Play Better Golf - Jim Venetos Golf Academy Training Week 5 - Golf Test Dummy
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- Play Better Golf - Jim Venetos Golf Academy Training Week 5 - Golf Test Dummy
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If I am going to improve my golf game beyond the 9.5 handicap that carry now, something has to change. In looking at the stats I track, a glaring weakness stands out; I don't hit many fairways and greens in my rounds despite taking a conservative approach to do just that.
Strategy is so crucial to playing great golf. Not just in how you play each hole, but in your club selection, shot selection, and your commitment to each shot. I have improved in some of those areas greatly over the last year, but what good is a sound strategy if you can't EXECUTE?
Commitment to each shot is vital. Commitment can be directly tied to confidence. Confidence comes from predictability. If I'm not producing the same basic shot shape and fairly tight grouping, then I really can't predict whats going to happen with a tee shot or an approach. How can I possibly commit to a particular shot if I have no idea if it's going to fly left or right? Hook or stay straight? Be solid or a a bit light?
Enter Jim Venetos. I recently stumbled across his videos and what he teaches lines up with what I need to get over this hump. His approach to the swing removes arbitrary movements like weight shift and rotation to give you the best possible chance at returning the club right back to the same spot from where it started. This lends itself to solid, consistent contact, with an almost automatic swing path, virtually guaranteeing predictable ball flight and tighter grouping.
This is week 5 of my 3 month commitment to work with Jim through this system. Each week, I will vlog and share my progress with you, so that you can see an honest review and decide if this may be of help. It's worth noting that Jim makes himself very available to you and works hand in hand with your development through video analysis, site interaction, and email. He will even talk with you on the phone if needed.
Last week, I worked on full swings and the Downswing Drill. This week I am still working on the drill, and I am pushing harder to reach a skilled level with all of my irons. My one swing thought as always is STILLNESS. This week has been tough in particular because I am moving my family over 2 hours away. Selling, buying, packing, and unpacking. It has been tricky to find time to practice.
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Seems like you don’t have your right foot drawn back line Jim demonstrates it the stillness is great!
Week 5 - This was a tough week. I am in the process of moving half way across the state, I have been loading trucks and cars and had very little time for practice. I managed to squeeze in a bucket at the driving range to work on my irons. This will probably be my last time here, since I will have to find new courses and new ranges. Thanks for watching! Give me a thumbs up and a comment.
The sound your ball club contact makes is awesome. I agree get on the train or off.
Very much appreciated! I can feel the quality of the strike and it's improving.
Thank you for this video. I have been on the fence with trying Jim's membership. I've tried this swing at the range with a lot of success one day and ready to ditch it after another session. The longer clubs are a challenge. I think it is s time for me to decide to go all in or keep being inconsistent. I like your attitude. Don't give up!
Thanks so much! When I started, this was an experiment. To simply put it to the test and see how the chips fell. I tried to be somewhat impartial but Jim is so incredibly helpful and insightful, it's hard not to buy in to the methodology. The support and help you get is far better than any customer service you'll get anywhere. He doesn't pay me, I owe him nothing, these are my genuine feelings. It's not always easy and you don't get anything handed to you, but if you trust him and the process and follow it without cheating yourself, the road to better golf is waiting.
Did you ever go all in? How'd it turn out?
I spent a long time, about 6 to 8 months on this review. Lots of videos since this one.
Thanks for doing this. I’m also an academy student and your journey helps me more fully understand the work needed to succeed.
No problem Mike! Very happy that I can help.
It was evident that you started your set up with straight legs and then bent the forward leg in the swing.I always concentrate on starting with a firm bent forward leg and push down on this when I start the swing.This works and maintains the weight on the front side.
Bob I will give that a try. It has evolved for me over the course of the training. I have no doubt t it will continue to evolve. One thing I know for sure that was a mistake is that I set my feet lined up to the target and turned my shoulders closed. I now know how helpful it is to close my stance as well.
@@GolfTestDummy I also close my stance by pulling my trail foot back a few inches but I need to as I am 77 years old and need any help I can get to perform the full turn in the swing..Jimm,s swing has revitalised my golf and I am hitting much cleaner shots now>
I want to thank you GTD for your series on JVGA swing assessment.
Like Kirk Bryan below I tried this swing on the range without anything more than TH-cam video clips from Jim. The result was impressive for me. I was getting consistent strike ( unusual for me) and draw shots ( I fade every thing) even with my Driver ! Accuracy was pretty good as long as I kept my weight forward and kept still and didn't try to knock the socks off the ball. When I didn't, the fade tail off came back as well as a push flight. I use single length irons which I think is easier with this swing. Between GW and 5 iron I only have to get used to one swing. My hybirds are both 3 iron lenght. and took a bit of getting used to with the JV method. Strangely the 4 wood is a weapon with the JV swing and I have never been more confident with the Driver.
