man swordsoul get fucked so hard by TYPHON , he can beat over the lvl 8 swordsoul synchro and bounce the lvl 10 , i mean blackout exists but you kinda need a good hand for that
lol, I was playing Swordsoul for a while too. Mannadium is a better version of swordsoul. It usually ends on a better board and doesn’t lose to imperm or veiler.
problem with speedroid kashtira is the fact that shang-baronne-crystal wing are the best and really only extra deck monsters you want to end on. The deck isn’t consistent at getting at least 2 of those out either. The space for non engine is amazing, but it feels like we’re 1 good wind synchro 8 or 10 away from it being a potentially solid deck.
SpeedKash doesn’t even end on Crystal Wing. You want to make Clear Wing Fast or Dawn Dragster instead. It doesn’t need a strong board anyway, the massive amount of non-engine it can play gets you into long games where Baronne and Fenrir really show their long-term value. But another good option would be reeeeally nice. I’m begging for a quick effect pop…
@@cashcloakburmy depending on the hand, when you have an extra extender, you can make it with piper’s level reduction effect. Some hands wind lock you and doesn’t allow you to play dragster at times either. Not all builds will play it, but they can make it and its something some builds do play.
Pig keep using your untouched deck you are still the best, nice player not recommended from komoney , nice game nice player yes all good men you are the best yes continue like that
Generaider Runick can either 3 hand rip on your starting turn and 1 hand rip on opponents next MP1, or can just 2 hand rip (yoru MP1) 2 board break on opponents turn and I think thats wild. All done because of ib
With Diviner as a starter only, not consistent enough And if you get handtrap on her, you can just play classic Generaider/Runick, which is barely okay in general
Pig Joshua keep using your untouched deck you are still the best, nice player not recommended from komoney , nice game nice player yes all good men you are the best yes continue like that
I totally agree with what you said about Rescue-ace, but let me add something: The deck is heavily reliant on diabell package, so 1 handtrap(ash/imperm diabell monster/spell) can end its turn since its hard to see airlifter in the opening hand post banlist.
I kinda disagree with you. I have a mate that plays RACE without the Diabellstar Package and he almost always sets up the 4 Spells/Traps with Turbulence. That deck is scary as fuck. I tried Imperm/Veiler on Turbulence and Ash on Emergency. Also going 2nd with Boardbreakers and even then you don't beat it 2 out of 3 times thanks to him playing Crossout for Evenly and Lightning Storm. You still need to respect it without the Diabell package otherwise you get your ass kicked 😬
@seppmeierthegreat332 How is it possible to special summon turbulence when airlifter is at 1(almost impossible to have 2 rescue-ace cards in gy), especially without diabell ?
Ishizu Tear may have lost but people that love Tear as an archetype have won: Ishizu cards doomed tear cards to be hit over and over, now we might finally have some respite
Runic Generaider with a Justiciar package is genuinely bonkers, a very fun runic variant with some problems but also insane potential. I'd like to know what you think?
I just don't see how people think this runick generaider combo is good. If you've ever played runick you know how important having the fountain on the field is. The minute you take out the fountain to put in a boss stage you automatically turn off your activations from the hand and fountain draws, and grind game + recycling and drawing has always been the strongest part of runick. Any other field spell you can play with runick would need to be genuinely insane in order to justify removing fountain from field, and I just don't see how generaider is it
In my opinion Exosister will be the underdog of this format, bc the ability to work without the gy and having like 4 banish w full combo + other interruptions, it's not so bad... of course if you are unlucky af and get ashed/drolled in the right spot it's quite difficult to grind, but beside that, in my opinion, it's quite good, a solid choice I guess...
droll in the right spot? you just shotgun it.. Also I think you should always ash marta, if you ash martha it is hard to make magnifica.. (you'll need sakitama, stella, elis and martha), and without magnifica, exosister is just trash
@@Saens406of course it was a generic says.... I play exo and I perfectly know how works well droll against this deck 😂 Also, I think that in certain decklists, the ash on martha it isn't always a kill, because with the extenders that exists and that you can play on it, you can manage to do something... best ash will remain the one on Kaspitell, after you summoned it with Martha effect + elis 🫥
@@thewhitewolf8658 no bro you are so wrong.. Tell me what extenders exist to full combo after beeing ash on martha?? ash on kaspitell is bad, you just need aratama or sakitama+any exo to full combo. While when ashing martha you need 4 specific cards to full combo..
