Boxing Coach Anson's channel is in the video description and cards. If anyone has any information on this Wing Chun coach, please let me know! Here is Anson's Chinese name: 余鐵良 (余铁良). I'll search on social media to see if I can get in touch with him!
square is actually fine for entering with wing chun, and he doesn't need to have his hand up to protect himself. He actually needs to learn to close, off balance and blitz, instead he is pot-shotting which is what gives rise to the need for boxing basics. Wing chun should force hooks that it prevents with arm control. Real wing chun looks like a dirty boxing and clinch fighting. The reason these wing chun guys don't develop this is its mostly a lost art and also they dont train like fighters
The wing chun dude can't be an instructor,.he has no style , he's sloppy and charging at his opponent carelessly..this guy can't be what they claim him out to b.... Nothing against boxers but I disagree with boxers will win...not a true experience wing chun fighter,.ther not going to go running straight to punches..like this dude did making him look even more stupid really ,..
If you read Bruce Lees book he says boxing is superior and should b mastered first. Then incorporate the other styles. His reasoning was that a punch is the fastest strike and that boxing requires faster reflexes
many martial artists don't know how to box and that's sad. If you want to fight you have to learn boxing, I trained traditional martial arts for years but I only learned to fight when start train boxing.
The strange thing is a lot of people who train martial arts, not all, do not consider boxing and wrestling martial arts. This is crazy, and like you said, leads to a deficit in skills in critical areas. I love training with both and sharing notes and ideas.
Learning Muay Thai or Boxing or both, not only make one a better martial artist obviously, but will make it possible to be effective with frowned upon arts like Wing Chun.
Imo there are no rules in fights especially if you are limiting your opponent against your weakness. That just says please don't kick me, I can't defend that.
Yea sorry no boxer is going to win against a person with good kicks. Wing chun is not only hands this is stupid it proves nothing. Boxing ain't no joke yep only when aren't allowed A boxer of skill vs a martial artist with good kicks..sorry boxer is at a disadvantage period.
Yes, Jerry, your knowledge of Chineese and the ability to find rare stuff other martial arts youtubers can't are exactly the reason we follow your channel
This fight took place in 2010 and caused quite a stir back then. The boxer, Yu Tieliang, is a boxing champ and has represented HK in the Olympics. If memory serves, the WC guy claimed his scientific approach to WC was superior to boxing, and that he'd show the boxer "how to fight the right way." The boxer accepted his challenge, and the rest........is history.
The duration of training, the experience, the caliber of the coach and the caliber of the teacher makes a big difference. You can put the boxer up to Yip man or Sigong Bruce and the abilities, experience and the duration of practice will reveal a lot and we know it wouldn't be fair to the boxer.... So all things have to be considered like biorhythm, timing, agility and mental clarity
Im really impressed how these guys believe they can fight. Even though They have never been in a real fight. I don't understand being in martial arts and not fighting. Ive been to gyms where the owners didn't like sparring because of injuries but its better to get hurt around friends then on the street being attacked. I believe everyone comes to martial arts for the same reasons. They may change after you get skill. But everyone wants to be able to defend themselves. You cannot train to fight and never fight.
Iv'e seen a few highly trained wing tsun practitioners fight opponents of boxing and kung.fu and they had no problem at all. So I think its the practitioner more than the style. I am not familiar with this wing chun practitioner but his style seems relatively weak
i was only able to use any wing chun techniques after years of sparing and experimenting with karate practitioners and then with kickboxers and thai boxers. Reading bruce lee's books really helped with training and application
A lot of people think that what you see in movies is real !! No my friends, there’s a lot of choreography involved in it. In a movie both actors opponents know what they are going to do !! In real life fighting is another story.
@@thehandyman2296 true but they got to trained how to fight. like Keanu Reeves watch his videos learning martial arts. even it's all scripted he knows how to fight tho
I spared a wing Chung guru, he had good flow landed a good amount but as soon as pegged him with a little thai kick to his his leg he said no more kicks lol... I'm aslo a boxer but I'll tell you what, like in karate as well there are a handful of decent wing Chung moves However Dutch kickboxing and Muay Thai reign surpreme
I've done Wing Chung for over 30 years and I've had to learn to trap in real life situations against boxers and street fighters. But my methods are far from traditional wing chung, and I've been told by many to do a book about it! Also, I have trained people in this method, and it helped them a lot, and not to look like fools. The way to trap is different from the traditional way, I promise!
When the woman began this art/style she wanted to prevent being attacked by bandits and bullies. Master Man demonstrated that range can be adjusted by using feet and legs! Master Lee realized that the jab is the fastest blow in the arts so he studied the footwork of Ali and adapted boxing into his Jeet ! Improvise, adapt, overcome begins with KNOWING YOUR OPPONENT'S style and skill!! Not claiming proficiency when ain't proficient!
Wing chun's ideal range is close range. The problem is that a majority of Wing Chun barely teach footwork. Even if footwork is taught, it's terrible footwork (this includes William cheungs footwork). They'll see an opportunity, but can't get to it fast enough. Bruce Lee implemented fencing and boxing footwork in JKD. You need to bridge the gap and change angles as fast as possible if your opponent is super skilled and has lots of room to move.
TBF this guy's footwork looked fine , he was just terrible at getting inside. Every time he would get close it seemed like he was trying to clinch. He remained standing straight up and square for every attempt and didn't manage to land punches. He had no strategy of overcoming the boxers offense and landing his own. Strategy could have involved conventional boxing slipping and low jabs. Bending leg, bobbing and weaving or moving to the outside of the boxers lead arm and jabbing from an angle that the boxer could not hit him back.
@@mengmao5033yeah, this practitioner's footwork wasn't that bad, really. But i don't think he has practiced his moves all that well on a resisting opponent. He actually succeeded in entering a few times but made nothing of it other than pushing his opponent, which is usually bad for Wing Chun (And also getting punched in the face haha) because he is supposed to fight in the pocket, why would he shove his opponent oit of distance, then? So yeah, this practitioner just has to work on that and maybe we will see some good Wing Chun
That's one reason why Bruce ditched most of wing chun we he arrived in the states. He kept the trapping and rapid punching but he saw the flaws long ago.
I mean , he tried. But at least he was respectful towards his opponent and got the balls to pressure test his art👊 I think a capoeira or mantis style match would be dope for next time !
The main issue with most Wing Chun practitioners is that they focus too much on the style itself. It's not about the style; it's all about you. If you want to use Wing Chun against boxers, you are responsible for making it work, not the Wing Chun style. Train with boxers, adapt & adopt tactics, rules, and principles that are effective against them. Don't rely on strategies that only work against other Wing Chun practitioners. Wing Chun is just a name we use; it's not a fixed entity. Create your own Wing Chun style, and if you're good against boxers, some of them probably already know it :) If you love to stay traditional, that’s fine. But please, remember, this style was created in the 17th century as a response to the common martial arts practiced in certain regions of China. Modern boxing was developed much later and obviously is not one of those martial arts. So don’t be naive - do not expect to beat a boxer by sticking strictly to this path. Just accept that you do this for the spirit, not for real fights.
