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  • @bellyflopobama7006
    @bellyflopobama7006 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The amount of Funko Pops in the background isn't surprising given that this particular brand of collectibles was styled after Ms Hedland herself.

  • @drtornado5251
    @drtornado5251 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +219

    Unlisted Gang, Assemble!

    • @TactWendigo
      @TactWendigo 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Huzzah!

    • @yung_wise5861
      @yung_wise5861 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      *1000 portals open revealing nerds who have seen all of their favorite franchises burn to a pile ashe*

    • @tobee_verr
      @tobee_verr 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      oi

    • @JulianHayes-dv2ui
      @JulianHayes-dv2ui 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ahhh the true fappers

    • @gunmaham208
      @gunmaham208 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Hello

  • @randell9667
    @randell9667 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    "I'm a Mog, half man, half dog. I'm my own best friend." -John Candy(Spaceballs)

    • @italyspit5192
      @italyspit5192 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I wish John candy was still alive so he can play Barf in replacement to anyone in the show so my personal enjoyment of the show goes up tenfold

    • @randell9667
      @randell9667 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@italyspit5192 Indeed, any character to like or root for, would be nice. I couldn't care about any of them, could you?

  • @goatworm666
    @goatworm666 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Bro's name is Sol, because he is from Seoul

  • @unfilthy
    @unfilthy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    The bit in Batwoman where they all got quiet for a bit because acting was happening is proof enough that EFAP will pause for even the tiniest sliver of good in the worst cesspit of awfulness.

    • @oneisnotprime
      @oneisnotprime 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What episode was this?

    • @ritenac6770
      @ritenac6770 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@oneisnotprimeI forget the number, but it was when Luke confronted the guy who had been imprisoned for killing his dad. Shortly before the plot sniper struck again

    • @denkerbosu3551
      @denkerbosu3551 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ritenac6770 yeah, I remember this. "Quiet investment"

  • @yung_wise5861
    @yung_wise5861 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    The Boys and The Last of Us 2 inspired me to start writing via spite so the whole opening is fuel to my fire my god

    • @joelvicente1052
      @joelvicente1052 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Based

    • @yung_wise5861
      @yung_wise5861 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not even because I like the source material cause I don't. I just don't think this concept has ever been used to it's full potential except Watchmen and Invincible is alright​@@joelvicente1052

  • @Pie211
    @Pie211 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    According to Google, 2.38% of people on Earth are twins. According to Wookieepedia, there are 23 known twins in Star Wars, out of 21,647 named characters -> 0.10%. Twins are _underrepresented_ in Star Wars...

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      how in the phrik are there 21k named characters? are there books that introduce a new named character every page?

    • @lukeb8526
      @lukeb8526 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I love how this implies that there is at least one unknown twin in Star Wars...

    • @Gooch7714
      @Gooch7714 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@marcogenovesi8570maybe they count all the clones 😂

    • @HectorLopez0217
      @HectorLopez0217 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@Gooch7714200,000 units with a million on the way

    • @robertlewis6915
      @robertlewis6915 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't know what the context of this point is, but...
      1. We don't know the rate of twins in alien species.
      2. We don't know that many barely-fleshed-out characters don't have twins.
      3. The twin rate is much closer to IRL if we only consider important on-screen characters or main characters.

  • @-Azure.EXE-
    @-Azure.EXE- 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    The boys is becoming more like the comics with each episode.

    • @rhettmaxwell4860
      @rhettmaxwell4860 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Following the same fate.

    • @grandarkfang_1482
      @grandarkfang_1482 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Soon they'll both be shit for the same reason.

  • @Michael-xk3bi
    @Michael-xk3bi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There might be another layer to the idea of "These people don't care about star wars and are just using the IP to prop up their resume or tell their own story"
    What if these stories those people make in Star Wars are lackluster because they're saving any original ideas they might have for future projects that they will actaully have control over.
    In the trucking industry there's this idea that sometimes companies don't wanna hire new drivers because the new drivers will use their trucks to learn how to brake properly and then quit and find some other job now that they have experience. Leaving the old company with the bill of fixing the burned out brakes. What if that is what these shows are to these people. Something to use to get experience, their name out, etc. Until they can finally work on the thing they actually give a shut about.

