I bought this....this thing is awesome...yes it's simply built and I would not call it a HEAVY DUTY piece of equipment - but it does not have to be. Biggest complaint about it I have seen is that the weights swing back and forth when using it....that is TRUE. Other vids have shown that if you attach a chain or something to the bottom of the weight holding strap - the swinging goes away. I have chains and can verify that swinging is reduced by 95%. Great cheap product. Today did pullups with bands with mutliple grips(wide/narrow/supinated) super set with lat pulls using this pulley superset with landmine 1 arm rows using Meadow Row attachment - WHAT A PUMP!
I go to a powerlifting/Olympic lifting/strongman gym and my gym uses this. I actually like it a lot and I had the same thoughts you did. It's been used a lot and is still in good condition.
If you have a friend who sails and especially sail racing, have them look at this video and they will help you out. There is hitech ball bearing blocks who opens up (so you can take the line/rope out) and hitech ropes and lines that takes more load than that wire but is easy to cut and adjust and smooth as hell. Greetings from a swedish sailor!
Ok I commented before without watching, and for tricep pull downs it does suck because of the cable length but I'm totally digging this product. I put in work with it daily. Guess I can go right ahead and still make that video after all
Been meaning to make a video on the pulley for like 3 months now. Procrastination at its finest! Good pick up, get a variety of handles/attachments and you'll be good to go. Also grease it up a little so it doesn't make any noise
I've had mine for about 8 months and I'm pretty happy with it. Not the best fit and finish, but it's heavy duty and gets the job done. I'll be getting their low cable add on shortly so I can do cable rows.
+Brandon Campbell I've used it twice for some low cable rows. Just like the lat pulley the low pulley may not have the best fit and finish. It works well for what it's intended to do. The strap that attaches to the rack is shorter than the lat pulley version so it does place me in a perfect spot for low rows. Set up is a little bit of a pain since you have to improvise a place to put your feet. I use my Rogue Monster bench and place a pair of 100lb plates on top and it doesn't move even on my heaviest set. For what it is I;m happy with it. Ideally a high/low setup with a 300lb. pin stack would be ideal, but I lack the space and adding dumbbells is higher on my list of gym priorities.
If your elbows are sore I recommend using strong resistance bands for tricep extensions. Just hook the band in the rack and do a total of 100-200 reps. Gets the blood flowing and will build great tricep strength because of the increasing resistance.
+jpp500 I've done that in the past, but kind of defeats the purpose as higher intensity/lower reps than 100-200 would be more ideal for progression IMO
Get an I bolt and heavy duty carbiner at Home Depot and some washers. You will be bolt the i bolt through the existing holes in the rack you have. Then you can hook the carbiner to the I bolt and slip the pulley on and off. There are also hook bolts which you could use and skip the carbiner though the hook bolt may flex open due to the tension.
Mount an eye bolt (I use a TRX Mount) to your ceiling and attach with a carabiner. Will add height so you won't have to back up/"get on your knees". Also makes set up quicker. My initial impressions were the same. However it has held up. I have used it at least once a week with weights up to (3) 45lb plates.
Man we have one at our gym and we love it man it takes a beating but still works like a charm. We do lat pull downs tricep work face pulls low/high rows all kinds of fun shit! Give it time you'll dig it! Great channel too man love all the stuff you put out!
+Brandon Campbell For a little more than $30, you can definitely build something nicer (get the pulleys online from a place that specializes in them). You'll need to use a few more pulleys and some wood. It won't "look" professional but it will work way better. Main think it will do for you is keep the weights from swinging around, and allow you to pull the cable perpendicular to the ground for tricep push down and parallel to the ground for rowing. I was going to get your system too, but saw some real cool ideas on YT. Good luck!
I bought the Rogue Loading Pin. Using chains for a loading weight worked well from the start know it keeps snapping off. Know I'm using a backpack or a strap depending on what exercises I'm doing with my cable pulley system until it comes.
No complaints here. My set has 2 pulleys so i can pull straight down for push downs. I also added carabiners to the pulley my straps for quick attachments.
Brandon, I know u like Ironmaster. I have the Ironmaster cable attachment for the Ironmaster bench. I love it! Use it all the Tim, and just leave it attached to the IM bench. It takes Oly weights, is smooth as hell, has upper and lower pulls, and is rated for 250# in plates. If you wanna FaceTime me I can show u (I don't do TH-cam vids) on my iPad. Steve.
Sure, sure. Few reviews online, but just DM me if you want me to Facetime you sometime when I'm by my machine. Nothing bad to say about it, really. It is $349 though (and $249 more if you don't yet have an IM bench to which it must be attached). Cheers, Brandon.
I've had mine for a year or two, no issues yet. Seems to hold up well. You need to buy a press down straight bar attachment. The straps they give you are way too long, which makes them much better for neutral grip lat pull-downs. Straight bar push-downs FTW.
Hey Brandon, You're right that landmine you've got is a pain to use. You may not want to give up on it though. Talk to your buddies at Rogue and see if you can trade that landmine in for the one the one that mounts to the rack. I think you'll like that one a lot better.
Shorter cable, hang it from the rack with the rouge attachement, get a single chains to hang from the bottom of the weights, so its in the ground while pulling (look at what Clint Darden is doing).
How tall are you/how tall is this rack? I am thinking about buying this.However, the cable looks way too long to even be able to do a lat pull down + the angle looks like it would hit you in the face with the weights.
