to learn more about Ancient Philippines 🇵🇭 (cuz I am still learning more like a student 👩🎓 and I am not a professional historian)
•Dayang Marikit
•John Carlos Dacilo
•Elijah Paul Castaneda
Additional sources (outside Quora):
•Pinoy Culture Tumblr
•Kirby Arullo the TH-camr
•DeviantArtist “dinosaurusgede”
•Ayala Museum (they have their own TH-cam channel)
Sejarah is just propaganda man.
What history book do u read? My text book speak about hindu/buddhist history right at the beginning. Stop with this nonsense.
I think the very early monks like Lokakṣema (लोकक्षेम) during the Kushan-Han period and later on Kumārajīva (कुमारजीव) during the Gupta-Jin Period, the Maritime route was not that popular and we hardly hear of monks using the maritime route before the 6th-7th century.
On the side note, I highly appreciate the fact that you used the Indian cultural realm or civilization, while depicting India on the map rather than just the present day geo-political entity called India which becomes confusing when reading the primary sources of history. This way it encapsulates the view of how the outsiders perceived when visiting India during that period of history even if it was politically fragmented.
And thanks for the new vid man, we missed you
I appreciate that!
@@OddCompass Bet, also I asked about the hindu, buddhist kingdoms of pakistan, afghanistan and central asia because I notice in this channel you talk about indian significance and its relation to the foreign world because it is very untouched on so I was wondering if you could cover that on the northwestern side.
@@OddCompass
Have you ever thought of making collaboration videos with TH-camrs who are also interested in the same topics as you are?
Edit: cuz I felt too vague here
I mentioned to some people in the comments section as to WHO to approach on Quora (look at the answers content and their knowledge cuz NOT all are reliable) if anyone wants to learn more about Ancient Philippines 🇵🇭 (cuz I am still learning more like a student 👩🎓 and I am not a professional historian)
•Dayang Marikit
•John Carlos Dacilo
•Elijah Paul Castaneda
Additional sources (outside Quora):
•Pinoy Culture Tumblr
•Kirby Arullo the TH-camr
•DeviantArtist “dinosaurusgede”
•Ayala Museum (they have their own TH-cam channel)
@@alsuvarnadvipadanargentum1743 I'll look into collaborations -- it's something I tend to shy away from, since I like to focus on my own style of video. But thanks for being a long-time viewer!
@@OddCompass
I also want to say this because I noticed that viewers pressure for more frequent videos can be too much for some people, for that requires a lot of planning to do
So It’s okay because I understand that:
Making quality content takes time, so the best way for you (content creator) to do that is for me (helpful viewer) to give you ideas for a future topic as a way of helping this channel even if I noticed that I am getting a bit naggy, hence why I said this because for some “businesses” quality pays more long term
I think it is important to note that while Song dynasty had proto-capitalist system, later dynasties starting with Yuan had aristocratic feudal system. Song accounted for more than 20% of world's GDP at the time, later dynasties were far behind.
It was richest Chinese empire too. With tang in second then qing and han
@@ShubhamMishrabro GDP does mean wealth
@@darkorodic638 huh?
@@ShubhamMishrabro The Song Dynasty was indeed very developed economically and invented many monetary systems such as paper money and so on. However, the biggest problem of the Song Dynasty was that its military was too weak. Therefore, the Song Dynasty is generally not considered as the golden age as the Tang Dynasty, Han Dynasty, and Ming Dynasty.
@@jutea9858 okay
Please keep these videos coming!
People and countries were so much connected back in time when there were less ways to communicate.
This indeed makes me emotional for some reason!
Thank you soo much for taking south indian history to world stage. Only few does this. Thanks for your geniune documentation 👏👏
Thank you for the effort you put into these videos!
As usual, great video. Pls do one on how commerce collapsed in North India, and how the invading Turkic forces gained a foothold
If India and China work seriously together on interstate commerce, it would create the BIGGEST market on Earth and in history. Too bad border issues and nationalism is making that dream very remote.
The main reason is expansionist mindset of china....they claim every land and sea as theirs
Make an video about Tamil temples built by Tamil kings outside India..👍
Yes!
Great video!!! the last 3 years i try to learn indian history !!! Your videos are gold!!! Greetings from Argentina!!!!!
Thanks!
Finally... Return of the king
Odd compass make an vidoe about Tamil civilization and how they differ from other civilizations in military, Language literature, politics and culture
There is already a video on Chola dynasty, though it mostly covers the Rajendra Era. I suggest you to read Ponniyin Selvan a novel that's set in timeline of his father Raja Raja Cholan and even though it's said to be given a twist of fiction, it should give a good look on the language arts and culture.
