UPDATE: I had a chance to test an upcoming build of Batocera v36 and it resolves the issues I had when getting Batocera to boot on this mini PC. So it will be a very capable Batocera mini PC once v36 is released!
@@BP-hs3wl it usually takes a month or two for final releases to come out. But it's easy enough to install 35 and then update to the latest 36 beta build via their menus, you'll just have to do that part on a PC that is not the SER5 for now. Once you have updated to v36 beta you can then use that sd card/disk drive on the SER5.
@@RetroGameCorps Awesome, thank you RGC! Last question, would you recommend the SER5 or the Minisforum TH50? I'm super torn betweeen the two. Comparing the videos side by side it looks like the ser5 had better emulation performance, but it does have the thermal concern. Using it for emulation. Please guide me sensei :)
After 40 Year of playing this "game" I've learned something: Only the machine of your desktop counts. Not what is new - buy one, be happy and then !!! -> don't look any advert in the new 2 years and you are a lucky one 🙂 After 2 year - does it fit's your needs? Then expand the "non advert time" for one year... you'll save a lot of money.
Just got one for Christmas as a travel PC and so far I'm extremely happy. This seems to do everything pretty well considering the specs/size. I'd buy it again - no issues.
I think it would be fantastic if you could add more PC games from the PS360 era to your lineup and show how well these run at high settings in 1080p (and thus better than on the respective consoles). It would also be in line with your channel name !
Just snagged one of these for $367 off Amazon after getting sick of the build a budget pc that makes me happy game. I'd just learned of this Beelink device a week ago and was thrilled to find the lower price. Loved your video, I'm super excited to get mine here in a couple days. I mostly play retro games but I've been stockpiling games I couldn't currently run on my old pc for a couple years now so I'm expecting a lot of satisfaction. Thanks for the great video, looking forward to watching more.
by any chance, have you tried Teknoparrot on it?... Prime Day is the 11/12 and it might dip a little. Want this with a Sinden + Batocera Teknoparrot for my ALU.
Just wanted to come here and say that I really appreciate your reviews and insights. I also watched your SER3 video and the part where you compared it to a 4th gen and gt 1030 was tremndously helpful to gauge an area of performance. Thank you very much my friend and keep up the good work! subbed!
I bought this one at Amazon on sale for $367 after seeing your well informed video. I got totally stumped trying to troubleshoot my new AMD PC build and was really missing a Windows OS for my games and online stuff I do. I may even forget about the build and just use this instead.
This is by far the best review out of all the reviews I watched before this one. A great video among great videos. Thank you. I'm happy with my purchase.
Thanks for this post I was about to buy the ser4 but with this review I'm sold. I'm really in love with your mini pc reviews. This ser5 will fulfill all my video editing and gaming emulation needs THANKS AGAIN
I just picked one up on amazon for $397 since I don't need 32gb ram right this second and I already have a WD black SN750 2TB I can stick in it. It was just delivered a couple of hours ago. Thanks for showing the teardown it looks way easier than I thought it would be.
@@michaelsoogd2725 It's a fast pc for it's size. I upgraded the ram to 32gb kingston fury impact. Only issue I really noticed is the wifi would disconnect after a while and had to disable re-enable which I was able to fix with a driver from another motherboard posted on some reddit forum. I increased the shared vram in the bios to 4gb. Although I wish it had a usb-c port in the back so I could use that instead of hdmi.
Everytime I see one if those Mini PC reviews I'm blown out of the park. So much power in such a small package. Makes me wonder if I should get one or try to find a pre built PC with similar specs. Like the PC I can right now doesn't even have half the power and I'm wondering how I can upgrade to a better one without having to buy an expensive Gaming PC.
@Shiny Agumon Look up your specs and google it's upgradeability. You should be able to find out whether or not you can add ram or a better power supply or a better graphics card.
6:13 - I have the R7 5800H variant with the following BIOS adjustments: 40W TDP (stock 35W) 8GB VRAM (stock 3GB) Cinebench: 9978 pts A few tweaks in the BIOS can dramatically increase performance. Cap the temp at 80C with Ryzen Controller and the SER5 Pro is the best bang for buck midrange without spending a small fortune on the higher-end GTR.
I know this is old, but I found your reddit post and Ive been deep diving into getting a mini pc for traveling, im a basic man, I play last epoch and youtube and this helped me
I had a couple of Beelink PCs a decade ago in my business and they were just okay. However I can see that they've really upped their game. This is a serious bargain for a HTPC or basic PC for kids or older relatives who just need a PC for basic use. They have become serious hardware with serious specs and support.
I just buy it fir emulation only and run Batocera v36 from ssd perfectly ❤ This Mini PC is really awesome for emulation and cover all my needs I will upgrade it fir 32gb RAM and 1tb SSD Nvme Ceucual P3
There I go again. Buying s#!+ because Russ told me to! Lol! So happy, didn’t know this existed. Love my BeeLink DYI Android Box. I used your video to set it up!