Thanks for sharing this. I saw it on their website a few weeks ago and was seriously considering it. Definitely questioned how "simple" it looked, so this confirms my impressions
Interesting; how high bar hurts your elbows? As I do it, the bar sits on the traps and your hands are just support. I dont do low bar because it hurts my elbows very bad since they get large load on them, or just I am doing wrong.
I wouldn't be worried about the quality. I've had mine for a while now and beat the shit out of it and it holds up perfectly fine. One annoying this is the plates tend to sway and move around a lot causing you to have to settle the weights mid set.
I was interested in this or at least a diy version, but Always felt the weight would begin to sway as you preform the movement. I think some guys run another cable/rope to help in stabilizing but then it becomes tedious with the setup. I lucked out and was able to pickup a plate loaded lat pulldown for $80 on CL. Hope you get good use out of it. Quick question, why do you use the wedge more than the jack??
Brandon - so you made this video awhile ago. Do you still use the Spud Econo Tricep Lat Pulley? I am thinking about getting it because it does seem like an inexpensive way to add lat pulls and triceps to a Power rack...although for just triceps I have found that using real high quality resistance bands looped over the pull up bar and using them for pushdowns, etc can give a phenomenal pump. Thanks
Hey Brandon. Awesome video. I own a training facility in SE Tennessee and have one of these on every rack in the gym. Like you, I was underwhelmed when I made the initial purchase and set it up for the first time. However, after using it for a while I've come to appreciate it for what it is; A very good alternative to a very expensive cable crossover (which we have...and it literally breaks at least 3X/month). I also have the additional set up on each rack which allows the cable to run down and attach near the bottom of the rack for creating a seated cable row. Definitely requires some ingenuity when doing pressdowns (I do them kneeling on a rogue ballistic block) but it's worth the money IMO. It has held up REALLY well, also. Probably used by 100+ people a week, from general pop to heavyweight PLers and haven't had any issues. Just my two cents. Adam
Adam, your post was 4 years ago. Are they still holding up? I also read Spud improved on the cables and they are now nylon coated when before they weren't and fraying would happen quickly. I am looking into this as I desperately need something to do my lat and tricep pull downs for home use due to COVID-19 shutting down the gyms I go to. Thank you.
Have you tried flossing your elbow? I had some shoulder issues and after few weeks of flossing them , shoulder mobility is getting a lot better and virtually no pain anymore. Heard that flossing your elbows might help with the tennis elbow etc. Bought the mobility floss bands from Rogue
Tie a knot on the silver cable close to where it attaches with the weight to make it shorter. I would've just stuck to bands but this doesn't seem too bad.
+Brandon Campbell Maybe try asking for a second pulley and then just make the track longer. If you want a cheap but ugly solution you can always buy a 2x4 drill two holes at half the distance you want to shorten it by run the wire in a loop through the holes. This would look ghetto as hell tho but would get the job done.
Happy with mine, though the handles tend to dig in to my hands, especially when doing overhead tricep cable extensions... I'm thinking I'll get a normal tricep rope attachment. Cable rows work out well, sitting on the floor, feet planted to base of rack, using a close grip cable row attachment. Mines attached to a regular Rogue pull up cross bar, so can easily be shifted over to the edge of the rack and out of the way... kind of...
I would think if it had a second pulley (one each for front and back support bar), it might be a bit more functional. On a budget and thought about picking this up as an alternative to a lat attachment to my rack but had the same reservations as you did.
+Brandon Campbell How does the beyonce like the home gym? I think early on you had said you had bought some stuff since she was going to use it as well
The only thing that's really gone are the plates, I upgraded to competition steel plates. I would suggest someone who is starting out to just worry about the basics at first: rack, weights, bench, barbell. Then see what you find you need most and buy as you go.
Brandon where did you buy the deadwedge? You have a link to benefit you if we buy it? Found a place fast for 11 bucks but every penny you can earn helps.
Their belts are alright... I liked my velcro Spud Inc belt. But after about a year, well guess more like year and a 1/2 or so use the velcro started slipping mid pulls and eventually mid squat. That is definitely not a good feeling. I got the one with the ratchet strap and its pretty decent, definitely isnt going to slip but theres not much rigidity in the middle of the belt where it ratchets so it'll slide around a little on your stomach depending.
Have you tried bands for these exercises Brandon? You can add great quality bands to your set up for relatively low costs and they are fantastic. Whether it's for direct tricep/bicep work, adding or removing resistance on the core lifts or whatever else, for me they beat out any cable system.
+Gary McStay Hey Gary, I actually have quite a bit of bands and have used them in the past, but it's tough to add adequate resistance to get the percentages to be where I want.
It's cool that you stepped outside of yourself to pick this up; I would like to ask tho now that you have it do you think you could make something equally (or more) effective from parts from home depot? (for way less money)
+Jay C Many people seem to think so, but the time and supplies would likely be as expensive if not more, not to mention, would end up with a lower build quality IMO
ah, sorry to hear the Spud inc isn't working out for you. in Chicago I see light industrial/commercial used lat pulls or high/low cable machines all the time on craigslist...
u understand u can get a 2nd pulley and attach it to the front pull up bar i.e. hence shortening the cable length so u can do tri pushdowns.Also its called a Economy tri / lat pulley system for a good reason, u get what u pay for mate ;-)
+Brandon Campbell i guess spud inc can't cater for a whole range of different height power rack's & cages.i looked at buying this and knew by the specs on the product it would be slightly longer than expected.
Brandon Campbell Diamond You mentioned it for elbow health though. For elbow health those higher rep ranges are great, but you could still just use bands for lower reps?
