I’ve never really worked in houses, my work being industrial and commercial. My few ventures into the domestic sector always seemed to be 80% aggro. Your work looks spot on though, seems like everything is going well for you!
That MacAllister bench is absolutely amazing when you're installing galv trunking and tray, made my life so much easier! Cutting trunking or 2 inch strut with a hack saw is a no go though, got a lovely circular saw for that!
Good vid, cheers dude, these ones i like (as much as your socks), because you go through your planning process on cable end point locations and the bits between point A & B. cheers dude.
Late comment: I used 3 lengths of Univolt 100x35mm wire basket tray to run RF, network, phone and some other LV cables the length of the loft here a few years back. First time I'd used anything like it and being basket construction cutting and bending was a doddle. Pity the fixings etc. are expensive compared to the basket.
If you need to get a cable through a buried Flexi conduit use your dust vac or a blower to pull a piece of string and something small through like a washer. Them tie cable to string and pull
Can tell Nick Bundy didn't put that copex in it was straighter than his :D love the socks, shows you take pride in your work going that extra step keep up the good work. Can't wait till I've qualified so you can slate my use of copex :D
Question: in domestic houses, is it allowed to fix ceiling mounted steel cable trays? Does the cable need to be low smoke? The customer wants an industrial look, they have a converted warehouse apartment
Some in house wiring is stranded for homes there? I am new to the channel I came over from one of Clives videos. I do not think I have seen stranded wire used for house wiring. I am here in the US here and I think you maybe over in the UK? Have run wiring and wired up sockets. The running of the wiring was done with direction of the contractor my folks hired and I put in the socket myself and alone. Bad story on hooking the socket up is I got the full on 120V as I could have sworn I flipped the breaker so that I could wire up the socket and so got ready to hook it up and for some reason I touched both live and neutral and felt the current went from one hand to the other. Was not a very good feeling. I did get the right breaker flipped and got it wired and now I always do a quick test any more when I am working on wires now as I learned a lesson that day. But hey the socket works great and is power my pinball machines and much more. :) I just recently replaced the timer for the fan in the main bath and I got out my multimeter when I flipped the breaker and then tested it to see if I get any voltage on the meter and I did not so got the new fan timer in and no blowing myself up. xD
Probably going to get my head shot off here... but I don't get the preference these days for using radials rather than rings. In the old days we used radials a lot on a 15A fuse but as I recall you were limited to 2 sockets on a 7/029 cable. Rings were a Godsend! But as I say it was a long time ago.....4 mm 2 is heavy and difficult to terminate in anything but a deep box? Comments (keep 'em clean) appreciated.
Odd that the cap appeared just at that point, must have been sunny in there! 😉 Missing an ear plug though, if only there was someone who'd lend you one.....
i thought the CPC has to be at least half the CSA of the live so 4mm would be 2.5? I've got one of those tables but never knew you could use the clamps like that. They're so good them tables. Also, get a metal cutting circular saw for tray.
Nice to see some tray!!! If Nick takes the Flexi off ya hands, you can buy a hand held band saw and cable tongue :). With tray can use galv couplers to stand off. Or if not many cables vertical, flip tray and use lips for stand off :)
@@Cjrelectrical I've never used 4mm. So I was just wondering was it easy to wire with into socket? The 2x lives & 2x neutrals etc. I imagine it would be quite a tight fit. I was just wondering because think it is a good idea doing that for kitchens.
@@edglue6138 MK says you can get 2x4mm or one 6mm in a socket. It's the dressing in the back that's the issue never use a 25mm back box with flat plate usb 😅
Ed Glue most USB sockets recommend a 35mm back box but the terminals should handle 4mm fine, if you want a 32amp ring in 101 installation method you need a 4mm ring, sockets handle it adequately.
why why why would anyone do a 4mm radial ?? blows my mind, you've highlighted the problems in the video... if I came to a job and needed to spur of a 4mm radial I'd be fuming haha
Forget the copex.... was that hacksaw blade in the right way 🤣.Great video as usual. One question why use the 4mm cable on the radial circuit instead of the usual 2.5?