Please make more and more history of South India and North East India..
North east india was under Pragjyotisha kingdom upto 9th century. Later Burmese and Thai kings captured it
@@vve2059 lol nice joke 🤣🤣
Finally 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Fantastic information,
Thoroughly explained
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Man great topic I remember I had asked you for this topic 😱 I'm very happy now
This cannel is GOLD ❤️❤️
I didn't know we were so inter-connected in Asia. After the invasions and colonialism all this is almost forgotten in India.
It’s the same with many Asian countries that were colonized, (current shit education system in teaching History which goes for every country) until you look into your surroundings what school 🏫 hasn’t thought to all of us in Both material and immaterial manifestations of many older and newer cultural influences
3:35 tamil 😊😊 pallavas, cholas, cheras and pandyas had trade connection with many ancient countries and exported many goods
Semma bro. Love the Vadivelu dp lol
@@ArghyadeepPal 😅😅... Tq.... 😅
@@madeshshivam952 in Kannada kadaamba Vijayanagar chalukya rahstrakuta hoysala Mysore kingdom Tarde with also mainly Arabs and Persians srilanka and mayanmar pegu
@@pk8161 ok bro... I accept.. 😇
Love from maharashtra to all my Tamil bother and sister
Excellent video. That explains why Philippines call their aunts as 'ate' same as Tamils do.
"ate" in tagalog and other philippine languages comes from hokkien chinese "阿姊 (a-tsé)". we still say this in the contemporary philippine hokkien dialect of hokkien chinese language but pronounce it now as "阿姊 (á-tsí)". in kapampangan, the same word for elder sister is "atsi". it is still exactly the same....
if you want to know which tamil word is part of tagalog and other ph languages, a better example is "puto", the food. it comes from tamil "புட்டு (puṭṭu)"
I love this channel and recommend and share videos with my friends. Keep up the great work brother.
I appreciate that!
Tanq for using Tamil and Indian in appropriate places 👍🏽
I just love this channel.🔥🔥🔥
a point that i do want to raise, as a malaysian of tamil-descent, is that "keling" has become a racial slur against indians in malaysia and singapore
Interesting - sad to see that it is a slur in today’s world.
Why?
@@Abhishek-sr2pu the word has been appropriated by racists to target those of indian origin and especially dark skinned indians
aisyah don’t let the idiots decide your identity bro ,,, thamizhan enru sollada
@@syasol yes. As an Indian of northern descent (rajasthani) I feel suffocated when I hear such things...I have heard about the Malaysian people discriminating Indians in Malaysia. 💔
But stay strong. Our ancestors were brave and amazing people.
We must do them justice with our hard work.
Thanks for this video.
I love your work.
Hope in future you are going to a do video on historical significance of bengal.
Gangaredaye civilization, chandraketugar, Trade, politics, freedom movement, bhakti moment, burst of progressive n intellectual ideas, spread of buddhism etc
This is a very best TH-cam channel. Your text and graphics are both historically on point. You distinguished between the Song's clothing and the Yuan's clothing appropriately. You are educated and more importantly passionate in the discipline.
I like the way you end your videos xD, And now you know.
Singaporean here.
2:22 - 2:30 I think you are spot on here lol. When I was young my parents used to address people of South Asian descent as 'Keling kia' ('kia' in hokkien means a guy/dude) and I always wondered why this is so.
Of course, however, as we progress as a new nation such terms are slowly being phased out since we are now all residents/citizens of Singapore and we all speak English and have the same values (still WIP of course).
Commenting for the algorithm cuz videos are LIT
Tamilans influenced most of South East Asia and China's economy and culture... Cholas and Pallavas believed with Brahmin theories but they never loose their Tamil identity that's why Tamil and Sanskrit are in South East Asia and Tamil is national language of Singapore and minority language in Malaysia
Not exclusively to Brahmin theories , tamils are liberal to religion that's why you see Buddhist , jainist monks also influenced tamils ,
Tamil is one of recognized languages not national language of Singapore
@@knowledgedesk1653 no it's national language
@@user-ll6pr5cw1f official languages ! Bro
@@user-ll6pr5cw1f
Nah bro cholas are hardcore shaivites.
Do a video on the dynasty founded by the gonds, these tribals underrated, please give them their place in history that they deserve.
Amazing how maritime silk road is still used today
This video made my day, no it made my whole week!!!
Really happy to see you again. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, glad to hear it!
Thanks, Asian history is such a mystery to westerns
Pls pls pls more more more vedios on INDIAN HISTORY....
BIG FAN BRO