I've had this a while and use it pretty often (twice a week). I guess it feels cheap because well... It is cheap. The alternative for me would be a pulldown machine costing thousands which I don't have room for anyway. For me it's the best compromise. I've had 120kgs for pulldowns on it and it's stood up fine so far.
I am in the same boat. And now with all the gym closures due to COVID-19, I am desperate to find something for my lat and tricep pull downs. But, I don't live in a big enough space to have a machine. Where I live buying anything larger than a condo is in the 1.2 million dollar range. So, we live in small spaces here. Has this held up and are you still using this after 4 years?
why not just get one of those multipurpose cable stations? Like the ones that you can do cable flys, cable x overs, and all your other cable needs? Thats what I would do if I was building a home gym. Cable station, power rack, bench, barbell, a bunch of plates and a bunch of dumbbells or a set of those crappy dumbbells where you can adjust the weight on the same db's.
+Brandon Campbell I always feel like I get the best Tricep progress with cables. Actually, my whole Tricep routine is pretty much cable work other than a few sets of close grip or reverse grip bench.
+ADAPT ONE I think they're solid as well, but with limited space and the cost of a full on station just do 3 sets of press downs it doesn't make much sense for me.
I made one myself for my rogue rack for around $25 with just some supplies from Home Depot. Essentially the exact same thing. I didn't see the value in the spud inc one either.
I used the same specs as far as the pulley and cable goes but I had to bolt my pulley instead of having that wrap around strap. Also, I had to use my own tricep attachments like the rope and v handle, etc. For the part that holds the plates, at first I just used a chain like you would for weighted dips, but now I use something very similar to what the spud inc one comes with that I got from another piece so in reality if I were to add it all up I probably have around $60-75 in it. Ive used the spud inc one and mine feels the same but with the time it took me to work out the kinks I probably could've just bought the one you have and been fine. lol
+Kenny Taylor Appreciate the insight into your custom build. I love the dead wedge, was a life saver when I went to my other gym and could just throw it in my bag with me. At $10 you can't really go wrong.
Try doing overhead tricep extensions. It feels smooth that way and since you are taller you won't need to kneel. Face pulls also feel smooth. Not a big fan of pulldowns on this thing. I'd rather do pull-ups.
@@BasementBrandon - Thank you Brandon. How long did you use it for before you sold it? And why do you like it better than the Slinger? I am looking at buying the Spud from Rogue as well, but I want to ensure its a good investment as its almost 200 dollars. I live in a small space with no room for a proper cable station set up so, I am looking for other options.
@Joe Solo - I am still trying to decide on what to buy. With the COVID-19 and the gyms shutting down temporarily, I am trying to figure out what other equipment I can add to my home gym set-up so, I can do my full weekly workout routine at home. I prefer to go to the gym as I don't have alot of space for a proper home gym set-up.
@Joe Solo - Great! Is it holding up and working for you? Gyms have been given the go ahead to open in my city so, I don't have to buy this anymore. I was able to use heavy GO FIT bands for my lat and tricep pull-downs.
+Brandon Campbell oh well then Ill put my energy into the universe and hope you get a deal mate.. Who are we fooling, 5 years down the track Im sure you will have a decent gym set up in the basement lol lat pull down machine, cable row, pec deck and cable flys lol labour of love itll be worth it... As long as the Mrs is happy with it haha
Hey, dude. Good video. I agree with you on the lack of impression this product made on me but like you, I also needed some kind of lat/tri pulley system and was attracted by the DIY simplicity of this. I bought two Rogue loading pins and researched a bit more into this type of setup's hardware. I just ordered all the necessary parts to build my own from e - rigging dot com (minus the spaces) and made sure each item was of high durable quality. I actually bought two pulleys and enough cable, carabiners and wire clips to get two of these up side by side and start doing cable crossovers at home. I might have paid a bit more than what two of these Spuds would have cost me but I'm confident in the durability and quality of all the parts purchased. Parts list: 2 x 1/4" Cable x 2-1/2" Diameter Swivel Eye Block 10 x 7/16" Stainless Steel Spring Snap Link (as you mentioned, for a convenient quick release of pulley and to attach loading pins and handles to cable) 1/4" X 200', 7x19, Vinyl Coated Galvanized Cable Reel (probably easier and cheaper to go to local hardware store and buy your particular lengths of cable there but i decided to get a reel) 8 x 1/4" Drop Forged Wire Rope Clip
obviously you are sponsored by Rogue because it'd be fair dinkum unbelievable that you'd spend a fortune on Rogue toys but criticise a simple product from Spud that does exactly what it promises to do because it's not pretty enough and is made from "heavy duty canvas straps and some metal wire cable". The Spud product is 25% of the cost of the average cable pulldown attachment. A basic understanding of the physics around the strength and weight-bearing abilities of cables and pulleys might help you appreciate Spud-style products, which are an obvious threat to the over-built and over-priced (but nicely powder-coated and neatly labelled) Rogue stuff
I guess, you could just say that band work is for a set of 100 or do max reps in a certain time frame. I have been personally doing that for the past month or two and have seen my main lifts going up at least.
Why didnt you hide some welder and built your own rack,bench, and other things you want its 10 times cheaper and higher quality. only things I would bug is weight and bars
You might want to just send it back Brandon for the amount of money it cost you could either make ur own or find another one your gym is so nice to have something u half way like
it looks like you could've bought a pulley like this and a bit of rope in a hardware store.. pay $25 and the effect would've been identical.. the position you had in those push downs/backs didn't seem very comfortable.. ps how about some Q&A? that's always fun ;)
I bought this....this thing is awesome...yes it's simply built and I would not call it a HEAVY DUTY piece of equipment - but it does not have to be. Biggest complaint about it I have seen is that the weights swing back and forth when using it....that is TRUE.