@@Saens406I haven't understood that you were talking about making magnifica, I was talking simply about the exosister's board after an Ash on martha... 😅 Beside that yes, full combo without any other name on the board before it's impossible, bc with spirits or cyber dark combo, you have to do 1 normal summon, so you can't... but hey, it's human to be wrong sometimes; ps: I still think that if you have done martha's opening and you get ash'ed on the first xyz, it's game for the oppo, but that's an opinion, I usually lose games this way so
Ah i see. Not only did joshua chose every hit in the banlist, but he made sure every single card could be use to grind content!! Truly one of the best moments before ending this Year in the JoshuaVerse
10:15 so right now the best idea for mikanko is using the psi reflector package for power tool braver dragon, and the wanted engine can still be very useful because you can grab jet or renaud to grab back arabesque, its not nearly as good as it was, but personally I do think it can still be playable, maybe idk Ill have to test it more
I know Josh is excited about the limits to the Sunavalon portion of plant deck, but Aroma and Rikka go really well together too and Aroma has some crazy support coming soon. I wouldn't call plant dead yet.
I think Professor Schmidt cares more about one-card combos than archetypes on their own. if the new version of plants doesn't have a a degen one card combo, he'd be cool with it I think
@@Mallalotro unfortunately even if Joshua is one of the biggest players of all time, he is not that objective when he's valutating the real power of a certain deck. For him a one card combo deck is cancer meanwhile a deck which can manage resources better than other is fine even if it can be resilient to most hand traps (like unchained or r-ace) being even more unfair than any one card combo deck which can be stopped with 1 hand trap. The saddest part is that komoney seems to listen to him and make his wishlist (not banned list) come true. That's very terrifying..
I think Salad will be really good when we get the link3 princess. I never liked the floodgate version I always felt like those slots would be better used for handtraps and/or crossout and nib
Im gonna be working on centurion. They have the space to play non engine vs the upcoming top decks and stoping calamity means playing cards that dont answer cards that answer your deck
Mikanko is definitely in a better spot than infernoble right now, they still have ample lines to play along, and have snatch steal now to reuse. Not to mention many of the same supports that infernoble has also work with mikanko ( power tool synchros especially)
@@resetzz984 while they do have reflection rondo, it is nowhere near as good overall. that's the short of it, the _long_ of it is: rondo prevents you from using the activated effects of the monster you take. on top of this, you have to control a mikanko to even perform the steal, which means that many decks can just hit your mikanko when it touches the board, and take their monster right back. the better aspect of rondo would be that it's untargetable under hu-li, but the problem is that (as has happened to me more times than i can recall) even as a one-of, opening rondo is an absolute pain with or without a mikanko in hand, because you cannot even use the card without investing more into the board. snatch steal forces an immediate answer with or without a mikanko, can be used in almost every single way that rondo can, and doesn't prevent you from using the effects of the card you steal. it is more vulnerable to removal, but when you can throw ohime down and use the effect to make it a quick play, non targeting theft, does that really matter?
Even though I do think Unchained maybe a solid deck and will get somewhat a new card from PHNI, I'm not too keen on it doing that great. Where yes, Berserk Archfiend can help trigger your Unchained monsters, the BIGGEST factor when it came to Sharvara was the quick effect pop that even included set cards to dodge stuff. I don't know, I feel Unchained may fall off to where it might be rather a Lab variant than well an Unchained deck.
I think Branded is very big sleeper pick right now, as the puppet lock is toxic but it's turn-ending making it one of the best going first decks, and superpoly and bystials main deck make very good going second against a lot of the meta like Lab, Bystial Runick and Fire King.
@TheKinfing You send the lv 8 gimmick puppet nightmare to grave with branded fusion then special it to your opponent's field with sanctifire Albion. The moment nightmare his the field, it locks your opponent out of special summon for the entire turn Unlike Iblee or acid golem, the effect is lingering so removing nightmare does nothing
@@TheKinfingTo add on to what @phucdisshiet6838 said, you can also send the puppet using Granguignol, allowing you to use your branded fusion to send other things like send lubellion make it over albion for the extra body and continuous spell.
