I have to wonder: if you decreased or deactivated the pain state of the Spider Mastermind, would that alone turn things around? 4:25 HA! I’ve been wondering what would happen if the last victim got off a shot that finished the other side too.
deactivating it completely would make it pretty sick but even then the spread on her chain/shotgun is just too high. You can see she can barely kill the 4 revenants when they are at a distance and their constant stream of rockets keeps pushing her away making her dps go down even more. She would still get smoked by 6+ revenants on nightmare at that distance.
Considering you can change the weapons for the AI controlled Marines, can you do the same with the monsters? I would love to see the Spider Mastermind have the same fire rate but with a shotgun instead of a chaingun.
Technically, the mastermind is using the same attack as the zombie shotgunners (the exact code even), just at full auto. The zombie and the mastermind fire 3 pellets per shot (as opposed to the player's shotgun firing 7 pellets).
@@MrEvilbyte that's probably the origin of monsters using the shotgun sound instead of the pistol sound for automatic bullet weapons. The SS and Chaingunner came in Doom 2, and they probably just kept the shotgun sound effect (despite those enemies shooting single bullets, not 3 like the SMM).
@@MrEvilbyte Color me surprised, I always thought they just used the shotgun sound to make it sound more intimidating. However, I'd still like to see how much more dangerous the SM could be if it fired the same amount of pellets as the player's shotgun or even more.
I always thought that one shot from the SMM equals to the same damage that a shotgun blast can do. there are revenants who got hit more than six times and still didn't die. that keeps getting more and more embarrassing for the SMM
The other day I did an experiment for the science.. made a huge open sector and booted zdoom, then used the freeze command and summoned one SMM and 10 friend revenants with some distance in between similar to this video's scenario (bit more distance actually, though irrelevant for the experiment). Each time I finnished placing the revenants I unfroze all and shot somewhere else to wake up the SMM as well. inconsistent - 5 of them the SMM lost, leaving 2 to 4 revenants left. In these cases the pain chance was a bit unlucky for the SMM, which allowed more revenants to surround it more easily and beat it after a while. It still didn't even remotely struggle as much as in this video... then again my arena was immensely open, the initial distance was higher, but seeing as there was never a moment the revs cornered the SMM in this video I think my differences aren't really all too relevant. - 4 of them were wins while leaving the SMM with less than 1000 health left, some closer to death. I noticed it had a better chance of winning the less it pain chanced, and the more it sustained fire while the revenants got closer and bunched up in line. - The odd win had the SMM never flinching and actually killing all the revenants before they got to melee range, so its final health had to be above 2000 no doubt. This one surprised me the most to be honest. I was anticipating this video because I wanted to see how much different it would turn out from my own experiment. Vastly, vastly different, in spite of not playing the exact same scenarios, but still shockingly different. The fact it didn't kill more than 3 in the 1vs8 is so weird.
Does anyone know how to mod in a Mastermind with much less chance to enter a pain state and a faster firing weapon? I want to see the modded Mastermind in a series on this channel. X3
On the larger nightmare battles the spiders automatically lose the moment their flanks die, as they can't hit the distance revenants. The spiders would probably lose 1v1 against a revenant on nightmare at enough range.
Infight and monster's threat to the player are two completely and unrelated different things, and even the second can vary a lot depending on the circumstances... can't compare one with another
4:25 DRAW!!! 🤣🤣🤣
The mastermind continues its streak of being humiliated.
nah Trudeau far exceeds her xD
A large group of Revenants looks like a football team, with their matching pants and shoulder pads.😂
😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@xCupressocyparis 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
@@yousefslimani99 What if instead of a chain gun the Mastermind shot out rapid fire homing BFG shots instead? That would be awesome!!!
The sound of those Revenant punches... super satisfying. 💀👊💥
Wuh-PSH
Well, at least the Spider Mastermind killed one Revenant
That draw was really cool 😅
Poor Spider Mastermind, is the pet of Doom monsters LOL
I really love the punch sound of a Revenant in the morning
Hate these guy to the death!