I wonder if this means we will start seeing photos of you and not Dan on Nick Bundy’s channel from now on 😂. Good detailed video. Speaking of Dan, not seen much of him for a while, hope he’s ok.
Been watching videos for months not a sparky but love the videos really interesting, what's with the socks what have I missed 😅 and what make is that bench?
@@NBundyElectrical come on nick you like chris i like your videos really good video btw i do enjoy them your apprentice is gold adam btw i think hes awesome wish i had someone like him hes a proper spark in the making btw 4mm has its place lol
i think your on the same page as me fire support of cable during escape and fire fighting activities , the last bit fire fighters will soak the ceiling to cool the fire down it may collapse leaving them tangled in wires. the room could be filled of smoke, so they can not see i indeed fire clip the cable but access is required unfort and see why chris went with this method
@@supersparks9466 521.10.202 requires cables to be adequately support against their premature collapse in the event of fire note 1 fire fighting activity to be considered each to there own tho like any version of bs7671 its open to debate and personal interpretation another thing i was debating is the cables fished thro with pipes in the area 522.2 what type of pipes maybe another call for clipping the cables making sure they are placed from source of heat
No contest where you actually need a radial. Wiring a ring is a faff and a half unless your accessories form something approaching an actual circle - start at one end of the house, go round and come back the other side. Easier to dress cables and wire terminals in 2.5
@@Cjrelectrical But here in Finland we have :) Im also electrician and one other thing bothers me that you and few other youtube electricians dont wear any gloves or eye protection? I cannot work without gloves and one more thing i have to say that im glad that we dont do things here like you do in England
@@Cjrelectrical Im not sure if it's "perfect" and im not saying "you" in person what i meant how things are done there in general. What i've seen you do great job. Everything seems to be over protcted from peoples i guess? But i've taken while ago some pictures from my work. I can upload them to Imgur and do album there
5:13 I would have thought (I am not even remotely an electrician :) ) that would require some sort of conduit or trunking to prevent the possibility of heat transfer to the insulation and a potential fire hazard?
Love the banter, you do know that he's named his small 3 thread steps Chris 😁
That's hilarious
I’ve never really worked in houses, my work being industrial and commercial. My few ventures into the domestic sector always seemed to be 80% aggro. Your work looks spot on though, seems like everything is going well for you!
My favorite jobs as being a sparks for 50 years was metal tray work , SWA and metal trucking the rest I could take or leave !
That MacAllister bench is absolutely amazing when you're installing galv trunking and tray, made my life so much easier! Cutting trunking or 2 inch strut with a hack saw is a no go though, got a lovely circular saw for that!
Chris the savage, calling out flexi fails
Nick is taking some ribbing about that flexible conduit.
ANTHONY BRAGG it did not look the best, think nick even realised it himself
Fantastic 👍🦾
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Good sport
Your fishing skills are always impressive, I watched you get through so many tricky situations it’s amazing, you are the best fisherman ever.
Yes Chris!! Primarni socks, best socks ever, got a few pairs myself 👍😉
Good vid, cheers dude, these ones i like (as much as your socks), because you go through your planning process on cable end point locations and the bits between point A & B. cheers dude.
Lovin bundy banter, some people though getting high and mighty, relax people
Haven’t seen anyone cut strut with a hacksaw for 20 years 😂
Very nice neat workmanship
Loving all the (mostly) friendly rivalries. Top quality video. MK logic plus can take three 4mm cables btw.
14:43 excellent turn, stuck the landing, could have extended the arm abit more and feet together 7.5 / 10.
Try putting a roll of cable or two on the work end of the bench, to counteract the overhanging weight,it will also help steady the bench
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 love the Bundy banter !! Another great video chris keep them coming mate
I don’t know what’s funnier, nicks copex or your ‘I’m not going to the van for a grinder’ and you can see after the first cut you’re regretting it
We have gone with cable tray in our bungalow, even up in the loft space. So much easier to work with!