Why couldnt they put Air Lifter to 2 at least? Race turn 2 was so nice because even if your backrow got Lightning Stormed, you could still use your monsters effect to survive that turn and gain recources while doing so. It was such a cool deck man but now its FTK or lose. Very upsetting IdkIdkIdk
I'd love to hear your thoughts on generaider runick with Ib being used to search monstrosity and runick slepneir being a free level 9. Can hand rip up to 4
Pig Joshua keep using your untouched deck you are still the best, nice player not recommended from komoney , nice game nice player yes all good men you are the best yes continue like that
@@delgande Generally, 3x Martha 3x Elis 2 or 1x Stella 1x Sophia 0x Irene (worst brick, run it if you want extra vadis targets but its really generally not worth it) 2 or 1x Returnia 2 or 1x Vadis (Neither Vadis or Returnia are required to be at 2 but you definitely need 1 of each and I prefer 2 since they generally feel really strong) 3x Pax 3x Aratama 2 or 3x Sakitama Besides that, just whatever non engine you want. Definitely 3 shifter though. Extra is pretty self explanatory, highly recommend Zeus, Ty-phon, and Bagooska and then just the entire exosister gang
@@delgande The deck is very fragile and crumbles fairly easily so it often feels weak for that reason, however if it pops off it often wins *very* fast
It sounds like almost every good deck besides Rescue Ace does pretty well against Labrynth. I wouldn't be surprised if it took its usual place as the worst tier 1 or best tier 2 deck.
Yeah people are overestimating lab simply due to it being unchanged, the player base of notable lab pilots will likely not change exponentially as it is not a deck that you can just pick up and succeed with immediatky
Solid vid Josh love your content always very calming and informative. Now as for a deck idea what do you think of Runick Chimera or Runick Fur Hire? Even though as a community Lab for sure wins the most with this ban list I actually don't think it will become as popular as Rescue Ace or Unchained when they started making a splash in the meta so with that being said do you think Fire King will be the most popular deck in top cuts at YCS once Phantom Nightmare is out?
@@dgayle2348 Snake Eyes Populous and Promethean Princess. You pretty much play the snake eyes line. While it is a bit more fragile to Droll than before. You can still end on a decent board. Granted the Ken and Gen version is dead as Josh said so this is the best alternative you can pick up when playing Mikanko.
Guys when it comes to runick decks which are the best variants because I love how runick works but I never know whats good I'm using generaider runick rn
While I can concede that this was a good banlist, I just don’t know what to play anymore. I was playing Infernoble, and with Isolde the deck felt like it could be played pure just fine at the regional level now it feels much worse. I have been testing tri brigade fire king but it doesn’t feel like it has that much longevity. And I used to one truck Spright but i don’t have confidence in it anymore. It feels like the format is gonna be all sinful spoils and if you can’t afford it you can’t play. So I’m kind of at a loss.
thoughts on ghoti josh? i know you said you where interested in what the deck could provide in a format, and I planned to pick it up as an alternative of choice if labrynth is too heavily prepared for or gets outpaced come january
Would be nice to know your opinion about Voiceless Voice (Silenforc in OCG), that seems to be a good deck in OCG basing my comment on Road of the King reports
Hey Josh! What do you think about Gold Pride P.U.N.K. in this upcoming format? I really like the 3 upstart turning on your gold pride cards, even though it is still weak to droll.
Honestly, i'm kinda annoyed that the virus cards, calamity, acid golem, and puppet lock didn't get shot down. The list was still amazing, but some of the most degenerate plays in the game are still allowed, and the number of times that i have been hit by eradicator, and could no longer keep up in grind game that i otherwise would have.
How can you say Runick is very environment dependent and not say that for lab. Labrynth can't really be the best deck, but obviously has strength to stay as second or third best consistently.
As a swordsoul player everyone was hyped and just like Apple dragon I think we all agreed the card was bad 😂😂 now if you can put in a word for my friend Protos 👀😂😂😂
Im coping on tear right now but I think the way to go is a heavy kash variant focused on summoning through birth/self effect and sending kash tear to the gy by card effect to get mills going. Then the old ocg dracossack route into cherubini sprind. Tldr yeah I think its safe because lots of resources needed to get to pilgrim reaper when beatrice exists.
also shouldn't we be moving into another hand trap format? hand traps were used for this format to stop decks and now those decks are neutered. I feel like hand traps are a lot more impactful now. guess we will see post phni
I’m sorry to say Josh, but plants are still here to stay…😬 They honestly didn’t even take a hit. Imagining that the aroma support didn’t even exist, simply adding a Laurel to the deck and increasing melias to 3 can still get the same end board. I have done hours of play-testing with my friend with him using multiple competitive decks, and I have still played through 1-3 hand traps depending on the hand. Plants will never die Josh, get over it. 😘😂 Also, Merry Christmas! 🎄
Justiciar is good in World Chalice specifically,and that's mainly because the only deck that can access it consistently or without using bad cards is World Chalice itself
Dude ive been on exosister for last 4 months and you are wrong the deck is so good in this format it doesn't need its grave and d-shifter turn one just wins games plus there is so many ways for exosisters to spot remove banish and just end on great boreds
I’m on so much copium but honestly I love Orcust and think that it’s not terrible now with harp. If your opponent doesn’t have bystials in hand or you have babel then harp is actually a big deal for the deck. In Orcust I don’t think that IB is actually that big of a deal
My goofy ahh still summoning Mo Ye in 2024: 👴
I mean it's still a decent deck lol. it's not like it's turbo garbage. Plus you can combine it with SuperHeavy Samurais for more spicy turns.
