In this clip from Episode 16 of the CGR podcast, the guys break down why Don Henley is so annoying. #eagles #donhenley #hotelcalifornia #classicrock #classicrockpodcast
Don Felder is still a member of the band, and gets paid like he was a member but does not tour or record with them, plus he won a huge settlement. Henley is a good song writer and singer, but Henley is a control freak and a Narcissist, and even complained about the shoes a band member was wearing during a performance, what they could say during interviews, and what they could play during interviews and talk shows. He was livid when Felder wrote the book Heaven and Hell, because Narcissists hate more than anything when something is perceived to make them look bad.
I mean he’s the leader of a band. That band has a reputation and a facade to uphold. Entertainers are like “magic”. What good would a magician be if he allowed wires to be shown during his tricks ? :P
Other Reasons to hate Henley and Frey too. After the Eagles reformed and they had in their contracts an even 5 ways split among the band that Henley and Frey came to the conclusion that they should be paid more. so they had it the contract changed so Felder Walsh and Schmidt would be paid less. now this is also when as they came back they jacked up their concert ticket prices way up. so there was millions more for Henley and Frey to gain but there was so much money there was NO REASON to do this. now remember 2 members of the Eagles had quit by this time. Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon who had enough of their crap. well this didnt sit well with Don Felder but Walsh went along and so did Timothy B Schmidt who was just glad to be in the band. Felder gets kicked out of the band for this and he was the reason the Eagles had gotten their rock edge with his guitar playing especially with Already Gone a huge rock song for them and he wrote the music to Hotel California. this is all uncovered in the Showtime Doc history of the Eagles and in Felders Book Heaven and Hell My Life in the Eagles. going back to the documentary Glen Frey could not have looked any worse here as a real asshole as he rips Felder for not taking this pay cut and a take it or leave it attitude. Felder just keeps saying a deal is a deal and Walsh's silence is heartbreaking as he should be backing up Felder here.
I don’t think that is totally true, Joe has talked about this and said it went to an earlier contract and that he and Timothy were not full members of the Organization
I don't know if the Eagles needed Joe Walsh but it's obvious Joe Walsh didn't need the Eagles. I would assume he has plenty of self esteem@@pepegrillo38
But you never did anything enormous in your life unfortunately we don't even know what you look like. It takes a lot more bravery to be a successful person. I'm pretty sure you'll never know what that is but I'm also pretty sure you're young and dumb and either don't care what other people think. And made them happy back in the day. So confused about your own proclivities about how people should live no one really cares a fuk about you anymore you know why? Because you have no personality and no ability to go back into time and listen to something that is different from now!!! Think about how your older generation didn't know these things and love the music made love to the music forget about all that, just concentrate on right now and how unhappy you are with your own life
Not the first people to say this about the awesome Don Henley. It is just so true that I might never stop laughing. Love his music. Love the subtlety. That voice should have sang every Eagles track. But he really is, and was clueless when it comes to what other people think and feel.
I don't understand why people like his voice. It's all head voice with him. He rarely sings from the diaphragm. He has to practically deepthroat the mic to be heard.
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL it doesn’t affect my day. But, since commenting here, I did Google a bit and never realized he was considered to be such a prick in the industry. So given your channel, fair game - not that it’s any of my business
That's the point I was trying to make... he's an awesome vocalist... one of my all time favorites but he's so condescending and arrogant it drives me crazy! LOL - thanks for watching!
Perhaps, no in fact, there are two blemishes on Eagles, "The" is not to be used as a prefix, that have and will continue to limit their legacy- the egos of Glenn Frey and Don Henley. Apparently Henley, especially, has this paranoia that someone other than himself and Glenn's estate might earn a dime on their efforts to the extent that he has completely outlawed usage of anything to do with their material. In fact he has a whole army of attorneys who troll the airwaves in a way reminiscent of Gestapo radio-location specialists to insure that no one is secretly using their songs without prior consent. Never in the history of recorded music has a performer been so diligent at limiting his and their exposure to the world. It's ego over common sense; his efforts insure that the least promotion is to be accordingly given to their songbook.
Don and Glen couldn’t have done it on their own! It was a collaboration, it’s a pity they didn’t value the other band members. Timothy had a beautiful voice, better than Glen’s, Don Felder was an amazing talent to! Those two just thought they were they were better than everyone else.
@@BarbaraBrown-ei7ct yes, staying grounded is the way to be. I was born in 1967 and if that has something to do with my statement please enlighten us all.
Henley is an activist, he read the constitution and took it to heart. Freedom of speech and he speaks his mind about what he feels is important. You can judge his personal relations and business tactics as you wish but the only way to judge his music is nearly perfect.