Basket is even easier, especially if you’re using T&E
Late comment: I used 3 lengths of Univolt 100x35mm wire basket tray to run RF, network, phone and some other LV cables the length of the loft here a few years back. First time I'd used anything like it and being basket construction cutting and bending was a doddle. Pity the fixings etc. are expensive compared to the basket.
If you need to get a cable through a buried Flexi conduit use your dust vac or a blower to pull a piece of string and something small through like a washer. Them tie cable to string and pull
Can tell Nick Bundy didn't put that copex in it was straighter than his :D love the socks, shows you take pride in your work going that extra step keep up the good work. Can't wait till I've qualified so you can slate my use of copex :D
The savage comments about flexi haha
Question: in domestic houses, is it allowed to fix ceiling mounted steel cable trays? Does the cable need to be low smoke? The customer wants an industrial look, they have a converted warehouse apartment
I think MK double sockets accept 3 x 4mm under their spec
are more people putting radials in now as opposed to rings? cheers
thanks for the quality videos, bundy got some touch about the flexi, haha, all good banter
Some in house wiring is stranded for homes there?
I am new to the channel I came over from one of Clives videos.
I do not think I have seen stranded wire used for house wiring.
I am here in the US here and I think you maybe over in the UK?
Have run wiring and wired up sockets.
The running of the wiring was done with direction of the contractor my folks hired and I put in the socket myself and alone.
Bad story on hooking the socket up is I got the full on 120V as I could have sworn I flipped the breaker so that I could wire up the socket and so got ready to hook it up and for some reason I touched both live and neutral and felt the current went from one hand to the other.
Was not a very good feeling.
I did get the right breaker flipped and got it wired and now I always do a quick test any more when I am working on wires now as I learned a lesson that day.
But hey the socket works great and is power my pinball machines and much more. :)
I just recently replaced the timer for the fan in the main bath and I got out my multimeter when I flipped the breaker and then tested it to see if I get any voltage on the meter and I did not so got the new fan timer in and no blowing myself up. xD
Great video. Loving the copex banter re. NB 😁
Nice & clean job as usual.. Good luck man
Probably going to get my head shot off here... but I don't get the preference these days for using radials rather than rings. In the old days we used radials a lot on a 15A fuse but as I recall you were limited to 2 sockets on a 7/029 cable. Rings were a Godsend! But as I say it was a long time ago.....4 mm 2 is heavy and difficult to terminate in anything but a deep box? Comments (keep 'em clean) appreciated.
Do you know if your downlight spring clips will fit if the ceiling is triple boarded?
They definitely won’t fit so I will get the builder to cut out some big squares of the already double boarded ceiling.
@@Cjrelectrical good to be ahead of the game!
Chris, MK Logic Plus accept 3 x 4milli conductors.
Cables run behind box is a bit gash. Better to run them 150 from the corner.
Thank you
Running the cables behind the box is better than going through like some do.
Odd that the cap appeared just at that point, must have been sunny in there! 😉
Missing an ear plug though, if only there was someone who'd lend you one.....
thanks for your civic air con relay fault, done what you said worked fine have car 3 years first time air con worked THANK YOU,do more civic vids
brilliant video mate, and much better socks than that other geezer, what was his name? Mick Bunny? Hahahah (love u Nick, and Adam!)
awesome doggo 4:00
What editing software do you use on your vids?
Cutting tray and uni with a hacksaw get the grinder oot 🤣
yea cordless grinder is a great tool for steel trunking, tray, basket, even pvc
I was going to say, he must be getting paid by the hour for this job lol
i thought the CPC has to be at least half the CSA of the live so 4mm would be 2.5? I've got one of those tables but never knew you could use the clamps like that. They're so good them tables. Also, get a metal cutting circular saw for tray.
Nice to see some tray!!! If Nick takes the Flexi off ya hands, you can buy a hand held band saw and cable tongue :). With tray can use galv couplers to stand off. Or if not many cables vertical, flip tray and use lips for stand off :)
How is it putting 2x4mm into socket?