  • @AmericanRollo
    @AmericanRollo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    My biggest pet peeve of modern fiction in general is the over-used trope that good and evil are two sides of a coin and you must have an equal balance of both for any kind of resolution

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The better version of that trope is "you need strength tempered by mercy". Obi-Wan was by no means a pacificist who wants to appease everyone; he always sought a balanced resolution, but if he needed to chop a guy's arm off, he wouldn't hesitate, hurt feelings be damned.
      The Sith simping "without evil, nothing gets done" was originally supposed to be a bullshit side-stepping of the fact that the Jedi were _already_ the balanced mindset.

  • @shiravalen
    @shiravalen 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I like when the Sith Lord sent his acolyte on a mission, and then hurried over to pose as a pathetic weasel for her on said mission, he's so cool.

    • @JohnSmith-zl1tr
      @JohnSmith-zl1tr 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      That could have existed in a well written show, he sends her on a mission as Superman and then appears to assist her as Clark Kent letting him remain near for emergency backup without letting her know their is a safety net, assist her in her mission with some things that might be difficult or impossible for her to do, and lets him poke a prod her to test if she actually follows his instructions and believes his teachings or just parrots them to his face.
      This show was not that show.

  • @kylefrank638
    @kylefrank638 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Gwendoline Christie was better at lying about the nuances of Captain Phasma (a character she was just sort of, handed) than Headland is at describing characters in a show she is prominently *in control of.*

  • @LordPhoton-rl4ot
    @LordPhoton-rl4ot 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    I had cortosis once, took 3 rounds of antibiotics to clear it up.

    • @Deadsnake989
      @Deadsnake989 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I love Cortosis' videos where he live critique's the fallout show with his buddies.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      if your doctor gave you Varnestra instead it would be over in a single round.

  • @HectorLopez0217
    @HectorLopez0217 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Mogg is the key to all this. If we can get Mogg working because he’s a funnier character then we ever had in Star Wars

    • @batmanvsuperman_
      @batmanvsuperman_ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      even worse, it's spelled Mog ... his parents did not love him.

    • @ghostprojekt
      @ghostprojekt 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Mark my words: Mogg is secretly Darth Plagueis and during the last episode there'll be a post credit scene where he puts on Smilo Ren's helmet and goes "My time has come... It's finally... MOGGIN' TIME!"

    • @MarkLittle-rq2bq
      @MarkLittle-rq2bq 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      *cough* Young Palpatine *cough*

    • @butnobodycame7022
      @butnobodycame7022 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mogg perfected the art of 🤫🧏

    • @vrika4280
      @vrika4280 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      So he basically became Sith lord because they named him Mog? I can accept that as canon.

  • @EndlessVacuum
    @EndlessVacuum 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Leslye Headland puts the 'junk' in 'press junket'.

  • @AmericanRollo
    @AmericanRollo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    As much as I hate the current overuse of “media literacy” as a phrase, I can’t think of a better example of media literacy being dead than taking Obi-Wan saying Vader was seduced and interpreting that as literal…

  • @Cogz
    @Cogz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    In the end, there was no frong from the fring

  • @michaelhixson6939
    @michaelhixson6939 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dycks out for Unlisted!!

  • @mrshmuga9
    @mrshmuga9 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    1:44:34 This reminded me of “balls above wang”, lol.

  • @caseytrelka0
    @caseytrelka0 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    Can someone tell Gary Nerdrotic to check out 2:26:36 ?
    Leslie Hedland says "What am I doing to these young women"
    I think he would want that clip BADLY

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      everybody needs that clip, the irony of that quote from Headlamp

    • @lordofthepizzapie9319
      @lordofthepizzapie9319 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Send it to Disparu. He'll bludgeon the show with it like he did Dr. Who with the RTD clip.

    • @deathsdoor07
      @deathsdoor07 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@lordofthepizzapie9319 wasn't he still on the podcast when she said that?

  • @samwallaceart288
    @samwallaceart288 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +112

    Batman: (is fascist rich man who beats up poor people)
    Also Batman: (his most famous enemies include the 1%er Court of Owls cabal, prestigious scientist Mr. Freeze, multiple millionaire crime bosses, and the fucking District Attorney.)

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Not to mention all the god-like beings he fights with the Justice League.

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@Lobsterwithinternet If you think about it, Darkseid is kinda anti-establishment

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@samwallaceart288 Not really.
      More like he’s pro-his establishment.
      Edit: Gitta remember he's the living embodiment of Tyranny itself, so he's really lawful evil.

    • @lordofthepizzapie9319
      @lordofthepizzapie9319 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@@samwallaceart288 I can believe these kinds of people think wanting to supplant the will of all life with your own is anti-establishment.