Cause music is a pretty powerful force for change and in 1976 we were all “yay, America, we made it!” Without thinking much about our complicated and troublesome history. Gotta keep growing and changing even after 200 years. Think how far we’ve come since 1976… did Hotel California have much to do with that? Mmmmm, probably not a bit, but it was cool he was thinking about it.
You obviously didn’t listen to the whole podcast.... he’s one of the greatest vocalists ever and extremely talented....also one of the most arrogant and annoying musicians ever.
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL Why? He was right. 1976 was OK but much more needed to be done. We've come a long way since then. More always needs to be done. Hotel California may not be as important as he thinks it was at the time (which I'm not sure if there is even any info to say otherwise), but I'm from overseas, in Australia and everyone knows his music and the Eagles music. It's a staple at every party or BBQ in the country & it has been since then, even though I was only 6 when it was released. I bet it is pretty much every where else in the world too. Now the copyright issue that some TH-camrs have a problem with may be a different story but I don't know the full details of yet.
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL Oh wow. Really hit home there. I'll have to get back at you by continuing to make no content here. Point is, this is a terrible take and you should leave comments on the Eagles and Don Henley to people who know what they're talking about.
Rock, soul and folk artists are the successors to what poets like Wordsworth, Tennyson and Whitman were in the 19th century. With Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, The Beatles, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Marvin Gaye, the writer of music lyrics had effectively claimed and made good on the right to make global political statements. Henley took this up. Questioning his right to do so in the context of rock is a waste of time. The place of the critic is to interpret and assess the value of those statements.
Stop it , there was not one thing wrong with that statement except the way you read it , I understand exactly what Henley was talking about in that statement, you need to read the whole interview to get the right context, I love Don Henley and I loved Glenn Frey , most people hate them that don’t know how it really was , I know I’m not sure myself , but I know to this day Felder never says bad things about them , and he always talks about the good music they made together over the years , and I’m thinking he’d love to be back in the EAGLES I know I’d love it . Mojo Nixon (rest his soul) wrote that song Don Henley Must Die , but Don got up on stage with him one time and did the song with him and was a good sport about it and I’m pretty sure Mojo interviewed him too , imo most of the hatred comes from them being so good and so successful, but hey they saw so many bands get screwed by the music industry, that they hired Irving Azoff and like Henley said “ He may be Satan but he’s our Satan “ and together they were able to keep the suits at bay and pretty much run it their own careers and bravo for that .
He's absolutely right, Don Henley. If we are going to survive another 200 years there needs to be change. I don't think it pompous to make a statement with your music. It's just a unique and fortunate platform to have and it shouldn't wasted writing songs about gang banging. Jackson Browne is another true patriot and poet.
Well...since humans are not responsible for creating the earth or themselves, how are they going to end war, poverty, crime, natural disasters, pestilence, and bring back everyone's dead loved ones. A Theocratic government is the only thing that will solve all of this globally and it won't be ran by imperfect mortal humans, but a powerful spirit creature.🌏🪷🍃
Just think about anyone 12 years and younger today. 10 years from now will they buy and consume eagles music? Don and the Eagles fill fade into obscurity.
Honestly he's not wrong. America is failing. We're talking about don henley, who likely got much of his musical influence from the 60's hippy counterculture era
He’s a lyrical genius probably the best you f/rs will ever see. He is 100% correct The Last Resort and Hotel California represent that narrative he’s talking about.. Sure it sounds pomp and arrogant but those records reached what,40m+ & counting.His solo work is also genius & has meaning which has made an impact, he’s someone of substance..wtf are you…?
😂😂No I didn’t listen to your podcast I just wrote several lines with other examples of exactly why he said what he said in your podcast 🙄🥱I don’t play anything, but I heard you play drums,- on your drum maker.Clearly we all march to the tune of a different beat.
The problem with your analysis is that Henley's prescriptions for this country are exactly what is bringing this country down. Yes, he may have been correct that the country or the world was going down the wrong road -- the problem was that Henley was not looking at the right road. He got it totally backwards. HE is the corporate shill. HE is the denier of free speech. HE is the promoter of anti-market policies that destroy the wealth of the middle class. We are losing all the things he feared we would, but not for the reasons he states. In the end, like those 60s hippies, he joined forces with the tyranny of the surveillance state and the warmongers all the while acting like he was disgusted by such things. What a freaking fraud!