I have the SER5 Max (Ryzen 7 5800H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD) and would be interested to see what you think when comparing the Standard SER 5 and MAX versions, as you are yet to include it in the spreadsheet as a comparative product. From what I can see so far everything you have put as untested for the standard model works fine on the MAX model.
hello I think I'm gonna go for the SER5 Max. I initially saw it with RGT 85 on youtube, and went to discord and didn't get a better suggestion for $299 or even higher with more game compatibility. it could exist, just adding info have you had any negative experiences worth mentioning? I'd like to game and test its limits, thoigh i prefer 2000s games, look through and sort files, and maybe do some kindergarten level vacation video editing. I'm 33 and just know how to clip off junk parts of video thanks for any insight
I am very soon about to buy the Ryzen 7 5700U (8C/16T), 16 GB DDR4, 500GB NVMe SSD, and the Radeon RX Vega 8 iGPU! I plan on using this with either a Keychron K8 Pro or Keychron V3 and a 27" 1080p 100Hz monitor, which I will also be getting soon. I will be installing Arch Linux and KDE Plasma to it. I already have a Razer Viper Mini as a mouse, and I have a wired HyprX headset and a BLUEDEE wired/usb wireless/bluetooth headset.
Just ordered one and canceled the Ser3. It's going behind my component stand to replace a 7 year old i5 laptop. I don't game but stream a lot of music and TH-cam. Great review!!
Great! I just got one today and found it for $399 after a discount was applied in the big A store. Taxes brought it back up a bit but still not too bad. Mine will just be a living room HTPC. Coulda went with a cheaper/lesser machine but I don't want to be frustrated later if/when updates starts to make it slower.
I bought my wife a Beelink mini BEAST of a mini computer! She's an online content creator that what she does uses a LOT of processing power. The one that I bought her is no longer available. It's SHOULD still be available because the specs on her system FAR exceeds all other mini computers. Here are her specs.... Beelink 5900HX GR9 GTR5 Mini PC, AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX (up to 4.6GHz), Mini Gaming Computer 64GB DDR4 1TB NVMe SSD, 4K@60Hz Triple Display HDMI&DP&Type-C 54W WiFi6E BT5.2 Dual 2.5Gbps LAN Yes, If needed, I would TOTALLY buy it again..... Finding it in that specific specs isn't gonna be easy though!!
I think RTSS Has a scale slider for the overlay size if you are using msi afterburner. This mini pc looks very good for the price and size. Hope they update with one of those new APUs with RDNA cores.
I think this would be great for my adoptive dad. He's using WalMart-bought junk from 2015 (so hardware from 2013) currently, for internet browsing and paying bills, but he WANTS to run flight sims and alike at low settings that "Iris Graphics" just can't handle.
I'm sure you are familiar with Tom's Hardware, might I suggest creating a ranked list of mini PC performance and Handheld performance. Would be a great addition to your already stellar site. You could even link to affiliate links from a list like that!
Beelink has the most dreadful so called tech support team. If you have a post purchase trouble - like first the fan goes 79dB then rattles and eventually dies... - you are by yourself. The tech support team is evading, avoiding, promising but does absolutely jacksh.t! Less than a month old Ser5 Ryzen 7 machine is a doorstop...
I got the ser4 Ryzen 7 4700U on prime day for $337...hard to pass up at that price. So far so good...i was contemplating a steam deck but there's a wait time for that and i didn't plan to use it as a handheld anyway...i haven't tried any emulation on it but that's not a priority. I wanted something that's better than my raspberry pi4 which i was using as my main PC and it definitely is.
Steam Decks are cool but I think you made the right move. Plus you can upgrade the ram. This device is also lightweight and portable. I’m looking at both and at this point I am leaning toward this. I see it lasting longer also.
I know it's a very niche request, but I would love to see reviewers test these boxen wit VCV Rack 2 (the free Eurorack synth simulator). I want to order this machine to run this program (I have an external audio card by M-Audio so I wouldn't be relying on the onboard). The software is demanding, but if it ran reasonably in one of these boxes I would drop the cash in an heartbeat.
@John Smith I got this 5600H SER5, bit dissapointed to find that Beelink is no longer providing the metal case for the 5600H anymore its the same plastic case as in the 5560U, feeling kind of cheated by Beelink, they send the better units to reviewers and once it gets enough attention change the component silently, not good business practice.
Hmmm... a steal, you say? Now, if only anyone here in Europe could get this for anything even getting somewhere near that price - my best here for the same setup (16G+500SSD) would be 649 EUR, minus 50 EUR Amazon rebate, equals 599 EUR... yeah, no, not really a steal to me *sigh* 😞...
exactly! actually it goes for 659EUR without any rebate on .de 😞Same situation here too, every time i see these nice mini pc performing so well for those prices, then i check back here in EU and boom..