And on today's episode of "The Spider Mastermind Gets Humiliated By...."
It's amazing that I ever used to be scared of the mastermind.
Shes more scary vs players then in fighting. a few well placed masterminds is a pain to deal with. As its basically a turret.
Because you dont play as 10 revenants.
A lone SM is deadly vs one target, incompetent against multiple.
It breaks down when faced with multiple targets.
@@bloodyfishheads3316 > a lone mastermind is good against one target
*laughs in that one solo chaingunner who ALMOST got her on UV*
Who else here laughs like Jameson from Spiderman BEFORE they watch the Spider Mastermind vs videos?
Crazy you said that because I was literally JUST watching a video about Jameson a couple minutes ago and then I saw your comment lol
i was just like "ahh yes. let us see how badly the poor mastermind shall get humiliated this time."
The Mastermind. The Meme. The Legend.
the trash xD
Let's see how poor the Spider Mastermind is this time.
I came to see the SM getting humiliated. I was not disappointed
A sitting duck with a machine gun.. 😂
Mastermind was thoroughly spooked. Good for her in getting some wins, even a draw.
I have to wonder: if you decreased or deactivated the pain state of the Spider Mastermind, would that alone turn things around?
4:25 HA! I’ve been wondering what would happen if the last victim got off a shot that finished the other side too.
deactivating it completely would make it pretty sick but even then the spread on her chain/shotgun is just too high. You can see she can barely kill the 4 revenants when they are at a distance and their constant stream of rockets keeps pushing her away making her dps go down even more. She would still get smoked by 6+ revenants on nightmare at that distance.
Mastermind was BONED the moment he took on revenants.
The first draw I've seen!
The Spider Mastermind. The laughingstock of the Doom franchise.
Will the Spider Mastermind EVER win a series?!
Only if it’s one target, not multiple.
10 Spider Masterminds vs a single lost soul. Result; Draw
Wow never expected to see a draw!
Sunday is the day to see Spider Mastermind getting humiliated.
Another sunday, another Spiderdemon abuse session.
Mastermind in UV mode vs Revenants: Becomes a punching bag
Mastermind in Nightmare mode vs Revenants: Gets drown in rocks
It's always fun watching the mastermind get bullied xD
Mama literally getting punched out here.
She likes being owned ;)
Fisted, dare I say.
She got boned pretty hard.
Another humiliation for the poor spider.
One giant brain loses to a small gang of bony bois with barely any brain. Just like real life.
The Spider-Brain has no armor around his big mooshy brain... and it shows! 😂🤣😂
"Surely," I thought, "this might be a matchup the Spider Mastermind can actually win?" Nope, not even close.
4:24 We got a draw!
It's unlikely that a SMM in gzdoom fairs this bad, these are probably lone cases out of multiple attempts just to showcase extremely weird outcomes
Stop he's already dead!
*she's
Spider mastermind has a big brain, though he's not always a good strategist😁😁😁
When you look at the huge wave of 50 revenant rockets heading in the Spider Masterminds directions. That looks painful.
She got one!!! XD
At this rate you could do Spider Mastermind versus Safer Sephiroth and I'm not sure either outcome would be surprising or disappointing.
4:22 the first ever draw!
7:45 MONSTER KILL!!! 😂
Why were so many Revenant missiles missing?
And thus the Spooder Mastermind *_continues_* to be the laughing stock of the roster.
Spider Queens vs. Spooky Missile Launchers
Huh. It took a very long time for us to seemingly get our very first draw.
Cacodemons vs Arachnotrons please!
Considering you can change the weapons for the AI controlled Marines, can you do the same with the monsters? I would love to see the Spider Mastermind have the same fire rate but with a shotgun instead of a chaingun.
That's what the Mastermind already uses, a shotgun that fires at the same rate as the chaingun
Technically, the mastermind is using the same attack as the zombie shotgunners (the exact code even), just at full auto. The zombie and the mastermind fire 3 pellets per shot (as opposed to the player's shotgun firing 7 pellets).