This right here. I'm a Kung Fu guy, though not Wimg Chun, and my main sparring partners are two boxers and a wrestler. You have to be willing to have pressure put on you and adapt.
Bingo, what if the taller guy had been the wing chun player. I'm not saying that the WC guy had a good approach, but it would have worked much better had the heights been reversed.
I use Wing Chun in sparring all the time. But just like any other sparring, it requires practice, testing stuff, and lots of trial and error. But the results are so worth it. Lots of martial artists just have no respect for people who spar. I think it's insane, and childish. People like them make traditional martial arts look like a joke, even though in reality there's lots of good qualities in every art.
Once you put gloves on, it doesnt matter what discipline you trained in. It'll always turn into a western boxing match, and therefore favor the boxer. Once you pull the gloves off, boxing, mma, it doesnt matter, its a completely different story. Boxing is a specifically a sport. What happens when you pit a boxer against jiujitsu, or judo?...the boxer loses 95% of the time...because he trains to win under the rules that require gloves and no kicking. Remove those rules, and he gets decimated. We all know that's true. You don't know wing chun. I beat boxers with my wing chun, and i suck at it. Never abandon your structure or principles to compete on your opponents terms...'cause you will lose.
Martial Arts: self defense, element of surprise. Boxing: competition all day all the time and self defense. MMA: All disciplines all competition all the time any size, gender element of surprise. Pick your lane and your mission.
The late Okinawa karate master, Motobu Chōki, Sensei, is quoted to have said: “Karate is not for the battlefield or the sports arena”. I totally agree with his position. Battlefield conditions require fighting in formations and the use of weapons primarily, and the sports arena severely limits the array of techniques a combatant can use due to rules). Motobu’s position is applicable to the Wing Chun/Kung-Fu methods. Sensei Motobu was placing karate and kung-fu in their rightful place-personal survival self-defense. The Wing Chun guy in this bout was restrained by rules. He couldn’t grab, use spear hand technique, or strike to vital areas such as knees,eyes, and throat, however, for one’s survival those techniques are in full play. So these boxer vs. karate/kung-fu spectacles can be very misleading.
As a non traditional Wing Chun Practitioner(Wing Chuan) The style has to be modified for a realistic fight scenario!!! The so-called masters should produce videos demonstrating highlighting
this what happened with those fanatic martial art guy who think martial art style is religion.... the WC guy should use his kick to keep distance and try to invite attack from the boxer....when the boxer launch his attack then WC guy try to trap boxer attack...may be WC guy get some luck....
The problem is. WC practitioners. Need to work on their kicks. You learn this in the LAT sao programme. WC is good against wrestlers or wu shu people. Against boxers or muay thai you have to learn to use stairs or the bridge. That's why you should learn boxing and wrestling first and then switch to wing chun.
The Flaw is in the Practioner. Lot of people flock to WC.....but are not accomplished to know how use. They have no sense arm distance and rarely use the leg kicks to intercept. They get caught with chain punching and do know how use trapping hand techniques.
Also Bruce lee is one of the first marchal artists to mix styles specially Filipino kalay marchal art and talk about that style it's not for self defense it's for taking someone out just to let you know if you want sparing with expert or try to challenge someone wearing protection all the time if you don't you will happen
At the end of the day street fighting and boxing is better than almost all martial arts if the martial artist only studied one art. Either of the other fighting styles would win because of the diversity of fighting styles in street and boxing. Be rounded if you want to win a real fight.
Never fight a boxer especially with boxing rules, it is a lose, lose endeavor. Let's flip the tables, Ie let's have the boxer compete against a judo player with judo rules. I wonder how that would turn our
This wing chun guy is a rank amateur. The school I studied at in Toronto in the eighties produced some incredible results . This is a very poor example of a wing chun practitioner and a terrible candidate to represent the art
I don't understand any technique that involves pressing in with both arms extended with no apparent intention to grapple or clinch. Like a weird Frankenstein stiff arm punch shove think. I don't see it from every wing chin practitioner, but I see it more often from wing chun. Can someone explain?
Its just poor skill. Unfortunately many WC practitioner need to be sparring like this with others, that intent to hit them, and that just isn't the case.
Wing chun isn't an 'empty hand sparring' art. Its punches lack power and are just a way to blitz or trap into close range - in order to deliver the only K.O.-worthy payload it's got - which is elbow to the jaw or sternum. That's the only worthwhile objective, really. But I doubt that red dude would agree to taking elbows, would he? That said, Tyson's tight hooks often turned into elbows in the ring 😏. It's kinda wing chun-ish in that respect.
As with any discipline, it depends on the Master that implements it, the evolution of Win Chun is Jeet Kune Do, the Art of the Intercepting Fist... -Bruce Lee
The yt channel 'Weaponism' has done a few videos on MMA vs Kendo that I's love to hear your take on. They've actually got a couple bare hands vs weapons videos, but the mma ones they did were the most interesting imo
I'll just tell you right now, unarmed versus weapon is a 99% loss for the unarmed guy if the weapon guy has a real weapon and any clue how to use it. Especially, you said Kendo? Especially a weapon like a razor sharp sword that's pretty quick and gives you more than two feet of extra reach. You're not getting in on that. You're getting cut and losing blood fast.
@@suplexed I'm sorry, that's beyond stupid. MMA versus Kendo doesn't even make sense unless you imagine the Kendo person is using a real weapon, not a shinai. Kendo is a point-fighting sport meant to imply real swords. MMA is a full-contact sport where the amount of actual damage inflicted by your attacks matters. Sorry, I guess I was wrong to assume your question was to be interpreted in the least stupid way possible.
@@TheMisterGuy buddy what are you even talking about? Just go watch the bloody video. One person had a shinai, the other person didn't, and they did some sparring. It's a cool video. You don't need to 'imagine' anything. A kendo sword is a kendo sword; the people who have to 'imagine' anything else are just larpers.
Wing Chun is such a confusing martial art to me. On the one hand, especially compared to other kung fu styles, it seems so much more practical and straightforward. No flowery movements. No weird animal style type stuff. Just punches and kicks. Stuff that we know works. Yet on the other hand it's like they took those punches and kicks and made them the least effective as possible. I like to compare to boxing. (And yes, I know it was not developed from boxing.) But it's like they took boxing and deliberately made it worse. Instead of the boxing stance which is natural and mobile and flexible, they said, hey let's take our feet make them parallel (which is less good for balance and mobility) and then let's turn our feet and knees awkwardly inward which is uncomfortable and unnatural. and then let's take the punches of boxing and first of all let's get rid of hooks and uppercuts. And then, let's take what's left and instead of punching from the whole body the way boxing does let's just make them arm punches. And then there's trapping. as I've said before, there's really no such thing as trapping range. Trapping range is grappling range. The whole thing is a dichotomy of useless practicality. Lol.