@@Andrea-dc4iz You are actually slowly realizing why EU is not US. You will hear US citizen have on average 3 times EU net salaries, that their product is about 3 quarter of the price of us. You'll also hear the classical lie that healthcare is expensive. Well, much cheaper than in countries where it's "free". The thing is that if an USA citizen pay an health insurance, then it's more affordable than here. I pay around 144€ per year, which would translate to roughly 576$ and that's without accounting for the exchange rate, just the buying power. American also have a tendency to buy in bulk, it's why they have the laughably big jug of milk and juice. So, it drives cost of living even more. And yes, we can see rent going from 1000$ to 3000$ a month... well, I pay 1000€ a month and not alone. So, even rent is effectively cheaper. In fact, it's the same effect as when we hear that 86 Fahrenheit is hot (30 Celsius). EU is heavily taxed. An employer pay at least twice the salary, the employee pays between 30% and 50% of it's salary back to the state. There are taxes on products we buy too. It can drive the effective tax ((1-final net)/(original gross)) up to 80% to 90%. Belgium is one of the worst countries in that regard. Also, we still have to pay for health insurance, it's even mandatory and a bit more expensive than in the US by buying power. In Belgium. we had the issue that some people worked to USA, but didn't save for retirement. They came back and the country couldn't really pay them as you usually receive a percentage of what you forcibly saved through various taxes and retirement participation. So, they ended up on social warfare. One may think it made a dent to the state finances: it didn't! It was just news worthy. There is so much wasted money that a bit of more waste was just drowned. It's as bad as it can get. There were even TV Shows based on wasted money and they all disappeared ^^ And before the elections, ministers validate a lot of construction work, to show they are doing something. Often wasting money to undo something they did few years ago, There are area that are switching between two configurations as election happen ^^ Still, roads sucks for the most part. Even on side walk, you pray for your ankles.
@@Andrea-dc4iz Yeah, 659 is the second best offer on .de, at the moment - yesterday there was a 40 EUR rebate on that one, the 649 -50 is still on (but maybe you have to have Prime to get that...). Cool little machine, yes, but not for that kinda money - plus, the cooling system seems a bit close to the edge for this one, for my taste... Welcome to the "Look what I got here for a great price..." - "Yeah, no, not here, for that price..." club 😞... Plus, half of those things you can't get at all, without a ton of crowdfunding shenanigans before - call me old-fashioned, if you want, but I like to _buy_ stuff, instead of sinking my money now, and then waiting six, nine, twelve months to _maybe_ get something, that by then has changed 'somewhat' from what they announced 😉...
And that's just 7 CUs of VEGA, imagine 12 CUs of RNDA 2 like the 6800u at 28W - if there is more power the 6000 series H chips ofc. APUs are getting very viable for low end gaming, can't wait to see Zen 4 APUs with RDNA 3. Should power through almost everything at 1080p in a mini PC form factor.
I am really temped to buy one of these and turn it into a steamdeck console. I have my PC set up, I have my Steamdeck for handheld and I can't help but think that my TV needs something to run steam games, so I buy a game once and can play it in 3 places. Sounds perfect ngl...
As always great reviews. I am curious if it is possible to reuse the motherboards of this mini pc and move them to an mini atx case , with for example an GPU. Any thoughts?
Súper vídeo!! Podría hacer un vídeo con el Mini pc hystou f9. Tiene una gráfica integrada que en juegos puede dar mucho rendimiento y nadie lo explica cómo tu Russ. Gracias
I know it's dumb, but you should test Paper Mario The Thousand Year door on devices like this. But, specifically, you should test at the very beginning when the ship turns around. Bounding Box on that game is super resource intensive. Even on my GTX 1070 it slowed down when that ship turned around when I had it at 1080p.
This may be stupid but when I click on the link, the options are not for the chip R5 5600H. Instead they are R5 5500U or R7 5800H. Both have good coupons and are cheaper than when this was reviewed. Is there one I should get? I want to play up through PS3 with some Wii U and switch games as well.
Indeed, Batocera is designed for x86 architecture so most if not all intel or AMD based PCs should work. Probably need to set some booting preference in the BIOS for linux to properly boot up.
Great video as always, but the choice of the Linux distribution is the worst. Of course you have bad performance because Holo OS is using old drivers and an old kernel. In the future, you should switch to something like PopOS, Manjaro or even Nobara OS.
Too bad about thermal throttling this means that the old SER4 is still very good in comparison simply because it can change and go up to 50W TDP without thermal throttling. From where I live (outside US) I can find one Chinese seller who offered $470 for SER4 and SER5 for $490 considering I have no need for the latest model as my use are mostly old PC gaming and web browsing. PS3/360 era games no newer than early 2013 the PC version of those era games I'll be mostly playing on these MINI PCs.
I was planning on buying the SER5 for my personal Christmas present and run Batocera on it. Amazon has for about $250 (16g ram, and 500g hard drive). But I just heard you say Batocera doesn’t work on it 😢😮 Do you know if the new version of Batocera 38 might now work? Thanks for all you do!!!!