@@MrEvilbyte that's probably the origin of monsters using the shotgun sound instead of the pistol sound for automatic bullet weapons. The SS and Chaingunner came in Doom 2, and they probably just kept the shotgun sound effect (despite those enemies shooting single bullets, not 3 like the SMM).
@@MrEvilbyte Color me surprised, I always thought they just used the shotgun sound to make it sound more intimidating. However, I'd still like to see how much more dangerous the SM could be if it fired the same amount of pellets as the player's shotgun or even more.
I've witnessed the Mastermind lose to a single Cacodemon while playing.
I always thought that one shot from the SMM equals to the same damage that a shotgun blast can do. there are revenants who got hit more than six times and still didn't die. that keeps getting more and more embarrassing for the SMM
The damage per shot rolls between 3-45, same as the sergeant's attack
The other day I did an experiment for the science.. made a huge open sector and booted zdoom, then used the freeze command and summoned one SMM and 10 friend revenants with some distance in between similar to this video's scenario (bit more distance actually, though irrelevant for the experiment). Each time I finnished placing the revenants I unfroze all and shot somewhere else to wake up the SMM as well. inconsistent
- 5 of them the SMM lost, leaving 2 to 4 revenants left. In these cases the pain chance was a bit unlucky for the SMM, which allowed more revenants to surround it more easily and beat it after a while. It still didn't even remotely struggle as much as in this video... then again my arena was immensely open, the initial distance was higher, but seeing as there was never a moment the revs cornered the SMM in this video I think my differences aren't really all too relevant.
- 4 of them were wins while leaving the SMM with less than 1000 health left, some closer to death. I noticed it had a better chance of winning the less it pain chanced, and the more it sustained fire while the revenants got closer and bunched up in line.
- The odd win had the SMM never flinching and actually killing all the revenants before they got to melee range, so its final health had to be above 2000 no doubt. This one surprised me the most to be honest.
I was anticipating this video because I wanted to see how much different it would turn out from my own experiment. Vastly, vastly different, in spite of not playing the exact same scenarios, but still shockingly different. The fact it didn't kill more than 3 in the 1vs8 is so weird.
*Hive Mother vs them all, please...*
4:25 several videos later, another draw!
Does anyone know how to mod in a Mastermind with much less chance to enter a pain state and a faster firing weapon? I want to see the modded Mastermind in a series on this channel. X3
Dehacked is what you're after. You can make her immune to pain and give her a 50cal. minigun.
On the larger nightmare battles the spiders automatically lose the moment their flanks die, as they can't hit the distance revenants. The spiders would probably lose 1v1 against a revenant on nightmare at enough range.
What do we expect from a boss monster that almost lost a 1v1 to a chaingunner?
The irony is that theres a level in Doom 2 where the mastermind can beat a cyberdemon lol.
Mastermind need a double gatling fire.
Хороши замес! = )
Mastermind vs explosive barrels
LA MENTE ARÁCNIDA NECESITA MÁS
Maybe if we remove the pain chance of mastermind, she becomes stronger
Geez, melee range on UV and still lost with just one kill? Boy, SMM sure is useless.
Despite the revenants blocking like half of their own projectiles...
At least she did decent on UV
decino approved
Doom - masters of sin 💀😈
Considering that Mastermind is an enemy boss, it absolutely sucks at monster infighting. It has a ridiculously high pain chance.
How can a final boss be so utterly pathetic?
Weakling Spider Mastermind.
Nice Profile picture
I Think
Duke Nukem 3D's Battlelord >>> Spider Mastermind
(Even Different Game ，But I think both are Different Tier)
So to put it plainly, spider mama is the only enemy whos threat actually decreases on Nightmare. What a joke.
Infight and monster's threat to the player are two completely and unrelated different things, and even the second can vary a lot depending on the circumstances... can't compare one with another
I hate the robot spider 😮
LoL
Draw :)
SM can't win for losing.
Truly, u r a joke spidey