Why and the time when wing chun was created is different than when and why boxing was created Wing chun was created back then to counter other chinese martial arts Then they didn't evolved their style Whereas in west boxing was constantly pressure tested and its modern martial art 2 days ago i sparred with an state level boxer and used an aspect of wing chun and it worked on him ( chain of punches ) ( im more into mma) Because im sure he has never seen that technique before I know the antitode of the move i used from the perspective of his art He should have sway back and hit with hook I think 9/10 boxer will win against wing chun practitoner For street wing chun can be good
@@mikereigns8134 well said. I especially like what you said about how boxing evolved due to the constant pressure testing. Interestingly enough, if you look at boxing pre-1800s (and even some during the 1800s) it actually kind of similar to a wing chun guard. But, likeyou said, boxing continued to evolve.
i think most people who came across this fight for the first time was shortly after watching i.p. Man. i swear i remember red shirt dude like it was yesterday
So interesting. I wonder why this match isn't on Anson Yu's channel. I'll do a search on Chinese social media to see if I can find more cross discipline matches from him.
I will grant the fact that the boxer is SIGNIFICANTLY larger. Also, he did actually enter multiple times significantly (dont know why you said he didn't), he was just clueless when he got there.
Pau!! How have you been? So fun to see you in the comments again. It's so weird how the TH-cam algorithm will cycle videos to old viewers randomly. There's another viewer named Elenchus who would comment on a lot of videos, but then he'll disappear for years because TH-cam stopped serving him videos. And then he'll reappear again for a year and then disappear. Man, the only thing more random than trapping range is the TH-cam recommendation engine. When did you start seeing my videos in your feed again?
WC guy should have kept circling into the hook and finding ways to trap or jam it, then enter. I mean, he would likely have gotten hit 90% of those times, but at least execute the gameplan your art preaches. He didn't create opportunities to trap that were timed/dictated by himself, ceding initiative to the boxer. When he did initiate, it was low success chain punching or even jumping and punching.
This fight was a YT classic! I remember watching it maybe even earlier than 2010. It is awesome to watch this classic video again! Another one really old classical video is the owner of Art Of War championship (when he was BJJ blue belt) fight against Xu Xiadong (when he was only a Sanda fighter). I remember watching those fights so MANY years ago!
Biggest mistake is trying to box a boxer. WC is about ending the fight as soon as possible using anything at your disposal. Why does he only pursue trying to punch to the head of the boxer?! Kick to the knees or groin. Particularly with the boxer being so much taller. If they were fighting with boxing rules, then it's not showing the real effect of WC.
It's not wing chun vs. boxing, it's experience vs. lack of experience. If a wc duds is used to sparring he will do well in boxing. Bruce Lee beat the amateur boxing champ he fought against in high school.
That ain't no dam wing chun...hell nawwww...IP Man rolling over n his tomb...IP man Bruce lee n Jet Li is my top 3...my favorites...don't disrespect IP Man like that...plzzzzzz
Wing Chun must have footwork, yet, where is the WC guy's footwork? Not saying it would have been a deciding factor, but the lack of it cost him a lot. Peek-a-boo would do him a lot better.
No body believe with BRUCE LEE chowmein noodles fighting style. It is only for fantasy movies but reality it will not work that CHOWMEIN NOODLES chinese skinny fighting style 🤫🥳😅
WING CHUNG is a DEFENSIVE ART. It's Not Designed for AGGRESSION... The BOXER job was Easy... Just walk him into a Counter. However, it would be a reversal of position, had the BOXER attacked with Aggression first.
Well as boxing vs Wing Chun goes it all depends on the skills of the fighter. I had the opportunity to go against two golden glove boxers in my youth; one the streets and the other in a controlled environment. I am not ragging on boxing, because I believe it is one of the best defense arts out there for many reason. In my experiences, I came out ahead for a few good reasons: attitude (100% confidence in Wing Chun), good eye and hand coordination, good control and understanding of distance, good tracking skills, continues attacks (I also used my attack as defenses), good control of the opponents stance, but most important of all I landed my punches with meaning. At the time Emin Boztepe was the head of the American WT organization. His drills were designed to deal with boxers, grapplers, and thugs. No nonsense training. Thinking back, I think I had the honor to go against a 3rd golden glove boxer; same result.
Please, if you are going to say someone is a Wi g Chun instructor, please,please check to see if they even know Wing Chun. As this Wing Chun guy vs boxer, the Wing Chun guy didn't show any Wing Chun style, moves, zero. Not even a Wing Chun punch. The guy maybe read a book on Wing Chun. Just please, check to see... don't call a fraud a Wing Chun instructor. Thank you
Watch Bruce Lee study his all his books Bruce loved boxers because they represent real fighting. Even though Bruce knew wing Chun he knew just Wing Chun alone wasn't complete.
😅 I don't get why the Kung Fu why his hands are down. They don't teach that. Hands up. He's not fast enough. Bong sao is weak. Bridging is weak. Upper body strength is very weak his arms became tired quickly. I do this. But I also have been boxing for a long time too so I can combine both. I see the Wing Chun mistakes!!!
Bruce Lee said, you have to use ABC attack by combination when fighting a boxer type. But if you're gonna use wing chun you need to know the benefits and the downsides. Every art has ups and downs even boxing.
Wing chun is made for defense. This dude is jumping around bobbing and weaving. No fundamentals at all. No 60/40 stance, no anything. If this dude is a coach, he needs to be shut down for not knowing even the basics. What an embarrassment to wing chun. He should be ashamed. Wing chun is perfect for fighting a boxer. This guy is a joke. Many of you have probably seen Ip Man movies. He fought a boxer. But this is inaccurate. It was actually his student that fought a Russian professional boxer and beat KOd the boxer in 3 punches. If you watch any video of any wing chin versus any other fighter they usually lose because if you watch them they never use the fundamentals. They always throw uncoordinated punches and flail their arms around kind of like this guy. None of the videos you see are actual wing chung masters. They are all guys who have seen too many Ip Man movies
The only way a Wing Chun man has a chance against a Boxer is to learn how to box!! Understand the defenses,footwork, timing etc. Wing Chun players typically spar other Wing Chun players thus their inability to deal with boxers. No criticism intended, its just fact! Practicing defenses against locked punches is useless and will never work against boxers in the empty hand range. Boxers dont leave any limbs out to be trapped.
I will hold my position' It's not that the style doesn't work, any style, it's implementation. My experience has been this: You learn the basics- how to properly kick, punch, block- and that's it. If you do anymore than that, you put yourself into a mental box and will not be able to adjust to the situation and will, quite literally, try to force what you learn into the situation. The problem is that the opponent will not follow suit and will do something contrary. The result will be what happened to the Wing Chun guy.