    • @hkaayaakuu
      @hkaayaakuu 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It took me a while to understand " new orifices "😂

  • @samwallaceart288
    @samwallaceart288 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2:26:42 Leslye worried about involving kids in Star Wars fandom "what am i doing to these young women?"
    Former assistant to HW. Worried that child actors are endangered. Worried that _the fans_ are what's endangering them.
    Hollywood, with its well-attested history of abusing kids in every way imaginable. And she's calling _us_ the bigger danger.
    If the dynamics were flipped this would be a career-ending insult.

  • @AmericanRollo
    @AmericanRollo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Morbius memes led to the film getting a second theatrical release. Thats how much power the internet can have 😂

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      "Review-bombing" and "harassment" over some character design made Sonic the Hedgehog a sleeper-hit with upcoming 3rd installment

    • @AmericanRollo
      @AmericanRollo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@samwallaceart288 Took what would have been a massive blow to game adaptations and made it into a solid stepping stone to where we are now for sure.

  • @samwallaceart288
    @samwallaceart288 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've been in writing meetings with people who talk like Mrs. Headland. Nothing gets done, listening to that. Buzzwords, "this person said that and it really resonated with me", cool themes of twins and bad; -- yknow, useless shit that has nothing to do with writing, while the people under them bust their ass trying to figure out what any of this shit means

  • @thethirdman8116
    @thethirdman8116 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    fans: "What Disney is doing to Star Wars is abominable."
    Screen Rant: "Would you rather have a dead son or a living daughter?"

    • @MarkLittle-rq2bq
      @MarkLittle-rq2bq 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do they mean 'dead son' like 'Luke' or a 'living daughter' like Osha/Mae?...hmmm, can I think about it first? I mean, it's a pretty tough choice...I'm leaning towards the 'dead son', but there's still two episodes to go. My answer may change!...though I doubt it.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      fans: yes

    • @narpassword5675
      @narpassword5675 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      My wife cheated on me so the daughter isn't mine. I'll take my losses and leave.

    • @mrshmuga9
      @mrshmuga9 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      These writers have such contempt for their audience. Talking down to them like a parent telling their child they have to eat their vegetables or they won’t get dessert.

    • @GunbladeKnight
      @GunbladeKnight 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarkLittle-rq2bq It's a way of emotionally manipulating parents to groom their kids.

  • @idogtv
    @idogtv 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    An Unlisted Gang member watches without a "Live" status. An Unlisted Gang member... views the stream (when it's offline).

    • @Cogz
      @Cogz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@idogtv unlisted, as all things should be

    • @BlackMoridin
      @BlackMoridin 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Si, like a real fan... usually also drunk after a night of fun 😂😇

    • @dmac3183
      @dmac3183 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Usually because I fall asleep live and relisten again in the morning.

    • @mynameisNeo369
      @mynameisNeo369 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yo I thought I imagined this live when I woke up a few minutes ago when I went on mooler to look. Luckily I had it under my liked tabs, I'm ignorant how this happens?

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Download and listen to it while walking.

  • @Lobsterwithinternet
    @Lobsterwithinternet 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    1:12:41 I say it's more like that scene from Blazing Saddles where the Sheriff takes himself hostage by pointing a gun to his head and threatening to shoot.

  • @MrFolktacular
    @MrFolktacular 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Here’s how you can make the death of Jecki(?) contribute slightly more to Smilo’s character; have him appear a little sad or disappointed that he had to kill her. Don’t have him call her ‘it’. “You brought her here” has no weight when Smilo seems like he has no problems with killing her in the first place. Maybe even have his fight with her be an obvious mismatch, similar to Luke and Vader on Bespin; he has no trouble in fending her off and keeps easily taking her out of the fight without attempting to kill her, but when Sol joins in, the numbers game starts to tell, so Smilo commits to taking Jecki out permanently. Give us something!

  • @Ultimaterockmanx135
    @Ultimaterockmanx135 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just realized that "seduce" probably had double meaning as well in episode 6. Osha says she failed her training so she might want the easy way, power to use the force which he could offer potentially. The showrunner screwed up putting it in words.

  • @johnmchugh8049
    @johnmchugh8049 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    There is a bizarre beauty to the fact that sometime in the podcast one of the EFAP guys mentioned 12 angry men, because Disney Star Wars fans definitely remind me of juror number 12

  • @WebHeadMike
    @WebHeadMike 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unlisted!
    Can't wait for EFAP for House of the Dragon

  • @vex1669
    @vex1669 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Wondering who the real bad guy is? My prediction is: It was us (the audience) all along!