Other vids have shown that if you attach a chain or something to the bottom of the weight holding strap - the swinging goes away. I have chains and can verify that swinging is reduced by 95%. Great cheap product.
Today did pullups with bands with mutliple grips(wide/narrow/supinated) super set with lat pulls using this pulley superset with landmine 1 arm rows using Meadow Row attachment - WHAT A PUMP!
Thanks for the feedback
May I ask you if you still use it and has it held up after 2 years?
Great thanks 👍 how's it holding up
@@SilkyShish Yes - as a matter of fact I used it again yesterday....for tricep pushdowns and also overhead triceps. It has held up great,
@@joesilkwood4958 Holding up great still using it quite often
I go to a powerlifting/Olympic lifting/strongman gym and my gym uses this. I actually like it a lot and I had the same thoughts you did. It's been used a lot and is still in good condition.
+Omar Venus appreciate the feedback!
It does seem a bit crappy in terms of design/quality but if it means you making videos on your knees then I for one am happy you bought it
+MattDoesFitness will PM them to you
+Brandon Campbell you must be a tall dude...is your power rack 90" tall?
+Manuel Garcia I had a few inches shaved off to fit my ceiling so it's more around 87"
If you have a friend who sails and especially sail racing, have them look at this video and they will help you out. There is hitech ball bearing blocks who opens up (so you can take the line/rope out) and hitech ropes and lines that takes more load than that wire but is easy to cut and adjust and smooth as hell. Greetings from a swedish sailor!
+BarbecueFitness Thanks for the suggestion!
Ok I commented before without watching, and for tricep pull downs it does suck because of the cable length but I'm totally digging this product. I put in work with it daily. Guess I can go right ahead and still make that video after all
fuck off fatty
Been meaning to make a video on the pulley for like 3 months now. Procrastination at its finest! Good pick up, get a variety of handles/attachments and you'll be good to go. Also grease it up a little so it doesn't make any noise
+Endomorphbeast Thanks for the heads up!
I've had mine for about 8 months and I'm pretty happy with it. Not the best fit and finish, but it's heavy duty and gets the job done. I'll be getting their low cable add on shortly so I can do cable rows.
+joerapo Nice, let me know how you like them.
+Brandon Campbell I've used it twice for some low cable rows. Just like the lat pulley the low pulley may not have the best fit and finish. It works well for what it's intended to do. The strap that attaches to the rack is shorter than the lat pulley version so it does place me in a perfect spot for low rows.
Set up is a little bit of a pain since you have to improvise a place to put your feet. I use my Rogue Monster bench and place a pair of 100lb plates on top and it doesn't move even on my heaviest set. For what it is I;m happy with it. Ideally a high/low setup with a 300lb. pin stack would be ideal, but I lack the space and adding dumbbells is higher on my list of gym priorities.
If your elbows are sore I recommend using strong resistance bands for tricep extensions. Just hook the band in the rack and do a total of 100-200 reps. Gets the blood flowing and will build great tricep strength because of the increasing resistance.
+jpp500 I've done that in the past, but kind of defeats the purpose as higher intensity/lower reps than 100-200 would be more ideal for progression IMO
Get an I bolt and heavy duty carbiner at Home Depot and some washers. You will be bolt the i bolt through the existing holes in the rack you have. Then you can hook the carbiner to the I bolt and slip the pulley on and off. There are also hook bolts which you could use and skip the carbiner though the hook bolt may flex open due to the tension.
+Lifting Dad Yeah I think I might just pick up the Rogue attachment for it.
Mount an eye bolt (I use a TRX Mount) to your ceiling and attach with a carabiner. Will add height so you won't have to back up/"get on your knees". Also makes set up quicker. My initial impressions were the same. However it has held up. I have used it at least once a week with weights up to (3) 45lb plates.
Yeah the only issue is I don't want to bolt anything to the ceiling
Hi bro, nice video. Could you tell me how is the weight of the pulley? Thanks
pretty light
+Brandon Campbell how many pounds or gr?
Man we have one at our gym and we love it man it takes a beating but still works like a charm. We do lat pull downs tricep work face pulls low/high rows all kinds of fun shit! Give it time you'll dig it! Great channel too man love all the stuff you put out!
+Jason Carver Right on!
You can just make one for under $30. the supplies are home depot.
Alright MacGyver
+xWebbyJoe Not up to these specs.
+Brandon Campbell For a little more than $30, you can definitely build something nicer (get the pulleys online from a place that specializes in them). You'll need to use a few more pulleys and some wood. It won't "look" professional but it will work way better. Main think it will do for you is keep the weights from swinging around, and allow you to pull the cable perpendicular to the ground for tricep push down and parallel to the ground for rowing. I was going to get your system too, but saw some real cool ideas on YT. Good luck!
+Jesus Heyzeus Go make one for $21. Would love to see :)
I'll make one and show it. Seriously, just not for under $30 but less than that of the Spud Inc.
I bought the Rogue Loading Pin. Using chains for a loading weight worked well from the start know it keeps snapping off. Know I'm using a backpack or a strap depending on what exercises I'm doing with my cable pulley system until it comes.
Good thinking
@@BasementBrandon Yeah but still it's a pain in the neck to set up and make sure it works well.