This is not a real wing chun master, instructor or anything. Both of these guys are complete amateurs. First of all, take off the gloves! Wing chun is known for having hard hands. If a boxer is going to accept a match against a wing chun artist, they have to accept being kicked, tossed and put in locks. Thats all a part of wing chun.
why not have match under Wing Chun rule instead of Boxing rules? So wing Chun can used both his hands and kicks like wing Chun supposed to? If Mayweather were to fight McGreg under MMA rule, Mayweather would loose. But for some reasons, other martial artists willing to fight a Boxer under Boxing rules! Why not the other way around and see the result.
People that training in the martial arts.. Should train all the arts with boxing skills and kick boxing skills aswell. In my school we train boxing techniques with the arts and make it effective to our advantage.
Even Bruce learned by watching Muhammad Ali as far as boxing goes to enhance his fist game. But in this video people are always trying to discredit wing chun. That guy in the video isn't a master of wing chun.
Yeah the fact that he has about a foot of reach on the other guy has nothing to do with that at all. Also if you take away the feet and elbows of a martial arts to take away a lot of their weapons.
😂 the problem with a lot of these Wing Chun practitioners, they try to hold the stance too hard 😂 The Stance is what Bruce Lee found inferior The Wing Chun, that's why he adapted more of a boxing stance to his fighting style. The Wing Chun stance is just too stiff when it comes to going against a trained fighter
Problem is most people only use Wing Chun in a school, they don't know how to use it in the street. You said it..too squared up and and eating shots, his guard also needs to be revised. Easy pickings for the boxer
Nothing about this opponment looks Wing Chun. If they dont have their arms out, how is it Wing Chun? People dont practise on a Wooden dummy with their arms down, they have them out infront of them. To even hit the boxer he needed to get into close range to the boxer, but never did. The boxer kept him away easily and stopped even raising his arms to defend Boxing is simple. 3 punches. So those 3 punches are done to a very high degree. No secret techniques and super-level skill moves. the stuf you do in the beginning is the stuff you will do at the end
I know nothing, but from recent viewing of information online my understanding is Wing Chun is all about fighting very close. The tall boxer had such a reach there was not going to be any of that with him. The one thing I am fairly sure of, someone trained in any form of fighting with sparing will survive fight with someone untrained.
This Wing Chinese definitely no master, he's not using any bong sounds or any simultaneous offense defense, he's not using any of his elbows to block the hooks, he's barely using his legs and when he does he's not using them right, he's not being able to judge the distance correctly, he's obviously not sparred with life Partners to learn how to apply whatever he's learned, he definitely should not be teaching if he's doing so. These people giving such a bad reputation to True Wing Chun, if Wing Chun was not good Bruce Lee would have definitely not Incorporated it into Jeet Kune Do
Sanatan Shastar Vidiya vs another martial art. Only legitimate master is Gurdev Nidar Singh Nihang. No other sanctioned teachers in these systems. Would love to see something about it, as it has high claims of oldest battlefield martial of India. Kind regards.
Wing chun more like weak chun ..and all u bruce lee fanatics and zealots, he was not master martial artist nor a fighter nonetheless a good fighter or great, he was a movie actor mostly and cha cha champ born to a superstar dad in singing in china...
As a student of Chow Gar, I do not like to defend Wing Tsun practicioners, but what i see here is a poor example of the style. Where is his almost mandatory cover hand? Where is the Wing Tsun "接受前进的，跟随后退的，如果失去联系，就向前进攻" basic strategy? This fighter has accepted ego and panic, and has abandoned even the few useful moves the style has to offer. A more skilled proponent would have been more useful as an example. I have fought better than he, and they were not instructor level.
Tough pill to swallow. The boxer danced around the WC teacher. Lack of focus on WC teacher. Maybe moving in and out, then move to the left or right, to see what's coming from boxer. Definitely, softening up the mid section with some kicks, that might help, seeing the boxer was taller. Need to attack with kicks. Don't fight his fight, fight yours. Need footwork, be more agile "or" you get picked off. Kudos to boxing 🥊! Bruce Lee started as a boxer, won a few fights. Bruce Lee could've used his cha cha dancing in this case. But overall, an experienced boxer, look out!
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Boxing Coach Anson's channel is in the video description and cards. If anyone has any information on this Wing Chun coach, please let me know! Here is Anson's Chinese name: 余鐵良 (余铁良). I'll search on social media to see if I can get in touch with him!
square is actually fine for entering with wing chun, and he doesn't need to have his hand up to protect himself. He actually needs to learn to close, off balance and blitz, instead he is pot-shotting which is what gives rise to the need for boxing basics. Wing chun should force hooks that it prevents with arm control. Real wing chun looks like a dirty boxing and clinch fighting. The reason these wing chun guys don't develop this is its mostly a lost art and also they dont train like fighters
The wing chun dude can't be an instructor,.he has no style , he's sloppy and charging at his opponent carelessly..this guy can't be what they claim him out to b....
Nothing against boxers but I disagree with boxers will win...not a true experience wing chun fighter,.ther not going to go running straight to punches..like this dude did making him look even more stupid really ,..
WING CHUN was developed by a woman so one can see the disastrous results when it comes to combat.
Boxing is no joke
Not as big a joke as Ping Pung martial arts!
Why would you say such a Things... You saw the clip in front of your eyes ❤
The punch sh2t like something with 100 lbs hit you.
@@Evus-st5diyou’d get slammed by a boxer
@@arandomuser2378 I'm a former Amateur boxer and I'd slam you.
If you read Bruce Lees book he says boxing is superior and should b mastered first. Then incorporate the other styles. His reasoning was that a punch is the fastest strike and that boxing requires faster reflexes
@@dennymcdaniels5610 FACTS
many martial artists don't know how to box and that's sad. If you want to fight you have to learn boxing, I trained traditional martial arts for years but I only learned to fight when start train boxing.
Same here. I started in Hung Gar but didn't know how to fight until I started Boxing several years later.
The strange thing is a lot of people who train martial arts, not all, do not consider boxing and wrestling martial arts. This is crazy, and like you said, leads to a deficit in skills in critical areas. I love training with both and sharing notes and ideas.
那是你們訓練的問題不是武術的問題吧⋯⋯
@@ricardowashington4447 yeah, i've heard "Boxing is a sport, not a martial art" so many times...
Learning Muay Thai or Boxing or both, not only make one a better martial artist obviously, but will make it possible to be effective with frowned upon arts like Wing Chun.
Where are the Wing Chun fighter's kicks? Against a taller opponent, you have to use kicks to bridge the distance!!!
Might be an agreed ruleset idk
I think kicks are frowned upon in a sparring match
Probably forgot about it lmaooo
Imo there are no rules in fights especially if you are limiting your opponent against your weakness. That just says please don't kick me, I can't defend that.
Yea sorry no boxer is going to win against a person with good kicks. Wing chun is not only hands this is stupid it proves nothing. Boxing ain't no joke yep only when aren't
allowed A boxer of skill vs a martial artist with good kicks..sorry boxer is at a disadvantage period.