  • @beardofpower3823
    @beardofpower3823 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Jeremy Johns refered to whats his face as Smilo Ren in his episode 6 review. If only he had credited the longman...

  • @mummifiedgamer
    @mummifiedgamer 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You know why they don't make a funko pop of headland? Because if they did she couldn't tell which one is she.

  • @randell9667
    @randell9667 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    3:51:13 it's obvious that she put such little effort into her characters that she cannot even come up with their motivations, even simple ones, or ambitions from a generic question. How can this person consider herself a writer?

  • @carmenphillips6591
    @carmenphillips6591 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The reason why many people, myself included, thought that the balance in the force was about numbers: I was about 10 when I saw Return of the Jedi in the theater. It is important to state that it was only the third movie in the franchise and we had no idea what was going to be in the prequels. All of the context of the force and Jedi was contained in those three movies and in my child brain it did seem very much that it was about numbers. At the end of the movie there was only Luke and the two sith so when Vader yeeted (and killed ie no coming back from that) Palpatine the force was now balanced with only two users. It can be difficult to change what we learn in our formative years especially if it is something emotional such as a perspective about a beloved movie franchise

  • @eagleactual321
    @eagleactual321 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I genuinely don't know if I can get through this one. Jedi Brooks won't shut up.

  • @unfilthy
    @unfilthy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I really wish Jedi Brooks would reduce the number of times he cuts people off or speaks over them. It's not as bad with the EFAP crew, but when he cuts off Jon it bothers me a lot, because Jon speaks relatively rarely and often only when he has an actual thought he wants to examine, and he doesn't elbow his way to the front, so, to me, it feels more rude to interrupt him.

  • @mandos6145
    @mandos6145 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Regardless of what you think of moon knight, Oscar Isaac plays the same character 2 different ways better than Amanda with an L plays 2 entirely different people

  • @deathsdoor07
    @deathsdoor07 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm glad I never watched Russian Doll after watching this interview.

  • @kayne8222
    @kayne8222 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Has Leslie seen her own show? None of what she says is shown in the series

  • @emuman09
    @emuman09 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Maybe he misspoke but.... Jedi brooks not knowing that jedis DO male their own lightsaber was pretty bad lol.

    • @verazollinger6862
      @verazollinger6862 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Not his first mistake, I don't like having him on efap

    • @emuman09
      @emuman09 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@verazollinger6862 whats you're reasons for not having him on EFAP?

    • @verazollinger6862
      @verazollinger6862 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@emuman09 he really lacks knowledge

    • @Gooch7714
      @Gooch7714 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@verazollinger6862you really expect him to be a Star Wars lore master?

    • @verazollinger6862
      @verazollinger6862 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Gooch7714 no Ryan is lor master, this is just basic knowledge. I don't need a guy on podcast each time not knowing basic things. He had no idea what medichlorans are... Sorry, but I don't want a normie

  • @jamogable
    @jamogable 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Kelnaca probably had khyber allergy, dying because of a lightsaber nick

  • @TheNoonish
    @TheNoonish 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Being a human audience member is the only thing that grants me joy in life.

  • @solanumlycopersicum5594
    @solanumlycopersicum5594 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you check out the EU on the topic of the balance between light and dark, you will find the Gray Jedi.
    They are prominently covered in the KOTOR games, especially the second one.
    In the EU books, starting really with the first one (Thrawn Trilogy), Luke begins doubting the Jedi way, while he attempts to follow it.
    Example: He questions how the jedi mind trick would not be an application of the dark side, as it is an invasion into the mind of another, and a breaking of their will.
    Even in the movies he rejects both Yoda's teachings, by rushing to help his friends, and the offer of power by the Emperor.
    In the EU, he later founds the New Jedi Order, as something distinct from the Jedi of old.
    This is done in a way more intelligent way of course than "You teach CHILDREN!!!".^^
    Both the Jedi and the Sith follow philosophical codes, one being of passions and one being of detachment. You can easily find faults with both.
    I recommend the video "The Philosophy of Kreia" on TH-cam.

  • @theboredguy2107
    @theboredguy2107 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    7 hour video, im there.

  • @foobloo101
    @foobloo101 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That room she's in is 100% fake. The shelves are the kind you find in a storage room.