I'm looking for a bit of advice. I recently got the GT king pro for my emulation needs as running the Xbox series X for my usual lengthy gaming sessions has become rather expensive these days. However I'm looking to move my emulation up a notch. I've been looking at the ser5 pro 5600h and the see 4700u. The ser5 pro would be the top end of my budget at £369 for the 16gb one, that's direct from beelink. The ser 4700u is more budget friendly at £299 for the 16gb one. My main question is can both these boxes run Teknoparrot games and cemu/3DS easily? I would also be looking for easily playing supermodel 3, model2 as well as Dreamcast and Saturn games? Although the latter two I plan on modding both my Dreamcast and Saturn in the near future with ode once prices start to drop. Also in terms of power consumption how would this sit next to the GT king pro? I do have a capable pc but again not power consumption friendly. Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated 🙂
Is it better to buy the 5560U instead of the 5600H? performance difference is very less, more importantly Beelink is running the 5600H at lower TDP of 35W instead of rated TDP of 45W so any small performance advantage will be negated.
On PassMark the two score close , 1700 for the H and 1500 for the U I like the 15w MAX TGP of the U. Runs cooler more life maybe. Both have the same 4.2 GHZ turbo clock speed.
@n n yeah, the fact they dropped support for perfectly good GCN cards pre-Polaris is pretty sad though. Cards like the R9 290 and 390 are still decent for 1080p
Your spreadsheet is so wrong. I can't even get this machine to play GameCube. Let alone Switch which you say runs great. You need to elaborate or setup.
UPDATE: I had a chance to test an upcoming build of Batocera v36 and it resolves the issues I had when getting Batocera to boot on this mini PC. So it will be a very capable Batocera mini PC once v36 is released!
Me also
Only Batocera v36 ? How about Batocera v35 ?
Do you have any idea when Batocera 36 will be released? How did you get the Ser5 to emulate in the interim? Thanks for the vid!
@@BP-hs3wl it usually takes a month or two for final releases to come out. But it's easy enough to install 35 and then update to the latest 36 beta build via their menus, you'll just have to do that part on a PC that is not the SER5 for now. Once you have updated to v36 beta you can then use that sd card/disk drive on the SER5.
@@RetroGameCorps Awesome, thank you RGC! Last question, would you recommend the SER5 or the Minisforum TH50? I'm super torn betweeen the two. Comparing the videos side by side it looks like the ser5 had better emulation performance, but it does have the thermal concern. Using it for emulation. Please guide me sensei :)
I feel like every time I see these miniPC's I want to buy one. Then a month later another better one comes out.
After 40 Year of playing this "game" I've learned something: Only the machine of your desktop counts. Not what is new - buy one, be happy and then !!! -> don't look any advert in the new 2 years and you are a lucky one 🙂 After 2 year - does it fit's your needs? Then expand the "non advert time" for one year... you'll save a lot of money.
Same thing follows with the handhelds, I would be happy to have the mid point
Graphic< Stable game
A laptop is much better but a handheld js even better
@@hesspet cosign that for any form of tech too. Been trying to get myself to stop doing this dance for earbuds.
This one is pretty weak,Steam Deck,Aya Neo and Loki have better Specs and those are handhelds with the input to Display to TV or Monitors
Just got one for Christmas as a travel PC and so far I'm extremely happy. This seems to do everything pretty well considering the specs/size. I'd buy it again - no issues.
whats your monitor?
I'm just using a Dell s2319nx for day to day but I've attached my AOC 27G1G4 and it worked well too.
I think it would be fantastic if you could add more PC games from the PS360 era to your lineup and show how well these run at high settings in 1080p (and thus better than on the respective consoles). It would also be in line with your channel name !
Just snagged one of these for $367 off Amazon after getting sick of the build a budget pc that makes me happy game. I'd just learned of this Beelink device a week ago and was thrilled to find the lower price. Loved your video, I'm super excited to get mine here in a couple days. I mostly play retro games but I've been stockpiling games I couldn't currently run on my old pc for a couple years now so I'm expecting a lot of satisfaction. Thanks for the great video, looking forward to watching more.
how was it?
Do you know if it can run Garry's mod?
just bought a ser 5 5500u I couldn't believe you could stuff that much performance in such a small package so far, I am loving it.
by any chance, have you tried Teknoparrot on it?... Prime Day is the 11/12 and it might dip a little. Want this with a Sinden + Batocera Teknoparrot for my ALU.
I'm definitely a stickler for 60, but I can definitely appreciate how much performance is being found in that APU. thats a lot of fps per dollar
I’m glad I found this video. I just wanted to emulate up to PS2 and Gamecube…and this meets all my expectations!
Just wanted to come here and say that I really appreciate your reviews and insights. I also watched your SER3 video and the part where you compared it to a 4th gen and gt 1030 was tremndously helpful to gauge an area of performance. Thank you very much my friend and keep up the good work! subbed!
I bought this one at Amazon on sale for $367 after seeing your well informed video. I got totally stumped trying to troubleshoot my new AMD PC build and was really missing a Windows OS for my games and online stuff I do. I may even forget about the build and just use this instead.
This Video is 4 months old.
They sell for $450 Canadian now. (That's $330 US)
When they add a 6000 series cpu with RDNA2 this mini PC line will be a must have.
Yep, I expect a lot of us are thinking the same. It’s only a couple of months away, you’d think.
It will be more expensive probably no ? Because of ddr5.
@@TyphonLeTitan Twice minimum. +100% on the price.
This is by far the best review out of all the reviews I watched before this one. A great video among great videos. Thank you. I'm happy with my purchase.