No complaints here. My set has 2 pulleys so i can pull straight down for push downs. I also added carabiners to the pulley my straps for quick attachments.
+kds471 nice!
"I just don't feel like it's very high quality *MY OTHER ISSUE IS*"
Mic placement :)
Brandon, I know u like Ironmaster. I have the Ironmaster cable attachment for the Ironmaster bench. I love it! Use it all the Tim, and just leave it attached to the IM bench. It takes Oly weights, is smooth as hell, has upper and lower pulls, and is rated for 250# in plates. If you wanna FaceTime me I can show u (I don't do TH-cam vids) on my iPad. Steve.
+coolkayaker1 I'll have to give it a look!
Sure, sure. Few reviews online, but just DM me if you want me to Facetime you sometime when I'm by my machine. Nothing bad to say about it, really. It is $349 though (and $249 more if you don't yet have an IM bench to which it must be attached). Cheers, Brandon.
I've had mine for a year or two, no issues yet. Seems to hold up well.
You need to buy a press down straight bar attachment. The straps they give you are way too long, which makes them much better for neutral grip lat pull-downs.
Straight bar push-downs FTW.
+Collin Quarles appreciate the heads up
Hey Brandon, You're right that landmine you've got is a pain to use. You may not want to give up on it though. Talk to your buddies at Rogue and see if you can trade that landmine in for the one the one that mounts to the rack. I think you'll like that one a lot better.
+Billy Trainor I'll see what I can do!
Shorter cable, hang it from the rack with the rouge attachement, get a single chains to hang from the bottom of the weights, so its in the ground while pulling (look at what Clint Darden is doing).
+hagenissepuler Interesting suggestion!
How tall are you/how tall is this rack? I am thinking about buying this.However, the cable looks way too long to even be able to do a lat pull down + the angle looks like it would hit you in the face with the weights.
I'm about 75" the rack was cut down to around 86"
Thanks for sharing this. I saw it on their website a few weeks ago and was seriously considering it. Definitely questioned how "simple" it looked, so this confirms my impressions
+jgvasa Still might be worth it in the long run if I use it a lot.
Just finished block 1 of your training program! It's been fun and can't wait to see progress with it :)
+myfireburnswithin awesome to hear!
Interesting; how high bar hurts your elbows? As I do it, the bar sits on the traps and your hands are just support. I dont do low bar because it hurts my elbows very bad since they get large load on them, or just I am doing wrong.
+Ahmad Al-Rumaih Been trying to get as close of a grip as I can to get a tighter upper back.
What camera you using here Bcamp? Looks good
+Tony Do This one was on my NX1
I wouldn't be worried about the quality. I've had mine for a while now and beat the shit out of it and it holds up perfectly fine. One annoying this is the plates tend to sway and move around a lot causing you to have to settle the weights mid set.
+SwoleTime Fitness Yeah, just wish it felt better in the hands!
If the cable is too long, you can probably cut it and get a cable crimp to make another loop at a better length
+Mike Feirstein I have a feeling that'd screw up the braided cable.
I was interested in this or at least a diy version, but Always felt the weight would begin to sway as you preform the movement. I think some guys run another cable/rope to help in stabilizing but then it becomes tedious with the setup. I lucked out and was able to pickup a plate loaded lat pulldown for $80 on CL. Hope you get good use out of it. Quick question, why do you use the wedge more than the jack??
Nice! The wedge is just more convenient and efficient IMO
Brandon - so you made this video awhile ago. Do you still use the Spud Econo Tricep Lat Pulley? I am thinking about getting it because it does seem like an inexpensive way to add lat pulls and triceps to a Power rack...although for just triceps I have found that using real high quality resistance bands looped over the pull up bar and using them for pushdowns, etc can give a phenomenal pump. Thanks
I find I use it more now.
awesome Thanks! Now I will buy
Prob the only advantage of having to step back, is so that the plate doesn't hit your shins?
+Sabine W also the angle!
Any recommendations on a cable machine where I can do low cable rows, face pulls and stuff like that without taking out a second mortgage on my condo?
Don't have much experience with them for home use so I'd be pissing in the wind.
Had bunch of questions but when I got to the computer, I forgot all of them. Neways, have a great day there bro~
+Heeman Park Haha you too!
Hey Brandon. Awesome video.
I own a training facility in SE Tennessee and have one of these on every rack in the gym.
Like you, I was underwhelmed when I made the initial purchase and set it up for the first time.
However, after using it for a while I've come to appreciate it for what it is; A very good alternative to a very expensive cable crossover (which we have...and it literally breaks at least 3X/month).
I also have the additional set up on each rack which allows the cable to run down and attach near the bottom of the rack for creating a seated cable row.
Definitely requires some ingenuity when doing pressdowns (I do them kneeling on a rogue ballistic block) but it's worth the money IMO.
It has held up REALLY well, also. Probably used by 100+ people a week, from general pop to heavyweight PLers and haven't had any issues.
Just my two cents.
Adam
+Adam Duggan I know I'll get some use out of it, just wish it were of a higher quality, but then again for $90 I guess I shouldn't expect the world.
Adam, your post was 4 years ago. Are they still holding up? I also read Spud improved on the cables and they are now nylon coated when before they weren't and fraying would happen quickly. I am looking into this as I desperately need something to do my lat and tricep pull downs for home use due to COVID-19 shutting down the gyms I go to. Thank you.