  • @emuman09
    @emuman09 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Did she seriously say...as the show runner " wether you're excited by that or not, thats not my business".....lady thats your damn job, to make people excited about your story! This lady is nuts

  • @stryfe0
    @stryfe0 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    4:00:55 someone in the live chat said she’s a professional victim 😂💀

  • @DarthQueefious
    @DarthQueefious 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Hilarious that in the era of 'muh fenimism' both Disney female Jedi protagonists end up thirsting for mass murderers who had just murdered someone close to them

  • @drewk424
    @drewk424 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No more Jedi Brooks please, one Rags is intolerable enough. Having two people who just repeat things Mauler says, or state the most obvious things repeatedly without insight or a unique perspective is not something I wish to endure. You don't need to speak, just to hear yourself speak, only speak when you have something valuable to add to the conversation.
    Thanks.

  • @piscenicprodigy8816
    @piscenicprodigy8816 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The funniest part to me about the smilo ren "twist", a much better option would have been to just make it some random guy we've never seen before. He wears a mask because he has a relatively normal life outside of jedi murder, and wants to be able to return to it after all is said and done. You know, normal mask things.

  • @slaapt
    @slaapt 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    1:30:00
    You know it isn't a room in her house that always looks like this because the shelves have the minimum amount of stuff on it to not look bare.
    A real setup would be tighter, have more stuff, and more importantly, also have other stuff. A real room wouldn't be just Star Wars. It would have LEGO and stuff from other franchises as well.

  • @Cole99v
    @Cole99v 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Nobody knows where the boys is even going. What is the plan for the story.

  • @mellowgeekstudio
    @mellowgeekstudio 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    01:47:30 The twins she was talking about are Leia and Han' children, the whole thing started when she was talking about characters that they love from legends that are decanonized and then she says "oh my twins!".

  • @donsambo5488
    @donsambo5488 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A: Aweful racist of them to put that stereotype in there
    B: Imagine Smile-O helicoptering and it works like hypno toad on all the jedi
    C: Mel Brooks should write the parody where Smile-O's hot dog is a stand in for Medusa's gaze lol.

  • @deathsdoor07
    @deathsdoor07 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    @ 5:17:05, don't you dare write the show for them, MauLer.

    • @lankeastor512
      @lankeastor512 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The people that Disney hires are too full of themselves and directionless (in life) to ever take feedback or input from someone who knows more than them.
      Mauler’s ideas are safe.

  • @jankostrhun8725
    @jankostrhun8725 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly I'd much rather see a procedural drama about canonicity that Mauler described than any Disney Wars "content" .

  • @serioush
    @serioush 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I suspect the people at Disney are similar to the people I have to work with.
    Designers that need to design the details for software, all aspects, then only ever design visuals, yet refuse to let other people design function.

  • @wam3863
    @wam3863 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The Twins, I think, she is referring to are the light and dark side twins on that planet from Clone Wars. Ryan would know more. 1:41:59

    • @camillecunningham7348
      @camillecunningham7348 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I remember them, that clears that up. I was very confused when she said that.

    • @YikersGrossout
      @YikersGrossout 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Also jacen and jaina solo, as well as some twins from the old republic.

    • @Necromancer4267
      @Necromancer4267 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Hedland absolutely has no idea what she's talking about, but I'm sure she's talking about Jacen and Jaina.

    • @TheL0ngbeard
      @TheL0ngbeard 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would not be so sure she knows about any of that.

  • @Necrow_Productions
    @Necrow_Productions 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    The fact that they think twins are a core element to Star Wars are missing the point of Star Wars. There are many MANY things and themes that make Star Wars what it is. It's also silly to think that all force twins should be special.

    • @misterjohn2
      @misterjohn2 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Twins are a core element of George writing himself into a corner in 1982 😂

    • @AfutureV
      @AfutureV 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Honestly the only thing I think is core to Star Wars is space. Lightsabers, Jedi, Sith, The Force are very important, but you can very much write a SW story without any of them and still make it fit.

    • @Arphemius
      @Arphemius 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AfutureV By that logic, you don't necessarily need "space", as in outside an atmosphere, either. So that's also not a "core" element.

    • @AfutureV
      @AfutureV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Arphemius No, I actually do mean that if a story does not show space, to me it can not be Star Wars.

    • @Arphemius
      @Arphemius 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AfutureV You mean if you saw a movie about a jedi taking down a criminal organization in the underground of Coruscant, never leaving the atmosphere though, that's not SW? Sure.

  • @Necromancer4267
    @Necromancer4267 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You know, Hitler turned out to be very anti-establishment.