Long story cut short I signed up last week with JVGA and I think it is good value. It is mid- winter here in Southern Australia and the golf course is muddy. I hope to see a significant improvement in my golf this coming golf season.
Great decision. I'm telling you. I don't get paid for my endorsement of Jim's way. This is my honest assessment and I try to keep it as real as possible. Trust him and do as he says. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a complete game approach.
You’re doing an awesome job , I love the sound of the great contact it sounds very solid ,would be interested in seeing some more side on shots of how far you’re ahead of the ball ,could you show some of those please thanks ! Allen P.
Will do and thanks! I plan on doing a video next week that is an overview of all I have learned in 12 weeks. My approach to it, tips, where I was wrong in the beginning, before and afters, etc.
What kind of grip do you use ? Both hands strong or just the right ?
I have always kept my palms kind of facing each other. As a unit. So when you pivot, then take your grip, both hands tend to come on to the club strong.
Going well. I tried the system through the winter. Jim's support was excellent, I tried hard but I didn't quite get it working for me.
Your videos has reminded how brilliant this concept is and I will try once more to conquer and master it, with Jim's help & support.
Signing up is the key!
Good luck 😎
Great to hear Alan. I still have more work to do. By no means a master. But at least I have felt what it is supposed to be and now my body call recall it.
Really cool you're doing this. As I mentioned before I've just started with his program. I first saw his swing method and went out on my own to my practice facility and just went at it. I was quite surprised how well I was striking my wedge and 9i. Crisp, nice draw. Before I had consulted with Jim and joined his academy I of course pulled out my longer clubs and tried it. I smoked a 3H and even managed to hit a few drives absolutely beautiful. I was still hitting some poor shots and wondered what I was doing wrong. That's when I went to Jim's website and eventually joined. Now I'm working with Jim and he's done a few video analyses with me. I love this method. I admit I have some apprehension about taking it to the course but also some excitement at the same time. Really liking this though and looking forward to working my through the bag properly. So, I'm right there with ya friend. Good luck!
That's awesome! I knew coming in that I didn't want to set my progress back by taking it to the course too early. You need your swing to be almost auto pilot before trying to play the game at a decent level. It takes a lot of discioline and restraint to stay off the course. It's so hard not to go out and play.
Did you stick with Jim’s system?
@@bmatt9379 I’m still using his method yes. But I don’t follow the school anymore.
Thanks. How long did you follow the school? I’ve watched his you tube videos and tried the swing with intermittent success. I’m guessing the school is much more in depth.
I've done several swing reviews since. I can still switch to it, and it still has some influence on me.
Another good video GTD...9 iron 7 iron look great...4iron and long clubs get in our head. I have even thought about single length clubs. you look so effortless and balanced and upright...great work.
Thank you sir! Very much appreciated. I thought about 1 length also, but wedges and woods are still varying, so my conclusion was I would still have to deal with multiple lengths. At the end of the day though, it's all about putting the ball in the hole.
I see great progress. Stay with it man, inspirational for me
Much appreciated!
The swing looks effortless. Love that feeling when you feel like you only swing at 50% and the ball just takes off. Working on trying to groove that myself. Consider replacing 4i with a hybrid?
Thanks! Yeah when that happens, it's a great feeling and that is what hooks people on the game. I have a hybrid but its 19 degrees. I will get it locked in before too long. Thanks for watching!
If you listen to this video closely you can hear the club whip thru when it’s good contact
Thanks for bringing up the limited flight of the driving range balls. That would sometimes frustrate me.
No problem. It's a factor that many people either don't know about or that they don't consider when evaluating their results.
Most golfers don't play a 4 iron they play hybrids or hybrid type irons. Most golfers don't have the club speed to make anything past a 6 or 7 fly or carry properly
Thanks for the latest video GTD, it looks great. Just as with the down the line drill, I am still struggling with the move down to the 4 iron. My misses tend to be a duck hook as well as a big block out to the right. My golf mentor and fellow academy member was wondering if you could share Jim’s responses to your latest videos?
Thanks! Yeah, I assumed the longer the club, the more demanding. I mentioned in my submission video to Jim that I felt like the 4 iron was really toe up. He said his longer clubs are toe up as well, since the shaft flexes down on the swing, which levels the sole. I also mentioned my lower body movement and he said it was a little sloppy for my goal. My goal is scratch, so I have to set my sights on higher standards than someone who wants to be a 6 or 8 handicap. I completely agreed with his assessment. I will get there. I know I am not nearly as still as I ultimately hope to be, but as long as I make progress, it will come.
very interesting. hadn’t heard that about the sole leveling out. and as always, it all comes down to stillness. thanks for sharing the feedback!