If youre girl and Moye are trounin'. U know what I mean
Me too m8 me too 👨🏼🦳
man swordsoul get fucked so hard by TYPHON , he can beat over the lvl 8 swordsoul synchro and bounce the lvl 10 , i mean blackout exists but you kinda need a good hand for that
lol, I was playing Swordsoul for a while too. Mannadium is a better version of swordsoul. It usually ends on a better board and doesn’t lose to imperm or veiler.
problem with speedroid kashtira is the fact that shang-baronne-crystal wing are the best and really only extra deck monsters you want to end on. The deck isn’t consistent at getting at least 2 of those out either. The space for non engine is amazing, but it feels like we’re 1 good wind synchro 8 or 10 away from it being a potentially solid deck.
Baronnne is a wind
@@andersondavis1228 yeah I’m saying it needs more than just baronne though
SpeedKash doesn’t even end on Crystal Wing. You want to make Clear Wing Fast or Dawn Dragster instead.
It doesn’t need a strong board anyway, the massive amount of non-engine it can play gets you into long games where Baronne and Fenrir really show their long-term value. But another good option would be reeeeally nice. I’m begging for a quick effect pop…
@@cashcloakburmy depending on the hand, when you have an extra extender, you can make it with piper’s level reduction effect. Some hands wind lock you and doesn’t allow you to play dragster at times either. Not all builds will play it, but they can make it and its something some builds do play.
Pig keep using your untouched deck you are still the best, nice player not recommended from komoney , nice game nice player yes all good men you are the best yes continue like that
Generaider Runick can either 3 hand rip on your starting turn and 1 hand rip on opponents next MP1, or can just 2 hand rip (yoru MP1) 2 board break on opponents turn and I think thats wild.
All done because of ib
With Diviner as a starter only, not consistent enough
And if you get handtrap on her, you can just play classic Generaider/Runick, which is barely okay in general
The deck was doing that before Ib
Pig Joshua keep using your untouched deck you are still the best, nice player not recommended from komoney , nice game nice player yes all good men you are the best yes continue like that
@@ysano3500 ash and hugin are Ib dont need diviner
I know exactly what Josh is thinking right now, "This is Plunder Patroll's time to shine". And you know what, he is right
Probably the worst time to play plunder.. It doesnt work well with only fire attribute and we are about to witness tier 0 fire
As a plunder player, the deck has been powercrept. It stuggles so much and its follow up cant compete with the likes of lab and fire kings.
Magnum PI momento
Runick plunder probably has more potentials tbh
@@ehschargers6510just play Plunder Lab deck then lol, it's actually work
I totally agree with what you said about Rescue-ace, but let me add something: The deck is heavily reliant on diabell package, so 1 handtrap(ash/imperm diabell monster/spell) can end its turn since its hard to see airlifter in the opening hand post banlist.
I kinda disagree with you. I have a mate that plays RACE without the Diabellstar Package and he almost always sets up the 4 Spells/Traps with Turbulence. That deck is scary as fuck. I tried Imperm/Veiler on Turbulence and Ash on Emergency. Also going 2nd with Boardbreakers and even then you don't beat it 2 out of 3 times thanks to him playing Crossout for Evenly and Lightning Storm.
You still need to respect it without the Diabell package otherwise you get your ass kicked 😬
@seppmeierthegreat332
How is it possible to special summon turbulence when airlifter is at 1(almost impossible to have 2 rescue-ace cards in gy), especially without diabell ?
@@dhiaajalloul7218 You get to it through Hydrant or Emergency. Also Prosperity helps.
Ishizu Tear may have lost but people that love Tear as an archetype have won: Ishizu cards doomed tear cards to be hit over and over, now we might finally have some respite
Yeah, I hope we get some stuff back (I'm coping but I want kitkallos back...)