    • @Necromancer4267
      @Necromancer4267 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Which is obviously also what the Allies are, and the Underground Railroad.

  • @BunkerAnon
    @BunkerAnon 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Stuff like this as with the She-Hulk Showrunner makes me very much doubt their writing creds. They are just a Biff and bully others to do their work and just retype it later.

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She talks about her project like she wrote it in post-it notes and threw it to an assistant to figure out the rest

    • @BunkerAnon
      @BunkerAnon 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samwallaceart288 doubt even that much as little she is aware of anything that happens in the show.

    • @BunkerAnon
      @BunkerAnon 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samwallaceart288 doubt even that much as little she is aware of anything that happens in the show.

  • @Vaelosh466
    @Vaelosh466 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Acolyte and Ashoka were algorithm gold apparently, but what's the excuse going to be for the next show is just not talked about at all?

  • @nautdead3197
    @nautdead3197 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If it wasn't obvious before that interview makes it so clear she put no thought into what she was making and has no care for star wars

  • @la_scrittice_vita
    @la_scrittice_vita 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The weird laughing and smiling reactions: no joke, that's a psychopath. Look up psychologists breaking down an interview with the con woman "fake heiress" Anna Delvey and you will see the exact same inappropriate mirth and similar reactions to having caused "drama" (headland's word) or much worse. It's serious malignant narcissist territory.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      it's pretty normal for deflection and lying while trying to fake confidence (very poorly). Psychos also deflect and lie but a lot of people also do.

    • @tannhausergate7162
      @tannhausergate7162 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@marcogenovesi8570 Yeah, but we also know some of her history. Feeding women to a pig like Harvey is a bit of a clue that she doesn't have any sort of empathy or morals.

    • @nautdead3197
      @nautdead3197 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Personal assistant to Harvey wienstien

  • @TheGarywolfbarron8
    @TheGarywolfbarron8 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Young Ahsoka also played young Gamora in Infinity War. I am sure we will see her again... a lot.
    Young Mae and Osha... probably not.

  • @canaldecasta
    @canaldecasta 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Look at you, unlisted.

  • @TheNoonish
    @TheNoonish 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Ugh. Lesley Headland wants THIS story to be the reason jedi don't take children under a certain age. Lady, if that's the case, you need to figure out how the Jedi were operating successfully for hundreds of years prior to this incident and what their normal protocols are to figure out what causes a change. You clearly don't know the ground state you're working with and you don't know how it works in the prequel era, so how can you POSSIBLY be writing about a pivotal moment that causes a fundamental shift?
    If you want to write about how a central element of a system is altered, you should at least understand the basic workings of the system. Your answers indicate you just have no idea about what any of this looks like on a normal day. It's a shocking lack of interest in telling a story.

    • @TheL0ngbeard
      @TheL0ngbeard 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      On top of that, the child they took grew up normal, while the one they didn't take grew up to be a psycho killer. Would that not be an indication that they should have brought both of them in?

    • @TheNoonish
      @TheNoonish 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheL0ngbeard that’s what MauLer said in this discussion, though I’d be willing to grant that the death of 100 or so witches is a good enough reason for the Jedi to re-evaluate things. But this is all done so poorly that it feels like this is the first time the jedi have ever encountered another group of Force users, which it simply can’t be in a group that has been around this long. This writer has no idea about how a sophisticated organization works and no interest in exploring them as a concept.

  • @Resijew
    @Resijew 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    5:46:22 Rags obviously joking here, but in reality we kind of did try that with the Cold War. Only it wasn’t balance it was humanity being a single button press away from complete and utter annihilation

  • @joshearnest6742
    @joshearnest6742 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why do they keep letting Brooks on? Does anyone actually enjoy him or his…”contributions”?

    • @silenceyouidiot
      @silenceyouidiot 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What does he not contribute that Rags or Marc does?

    • @Gooch7714
      @Gooch7714 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I like him

    • @TheOutlawMan
      @TheOutlawMan 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's fine, seems like a pleasant fellow

    • @joshearnest6742
      @joshearnest6742 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fair enough, I stand corrected

  • @Necromancer4267
    @Necromancer4267 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Every Jedi ever birthed in all of human history is a Jedi pre or post Yavin. That's both sides of a singular point in time.

  • @YikersGrossout
    @YikersGrossout วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont blame you guys for not reading EU but fuck some things in that interview would of made so much more since. I really wish ryan would of been here. Over all though trash interview and a great episode of efap

  • @tracey5745
    @tracey5745 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    If we could just have jedi brooks shut his mouth for just an hour I would so happy.