Funny Boomers are the parents of most Millennials. But yet Boomers hate on Millennials. is this evidence, Boomers Hate there children? Boomers except no accountability-Look they blame us....is this part of the reasoning why the world is in the state its in. May I point out BABY boomers. Grow up old man. We will clean up the mess your Generation left behind, wile you throw stones at us. Don't worry We will get it you can kick back. Or at lest we will encourage our kids and the Generations that follow us. @@maxb9315
David Geffen described Don Henley as a malcontent. The perfect way to sum him up.
Nobody mentions that thing with Don Henley having cocaine and underage hookers at his house?
We did cover that on a few recent #CGRupdates.
Oh they do 😅 it's all over TH-cam!
Don Henley has been no said to have been lipsynching to his concerts while charging hundreds of dollars per ticket. So much for a (cl)ass act. 😡
Don Felder is still a member of the band, and gets paid like he was a member but does not tour or record with them, plus he won a huge settlement. Henley is a good song writer and singer, but Henley is a control freak and a Narcissist, and even complained about the shoes a band member was wearing during a performance, what they could say during interviews, and what they could play during interviews and talk shows. He was livid when Felder wrote the book Heaven and Hell, because Narcissists hate more than anything when something is perceived to make them look bad.
He gave Henley what is referred to as a Narcissistic Injury.
So ironic that they didn't prioritize brotherhood while singing such beautiful harmonies.
I so love Felder.
Felder is not a member of the Eagles. Get your facts straight Sir.
@@1951timbo not technically, but he still gets royalties but is just not allowed to talk about any of it publicly.
I mean he’s the leader of a band. That band has a reputation and a facade to uphold. Entertainers are like “magic”. What good would a magician be if he allowed wires to be shown during his tricks ? :P
Other Reasons to hate Henley and Frey too. After the Eagles reformed and they had in their contracts an even 5 ways split among the band that Henley and Frey came to the conclusion that they should be paid more. so they had it the contract changed so Felder Walsh and Schmidt would be paid less. now this is also when as they came back they jacked up their concert ticket prices way up. so there was millions more for Henley and Frey to gain but there was so much money there was NO REASON to do this. now remember 2 members of the Eagles had quit by this time. Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon who had enough of their crap. well this didnt sit well with Don Felder but Walsh went along and so did Timothy B Schmidt who was just glad to be in the band. Felder gets kicked out of the band for this and he was the reason the Eagles had gotten their rock edge with his guitar playing especially with Already Gone a huge rock song for them and he wrote the music to Hotel California. this is all uncovered in the Showtime Doc history of the Eagles and in Felders Book Heaven and Hell My Life in the Eagles. going back to the documentary Glen Frey could not have looked any worse here as a real asshole as he rips Felder for not taking this pay cut and a take it or leave it attitude. Felder just keeps saying a deal is a deal and Walsh's silence is heartbreaking as he should be backing up Felder here.
I don’t think that is totally true, Joe has talked about this and said it went to an earlier contract and that he and Timothy were not full members of the Organization
Frey and Henley were just lucky they met two guys like Walsh and Schmidt, who have a lot of talent and little self-esteem
I don't know if the Eagles needed Joe Walsh but it's obvious Joe Walsh didn't need the Eagles. I would assume he has plenty of self esteem@@pepegrillo38
Don Henley even looks pompous and unkind.
But you never did anything enormous in your life unfortunately we don't even know what you look like. It takes a lot more bravery to be a successful person. I'm pretty sure you'll never know what that is but I'm also pretty sure you're young and dumb and either don't care what other people think. And made them happy back in the day. So confused about your own proclivities about how people should live no one really cares a fuk about you anymore you know why? Because you have no personality and no ability to go back into time and listen to something that is different from now!!! Think about how your older generation didn't know these things and love the music made love to the music forget about all that, just concentrate on right now and how unhappy you are with your own life
Not the first people to say this about the awesome Don Henley. It is just so true that I might never stop laughing. Love his music. Love the subtlety. That voice should have sang every Eagles track. But he really is, and was clueless when it comes to what other people think and feel.
He is one of my all time favorite singers! But he's also an insufferable jerk nozzle!
I don't understand why people like his voice. It's all head voice with him. He rarely sings from the diaphragm. He has to practically deepthroat the mic to be heard.
Man, what a weird thing to get triggered by. Pretty benign, really.
Triggered? lol.... just annoyed. Do you like holier than though musicians?
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL it doesn’t affect my day. But, since commenting here, I did Google a bit and never realized he was considered to be such a prick in the industry. So given your channel, fair game - not that it’s any of my business
@@Stan_sprinkle he’s a brilliant musician.... but like many very talented artists he’s got a very healthy ego lol! Thanks for watching!
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL holier-than-thou
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL Do you like being an idiot?