Runic Generaider with a Justiciar package is genuinely bonkers, a very fun runic variant with some problems but also insane potential. I'd like to know what you think?
Can you give an example of a combo line using the three archetypes?
Yeah a explain will be cool, I think runick generaider have insane potential I buy it and I want to test it a lot.
I just don't see how people think this runick generaider combo is good. If you've ever played runick you know how important having the fountain on the field is. The minute you take out the fountain to put in a boss stage you automatically turn off your activations from the hand and fountain draws, and grind game + recycling and drawing has always been the strongest part of runick. Any other field spell you can play with runick would need to be genuinely insane in order to justify removing fountain from field, and I just don't see how generaider is it
@@MineteInc you try generaider? Full combo generaider is normaly gg, you have enough grind game with generaider
@@MineteInc you dont play a normal runick control type deck
In my opinion Exosister will be the underdog of this format, bc the ability to work without the gy and having like 4 banish w full combo + other interruptions, it's not so bad... of course if you are unlucky af and get ashed/drolled in the right spot it's quite difficult to grind, but beside that, in my opinion, it's quite good, a solid choice I guess...
If they get a way to power through 1 hand trap in most opening hands theyre definitely going up the list. Ash and droll hurt whenever they appear
droll in the right spot? you just shotgun it.. Also I think you should always ash marta, if you ash martha it is hard to make magnifica.. (you'll need sakitama, stella, elis and martha), and without magnifica, exosister is just trash
@@Saens406of course it was a generic says.... I play exo and I perfectly know how works well droll against this deck 😂
Also, I think that in certain decklists, the ash on martha it isn't always a kill, because with the extenders that exists and that you can play on it, you can manage to do something... best ash will remain the one on Kaspitell, after you summoned it with Martha effect + elis 🫥
@@thewhitewolf8658 no bro you are so wrong.. Tell me what extenders exist to full combo after beeing ash on martha?? ash on kaspitell is bad, you just need aratama or sakitama+any exo to full combo. While when ashing martha you need 4 specific cards to full combo..
@@Saens406I haven't understood that you were talking about making magnifica, I was talking simply about the exosister's board after an Ash on martha... 😅
Beside that yes, full combo without any other name on the board before it's impossible, bc with spirits or cyber dark combo, you have to do 1 normal summon, so you can't... but hey, it's human to be wrong sometimes; ps: I still think that if you have done martha's opening and you get ash'ed on the first xyz, it's game for the oppo, but that's an opinion, I usually lose games this way so
Ah i see. Not only did joshua chose every hit in the banlist, but he made sure every single card could be use to grind content!!
Truly one of the best moments before ending this Year in the JoshuaVerse
10:15 so right now the best idea for mikanko is using the psi reflector package for power tool braver dragon, and the wanted engine can still be very useful because you can grab jet or renaud to grab back arabesque, its not nearly as good as it was, but personally I do think it can still be playable, maybe idk Ill have to test it more
I know Josh is excited about the limits to the Sunavalon portion of plant deck, but Aroma and Rikka go really well together too and Aroma has some crazy support coming soon. I wouldn't call plant dead yet.
No no let him forget
We don't want him to see it coming
Well it's dead until Feb
I think Professor Schmidt cares more about one-card combos than archetypes on their own. if the new version of plants doesn't have a a degen one card combo, he'd be cool with it I think
@@Mallalotro tragically, new version of plants absolutely has a one card combo
@@Mallalotro unfortunately even if Joshua is one of the biggest players of all time, he is not that objective when he's valutating the real power of a certain deck. For him a one card combo deck is cancer meanwhile a deck which can manage resources better than other is fine even if it can be resilient to most hand traps (like unchained or r-ace) being even more unfair than any one card combo deck which can be stopped with 1 hand trap. The saddest part is that komoney seems to listen to him and make his wishlist (not banned list) come true. That's very terrifying..