  • @sigy4ever
    @sigy4ever 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    i agree looking up wookiepedia should of been standard but they are already changing it so soon enough looking up wookiepedia will be bad

  • @masterphillips
    @masterphillips 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Protein in urine, that is all.

  • @TheGarywolfbarron8
    @TheGarywolfbarron8 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    George Lucas directing the young actors about to be killed by Anakin...
    Hilarious!

  • @samwallaceart288
    @samwallaceart288 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "I see cringe ahead! . . ."
    --Fringolas Greenfleem, 1:03:11

  • @paulroser4069
    @paulroser4069 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Cant make a proper satire of something you hate.

  • @yetanotherspuart3993
    @yetanotherspuart3993 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sith apprentices:
    Rag-Lo
    Maul-Lo
    Fring-Lo
    Wolif-Lo
    The Don-Lo

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Alt: Darth Ragusessus
      Mau-Lo Long
      Fringo Frongo
      and
      The Don Supreme

  • @justPLEASE_579
    @justPLEASE_579 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Being unlisted is gay and not gay at the same time

    • @lukew6725
      @lukew6725 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Schrödinger's homosexual.

  • @narpassword5675
    @narpassword5675 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Headland's laughing comes across as a nervous tick, something to show that she heard the comment and now has to search for an answer that might be fitting, but she struggles to put thoughts into words and can only buy so much time with her laughter. I do something similar, as I struggle socially.

    • @mariusvanc
      @mariusvanc 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Huh? It's not like she just learned about it yesterday or didn't know she would be asked it.

    • @lankeastor512
      @lankeastor512 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ahh yes. The hallmark of good writers. They struggle to put their thoughts into words.
      The fact somebody else didnt get hired because of her is insane.

  • @Rickmagnus911
    @Rickmagnus911 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What does "take pride in your work" even mean?
    - Lesbian Headlamp

  • @Draanor
    @Draanor 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There's no reason to believe that a child becoming a Jedi wouldn't be considered a high honor and a cause for celebration in the family, it's not like there's not historical examples of this in human history. Why would they think becoming a Jedi is a prison sentence? Also I'd imagine being an untrained force user would probably be quite distressing as you'd probably have uncontrolled visions, feeling people's emotions around you, harming people around you because you have telekinesis, etc so training would be a necessary just to have a normal existence, there's really no reason to believe that people wouldn't be voluntarily seeking out the Jedi when their child is force sensitive to seek help.

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah other than cutting them off from the family, it's viewed like kids getting to go to Hogwarts

  • @shiravalen
    @shiravalen 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Jedi abstaining from attachment is hard to imagine for regular people, but Zen/Buddhist practitioners (fairly analogous to Jedi training, I would say) are also alien to regular people. And if it isn't expected for a master Jedi to be able to significantly mitigate typical emotional reactions even to comrades being killed before them, then the Jedi way is pretty much useless and built on false promises. It would be difficult to portray usefully, but I'd expect a kind of inward preoccupation as they managed their inner efforts, if not being so masterful as to be pretty much unfazed by it, rather than just emoting like a regular person. Even soldiers are at least somewhat emotionally girded against the tragedies of battle, far more than someone who's not. They've mentally adjusted their expectations to anticipate the worst, in every battle, so they can continue acting pragmatically no matter what happens. These civilian reactions of characters in very non-civilian roles just undermines these aspects of the story.
    I understand that Jedi tranquility could easily just appear as wooden non-acting, and make it hard for typical connecting with the audience, but some attention to this would lend the material some much appreciated depth.
    Also, as a side note, 'non-attachment' can also refer to allowing yourself natural emotional responses to things, but letting it come and go and not holding onto that itself. In other words, 'acceptance' taken to the fullest degree; casting off of egoistic 'clinging'. That could potentially allow for some degree of connections. I'm not 100% sure which 'lack of attachment' is meant by the Jedi way, but this is a possible expression of it, that is more relatable and 'human'. In Sol's case, it would probably be more like a subdued sorrow, with frustration and anger being basically absent. He'd probably have to meditate extra to attend to it properly, but I don't think he'd allow it to distract his awareness and self-control in its throes. The meditation and training is pre-laying the groundwork, so there needn't be the reactive turmoil when the terrible circumstance arises. Again, though, understandably tricky to fully convey on-screen.