Yes, Jerry, your knowledge of Chineese and the ability to find rare stuff other martial arts youtubers can't are exactly the reason we follow your channel
This fight took place in 2010 and caused quite a stir back then. The boxer, Yu Tieliang, is a boxing champ and has represented HK in the Olympics. If memory serves, the WC guy claimed his scientific approach to WC was superior to boxing, and that he'd show the boxer "how to fight the right way." The boxer accepted his challenge, and the rest........is history.
The duration of training, the experience, the caliber of the coach and the caliber of the teacher makes a big difference. You can put the boxer up to Yip man or Sigong Bruce and the abilities, experience and the duration of practice will reveal a lot and we know it wouldn't be fair to the boxer.... So all things have to be considered like biorhythm, timing, agility and mental clarity
You have to say it's a mis-match from the start anyway...the Boxer is far heavier, taller and has an immensely longer reach...
Not his but HIS story!
Im really impressed how these guys believe they can fight. Even though They have never been in a real fight.
I don't understand being in martial arts and not fighting.
Ive been to gyms where the owners didn't like sparring because of injuries but its better to get hurt around friends then on the street being attacked.
I believe everyone comes to martial arts for the same reasons. They may change after you get skill. But everyone wants to be able to defend themselves.
You cannot train to fight and never fight.
Iv'e seen a few highly trained
wing tsun practitioners fight opponents of boxing and kung.fu and they had no problem at all. So I think its the practitioner more than the style. I am not familiar with this wing chun practitioner but his style seems relatively weak
i was only able to use any wing chun techniques after years of sparing and experimenting with karate practitioners and then with kickboxers and thai boxers. Reading bruce lee's books really helped with training and application
A lot of people think that what you see in movies is real !! No my friends, there’s a lot of choreography involved in it. In a movie both actors opponents know what they are going to do !! In real life fighting is another story.
@@thehandyman2296 true but they got to trained how to fight. like Keanu Reeves watch his videos learning martial arts. even it's all scripted he knows how to fight tho
I spared a wing Chung guru, he had good flow landed a good amount but as soon as pegged him with a little thai kick to his his leg he said no more kicks lol...
I'm aslo a boxer but I'll tell you what, like in karate as well there are a handful of decent wing Chung moves
However Dutch kickboxing and Muay Thai reign surpreme
I've done Wing Chung for over 30 years and I've had to learn to trap in real life situations against boxers and street fighters. But my methods are far from traditional wing chung, and I've been told by many to do a book about it! Also, I have trained people in this method, and it helped them a lot, and not to look like fools. The way to trap is different from the traditional way, I promise!
Respects, please don't tell me this guy represents 'traditional' wing chun.
When the woman began this art/style she wanted to prevent being attacked by bandits and bullies. Master Man demonstrated that range can be adjusted by using feet and legs! Master Lee realized that the jab is the fastest blow in the arts so he studied the footwork of Ali and adapted boxing into his Jeet ! Improvise, adapt, overcome begins with KNOWING YOUR OPPONENT'S style and skill!! Not claiming proficiency when ain't proficient!
Wing chun's ideal range is close range. The problem is that a majority of Wing Chun barely teach footwork. Even if footwork is taught, it's terrible footwork (this includes William cheungs footwork). They'll see an opportunity, but can't get to it fast enough. Bruce Lee implemented fencing and boxing footwork in JKD. You need to bridge the gap and change angles as fast as possible if your opponent is super skilled and has lots of room to move.
And extreme lack of head movement. If you look at Mark Phillips and his wing chun, he was always getting his head off centerline.
This particular WC fighter is at least making efforts to side step. Nothing that he builds on, but it makes him slightly more effective
TBF this guy's footwork looked fine , he was just terrible at getting inside. Every time he would get close it seemed like he was trying to clinch. He remained standing straight up and square for every attempt and didn't manage to land punches.
He had no strategy of overcoming the boxers offense and landing his own.
Strategy could have involved conventional boxing slipping and low jabs. Bending leg, bobbing and weaving or moving to the outside of the boxers lead arm and jabbing from an angle that the boxer could not hit him back.
@@FightCommentarytrue that
@@mengmao5033yeah, this practitioner's footwork wasn't that bad, really. But i don't think he has practiced his moves all that well on a resisting opponent. He actually succeeded in entering a few times but made nothing of it other than pushing his opponent, which is usually bad for Wing Chun (And also getting punched in the face haha) because he is supposed to fight in the pocket, why would he shove his opponent oit of distance, then? So yeah, this practitioner just has to work on that and maybe we will see some good Wing Chun
That's one reason why Bruce ditched most of wing chun we he arrived in the states. He kept the trapping and rapid punching but he saw the flaws long ago.
I mean , he tried. But at least he was respectful towards his opponent and got the balls to pressure test his art👊 I think a capoeira or mantis style match would be dope for next time !
Capoeira X Mantis Kung Fu happened in Ganryujima.
@@aluisiofsjr Neat!
The main issue with most Wing Chun practitioners is that they focus too much on the style itself. It's not about the style; it's all about you. If you want to use Wing Chun against boxers, you are responsible for making it work, not the Wing Chun style. Train with boxers, adapt & adopt tactics, rules, and principles that are effective against them. Don't rely on strategies that only work against other Wing Chun practitioners. Wing Chun is just a name we use; it's not a fixed entity. Create your own Wing Chun style, and if you're good against boxers, some of them probably already know it :)
If you love to stay traditional, that’s fine. But please, remember, this style was created in the 17th century as a response to the common martial arts practiced in certain regions of China. Modern boxing was developed much later and obviously is not one of those martial arts. So don’t be naive - do not expect to beat a boxer by sticking strictly to this path. Just accept that you do this for the spirit, not for real fights.
This right here. I'm a Kung Fu guy, though not Wimg Chun, and my main sparring partners are two boxers and a wrestler. You have to be willing to have pressure put on you and adapt.
Respect to WC to test his skills
This man has no fighting skills. And it was Wing Chun trainer, poor his students, deceiving them every day..
@@santory5788 at least he decided to test his skills, few people are brave enough to sparring.
@@santory5788 about he taught WC to others well it is a pity.
Fighting a taller opponent is a nightmare.
Edited: HA! I sure did piss off the fake tough guys, with this comment.
Bingo, what if the taller guy had been the wing chun player. I'm not saying that the WC guy had a good approach, but it would have worked much better had the heights been reversed.
Fighting a Boxer are a Nightmare.
I don't think bunny hopping with outstretched and stiff arms is going to do much against any legitimate fighters even if they happen to be 5'5''
When you don’t know what you’re doing, yeah, I’d imagine so.
@@Sakaki98 So Semmy Schilt's opponents didn't know what they were doing?
I use Wing Chun in sparring all the time. But just like any other sparring, it requires practice, testing stuff, and lots of trial and error. But the results are so worth it.
Lots of martial artists just have no respect for people who spar. I think it's insane, and childish. People like them make traditional martial arts look like a joke, even though in reality there's lots of good qualities in every art.