LOL 😂 couldn’t agree more. I know how good he is, but whenever he comes on the radio I have to change the channel.
That's the point I was trying to make... he's an awesome vocalist... one of my all time favorites but he's so condescending and arrogant it drives me crazy! LOL - thanks for watching!
Perhaps, no in fact, there are two blemishes on Eagles, "The" is not to be used as a prefix, that have and will continue to limit their legacy- the egos of Glenn Frey and Don Henley. Apparently Henley, especially, has this paranoia that someone other than himself and Glenn's estate might earn a dime on their efforts to the extent that he has completely outlawed usage of anything to do with their material. In fact he has a whole army of attorneys who troll the airwaves in a way reminiscent of Gestapo radio-location specialists to insure that no one is secretly using their songs without prior consent. Never in the history of recorded music has a performer been so diligent at limiting his and their exposure to the world. It's ego over common sense; his efforts insure that the least promotion is to be accordingly given to their songbook.
Don and Glen couldn’t have done it on their own! It was a collaboration, it’s a pity they didn’t value the other band members. Timothy had a beautiful voice, better than Glen’s, Don Felder was an amazing talent to! Those two just thought they were they were better than everyone else.
A lot of rock stars think they are gods because they get treated as such
Well yeah. Did you expect something different what decade were you even born in
@@BarbaraBrown-ei7ct yes, staying grounded is the way to be. I was born in 1967 and if that has something to do with my statement please enlighten us all.
@@bobabooey7088 well you stayed at the obvious would your first comment. Maybe I misunderstood your intention
@@BarbaraBrown-ei7ct I can’t understand what you just said
Future has proved the Mr Henley had it ALL figured out back then. Why didn't we elect him Premier of Earth For Life?
Then he would be the tired old man that would be king…
Egos in that band are off the chart
"Don Henley Must Die" - Mojo Nixon 1990
Henley is an activist, he read the constitution and took it to heart. Freedom of speech and he speaks his mind about what he feels is important. You can judge his personal relations and business tactics as you wish but the only way to judge his music is nearly perfect.
Didnt he strangle some 15 yr old then write a song ab it
I think it’s actually a pretty cool idea.
Cause music is a pretty powerful force for change and in 1976 we were all “yay, America, we made it!” Without thinking much about our complicated and troublesome history. Gotta keep growing and changing even after 200 years. Think how far we’ve come since 1976… did Hotel California have much to do with that? Mmmmm, probably not a bit, but it was cool he was thinking about it.
That being said, I agree he’s a dick.
Henley is a bitter soul. Nothing he does or any amount of money he makes can change that.
I think the Eagles wouldn’t have lasted that long if it wasn’t for him and Fry because they ran it like a business
Totally disagree with you- Don is one of our best songwriters and musicians
You obviously didn’t listen to the whole podcast.... he’s one of the greatest vocalists ever and extremely talented....also one of the most arrogant and annoying musicians ever.
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL Why? He was right. 1976 was OK but much more needed to be done. We've come a long way since then. More always needs to be done. Hotel California may not be as important as he thinks it was at the time (which I'm not sure if there is even any info to say otherwise), but I'm from overseas, in Australia and everyone knows his music and the Eagles music. It's a staple at every party or BBQ in the country & it has been since then, even though I was only 6 when it was released. I bet it is pretty much every where else in the world too. Now the copyright issue that some TH-camrs have a problem with may be a different story but I don't know the full details of yet.
Songwriter yes but an extremely mediocre drummer.
So somehow you think Don Henley is the FIRST songwriter to apply social commentary to his lyrics????
No. You clearly didn’t watch the whole episode.
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL Thank God.
@@jeffreylutz9061 Yes, you should tell all your subscribers to stear clear..... oh, wait, nevermind.
@@ClassicGuitarRockJFL Oh wow. Really hit home there. I'll have to get back at you by continuing to make no content here. Point is, this is a terrible take and you should leave comments on the Eagles and Don Henley to people who know what they're talking about.
@@jeffreylutz9061 hopefully you’ll keep watching more of my terrible takes.
I believe Don Henley is spot on!!!
Con Henley ripping off trusting fans by lip syncing and charging them big bucks for his fake performances. He’s a loser.
@@Bobswartz that was very disappointing
Rock, soul and folk artists are the successors to what poets like Wordsworth, Tennyson and Whitman were in the 19th century. With Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, The Beatles, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Marvin Gaye, the writer of music lyrics had effectively claimed and made good on the right to make global political statements. Henley took this up. Questioning his right to do so in the context of rock is a waste of time. The place of the critic is to interpret and assess the value of those statements.