I think Salad will be really good when we get the link3 princess. I never liked the floodgate version I always felt like those slots would be better used for handtraps and/or crossout and nib
Im gonna be working on centurion. They have the space to play non engine vs the upcoming top decks and stoping calamity means playing cards that dont answer cards that answer your deck
Mikanko is definitely in a better spot than infernoble right now, they still have ample lines to play along, and have snatch steal now to reuse. Not to mention many of the same supports that infernoble has also work with mikanko ( power tool synchros especially)
Why do people say them getting snatch steal is a big thing? The already had it before
@@resetzz984 while they do have reflection rondo, it is nowhere near as good overall. that's the short of it, the _long_ of it is:
rondo prevents you from using the activated effects of the monster you take. on top of this, you have to control a mikanko to even perform the steal, which means that many decks can just hit your mikanko when it touches the board, and take their monster right back.
the better aspect of rondo would be that it's untargetable under hu-li, but the problem is that (as has happened to me more times than i can recall) even as a one-of, opening rondo is an absolute pain with or without a mikanko in hand, because you cannot even use the card without investing more into the board.
snatch steal forces an immediate answer with or without a mikanko, can be used in almost every single way that rondo can, and doesn't prevent you from using the effects of the card you steal. it is more vulnerable to removal, but when you can throw ohime down and use the effect to make it a quick play, non targeting theft, does that really matter?
What are thoughts on other Cyberse decks now that Mathmech Circular is gone? @Ignisters and Code Talkers come to mind.
Other than marincess and salad they are straight up dead
Even though I do think Unchained maybe a solid deck and will get somewhat a new card from PHNI, I'm not too keen on it doing that great. Where yes, Berserk Archfiend can help trigger your Unchained monsters, the BIGGEST factor when it came to Sharvara was the quick effect pop that even included set cards to dodge stuff. I don't know, I feel Unchained may fall off to where it might be rather a Lab variant than well an Unchained deck.
I think Branded is very big sleeper pick right now, as the puppet lock is toxic but it's turn-ending making it one of the best going first decks, and superpoly and bystials main deck make very good going second against a lot of the meta like Lab, Bystial Runick and Fire King.
What's the puppet lock?
@TheKinfing You send the lv 8 gimmick puppet nightmare to grave with branded fusion then special it to your opponent's field with sanctifire Albion. The moment nightmare his the field, it locks your opponent out of special summon for the entire turn
Unlike Iblee or acid golem, the effect is lingering so removing nightmare does nothing
@@TheKinfingTo add on to what @phucdisshiet6838 said, you can also send the puppet using Granguignol, allowing you to use your branded fusion to send other things like send lubellion make it over albion for the extra body and continuous spell.
RIP Shavara hoping for a release from the banlist prison in the future
Wait for Phantom Nightmare in February. A new card in this set will turn Unchained into a great deck! Trust me
@@flamehashira1272 what card? are you talking berserk archfiend?
@@antyoung24 yes! berserk archfiend is not as good as sharvara but its going to be great for unchained
Deck unplayable still lol. Fire king will be tier 0 so GL.
@@pwny1000 do your reseaches. Deck still goes crazy. And the only tier 0 deck will be labrynth, so stay mad fire king boy 😂 GL
Why couldnt they put Air Lifter to 2 at least? Race turn 2 was so nice because even if your backrow got Lightning Stormed, you could still use your monsters effect to survive that turn and gain recources while doing so. It was such a cool deck man but now its FTK or lose. Very upsetting IdkIdkIdk
Virtual world, dinomorphia, and earth machine?
What’s your thoughts on marincess? And I really enjoy these huge banlist! Hope it is a wide format again.
If the format ends up being a handtrap one, Marincess is solid. 1.5 months from now you can maindeck D.D. Crow vs FK.
Thoughts on the best deck or decks for the horus engine? Runick Horus seems like it could be super strong if Bystials are subpar this format.
Runick Horus can banish 12 Cards from your Opponent and still build up to 3 Negates, only problem is consistency maybe.
Problem with Horus? Ash on Imsety is so painful
I'd love to hear your thoughts on generaider runick with Ib being used to search monstrosity and runick slepneir being a free level 9. Can hand rip up to 4
i disagree with kash over exo, pretty much exo is kash with extra steps that can also dig through the deck but way stronger
Wrong
lets cope
Your opinion on Punk Goldpride would be nice. Upstart of the list isnt huge but still interesting.
Exosister is defiantly solid, too many decks want/need their graveyard and with magnifica not targeting really hurts a lot of decks.
When I play it, it feels weak
Can I get a decklist?
exosisters is one of those decks that only resonate if you're a bad bitch im afraid youve got to up ur pussy game luv@@delgande
Pig Joshua keep using your untouched deck you are still the best, nice player not recommended from komoney , nice game nice player yes all good men you are the best yes continue like that
@@delgande Generally,
3x Martha
3x Elis
2 or 1x Stella
1x Sophia
0x Irene (worst brick, run it if you want extra vadis targets but its really generally not worth it)
2 or 1x Returnia
2 or 1x Vadis
(Neither Vadis or Returnia are required to be at 2 but you definitely need 1 of each and I prefer 2 since they generally feel really strong)
3x Pax
3x Aratama
2 or 3x Sakitama
Besides that, just whatever non engine you want. Definitely 3 shifter though.