Its good for close range
An athlete vs a restaurant owner 😅😂
Once you put gloves on, it doesnt matter what discipline you trained in. It'll always turn into a western boxing match, and therefore favor the boxer. Once you pull the gloves off, boxing, mma, it doesnt matter, its a completely different story. Boxing is a specifically a sport. What happens when you pit a boxer against jiujitsu, or judo?...the boxer loses 95% of the time...because he trains to win under the rules that require gloves and no kicking. Remove those rules, and he gets decimated. We all know that's true. You don't know wing chun. I beat boxers with my wing chun, and i suck at it. Never abandon your structure or principles to compete on your opponents terms...'cause you will lose.
The WC guy was using MMA gloves with open fingers and used kicks.
Boxing is a Martial Art😎
Dude is much taller, stupid comparison 😂
Bruce lee made jkd seems like a better version of wing chung
It was supposed to be lol
That's partly why Bruce created jkd
Martial Arts: self defense, element of surprise. Boxing: competition all day all the time and self defense. MMA: All disciplines all competition all the time any size, gender element of surprise. Pick your lane and your mission.
That's why Bruce Lee made his own style of a combination of Wing Chung, boxing, and submission Jeet Kune Do
2:49 So uh, what kind of "activity" did your neighbors do in the kitchen? 🤣
The late Okinawa karate master, Motobu Chōki, Sensei, is quoted to have said: “Karate is not for the battlefield or the sports arena”. I totally agree with his position. Battlefield conditions require fighting in formations and the use of weapons primarily, and the sports arena severely limits the array of techniques a combatant can use due to rules). Motobu’s position is applicable to the Wing Chun/Kung-Fu methods. Sensei Motobu was placing karate and kung-fu in their rightful place-personal survival self-defense. The Wing Chun guy in this bout was restrained by rules. He couldn’t grab, use spear hand technique, or strike to vital areas such as knees,eyes, and throat, however, for one’s survival those techniques are in full play. So these boxer vs. karate/kung-fu spectacles can be very misleading.
As a non traditional Wing Chun Practitioner(Wing Chuan) The style has to be modified for a realistic fight scenario!!! The so-called masters should produce videos demonstrating highlighting
this what happened with those fanatic martial art guy who think martial art style is religion.... the WC guy should use his kick to keep distance and try to invite attack from the boxer....when the boxer launch his attack then WC guy try to trap boxer attack...may be WC guy get some luck....
The problem is. WC practitioners. Need to work on their kicks. You learn this in the LAT sao programme. WC is good against wrestlers or wu shu people. Against boxers or muay thai you have to learn to use stairs or the bridge. That's why you should learn boxing and wrestling first and then switch to wing chun.
The Flaw is in the Practioner. Lot of people flock to WC.....but are not accomplished to know how use. They have no sense arm distance and rarely use the leg kicks to intercept. They get caught with chain punching and do know how use trapping hand techniques.
Wing Chun guy has very little sparring experience also he was head hunting!!!
Ving shun guy is fighting with a basket ball player.. it is difficult to reach his head.. attact his legs/arms first
Also Bruce lee is one of the first marchal artists to mix styles specially Filipino kalay marchal art and talk about that style it's not for self defense it's for taking someone out just to let you know if you want sparing with expert or try to challenge someone wearing protection all the time if you don't you will happen
At the end of the day street fighting and boxing is better than almost all martial arts if the martial artist only studied one art. Either of the other fighting styles would win because of the diversity of fighting styles in street and boxing. Be rounded if you want to win a real fight.
Your neighbor is cooking in the bedroom. Love at first punch!
Couldn’t you have chosen a more unevenly matched pair? The boxer’s arms are nearly as long as his opponent is tall.
Wing Chun is a fake.
Everybody knows that.
It's unpractical and only usefull for Kung Fu movies.
You should go for Tomoi.
Never fight a boxer especially with boxing rules, it is a lose, lose endeavor. Let's flip the tables, Ie let's have the boxer compete against a judo player with judo rules. I wonder how that would turn our
This wing chun guy is a rank amateur. The school I studied at in Toronto in the eighties produced some incredible results . This is a very poor example of a wing chun practitioner and a terrible candidate to represent the art
I don't understand any technique that involves pressing in with both arms extended with no apparent intention to grapple or clinch. Like a weird Frankenstein stiff arm punch shove think. I don't see it from every wing chin practitioner, but I see it more often from wing chun. Can someone explain?
It's called "Bridging" 寻桥. But usually if you look at Qi La La, he doesn't enter blindly. He uses strikes to set up a bridging attempt.
Its just poor skill. Unfortunately many WC practitioner need to be sparring like this with others, that intent to hit them, and that just isn't the case.
Wing chun isn't an 'empty hand sparring' art.
Its punches lack power and are just a way to blitz or trap into close range - in order to deliver the only K.O.-worthy payload it's got - which is elbow to the jaw or sternum. That's the only worthwhile objective, really. But I doubt that red dude would agree to taking elbows, would he?
That said, Tyson's tight hooks often turned into elbows in the ring 😏. It's kinda wing chun-ish in that respect.
As with any discipline, it depends on the Master that implements it, the evolution of Win Chun is Jeet Kune Do, the Art of the Intercepting Fist...
-Bruce Lee
Every body got a Plan, until u get punched in the face .. MT
How to have a boxing match with a boxer, when you don't know how to box. Usually, does not end well.
spot on exactly
The yt channel 'Weaponism' has done a few videos on MMA vs Kendo that I's love to hear your take on. They've actually got a couple bare hands vs weapons videos, but the mma ones they did were the most interesting imo
I want to take some fencing classes and then I'll do more commentary on weapon martial arts. Stay tuned!
I'll just tell you right now, unarmed versus weapon is a 99% loss for the unarmed guy if the weapon guy has a real weapon and any clue how to use it. Especially, you said Kendo? Especially a weapon like a razor sharp sword that's pretty quick and gives you more than two feet of extra reach. You're not getting in on that. You're getting cut and losing blood fast.
@@TheMisterGuy Yeah no duh. When did I mention razor sharp anything? This might be a surprise, but they don't use real swords in kendo.
@@suplexed I'm sorry, that's beyond stupid. MMA versus Kendo doesn't even make sense unless you imagine the Kendo person is using a real weapon, not a shinai. Kendo is a point-fighting sport meant to imply real swords. MMA is a full-contact sport where the amount of actual damage inflicted by your attacks matters. Sorry, I guess I was wrong to assume your question was to be interpreted in the least stupid way possible.
@@TheMisterGuy buddy what are you even talking about? Just go watch the bloody video. One person had a shinai, the other person didn't, and they did some sparring. It's a cool video. You don't need to 'imagine' anything. A kendo sword is a kendo sword; the people who have to 'imagine' anything else are just larpers.
Not quite Ip Man vs Twister.
🙃
Was Twister in the fourth one or the second one?