Huh
@@Cjrelectrical I've never used 4mm. So I was just wondering was it easy to wire with into socket?
The 2x lives & 2x neutrals etc.
I imagine it would be quite a tight fit.
I was just wondering because think it is a good idea doing that for kitchens.
@@edglue6138 MK says you can get 2x4mm or one 6mm in a socket. It's the dressing in the back that's the issue never use a 25mm back box with flat plate usb 😅
@@tresslerj1985 I did that to existing socket a while ago. When USB sockets first came out.
It was challenging haha
Ed Glue most USB sockets recommend a 35mm back box but the terminals should handle 4mm fine, if you want a 32amp ring in 101 installation method you need a 4mm ring, sockets handle it adequately.
Do you run the lighting circuit from the switch or do you run a three core to the switch for smart switches? Just curious what everyone else is doing.
Yeah a always drop a feed at the switch especially with spot lights
That was entertaining!
If you don't need the facilities of Unistrut/zebedees etc, why not just use simple spacers (or lockrings) for the tray?
Instead of using cable tray why not use all round band? More profit for you and less cost to your client.
Happy new year
why why why would anyone do a 4mm radial ?? blows my mind, you've highlighted the problems in the video... if I came to a job and needed to spur of a 4mm radial I'd be fuming haha
Need to keep it a true radial😂
If its a difficult return leg to the board then understandable
Top socks as always. Can you just shout out N Bundy next time about the amount of flexi he uses, I think you forgot 🤣
@@gadgetman36 🤣
@@gadgetman36 East tiger !!!
It's all fun and games until Andy squeezes under the boards
I would check the reference method you are using before sticking a 4mm radial on a 32a. Surprising how much it becomes de-rated 👍
It’s going on a 25amp mate 👌🏻
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Can you do a kopex master class?
What work table is that with the vices?
It’s a Ketter work table. I have one and highly recommend it
Forget the copex.... was that hacksaw blade in the right way 🤣.Great video as usual. One question why use the 4mm cable on the radial circuit instead of the usual 2.5?
25amp rcbo
@@Cjrelectrical good call as with grouping of cables may have decreased the cable capacity i think 2.5mm in free air is 27A
Not a 32 amp radial?
Should maybe flip the tray over and use some 2 inch screws, no need for unistrut then.
i hope your going to 1st fix IR and continuity test your cables that's got plasterers screw damage written all over it
just here for the copex banter
same
I wonder if this means we will start seeing photos of you and not Dan on Nick Bundy’s channel from now on 😂. Good detailed video. Speaking of Dan, not seen much of him for a while, hope he’s ok.
No I wasn’t invited to the hot tub party.
@@Cjrelectrical next time
Been watching videos for months not a sparky but love the videos really interesting, what's with the socks what have I missed 😅 and what make is that bench?
He makes 5k a week, I need to learn this trade.
I find Rexel a lot cheaper than most electrical wholesalers
👍👍👍👍👍
Cable tray in a house OTT. Do u make money ???
Throwing shade at nick bundy
6:32 where did you learn that trick Chris, says the woman.
yay
Autobots vs the Flexicons. I see a new movie franchise here 😂😂 What's that workbench btw please Chris?
All that copex would only last him a week
xer033 Kopex
Copex king!
You need to learn how to spell it’s Kopex idiot 😂🤣😂🤣
Chris wats the best copex to get. I bought from screwfix wasnt very good
Flexicon is a good brand solid glands
Nice one thanks
4mm radial ??? hello 1982.
“Too”
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CJR ELECTRICAL
Spelling 👮♀️ 🚨 here mate
You made cutting that tray look very difficult, you sure that blade had teeth in it.....
Yeah was a terrible blade with 18teeth per inch 🤣
"thats good I can count in fours, innit" are you sure you're a plumber?