Have you tried flossing your elbow? I had some shoulder issues and after few weeks of flossing them , shoulder mobility is getting a lot better and virtually no pain anymore. Heard that flossing your elbows might help with the tennis elbow etc. Bought the mobility floss bands from Rogue
+Andy Heiskanen Haven't!
Are you still working out at the public gym?
+MyTotalFitnessAcademy nope!
Save moolah!
Not sure if you noticed the one I use on my rack in vids.. it's attached, much better imho.. can't you get a similar one? o.O
+Adam Evans Not sure TBH!
Tie a knot on the silver cable close to where it attaches with the weight to make it shorter. I would've just stuck to bands but this doesn't seem too bad.
+RLprod cable is too tough to tie
+Brandon Campbell Maybe try asking for a second pulley and then just make the track longer. If you want a cheap but ugly solution you can always buy a 2x4 drill two holes at half the distance you want to shorten it by run the wire in a loop through the holes. This would look ghetto as hell tho but would get the job done.
Happy with mine, though the handles tend to dig in to my hands, especially when doing overhead tricep cable extensions... I'm thinking I'll get a normal tricep rope attachment. Cable rows work out well, sitting on the floor, feet planted to base of rack, using a close grip cable row attachment.
Mines attached to a regular Rogue pull up cross bar, so can easily be shifted over to the edge of the rack and out of the way... kind of...
+hamstergraphics Appreciate the feedback. was thinking down the road maybe pick up another attachment if needed.
I would think if it had a second pulley (one each for front and back support bar), it might be a bit more functional. On a budget and thought about picking this up as an alternative to a lat attachment to my rack but had the same reservations as you did.
+Chris M While I do get some use out of it, I still haven't been too impressed.
Just read other reviews and people said the cable can fray...big problem. The product needs some fixing. Oh well, glad you did a review!
any chance you can attach it to the ceiling? so you dont have to assume the position....
Could, but prob want to make sure you have a secure enough screw with high weight tolerance.
Are you still using it ? thanks
I sold it when I sold this rack, but I ended up using it quite a bit.
if you're bored enough you click on anything new
+Palet I feel ya on that!
+Brandon Campbell How does the beyonce like the home gym? I think early on you had said you had bought some stuff since she was going to use it as well
+ns She likes it, but it's not really as catered to her as it is to me, so she still has a gym membership.
dayum love the colour correction you've done in this, looks really cool
+Jake Meades appreciated!
Since this is an old video, what in your gym is gone... or what equipment would you recommend NOT getting is a better question...?
The only thing that's really gone are the plates, I upgraded to competition steel plates. I would suggest someone who is starting out to just worry about the basics at first: rack, weights, bench, barbell. Then see what you find you need most and buy as you go.
Brandon Campbell Diamond thank you for the thorough answer, I know you're a busy man so I really appreciate it.
Brandon where did you buy the deadwedge? You have a link to benefit you if we buy it? Found a place fast for 11 bucks but every penny you can earn helps.
+Thomas Leckey No benefit for me, but I got it from Lift dot Net!
i thought the same thing , which is why i havent picked it up . although, i was surprised to see how stable the plate was when you did those reps.
+gnarleypunkroker5 I've been getting good use out of it, but my opinion is still the same!
Their belts are alright... I liked my velcro Spud Inc belt. But after about a year, well guess more like year and a 1/2 or so use the velcro started slipping mid pulls and eventually mid squat. That is definitely not a good feeling. I got the one with the ratchet strap and its pretty decent, definitely isnt going to slip but theres not much rigidity in the middle of the belt where it ratchets so it'll slide around a little on your stomach depending.
+Shayn Shawver ah right on!
4:16 INDOOR VOICE, BRANDON!
+Kyle M Green LOUD NOISES.
Have you tried bands for these exercises Brandon?
You can add great quality bands to your set up for relatively low costs and they are fantastic. Whether it's for direct tricep/bicep work, adding or removing resistance on the core lifts or whatever else, for me they beat out any cable system.
+Gary McStay Hey Gary, I actually have quite a bit of bands and have used them in the past, but it's tough to add adequate resistance to get the percentages to be where I want.
It's cool that you stepped outside of yourself to pick this up; I would like to ask tho now that you have it do you think you could make something equally (or more) effective from parts from home depot? (for way less money)
+Jay C Many people seem to think so, but the time and supplies would likely be as expensive if not more, not to mention, would end up with a lower build quality IMO
cool
ah, sorry to hear the Spud inc isn't working out for you. in Chicago I see light industrial/commercial used lat pulls or high/low cable machines all the time on craigslist...
+Josh Anderson I don't think I want to take up any more floor space to be honest!
Looks like you've since solved the 'getting it on and off' issue. But what about your other concern with build quality?
it's still pretty low. You could go buy similar stuff at home depot much cheaper.
u understand u can get a 2nd pulley and attach it to the front pull up bar i.e. hence shortening the cable length so u can do tri pushdowns.Also its called a Economy tri / lat pulley system for a good reason, u get what u pay for mate ;-)
+Russ Anderson Kind of defeats the purpose of being convenient at that point!
+Brandon Campbell i guess spud inc can't cater for a whole range of different height power rack's & cages.i looked at buying this and knew by the specs on the product it would be slightly longer than expected.
+Russ Anderson ps $100 is nothing for a product like this really, try living in the uk mate .
Why don't you use bands for pushdowns and curls? Do really high reps like 2x50,3x100 for elbow health.
those aren't ideal rep ranges for strength or hypertrophy.