@@FightCommentary second
I see.
MAster ? Not even a novice...😂😂😂
Only good for people who don't know how to fight
Get a better video to explore reality 😂
Wing Chun is such a confusing martial art to me. On the one hand, especially compared to other kung fu styles, it seems so much more practical and straightforward. No flowery movements. No weird animal style type stuff. Just punches and kicks. Stuff that we know works.
Yet on the other hand it's like they took those punches and kicks and made them the least effective as possible. I like to compare to boxing. (And yes, I know it was not developed from boxing.) But it's like they took boxing and deliberately made it worse.
Instead of the boxing stance which is natural and mobile and flexible, they said, hey let's take our feet make them parallel (which is less good for balance and mobility) and then let's turn our feet and knees awkwardly inward which is uncomfortable and unnatural. and then let's take the punches of boxing and first of all let's get rid of hooks and uppercuts. And then, let's take what's left and instead of punching from the whole body the way boxing does let's just make them arm punches. And then there's trapping. as I've said before, there's really no such thing as trapping range. Trapping range is grappling range.
The whole thing is a dichotomy of useless practicality. Lol.
On top of that they look out any semblance of a good guard too
Why and the time when wing chun was created is different than when and why boxing was created
Wing chun was created back then to counter other chinese martial arts
Then they didn't evolved their style
Whereas in west boxing was constantly pressure tested and its modern martial art
2 days ago i sparred with an state level boxer and used an aspect of wing chun and it worked on him ( chain of punches ) ( im more into mma)
Because im sure he has never seen that technique before
I know the antitode of the move i used from the perspective of his art
He should have sway back and hit with hook
I think 9/10 boxer will win against wing chun practitoner
For street wing chun can be good
@@mikereigns8134 well said. I especially like what you said about how boxing evolved due to the constant pressure testing. Interestingly enough, if you look at boxing pre-1800s (and even some during the 1800s) it actually kind of similar to a wing chun guard. But, likeyou said, boxing continued to evolve.
i think most people who came across this fight for the first time was shortly after watching i.p. Man. i swear i remember red shirt dude like it was yesterday
So interesting. I wonder why this match isn't on Anson Yu's channel. I'll do a search on Chinese social media to see if I can find more cross discipline matches from him.
You wanna see legit wing chun, go watch a movie.
I will grant the fact that the boxer is SIGNIFICANTLY larger. Also, he did actually enter multiple times significantly (dont know why you said he didn't), he was just clueless when he got there.
Pau!! How have you been? So fun to see you in the comments again. It's so weird how the TH-cam algorithm will cycle videos to old viewers randomly. There's another viewer named Elenchus who would comment on a lot of videos, but then he'll disappear for years because TH-cam stopped serving him videos. And then he'll reappear again for a year and then disappear. Man, the only thing more random than trapping range is the TH-cam recommendation engine. When did you start seeing my videos in your feed again?
WC guy should have kept circling into the hook and finding ways to trap or jam it, then enter. I mean, he would likely have gotten hit 90% of those times, but at least execute the gameplan your art preaches. He didn't create opportunities to trap that were timed/dictated by himself, ceding initiative to the boxer. When he did initiate, it was low success chain punching or even jumping and punching.
What a kung fuul!
Ip Man? More like: Sleep, Man! 😂
This fight was a YT classic! I remember watching it maybe even earlier than 2010. It is awesome to watch this classic video again! Another one really old classical video is the owner of Art Of War championship (when he was BJJ blue belt) fight against Xu Xiadong (when he was only a Sanda fighter). I remember watching those fights so MANY years ago!
2:02 "You got knocked the eff out man!"....😵😵😵
Biggest mistake is trying to box a boxer. WC is about ending the fight as soon as possible using anything at your disposal. Why does he only pursue trying to punch to the head of the boxer?! Kick to the knees or groin. Particularly with the boxer being so much taller. If they were fighting with boxing rules, then it's not showing the real effect of WC.
that’s not a wing chun instructor ; no idea of what combat wing chun is! another BS video
It's not wing chun vs. boxing, it's experience vs. lack of experience. If a wc duds is used to sparring he will do well in boxing. Bruce Lee beat the amateur boxing champ he fought against in high school.
That ain't no dam wing chun...hell nawwww...IP Man rolling over n his tomb...IP man Bruce lee n Jet Li is my top 3...my favorites...don't disrespect IP Man like that...plzzzzzz
Wing Chun must have footwork, yet, where is the WC guy's footwork? Not saying it would have been a deciding factor, but the lack of it cost him a lot. Peek-a-boo would do him a lot better.
Yep. That is a great observation. The awkwardness in his entries definitely has a lot to do with lack of proper footwork.
That guy is not a boxer AT ALL!!! If he’s a boxer, I’m Muhammad Ali.
In a real fight, a real boxer will beat the shit out of a wing chun practitioner every time.
No body believe with BRUCE LEE chowmein noodles fighting style. It is only for fantasy movies but reality it will not work that CHOWMEIN NOODLES chinese skinny fighting style 🤫🥳😅
WING CHUNG is a DEFENSIVE ART.
It's Not Designed for AGGRESSION...
The BOXER job was Easy... Just walk him into a Counter.
However, it would be a reversal of position, had the BOXER attacked with Aggression first.
The wing chun guy should use double sticky hand receipt hand technique instead of what ever he is using
Well as boxing vs Wing Chun goes it all depends on the skills of the fighter. I had the opportunity to go against two golden glove boxers in my youth; one the streets and the other in a controlled environment. I am not ragging on boxing, because I believe it is one of the best defense arts out there for many reason. In my experiences, I came out ahead for a few good reasons: attitude (100% confidence in Wing Chun), good eye and hand coordination, good control and understanding of distance, good tracking skills, continues attacks (I also used my attack as defenses), good control of the opponents stance, but most important of all I landed my punches with meaning. At the time Emin Boztepe was the head of the American WT organization. His drills were designed to deal with boxers, grapplers, and thugs. No nonsense training. Thinking back, I think I had the honor to go against a 3rd golden glove boxer; same result.
Please, if you are going to say someone is a Wi g Chun instructor, please,please check to see if they even know Wing Chun. As this Wing Chun guy vs boxer, the Wing Chun guy didn't show any Wing Chun style, moves, zero. Not even a Wing Chun punch. The guy maybe read a book on Wing Chun. Just please, check to see... don't call a fraud a Wing Chun instructor. Thank you
Watch Bruce Lee study his all his books Bruce loved boxers because they represent real fighting. Even though Bruce knew wing Chun he knew just Wing Chun alone wasn't complete.
Wing Chun guy is too small for the boxing guy. It just like an adult fighting with a child.
😅 I don't get why the Kung Fu why his hands are down. They don't teach that. Hands up. He's not fast enough. Bong sao is weak. Bridging is weak. Upper body strength is very weak his arms became tired quickly. I do this. But I also have been boxing for a long time too so I can combine both. I see the Wing Chun mistakes!!!