Thanks for this post I was about to buy the ser4 but with this review I'm sold. I'm really in love with your mini pc reviews. This ser5 will fulfill all my video editing and gaming emulation needs THANKS AGAIN
How would you compare this and Mac mini m1?
I just picked one up on amazon for $397 since I don't need 32gb ram right this second and I already have a WD black SN750 2TB I can stick in it. It was just delivered a couple of hours ago. Thanks for showing the teardown it looks way easier than I thought it would be.
Hope you enjoy it!
How do you enjoy it since it's been around 2 month? Thanks.
@@michaelsoogd2725 It's a fast pc for it's size. I upgraded the ram to 32gb kingston fury impact. Only issue I really noticed is the wifi would disconnect after a while and had to disable re-enable which I was able to fix with a driver from another motherboard posted on some reddit forum. I increased the shared vram in the bios to 4gb. Although I wish it had a usb-c port in the back so I could use that instead of hdmi.
@@nit3h8wk81 That helps. Thank you.
Yay! Definitely can fall back to the mini PCs when it's a slow handheld week. I'm all for it!
Everytime I see one if those Mini PC reviews I'm blown out of the park. So much power in such a small package.
Makes me wonder if I should get one or try to find a pre built PC with similar specs. Like the PC I can right now doesn't even have half the power and I'm wondering how I can upgrade to a better one without having to buy an expensive Gaming PC.
@Shiny Agumon
Look up your specs and google it's upgradeability. You should be able to find out whether or not you can add ram or a better power supply or a better graphics card.
6:13 - I have the R7 5800H variant with the following BIOS adjustments:
40W TDP (stock 35W)
8GB VRAM (stock 3GB)
Cinebench: 9978 pts
A few tweaks in the BIOS can dramatically increase performance. Cap the temp at 80C with Ryzen Controller and the SER5 Pro is the best bang for buck midrange without spending a small fortune on the higher-end GTR.
Have you tested any Batocera with that variant?
I genuinely love your intro song lol
I know this is old, but I found your reddit post and Ive been deep diving into getting a mini pc for traveling, im a basic man, I play last epoch and youtube and this helped me
I had a couple of Beelink PCs a decade ago in my business and they were just okay. However I can see that they've really upped their game. This is a serious bargain for a HTPC or basic PC for kids or older relatives who just need a PC for basic use. They have become serious hardware with serious specs and support.
I just buy it fir emulation only and run Batocera v36 from ssd perfectly ❤
This Mini PC is really awesome for emulation and cover all my needs
I will upgrade it fir 32gb RAM and 1tb SSD Nvme Ceucual P3
I wish you would've shown off MAME emulation, but I have a feeling most of the later 3D games probably will run fine. Great overview video!
I own the SER5 MAX and Naomi, CPS, etc all run perfectly fine.
I snagged one of these today as a lightning deal with the $40 coupon. $389 out the door. Great deal.
That's a great price!
There I go again. Buying s#!+ because Russ told me to! Lol! So happy, didn’t know this existed. Love my BeeLink DYI Android Box. I used your video to set it up!
I have the SER5 Max (Ryzen 7 5800H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD) and would be interested to see what you think when comparing the Standard SER 5 and MAX versions, as you are yet to include it in the spreadsheet as a comparative product. From what I can see so far everything you have put as untested for the standard model works fine on the MAX model.
hello I think I'm gonna go for the SER5 Max. I initially saw it with RGT 85 on youtube, and went to discord and didn't get a better suggestion for $299 or even higher with more game compatibility. it could exist, just adding info
have you had any negative experiences worth mentioning? I'd like to game and test its limits, thoigh i prefer 2000s games, look through and sort files, and maybe do some kindergarten level vacation video editing. I'm 33 and just know how to clip off junk parts of video
thanks for any insight
Thank you for all the info on your videos. You’ve helped me be a total hero to my kids several times! Plus, it’s a blast.
I am very soon about to buy the Ryzen 7 5700U (8C/16T), 16 GB DDR4, 500GB NVMe SSD, and the Radeon RX Vega 8 iGPU! I plan on using this with either a Keychron K8 Pro or Keychron V3 and a 27" 1080p 100Hz monitor, which I will also be getting soon. I will be installing Arch Linux and KDE Plasma to it. I already have a Razer Viper Mini as a mouse, and I have a wired HyprX headset and a BLUEDEE wired/usb wireless/bluetooth headset.
I just bought one of these on Amazon for $250.00. Sure its 1 year old but for that price its kind of amazing based on this review.
Just ordered one and canceled the Ser3. It's going behind my component stand to replace a 7 year old i5 laptop. I don't game but stream a lot of music and TH-cam. Great review!!
Me too
Online streaming is not CPU intensive.
I did the same thing , it was the faster wifi 6 and more ram that I notice from my old i5 two core.
This would probably fit super nice in a gamecube
shows you how great the deck is even with 15 watts of power
If I have the money, I would definitely get this. Thanks for the review 👍🏾
Great! I just got one today and found it for $399 after a discount was applied in the big A store. Taxes brought it back up a bit but still not too bad. Mine will just be a living room HTPC. Coulda went with a cheaper/lesser machine but I don't want to be frustrated later if/when updates starts to make it slower.