Job creation
Do you honesty make a living😎
and why use tray in boxing in ?? bangers and ties would suffice surely ? Love your videos Chris but you do some strange ideas haha
It’s for youtube mate
@@Cjrelectrical fair do's :)
who else thinks a vid on a bundy and cjr joint job would be good has to happen
hmmmm
@@NBundyElectrical come on nick you like chris i like your videos really good video btw i do enjoy them your apprentice is gold adam btw i think hes awesome wish i had someone like him hes a proper spark in the making btw 4mm has its place lol
Good job ya not in Aus mate working if your are hot in the UK summer...
🤟
That’s plenty on that I will just pull a bit more
Do you have the customer paying for your time to make your vids or do you work till 6 to make up the time you spend making them??
If the client wants me to film I charge them extra yes
Genuine question, not being funny. How do you get around fishing through the lightning cable in ceiling with no mechanical fixings?
i think your on the same page as me fire support of cable during escape and fire fighting activities , the last bit fire fighters will soak the ceiling to cool the fire down it may collapse leaving them tangled in wires. the room could be filled of smoke, so they can not see i indeed fire clip the cable but access is required unfort and see why chris went with this method
You just don’t fix them, no regs book is gonna suggest you have to remove the ceiling just to clip them.
Could screw Patten band via the fish hole would be better that nothing...
It's in the fabric of the building. Only surface wiring systems are covered under premature collapse 👍
@@supersparks9466 521.10.202 requires cables to be adequately support against their premature collapse in the event of fire note 1 fire fighting activity to be considered each to there own tho like any version of bs7671 its open to debate and personal interpretation
another thing i was debating is the cables fished thro with pipes in the area 522.2 what type of pipes maybe another call for clipping the cables making sure they are placed from source of heat
I bet your apprentice doesn't answer back🤣
Just keeps barking at me 🤷🏻♂️
Does he scoff Maccys D's & cookies though?
Why not use LSHF cable?
Why use it?
2.5mm ring vs 4mm radial? Fight!!!!......
No contest where you actually need a radial. Wiring a ring is a faff and a half unless your accessories form something approaching an actual circle - start at one end of the house, go round and come back the other side. Easier to dress cables and wire terminals in 2.5
Poor Nick 😆😆😆
Na copex would have looked better 🤣🤣
i agree
@@NBundyElectrical thought you might! 😜🤩
Why not simply use a NEST?
And Philips HUE
It’s having hive system I’ve hard wired the thermostat positions to future proof it.
@@Cjrelectrical
I simply suggested NEST as the thermostat and control box communicate over WiFi so less wiring.
Hive is the same 👍
Can I ask? What is the story behind the socks? You keep highlighting them but I think i have missed why!
You always say about not using cheap materials, why not use prysmian cable?
Copex. Ummmm wonder who thats aimed at 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“The owner had suspected corona virus but turned out they were fine” corona virus summed up in a nutshell lol
#BundyCopex :D
Nick, just go back and change the copex, be TH-cam’s biggest story of 2020.
10000 likes and ill do it
Rexel does not accept cash they LOST ME!
What breed is andy
That "flat" cable looks kinda dumb. Anoying to work with propably
Yeah not sure why we don’t just have round cable.
@@Cjrelectrical But here in Finland we have :) Im also electrician and one other thing bothers me that you and few other youtube electricians dont wear any gloves or eye protection? I cannot work without gloves and one more thing i have to say that im glad that we dont do things here like you do in England
Maybe one day you could upload a video of your electrical system because I’ve never sion it?
Ok
I’d love to see your electrical system ? Maybe one day you could upload a perfect install?
@@Cjrelectrical Im not sure if it's "perfect" and im not saying "you" in person what i meant how things are done there in general. What i've seen you do great job. Everything seems to be over protcted from peoples i guess? But i've taken while ago some pictures from my work. I can upload them to Imgur and do album there
Nothing wrong with copex
I know mate just banter with @nickbundy
SAVAGE
AL E DEEZ
5:13 I would have thought (I am not even remotely an electrician :) ) that would require some sort of conduit or trunking to prevent the possibility of heat transfer to the insulation and a potential fire hazard?