That ,amazing, they did say,a experience boxer ,might just beat majority martial artist 🎨 or fighter❤😂🎉😢😮😮😅,and I got this black belt magazine. ❤😂😢😮
& highlighting the effectiveness of Wing Chun in real situations & sparring not simulations!!!!
Bruce Lee said, you have to use ABC attack by combination when fighting a boxer type. But if you're gonna use wing chun you need to know the benefits and the downsides. Every art has ups and downs even boxing.
Problem with Wing Chun is you use your face to block punches😂😂..yes, very effective 😂😂
Wing chun is made for defense. This dude is jumping around bobbing and weaving. No fundamentals at all. No 60/40 stance, no anything. If this dude is a coach, he needs to be shut down for not knowing even the basics. What an embarrassment to wing chun. He should be ashamed. Wing chun is perfect for fighting a boxer. This guy is a joke. Many of you have probably seen Ip Man movies. He fought a boxer. But this is inaccurate. It was actually his student that fought a Russian professional boxer and beat KOd the boxer in 3 punches. If you watch any video of any wing chin versus any other fighter they usually lose because if you watch them they never use the fundamentals. They always throw uncoordinated punches and flail their arms around kind of like this guy. None of the videos you see are actual wing chung masters. They are all guys who have seen too many Ip Man movies
The only way a Wing Chun man has a chance against a Boxer is to learn how to box!!
Understand the defenses,footwork, timing etc.
Wing Chun players typically spar other Wing Chun players thus their inability to deal with boxers. No criticism intended, its just fact!
Practicing defenses against locked punches is useless and will never work against boxers in the empty hand range. Boxers dont leave any limbs out to be trapped.
If the 2 guys same size maybe the result isn't same. The fight not start yet i already guess who is the winner.
I'm a wing chun practitioner and every boxer I've fought I beaten them senseless . This guy is a disgrace to wing chun .
I will hold my position' It's not that the style doesn't work, any style, it's implementation.
My experience has been this: You learn the basics- how to properly kick, punch, block- and that's it.
If you do anymore than that, you put yourself into a mental box and will not be able to adjust to the situation and will, quite literally, try to force what you learn into the situation. The problem is that the opponent will not follow suit and will do something contrary. The result will be what happened to the Wing Chun guy.
This is not a real wing chun master, instructor or anything. Both of these guys are complete amateurs. First of all, take off the gloves! Wing chun is known for having hard hands. If a boxer is going to accept a match against a wing chun artist, they have to accept being kicked, tossed and put in locks. Thats all a part of wing chun.
why not have match under Wing Chun rule instead of Boxing rules? So wing Chun can used both his hands and kicks like wing Chun supposed to? If Mayweather were to fight McGreg under MMA rule, Mayweather would loose. But for some reasons, other martial artists willing to fight a Boxer under Boxing rules! Why not the other way around and see the result.
People that training in the martial arts.. Should train all the arts with boxing skills and kick boxing skills aswell. In my school we train boxing techniques with the arts and make it effective to our advantage.
Even Bruce learned by watching Muhammad Ali as far as boxing goes to enhance his fist game. But in this video people are always trying to discredit wing chun. That guy in the video isn't a master of wing chun.
It Doesn't Matter Who Wins Is Who Have Better Muscle Memory Get Excited 😇👑💯🤗😇💵
Yeah the fact that he has about a foot of reach on the other guy has nothing to do with that at all. Also if you take away the feet and elbows of a martial arts to take away a lot of their weapons.
😂 the problem with a lot of these Wing Chun practitioners, they try to hold the stance too hard 😂 The Stance is what Bruce Lee found inferior The Wing Chun, that's why he adapted more of a boxing stance to his fighting style. The Wing Chun stance is just too stiff when it comes to going against a trained fighter
This is why Bruce Lee trained in everything. Took what was useful and discarded what wasn't.
The reach on the boxer vs a very bad ??? Definitely not a master lol this means nothing
Muay Thai, kickboxing, or boxing.
Any grappling discipline
And your ready for anything
Forget about these impractical arts for self defence
Problem is most people only use Wing Chun in a school, they don't know how to use it in the street. You said it..too squared up and and eating shots, his guard also needs to be revised. Easy pickings for the boxer
Nothing about this opponment looks Wing Chun.
If they dont have their arms out, how is it Wing Chun? People dont practise on a Wooden dummy with their arms down, they have them out infront of them. To even hit the boxer he needed to get into close range to the boxer, but never did. The boxer kept him away easily and stopped even raising his arms to defend
Boxing is simple. 3 punches. So those 3 punches are done to a very high degree. No secret techniques and super-level skill moves. the stuf you do in the beginning is the stuff you will do at the end
I know nothing, but from recent viewing of information online my understanding is Wing Chun is all about fighting very close. The tall boxer had such a reach there was not going to be any of that with him. The one thing I am fairly sure of, someone trained in any form of fighting with sparing will survive fight with someone untrained.
This Wing Chinese definitely no master, he's not using any bong sounds or any simultaneous offense defense, he's not using any of his elbows to block the hooks, he's barely using his legs and when he does he's not using them right, he's not being able to judge the distance correctly, he's obviously not sparred with life Partners to learn how to apply whatever he's learned, he definitely should not be teaching if he's doing so. These people giving such a bad reputation to True Wing Chun, if Wing Chun was not good Bruce Lee would have definitely not Incorporated it into Jeet Kune Do
Sanatan Shastar Vidiya vs another martial art. Only legitimate master is Gurdev Nidar Singh Nihang. No other sanctioned teachers in these systems. Would love to see something about it, as it has high claims of oldest battlefield martial of India. Kind regards.
That's was something walking right into the right arms of the Box defense with a giving movement and VOICE That's not there respect for all ❤
Wing chun more like weak chun ..and all u bruce lee fanatics and zealots, he was not master martial artist nor a fighter nonetheless a good fighter or great, he was a movie actor mostly and cha cha champ born to a superstar dad in singing in china...
As a student of Chow Gar, I do not like to defend Wing Tsun practicioners, but what i see here is a poor example of the style. Where is his almost mandatory cover hand? Where is the Wing Tsun "接受前进的，跟随后退的，如果失去联系，就向前进攻" basic strategy? This fighter has accepted ego and panic, and has abandoned even the few useful moves the style has to offer. A more skilled proponent would have been more useful as an example. I have fought better than he, and they were not instructor level.
Tough pill to swallow. The boxer danced around the WC teacher. Lack of focus on WC teacher. Maybe moving in and out, then move to the left or right, to see what's coming from boxer. Definitely, softening up the mid section with some kicks, that might help, seeing the boxer was taller. Need to attack with kicks. Don't fight his fight, fight yours. Need footwork, be more agile "or" you get picked off. Kudos to boxing 🥊! Bruce Lee started as a boxer, won a few fights. Bruce Lee could've used his cha cha dancing in this case. But overall, an experienced boxer, look out!