Oh no, i bet Don Henley is absolutely traumatised about what you think of him dude !!! 😂🤔🤔🤔
Stop it , there was not one thing wrong with that statement except the way you read it , I understand exactly what Henley was talking about in that statement, you need to read the whole interview to get the right context, I love Don Henley and I loved Glenn Frey , most people hate them that don’t know how it really was , I know I’m not sure myself , but I know to this day Felder never says bad things about them , and he always talks about the good music they made together over the years , and I’m thinking he’d love to be back in the EAGLES I know I’d love it . Mojo Nixon (rest his soul) wrote that song Don Henley Must Die , but Don got up on stage with him one time and did the song with him and was a good sport about it and I’m pretty sure Mojo interviewed him too , imo most of the hatred comes from them being so good and so successful, but hey they saw so many bands get screwed by the music industry, that they hired Irving Azoff and like Henley said “ He may be Satan but he’s our Satan “ and together they were able to keep the suits at bay and pretty much run it their own careers and bravo for that .
Don Henley shits on this guy. Dont disrespect a legend
You play with a capo don’t you...
He's absolutely right, Don Henley. If we are going to survive another 200 years there needs to be change. I don't think it pompous to make a statement with your music. It's just a unique and fortunate platform to have and it shouldn't wasted writing songs about gang banging. Jackson Browne is another true patriot and poet.
Well...since humans are not responsible for creating the earth or themselves, how are they going to end war, poverty, crime, natural disasters, pestilence, and bring back everyone's dead loved ones. A Theocratic government is the only thing that will solve all of this globally and it won't be ran by imperfect mortal humans, but a powerful spirit creature.🌏🪷🍃
His quote is correct.
Nothing arrogant or pompus about it.
What the hell is wrong with the quote?
I wrote a song. Return to Hotel California. Honestly its a better song that somehow makes the original better. Up on my channel now.
Just think about anyone 12 years and younger today. 10 years from now will they buy and consume eagles music? Don and the Eagles fill fade into obscurity.
Personally. I could care less concerning your opinion. Don has sainthood status and again, who are you? Don't answer. I don't care to know.
You play guitar with a capo don’t you?
saints don't drug, screw and murder 15 year olds
Or you personally couldn’t care less. 🙄
Honestly he's not wrong. America is failing. We're talking about don henley, who likely got much of his musical influence from the 60's hippy counterculture era
Love it
He’s a lyrical genius probably the best you f/rs will ever see. He is 100% correct The Last Resort and Hotel California represent that narrative he’s talking about.. Sure it sounds pomp and arrogant but those records reached what,40m+ & counting.His solo work is also genius & has meaning which has made an impact, he’s someone of substance..wtf are you…?
You didn’t listen to the podcast did you? You play guitar with a capo don’t you? 🙄
😂😂No I didn’t listen to your podcast I just wrote several lines with other examples of exactly why he said what he said in your podcast 🙄🥱I don’t play anything, but I heard you play drums,- on your drum maker.Clearly we all march to the tune of a different beat.
The problem with your analysis is that Henley's prescriptions for this country are exactly what is bringing this country down. Yes, he may have been correct that the country or the world was going down the wrong road -- the problem was that Henley was not looking at the right road. He got it totally backwards. HE is the corporate shill. HE is the denier of free speech. HE is the promoter of anti-market policies that destroy the wealth of the middle class. We are losing all the things he feared we would, but not for the reasons he states. In the end, like those 60s hippies, he joined forces with the tyranny of the surveillance state and the warmongers all the while acting like he was disgusted by such things. What a freaking fraud!
Cry Baby boomers Everywhere.
They've got some catching up to do if they want to match millennials' whine-and-sob output.
Accountability!
Question? what generation raised the Millennials?
Answer: Boomers
Generation
@@maxb9315
Funny Boomers are the parents of most Millennials. But yet Boomers hate on Millennials. is this evidence, Boomers Hate there children?
Boomers except no accountability-Look they blame us....is this part of the reasoning why the world is in the state its in.
May I point out BABY boomers. Grow up old man. We will clean up the mess your Generation left behind, wile you throw stones at us.
Don't worry We will get it you can kick back.
Or at lest we will encourage our kids and the Generations that follow us. @@maxb9315
I'm not sure how I got to this channel and I have no idea who you are.
But what?
Oh there’s more where that came from! Thanks for watching!
Everyone hates a winner. Bunch of nobodies absolutely seething. lol
Weak sauce guys. Love Henley.
So do I.
James Hetfield is better than Don Henley. Enough said.
LOL
@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax No, it's "Sad But True".
James Hetfield is fit to wash Henley's balls.
WHO?
Henley sings...........And Henley sucks!