I think this is a great choice for HTPC uses, and I agree that future-proofing is always best. Enjoy your SER5!
It is sold in China for 1600CNY(233USD) now, and with Ryzen 5800H(barebone computer).
Thank you thanks to you I found my Christmas present
That "teardown" was pretty minimalist, I'd like to see the other side of the mainboard arrangement and how is this thing cooled.
I doubt it's silent.
I bought my wife a Beelink mini BEAST of a mini computer! She's an online content creator that what she does uses a LOT of processing power. The one that I bought her is no longer available. It's SHOULD still be available because the specs on her system FAR exceeds all other mini computers. Here are her specs....
Beelink 5900HX GR9 GTR5 Mini PC, AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX (up to 4.6GHz), Mini Gaming Computer 64GB DDR4 1TB NVMe SSD, 4K@60Hz Triple Display HDMI&DP&Type-C 54W WiFi6E BT5.2 Dual 2.5Gbps LAN
Yes, If needed, I would TOTALLY buy it again..... Finding it in that specific specs isn't gonna be easy though!!
for roblox testing i'd try "The Wild West" it can look stunning but it can also make a pc chug. Great video though!
I think RTSS Has a scale slider for the overlay size if you are using msi afterburner. This mini pc looks very good for the price and size. Hope they update with one of those new APUs with RDNA cores.
9 months later and you still sold me Russ.. It arrives tomorrow 👾
I'm definitely will picking up this unit when its drop down to 350.00
I opted against getting a mini pc and got a Pi400 for the price it’s a bargain and emulates most stuff pretty well.
It's a real steal! They take your money for this CPU cooker. Planned obsolescence at it best.
I think this would be great for my adoptive dad. He's using WalMart-bought junk from 2015 (so hardware from 2013) currently, for internet browsing and paying bills, but he WANTS to run flight sims and alike at low settings that "Iris Graphics" just can't handle.
Never mind 😂😂😂 I just read your update comments!!!! Thank you!
Thank you for your information😊
I'm sure you are familiar with Tom's Hardware, might I suggest creating a ranked list of mini PC performance and Handheld performance. Would be a great addition to your already stellar site. You could even link to affiliate links from a list like that!
Beelink has the most dreadful so called tech support team. If you have a post purchase trouble - like first the fan goes 79dB then rattles and eventually dies... - you are by yourself. The tech support team is evading, avoiding, promising but does absolutely jacksh.t! Less than a month old Ser5 Ryzen 7 machine is a doorstop...
I got the ser4 Ryzen 7 4700U on prime day for $337...hard to pass up at that price. So far so good...i was contemplating a steam deck but there's a wait time for that and i didn't plan to use it as a handheld anyway...i haven't tried any emulation on it but that's not a priority. I wanted something that's better than my raspberry pi4 which i was using as my main PC and it definitely is.
Steam Decks are cool but I think you made the right move. Plus you can upgrade the ram. This device is also lightweight and portable. I’m looking at both and at this point I am leaning toward this. I see it lasting longer also.
Я себе купил SER6 AMD Ryzen 5 6600H за $500. Вот этот аппарат реально мощный! Всем советую!
Great video, these minis are so tempting.
Would this cope with Xbox 360 ok? Desperate to play that xbla goldeneye update.
I know it's a very niche request, but I would love to see reviewers test these boxen wit VCV Rack 2 (the free Eurorack synth simulator). I want to order this machine to run this program (I have an external audio card by M-Audio so I wouldn't be relying on the onboard). The software is demanding, but if it ran reasonably in one of these boxes I would drop the cash in an heartbeat.
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They sell for $450 Canadian now on Amazon Canada.. (That's $330 US)
@John Smith I got this 5600H SER5, bit dissapointed to find that Beelink is no longer providing the metal case for the 5600H anymore its the same plastic case as in the 5560U, feeling kind of cheated by Beelink, they send the better units to reviewers and once it gets enough attention change the component silently, not good business practice.
10 months later Amazon has this for $150 less with rhe R7. Can't wait to get mine and get some solid N64, PS2 and GC emulation going on!
try some switch games,you will be suprised,and you will be dissapointed with ps3 games, we need 8 cores/16 threads instead
@@micklepapadakis1757 PS3 seems to be working fine. Xbox360 crashes though.
Hmmm... a steal, you say? Now, if only anyone here in Europe could get this for anything even getting somewhere near that price - my best here for the same setup (16G+500SSD) would be 649 EUR, minus 50 EUR Amazon rebate, equals 599 EUR... yeah, no, not really a steal to me *sigh* 😞...
exactly! actually it goes for 659EUR without any rebate on .de 😞Same situation here too, every time i see these nice mini pc performing so well for those prices, then i check back here in EU and boom..
@@Andrea-dc4iz You are actually slowly realizing why EU is not US. You will hear US citizen have on average 3 times EU net salaries, that their product is about 3 quarter of the price of us.