Watching your video we’re is your ball position
You have what I think is a natural connection between your right knee and your back swing...so the right knee keeps moving. I guess you have to break that connection...which might be why Jim says to not even think about the arms...think about stillness, and let the arms do what they do.
I am getting better each day, but still have a lot to learn.
@@GolfTestDummy I get it...of course, this is one of those rare situations, where less really is more :-)
When I hear that click when I hit the ball, I've hit it correctly. 😉
Hi mate just came across your videos. Watched them all. Then watched all of Jim's vids. You've been on a journey and it is diffently paying off for you. Good luck. I am going to try this method also. Everyone likes to play a draw but my question is how do you play a (Fade) with this style of play or have I missed something in the videos.
Thanks so much! I have played a few fades and you certainly can. Jim doesn't devote many videos to it, but if you're a student, he can teach you. He's a great coach.
If you were at a point where you had to pick a method to stay with, would you have one in mind? I personally like your Veneto Swing the best as you look well balanced, and free from tension. I’m a firm believer if you eliminate any obvious appearance of effort your results will be much better. Not looking for your answer to my question, just wondering.
It's a tough one, because at various points through the years and swings, I've been able to find great stuff. This swing method was really great at times, but mostly for irons and wedges. Longer clubs were never great.
Hey man, great stuff! I'm right there with you. I'm a member but been on hiatus with my work but I've been going through the curriculum. Dumb question.....how are you sending him videos? Through TH-cam or differently? I really enjoy your breakdown and I can totally relate. Thanks!
Not a dumb question at all. Videos, even short ones, can be tough to send. Email and text will normally tell you the file is too large. I am lucky enough that it just works for me through email. If it didn't, I would probably have to uae Dropbox or another app.
Curious your yardages you are getting. Would love if you share. Thanks!
I will be putting up a video this week and I hope to mention that as well as some updates. I have been moving for the last 2 weeks so I haven't been able to get to the range as often. I am just starting to really feel things click and I don't see a drop in distance through my 5 iron. I haven't gotten to my woods yet, so I can't speak on that. I will surely tell all I can as I continue and keep everyone posted.
Have you had to adjust your grip at all?
My grip adjusted instantly once I pivoted, then took my grip on the club. I have a whole series on this method. Videos from now on will take a bit of a different path.
Hi gtd, were is your ball position when hitting your best shots in this video? Thanks
Jim always said you can play the ball anywhere, but for me, it was easier to stay more still when I played it back a bit. Toward the middle of my feet.
At address do you point the clubface where you want the ball to start or finish.
I am still in a bit of an experimental phase really. Normally and for now, I am the face at the finish and my feet the same spot. Then my shoulders close to basically create where the ball will start. That said, Jim sent my latest video analysis and has asked me just before I swing to drop my right foot back a couple of inches. So what I have been doing may very well change. It is different for everyone and like Jim says, the ball flight will be what it is, you adjust your aim accordingly, rather than change your swing.
How far ahead of the ball should you be?
Jim sayd he "gets as far ahead of the ball as possible". For me, it really depends on the lie, the shot, the flight, and the curvature that I want. The further you get ahead, the more curve and the lower the flight. So ball position is relative. I would say get to where you feel confident and where the resulting flight is what you want.
Thanks for replying buddy. I play it from the middle of my stance and I push it far left. The striking is excellent just goes left all the time instead of straight down the middle or with the draw he promised. But thanks again for replying you are great! Will try play around with ball positioning...looks like I need to put it way behind. I always feel wacky doing things that stray from traditional swing I guess...I feel like I'm sinning lol
Try some single length clubs.
I have thought about that often.
I don't doubt that they would have the potential to help my iron game be simpler. But, it's my understanding that the weight of the clubs has to be manipulated to correct yardage gapping, which would make me have to engage a different "feel" with each iron.
Also, hybrids, wedges, woods, and driver would still be different lengths, so where it would reduce 13 swings down to less, there would be a significant jump in length of shaft from 7 iron standard iron length to 19 degree hybrid.
My hypothesis is that the relationship between woods and irons would suffer and the space between them would leave you either as a good iron player or a good woods player, with the rare occasion being someone who had the ability to play both equally well, considering the vast difference between them.
That said, I would love to try a set, LOL.
@@GolfTestDummy You do over analyze . Keep it simple. Its a simple swing. get your irons figure out first. LOL.
See? LOL.
@@GolfTestDummy Love the thought process. Keep it up and have fun. Love your videos.
@@GolfTestDummy Cobra makes the single length hybrids.