Extra is pretty self explanatory, highly recommend Zeus, Ty-phon, and Bagooska and then just the entire exosister gang
@@delgande The deck is very fragile and crumbles fairly easily so it often feels weak for that reason, however if it pops off it often wins *very* fast
What does he mesn with Mikanko and Ben&Ken? The Deck nearly topped in Bologna? Or even topped
It sounds like almost every good deck besides Rescue Ace does pretty well against Labrynth. I wouldn't be surprised if it took its usual place as the worst tier 1 or best tier 2 deck.
Yeah people are overestimating lab simply due to it being unchanged, the player base of notable lab pilots will likely not change exponentially as it is not a deck that you can just pick up and succeed with immediatky
With some of the more powerful decks getting checked, do you think decks like Phantom Knights, Darkworld, Marincess, etc, start seeing more success?
Solid vid Josh love your content always very calming and informative. Now as for a deck idea what do you think of Runick Chimera or Runick Fur Hire? Even though as a community Lab for sure wins the most with this ban list I actually don't think it will become as popular as Rescue Ace or Unchained when they started making a splash in the meta so with that being said do you think Fire King will be the most popular deck in top cuts at YCS once Phantom Nightmare is out?
I can wait a month after the banlist for Mikanko to shine again.
Mikanko Snake Eyes is gonna be a good contender once PHNI drops.
What is phni getting that benefits mikanko? Is that the set with their new cards?
@@dgayle2348 Snake Eyes Populous and Promethean Princess.
You pretty much play the snake eyes line. While it is a bit more fragile to Droll than before. You can still end on a decent board. Granted the Ken and Gen version is dead as Josh said so this is the best alternative you can pick up when playing Mikanko.
Did you see the runick orcust bystial lists? What's your thoughts on them?
Me as a plunder Andy
"just give us a wind ship Konami"
I ordered a rikka core that same day...and then they did this
What do you think of Dino go 2gnd Witherspoon pankra x2 ?
Guys when it comes to runick decks which are the best variants because I love how runick works but I never know whats good I'm using generaider runick rn
Wooo, let's goooo. Tiaraments strongest 🎉🎉
(Merry Christmas gang)
Also if i have to play Labrynth in MD for the next year I will be extremely upset
ngl, i think Volcsnics are kinda nice after Maze of Millenia and Phantom Knightmare
guys do you think a black rose runick deck well built could work?
in master duel i mean
What do you think of the new silenforce ritual deck
What do you think about drytron.
Drytron have a good matchup against the new fire kings, runick and rescue ace usw... . And Lab is fine against it.
Has Josh tried Adventure Synchron at all? Or the Mannadium Synchron variant?
I really enjoy playing mikanko. I dont play tourneys or nothing i just play master duel casual and ranked. And play with friends.
Superheavy ? What about this deck ?
how good is duston after the current ban list? asking for a friend
What are your thoughts on the runick generator??
While I can concede that this was a good banlist, I just don’t know what to play anymore. I was playing Infernoble, and with Isolde the deck felt like it could be played pure just fine at the regional level now it feels much worse. I have been testing tri brigade fire king but it doesn’t feel like it has that much longevity. And I used to one truck Spright but i don’t have confidence in it anymore. It feels like the format is gonna be all sinful spoils and if you can’t afford it you can’t play. So I’m kind of at a loss.
thoughts on ghoti josh? i know you said you where interested in what the deck could provide in a format, and I planned to pick it up as an alternative of choice if labrynth is too heavily prepared for or gets outpaced come january
Love from Mexico Joshua!
Bro, why does masterduelmeta say that Braded Bystial is the top deck atm. Am I missing something?
What do you think of Runick Chimera
Branded Synchro??
what do you think about PK Horus Adventure?
Would be nice to know your opinion about Voiceless Voice (Silenforc in OCG), that seems to be a good deck in OCG basing my comment on Road of the King reports
Probably a long shot of being competitive - Where do Sky STriker builds sit these days (both pure and split with say Runick?)
Dogshit unfortunately
Do you thino traptrix can be a good rogue deck?
What about pendulum magician/z-arc ?
Josh what is your opinion on Pendel (in general and Z-Arc)
triple terror top does nothing for the speedroid deck cuss it can only search once per turn
Circular got banned even from being talked about in the tier list
Hey Josh! What do you think about Gold Pride P.U.N.K. in this upcoming format? I really like the 3 upstart turning on your gold pride cards, even though it is still weak to droll.