You'll also hear the classical lie that healthcare is expensive. Well, much cheaper than in countries where it's "free".
The thing is that if an USA citizen pay an health insurance, then it's more affordable than here. I pay around 144€ per year, which would translate to roughly 576$ and that's without accounting for the exchange rate, just the buying power.
American also have a tendency to buy in bulk, it's why they have the laughably big jug of milk and juice. So, it drives cost of living even more.
And yes, we can see rent going from 1000$ to 3000$ a month... well, I pay 1000€ a month and not alone. So, even rent is effectively cheaper.
In fact, it's the same effect as when we hear that 86 Fahrenheit is hot (30 Celsius).
EU is heavily taxed. An employer pay at least twice the salary, the employee pays between 30% and 50% of it's salary back to the state. There are taxes on products we buy too.
It can drive the effective tax ((1-final net)/(original gross)) up to 80% to 90%.
Belgium is one of the worst countries in that regard.
Also, we still have to pay for health insurance, it's even mandatory and a bit more expensive than in the US by buying power.
In Belgium. we had the issue that some people worked to USA, but didn't save for retirement. They came back and the country couldn't really pay them as you usually receive a percentage of what you forcibly saved through various taxes and retirement participation. So, they ended up on social warfare. One may think it made a dent to the state finances: it didn't! It was just news worthy.
There is so much wasted money that a bit of more waste was just drowned. It's as bad as it can get. There were even TV Shows based on wasted money and they all disappeared ^^
And before the elections, ministers validate a lot of construction work, to show they are doing something. Often wasting money to undo something they did few years ago, There are area that are switching between two configurations as election happen ^^
Still, roads sucks for the most part. Even on side walk, you pray for your ankles.
@@Andrea-dc4iz Yeah, 659 is the second best offer on .de, at the moment - yesterday there was a 40 EUR rebate on that one, the 649 -50 is still on (but maybe you have to have Prime to get that...). Cool little machine, yes, but not for that kinda money - plus, the cooling system seems a bit close to the edge for this one, for my taste...
Welcome to the "Look what I got here for a great price..." - "Yeah, no, not here, for that price..." club 😞...
Plus, half of those things you can't get at all, without a ton of crowdfunding shenanigans before - call me old-fashioned, if you want, but I like to _buy_ stuff, instead of sinking my money now, and then waiting six, nine, twelve months to _maybe_ get something, that by then has changed 'somewhat' from what they announced 😉...
Just as an FYI, the price on Amazon as of Sept 6, 2022 is $599, not $450.
And that's just 7 CUs of VEGA, imagine 12 CUs of RNDA 2 like the 6800u at 28W - if there is more power the 6000 series H chips ofc.
APUs are getting very viable for low end gaming, can't wait to see Zen 4 APUs with RDNA 3. Should power through almost everything at 1080p in a mini PC form factor.
I am really temped to buy one of these and turn it into a steamdeck console. I have my PC set up, I have my Steamdeck for handheld and I can't help but think that my TV needs something to run steam games, so I buy a game once and can play it in 3 places. Sounds perfect ngl...
This is 9/10 performance given the specs.
It is $420 now after $40 coupon, this is a steal
Bought mine yesterday and it was going for $398
This feels like it's the one I'd want. PS2 emulation pretty much tops out where I'd want to go, and I've still a PS3 in the loft and 4 under the TV.
So it's the integrated Radeon Vega 7 that's impressive.
The CPU would play the same if it was cheaper a Ryzen 3 with 4 core and 8 threads instead.
As always great reviews. I am curious if it is possible to reuse the motherboards of this mini pc and move them to an mini atx case , with for example an GPU. Any thoughts?
Súper vídeo!! Podría hacer un vídeo con el Mini pc hystou f9. Tiene una gráfica integrada que en juegos puede dar mucho rendimiento y nadie lo explica cómo tu Russ. Gracias
I know it's dumb, but you should test Paper Mario The Thousand Year door on devices like this. But, specifically, you should test at the very beginning when the ship turns around. Bounding Box on that game is super resource intensive. Even on my GTX 1070 it slowed down when that ship turned around when I had it at 1080p.
This may be stupid but when I click on the link, the options are not for the chip R5 5600H. Instead they are R5 5500U or R7 5800H. Both have good coupons and are cheaper than when this was reviewed. Is there one I should get? I want to play up through PS3 with some Wii U and switch games as well.
What is your favorite retro emulator for ps1 and under systems to run in Windows? Love ❤️ your channel.
I’d like to see then drop one of the HDMI ports for a Display Port connection, and maybe a 2.5 LAN. Maybe in the next generation?
It's really strange that Batocera is a no-go on this one🤔
Maybe Beelink SER5 revision is a solution or already in the works?
Indeed, Batocera is designed for x86 architecture so most if not all intel or AMD based PCs should work.
Probably need to set some booting preference in the BIOS for linux to properly boot up.
Its that keyboard again, what keyboard is that? I've seen so many retro channels with it.
any chance of bato working yet since the vid? :) OR, can you do a follow-up vid running RetroBat?
I can't believe this review is this long and doesn't even have a teardown, just a cover off and back on.