Brandon Campbell Diamond You mentioned it for elbow health though. For elbow health those higher rep ranges are great, but you could still just use bands for lower reps?
Is like to be the first subscriber to wish you a merry Christmas
+pablo9364 You are!
When are you going to show how the safety straps work? Suspense is killing me....
+Scott Pessetto Haven't had to use them yet ;)
Rogue Slinger just came out... not sure if only for Monster or Monster Lite. Not many reviews out there yet so hope to see you review it soon.
Monster only, need to pass the cable through the beams and the ML line is too small I believe!
Hey brandon kind of a stupid question but when did you start losing your hair? im 18 and my hairline is receding
Around 22-23
+Dante Bujhuasii Not really.
Thanks for sharing the feels on this.
Blessings
+Garrett Blevins yessir!
I've had this a while and use it pretty often (twice a week). I guess it feels cheap because well... It is cheap. The alternative for me would be a pulldown machine costing thousands which I don't have room for anyway. For me it's the best compromise. I've had 120kgs for pulldowns on it and it's stood up fine so far.
+Gainstation Gym solid point
I am in the same boat. And now with all the gym closures due to COVID-19, I am desperate to find something for my lat and tricep pull downs. But, I don't live in a big enough space to have a machine. Where I live buying anything larger than a condo is in the 1.2 million dollar range. So, we live in small spaces here. Has this held up and are you still using this after 4 years?
Brandon is your power rack cut down? If so what length?
It's cut about 4", so 86"
Brandon do see any negatives with powerlifting
+Mike Diamonds yes, you'll have more females want you to impregnate them.
Hey Brandon. Will you be testing out the Iron Rebel knee sleeves when they come out?
+Andy No current plans to, unless someone sends me some.
Great review. I think I'll head to Lowe's and grab the supplies to build one for about $30
Nice.
why not just get one of those multipurpose cable stations? Like the ones that you can do cable flys, cable x overs, and all your other cable needs?
Thats what I would do if I was building a home gym. Cable station, power rack, bench, barbell, a bunch of plates and a bunch of dumbbells or a set of those crappy dumbbells where you can adjust the weight on the same db's.
space most likely
Too expensive, takes up too much space, and inefficient for my training.
+Brandon Campbell I always feel like I get the best Tricep progress with cables. Actually, my whole Tricep routine is pretty much cable work other than a few sets of close grip or reverse grip bench.
+ADAPT ONE I think they're solid as well, but with limited space and the cost of a full on station just do 3 sets of press downs it doesn't make much sense for me.
I made one myself for my rogue rack for around $25 with just some supplies from Home Depot. Essentially the exact same thing. I didn't see the value in the spud inc one either.
+Kenny Taylor I would just think it would be even lower quality if I made it myself lol.
I used the same specs as far as the pulley and cable goes but I had to bolt my pulley instead of having that wrap around strap. Also, I had to use my own tricep attachments like the rope and v handle, etc. For the part that holds the plates, at first I just used a chain like you would for weighted dips, but now I use something very similar to what the spud inc one comes with that I got from another piece so in reality if I were to add it all up I probably have around $60-75 in it. Ive used the spud inc one and mine feels the same but with the time it took me to work out the kinks I probably could've just bought the one you have and been fine. lol
Also, wanted to ask how well your dead wedge works. Im thinking of grabbing one.
+Kenny Taylor Appreciate the insight into your custom build. I love the dead wedge, was a life saver when I went to my other gym and could just throw it in my bag with me. At $10 you can't really go wrong.
Try doing overhead tricep extensions. It feels smooth that way and since you are taller you won't need to kneel. Face pulls also feel smooth. Not a big fan of pulldowns on this thing. I'd rather do pull-ups.
+Bradley Johnson I think that's likely what I'll end up doing!
I know this is off topic, but are you and Maxx Chewning chill now or nah?
+Preston S I have no issues
Why not banded push downs or California skull crushers to hit the triceps without the elbow issues
+Good Vibes Training Systems B/c bands don't allow you to control resistance as well
+Brandon Campbell I know I know I just feel bad that you bought this-thanks for saving others time though
Always watch your videos, dont even need a title!
+PSTraining Thanks dude!
Brandon. Are you still using it and has it held up?
I sold it when I sold the rack, I bought a Rogue Slinger but TBH the spud inc pulley worked better and was cheaper!
@@BasementBrandon - Thank you Brandon. How long did you use it for before you sold it? And why do you like it better than the Slinger? I am looking at buying the Spud from Rogue as well, but I want to ensure its a good investment as its almost 200 dollars. I live in a small space with no room for a proper cable station set up so, I am looking for other options.
@Joe Solo - Thank you. And the reviews are better for Spud than Archon as is their customer service.
@Joe Solo - I am still trying to decide on what to buy. With the COVID-19 and the gyms shutting down temporarily, I am trying to figure out what other equipment I can add to my home gym set-up so, I can do my full weekly workout routine at home. I prefer to go to the gym as I don't have alot of space for a proper home gym set-up.
@Joe Solo - Great! Is it holding up and working for you? Gyms have been given the go ahead to open in my city so, I don't have to buy this anymore. I was able to use heavy GO FIT bands for my lat and tricep pull-downs.
Dude just keep an eye out for gym liquidation sales. Might be able to pick up some goodies.
+Syrus Kite problem is around here they're all bought up by resellers.