Trash
Do you think i should play upstart goblin in 2nd sky striker? Droll surely hurts, but free spell count and consistency, you know
pk/horus pk/brave pk?
Thoughts on chimera runick?
What do you think was missing in this ban list? I feel it was pretty strong tho.
Idk why you put Swordsoul in these lists. I never see it in any tops at all
Sky striker since you now have options Mind control to 3,change of heart snatch steal and triple tactics talent....
Honestly, i'm kinda annoyed that the virus cards, calamity, acid golem, and puppet lock didn't get shot down.
The list was still amazing, but some of the most degenerate plays in the game are still allowed, and the number of times that i have been hit by eradicator, and could no longer keep up in grind game that i otherwise would have.
Merry Christmas my fellow duelist.
Any opinions on Dragonmaids? Chamber dragon form when?
hey hey. josh. Sala got terror to 2 for better plays into nib etc and with the princess the deck is strong. not as strong as fire king but still
How can you say Runick is very environment dependent and not say that for lab. Labrynth can't really be the best deck, but obviously has strength to stay as second or third best consistently.
Winners:
Dinowrestler players
Yes, we exist and don’t win a single game in locals
What about Horus decks?
Madolche going second or Glass Control is kinda spicy.
i feel like since all of the top decks are so grave heavy exo is a good pick
As a swordsoul player everyone was hyped and just like Apple dragon I think we all agreed the card was bad 😂😂 now if you can put in a word for my friend Protos 👀😂😂😂
where Dark World?
What about PK Horus ?
I'll be so sad if Tear starts building around Pilgrim Reaper before we finally get a rank 6 zombie deck/engine
Im coping on tear right now but I think the way to go is a heavy kash variant focused on summoning through birth/self effect and sending kash tear to the gy by card effect to get mills going.
Then the old ocg dracossack route into cherubini sprind.
Tldr yeah I think its safe because lots of resources needed to get to pilgrim reaper when beatrice exists.
Poor Mathmech, he did nothing 😂
He doesn't even put it on the list lol, shit is so dead
Merry Christmas 🎉
i wonder if kitkalos limited would be fine with the millers banned and all the fusion names at 1
Even if they remove one of the fusion tears like md Ill gladly exchange 1 for kit ngl
If you stop Mannadium at the first ht you'll probably win the game.
If you don't stop Mannadium at the first ht you'll definitely gonna lose the game.
also shouldn't we be moving into another hand trap format? hand traps were used for this format to stop decks and now those decks are neutered. I feel like hand traps are a lot more impactful now. guess we will see post phni
abc?
What abou ABC revolution?
Are they budget options?
Other than Quem, Branded isn't all that expensive
Floow, swordsoul and branded are the ones
There was 0 Manaddium in the top 64 in YCS Bologna. People cope so much.
Stop Lightheart, banish Visas = they scoop 99.99% -.-
How did Laberyth didn't got hit at all is beyond me
What about sky orcust
Theyre fun but seem powercrept already sadly. Definitely spicy if played today though.
What about suships?
Fun in a casual setting.
In other words, "Would not" in that list.
I’m sorry to say Josh, but plants are still here to stay…😬 They honestly didn’t even take a hit. Imagining that the aroma support didn’t even exist, simply adding a Laurel to the deck and increasing melias to 3 can still get the same end board. I have done hours of play-testing with my friend with him using multiple competitive decks, and I have still played through 1-3 hand traps depending on the hand. Plants will never die Josh, get over it. 😘😂
Also, Merry Christmas! 🎄
Justiciar is good in World Chalice specifically,and that's mainly because the only deck that can access it consistently or without using bad cards is World Chalice itself
k but what about dream mirror
Speedroid enjoyer here, we still have a bad deck but we are in fact eating.
where skystrikers?
Dude ive been on exosister for last 4 months and you are wrong the deck is so good in this format it doesn't need its grave and d-shifter turn one just wins games plus there is so many ways for exosisters to spot remove banish and just end on great boreds
Let's hope mannadium will be good at least in tcg now 😅😢
I’m on so much copium but honestly I love Orcust and think that it’s not terrible now with harp. If your opponent doesn’t have bystials in hand or you have babel then harp is actually a big deal for the deck. In Orcust I don’t think that IB is actually that big of a deal
Josh tell Konami you want chaos ruler back. they seem to like you