    • @isaaclivesay2432
      @isaaclivesay2432 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Aight but how ascetic is it to leave a bunch of lightsabers in the woods?

  • @KaNoMikoProductions
    @KaNoMikoProductions 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    3:52:10
    Okay guys, calm the fuck down. She obviously means that "humanity" as a characteristic in fiction, is a weird term to use when in a setting filled with other sapient species that display the same breadth of emotions and depth as humans. She's not saying that there's no humanity in Star Wars.

  • @1701EarlGrey
    @1701EarlGrey 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    12:28 - this thing about Batman being fascist hunting down poor people is not only wrong but boring as well. For starters Bruce originally become Batman to free Gotham from the rule of mafia families; Carmine, Maroni etc. and we all know that people from mafia are very poor 😅Other than that Batman fight insane criminals which often don't care about financial gains at all - so you can say that poverty lead them to crime. I wonder what those progressive writers would say knowing that in the beginning of Knightfall story Batman saved entire school of young woman from Mr. Zsasz - not so long ago MauLer played Arkham games, so he knows how lovely this guy is... Don't those progressive writers don't wanna save lives of young woman? As for fascist angle; I remember story called Golem of Gotham" in which Batman was investigating and trying to stop activity of neo-nazi terrorists in Gotham - but sure Batman is a fascist and those neo-nazists were just poor people... 😅As for kinky site of Batman - sure there is Catwoman but other than that I don't see much of conection.

  • @hiddelsubbledees458
    @hiddelsubbledees458 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Did Leslie even write/watch her own show? She clearly doesnt know what shes talking about

  • @craigr2592
    @craigr2592 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Mauler, your discord invite link is invalid. Expired?

  • @Sokko325
    @Sokko325 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think the 'seduced by the dark side' thing means she didn't know what seduced meant at all when she was a kid and later in life she learned the sexual use. I'm not sure she knows it's other uses.

  • @Arphemius
    @Arphemius 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    35:30 Oof, bad take. Them not having super powers absolutely sucked, it directly led to the "girls get it done" moment because the "Boys" are, as humans, completely useless. In the comics, they had powers from the start and it was the supes that were completely useless for the most part, because they had inconsistent powers, no training and were mentally unstable. Instead of just making the supes more of a threat, they also made the Boys weak and therefore created a new imbalance. Which had to be corrected by new supers coming in to save the day, making this basically just another superhero show, instead of the opposite, which is what it was meant to be.

  • @VaporSulla
    @VaporSulla 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The Boys season 4 is abysmal, I endured until episode 5 just for curiosity (the super carnivorous sheeps were fun, still botched like everything else) but episode 6 broke me. I'm done with the show.

  • @TheL0ngbeard
    @TheL0ngbeard 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    5:08:00 that didn't just happen... no way... I was joking about how they are so stupid and shallow that when they heard "seduced by the dark side" they don't get the metaphorical meaning, but just the direct sexual one. She confirmed that's actually what happened with her. No wonder the shows follow a pattern of "think of the stupidest possible thing that could happen and that (or something even worse) is what happens"

  • @mellowgeekstudio
    @mellowgeekstudio 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    52:20 Fringy missed Leslye's extreme narcisism here. The "perhaps" was meant to cast doubt if the audience score and review were ever reliable at all.

  • @MrNoscopeJones
    @MrNoscopeJones 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not even really true that there was a time where new Star Wars wasn't made for years. No new movies sure, but there were always books and video games and RPG sourcebooks coming out, pretty much from the mid-80s on.

  • @Flummoxed_Buffoon87
    @Flummoxed_Buffoon87 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My boys

  • @TheKanistan
    @TheKanistan 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    fringy is fwrong

  • @SuperKillJoy15
    @SuperKillJoy15 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6:32:00 its all projection, they ONLY like these shows because they see it through the lenses of race, sex, sexuality, etc. Its all they see so anyone disliking the shows must dislike them for the same reasons they like them.

  • @John21WoW
    @John21WoW 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can people please stop spreading the Jack Gleeson myth? That is 100% fake, I heard him say himself it's fake at comiccon and after a simple google search you can find he gave up for a while on acting because... he was a freacking kid and wanted to focus on school for a while...

  • @NYWunWuns
    @NYWunWuns 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Boys season 4…starlight apparently had an abortion with Hughie which gets brought to light by the far right chick on her show. There was no set up for her having an abortion and that is a very emotional decision that the boys just said “fuck it. This happened off screen somehow,” just so they can talk about abortions since that’s a big topic in politics right now.