+Brandon Campbell oh well then Ill put my energy into the universe and hope you get a deal mate.. Who are we fooling, 5 years down the track Im sure you will have a decent gym set up in the basement lol lat pull down machine, cable row, pec deck and cable flys lol labour of love itll be worth it... As long as the Mrs is happy with it haha
Hey, dude. Good video. I agree with you on the lack of impression this product made on me but like you, I also needed some kind of lat/tri pulley system and was attracted by the DIY simplicity of this. I bought two Rogue loading pins and researched a bit more into this type of setup's hardware. I just ordered all the necessary parts to build my own from e - rigging dot com (minus the spaces) and made sure each item was of high durable quality. I actually bought two pulleys and enough cable, carabiners and wire clips to get two of these up side by side and start doing cable crossovers at home. I might have paid a bit more than what two of these Spuds would have cost me but I'm confident in the durability and quality of all the parts purchased.
Parts list:
2 x 1/4" Cable x 2-1/2" Diameter Swivel Eye Block
10 x 7/16" Stainless Steel Spring Snap Link (as you mentioned, for a convenient quick release of pulley and to attach loading pins and handles to cable)
1/4" X 200', 7x19, Vinyl Coated Galvanized Cable Reel (probably easier and cheaper to go to local hardware store and buy your particular lengths of cable there but i decided to get a reel)
8 x 1/4" Drop Forged Wire Rope Clip
+bludsassij Nice! If I didn't cut my rack to fit my ceiling I'd probably do the same
Still have the jack? Willing to sell?
Sure, $60 + shipping
Seems like a simple way to get in a cable system, but you could have definitely saved some mula by just taking a trip to Lowe's.
+Jake Pierce Would've end up costing around the same when all is said and done!
@@BasementBrandon Non elastic paracord, pully, hook, carabiners. Less than 15 bucks.
There are videos on here and the pulleys from Home Depot squeal
obviously you are sponsored by Rogue because it'd be fair dinkum unbelievable that you'd spend a fortune on Rogue toys but criticise a simple product from Spud that does exactly what it promises to do because it's not pretty enough and is made from "heavy duty canvas straps and some metal wire cable". The Spud product is 25% of the cost of the average cable pulldown attachment. A basic understanding of the physics around the strength and weight-bearing abilities of cables and pulleys might help you appreciate Spud-style products, which are an obvious threat to the over-built and over-priced (but nicely powder-coated and neatly labelled) Rogue stuff
No.
i hope you don't mind me asking you, but are you a trust fund kid? or just an archetypal perfect American consumer?
Malcolm Turnbear neither
No its obvious youre broke or a troll. The spud is a piece of crap
@@malcolmturnbear8584 jokes on you, rogue sells this spud inc. product
why don't you just do a banded extension to work triceps?
+xeyroc13 b/c you can't overload them.
I guess, you could just say that band work is for a set of 100 or do max reps in a certain time frame. I have been personally doing that for the past month or two and have seen my main lifts going up at least.
You could probably attach that to the ceiling somehow. Would be a little higher too.
+Samuli Matikainen Hmm interesting thought
+Brandon Campbell I'd imagine something like a heavy bag mount could work
Can you do high to low cable crossovers with it?
Not in this type of set up.
It actually works really well on your knees bro dont limit yourself for comfortability
Right on
Looks to be useful for a home gym, but a bit cheap. Can't you just cut a piece of the cable?
+0farshad would fray the braid, then would have to figure out a way to make a loop out of it.
+Brandon Campbell right, didn't think about that. Maybe Home Depot might make a clean cut for you?
why not just loop a band over the pull up bar?
+Sandy Mcbain Limited resistance
dumbbells?
+Alex Sutton inefficient IMO
Awesome review man...Really enjoy your channel...
Thanks my dude
gym is growing, now it's your turn :)
+meeloshj nah, why start now?!
it's never too late
Why didnt you hide some welder and built your own rack,bench, and other things you want its 10 times cheaper and higher quality. only things I would bug is weight and bars
+LTgym Would be just as pricey and lower quality.
I bought this attachment for my rack and 100% agree that it's cheap and a waste of $80.
+josh1710 damn it!
Maybe just the elastic band push downs?
+oddrongo not enough resistance
how long cables did last?
Still lasting
@@BasementBrandon thank you for fast reply
Dope vid my dude!!
+Fat Dan 'Bob Evans' Thanks Dan!
its crap, lol. get a real machine. a 4 stack cable crossover, great for tricep pushdowns. only $9000.00
+Rich Photography & Art lol
I do my lat pulldowns sitting on the ground and tricep work on my knees, its legit
I came around to like this more with time, but there are some better options IMO
What is the better options?
Have you seen pics of rhe slinger from rogue? Looks promising and way better than this thing...
Does look pretty bad ass.
wondering when you will doing collab with scooby?
thanks.
I am scooby
I like the product. Agree that the build quality could be better
+arnab g Right on
I agree it’s not great, but I had to tell myself/ remind myself that it is adequate for its intended use.
True!
Awesome review. Glad I didn't buy one now lol. Just bought a thick resistance band instead.
+silversurfer I think I'll still end up using it, just wish it was more legit!
You might want to just send it back Brandon for the amount of money it cost you could either make ur own or find another one your gym is so nice to have something u half way like
+Kawika Householder Making one would end up being around the same price and would likely feel even cheaper!
it looks like you could've bought a pulley like this and a bit of rope in a hardware store.. pay $25 and the effect would've been identical.. the position you had in those push downs/backs didn't seem very comfortable..
ps
how about some Q&A? that's always fun ;)
+cieszynski1986 Maybe soon!
Nice work
+Ultimate Fitness Motivation Thanks boss