Great video as always, but the choice of the Linux distribution is the worst. Of course you have bad performance because Holo OS is using old drivers and an old kernel. In the future, you should switch to something like PopOS, Manjaro or even Nobara OS.
Too bad about thermal throttling this means that the old SER4 is still very good in comparison simply because it can change and go up to 50W TDP without thermal throttling.
From where I live (outside US) I can find one Chinese seller who offered $470 for SER4 and SER5 for $490 considering I have no need for the latest model as my use are mostly old PC gaming and web browsing.
PS3/360 era games no newer than early 2013 the PC version of those era games I'll be mostly playing on these MINI PCs.
there is a new model with fan integrated into the SSD mount, as well as a rubber pull tab for removing the back plate
This thing is a lot better than my laptop lol, and my laptop is supposed to be a little premium, but it’s not gaming based
FSR will work the same no matter what hardware you run it on, it's not like Nvidia DLSS :P
10:35 how the hell is a literal lego game at 1080p low settings "so well optimized"
I was planning on buying the SER5 for my personal Christmas present and run Batocera on it. Amazon has for about $250 (16g ram, and 500g hard drive).
But I just heard you say Batocera doesn’t work on it 😢😮
Do you know if the new version of Batocera 38 might now work?
Thanks for all you do!!!!
I'm looking for a bit of advice. I recently got the GT king pro for my emulation needs as running the Xbox series X for my usual lengthy gaming sessions has become rather expensive these days. However I'm looking to move my emulation up a notch. I've been looking at the ser5 pro 5600h and the see 4700u. The ser5 pro would be the top end of my budget at £369 for the 16gb one, that's direct from beelink. The ser 4700u is more budget friendly at £299 for the 16gb one. My main question is can both these boxes run Teknoparrot games and cemu/3DS easily? I would also be looking for easily playing supermodel 3, model2 as well as Dreamcast and Saturn games? Although the latter two I plan on modding both my Dreamcast and Saturn in the near future with ode once prices start to drop. Also in terms of power consumption how would this sit next to the GT king pro? I do have a capable pc but again not power consumption friendly. Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated 🙂
Without thunderbolt 3/USB4, this is a non-starter for me. Next year though, with 6000-series chips, I’m soooooo jumping in.
There are other higher end miniPCs that had thunderbolt, you should check them out.
Batocera 32 works on my mini pc. I got that batocera HDD from amazon. I haven't try the batocera flash drive I setup.
Awesome video!! Do you have a video of where you get your emulators and games?
Games for the emulators?
@@blue-cloud-studios both I guess? Idk, I'm still very new to the world of emulators
@@chavezyunni Oh ok well don't expect any TH-camrs to help you find games it's illegal to say where to get the games
@@chavezyunni but they will tell you where some good emulators are
@@blue-cloud-studios ooooohh I didn't know..thanks man!
Is it better to buy the 5560U instead of the 5600H? performance difference is very less, more importantly Beelink is running the 5600H at lower TDP of 35W instead of rated TDP of 45W so any small performance advantage will be negated.
On PassMark the two score close , 1700 for the H and 1500 for the U
I like the 15w MAX TGP of the U.
Runs cooler more life maybe.
Both have the same 4.2 GHZ turbo clock speed.
@@Crashed131963 Agreed, I should have got the 5560U would have saved a bit too.
Hi Russ, can you do a review of the SER5 MAX revision with teardown?
I'm waiting around on the RDNA2 mini PC's. Just a big jump in performance per watt.
To anyone buying these beelink mini pc's, beware of some serious thermal constraints. This is not said in all the videos i see online.
my one worry is AMD might possibly drop driver support for Vega IGPs sooner rather than later. Might be safer to wait for an RDNA-equipped version
@n n yeah, the fact they dropped support for perfectly good GCN cards pre-Polaris is pretty sad though. Cards like the R9 290 and 390 are still decent for 1080p
Thanks for the nice video
Should I buy this for my gaming setup? Only gonna play low end games
If my gaming PC ever goes down this mini pcs seem like a good replacement for work stuff.
Your spreadsheet is so wrong. I can't even get this machine to play GameCube. Let alone Switch which you say runs great. You need to elaborate or setup.
will you do Beelink GTR5 review in the future?
So this is on par with steamdeck?
Nevermind the form factor.
Oh no, what happened to the video details for the mini pc videos? I was hoping to look at the spreadsheet.
What PC would would you recommend to play sports games like 2K and Madden on a PS3 emulator?
PS3 slims go for less than $100 on marketplace. a mini PC being able to emulate PS3 would probably cost you around $500.
For these kind of devices you should take a look at CSGO, Valorant and Siege
Firstly, $450 isn't really a steal. It looks like a good system though, for those who can afford it.
@n n A 5600G itx build wouldn't thermal throttle at 27w. You'd get way more performance out of it.
Yeah. There's a 11400 1650 MSI laptop for $550 on amazon atm. It'll run circles around an APU.
@n n Huh?
Kind of a dumb question, I see the system has a grill mesh on top. Is this mesh for the purpose of intake, or exhaust?