Lamy 2000 - Fine and Medium Nib Comparisons
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- Recently purchased a Lamy 2000 (F) and (M); comparing nib sizes with a Lamy Safari (M) and Delta Unica w/Franklin-Christoph nib (M) on Tomoe River Paper, Mnemosyne, Rhodia, and Leuchtturm papers.
L2k fine =0.4mm, l2k m=0.6mm, safari m=0.5mm.
Great video.. I just placed an order for Lamy 2000 in F. Love this pen so much that this will my second one. Love your handwriting.
Thanks so much! The really is a fantastic pen, the nib is a joy to write with.
This is helpful, I just wish I had watched this a few weeks ago! Bought the medium nib for Christmas and I am regretting not going for the fine.
Is there any way to return or exchange for the fine nib? If not, it's very easy to sell a Lamy 2000, I see them sold all the time over on the pen_swap subreddit!
@@inkfade4281 I managed to return it and got the fine nib, it's perfect for me now. Thanks for the advice.
I too made the same mistake
I am going for pelikan m1000. This one I will buy an ef only
Thank you for this helpful comparison video! I’ll opt for the medium.
Thanks very much for a great video, it was really interesting and surprising to see the difference between the nibs. I would never have thought that the 2000's medium nib would be so 'broad.' I love the wet nibs. x
Yeah the Lamy 2000s tend to be quite wet anyway, which make them write a little more broadly than what size they claim to be lol. Love the wet pens, too! I love watching the ink come out of the nib and pool on the page.
I just ordered the aubergine ink. Gorgeous. Love the document violet too. I will own a Lamy 2000.. I love the fine.
Oh man I bet you'll love it. It's such a smooth and deliciously velvety purple. The 2000 is a fantastic pen, can't go wrong with it!
@@inkfade4281 I ended up going with the M nib, and I love it. Great vid. I might want a fine nib now 😂
Thanks for this. I just received my Lamy 2k medium and if feels a little too thick. Seeing videos mentioning “nib creep” have made me aware of the ink I see on the nib after I’ve wiped it off-but since it’s only on the nib-not the pen-I can live with it. I’ll use Q-tip every now and again to blot it up. I actually like the look of the fourth pen over all of them-it might be the darker ink. I think it helps to use same ink in all samples so we can compare 🍎 to 🍎. At the end of the day I feel satisfied with my purchase. 🙏🏾👍🏾
Beautiful Handwriting! I think the lamy 2000 fine looks more like a medium compared to a platinum preppy fine. Nice comparison. Look forward to more of the same. Subbed 😊👍
She does have a gorgeous handwriting and writing so quickly! Amazing!
Very good video, I think I am definitely going to go with the Lamy 2000 F. My one suggestion would be to add in basic copy paper in future comparison videos.
I noticed that the ink heavily influences how broad the 2000 writes. With jacque herbin wetter ink, it writes like a broad. But with pelikan thicker ink it writes a true medium.
I too like De Atramentis Inks but find some hard to control. I finally put a Goulet EF nib in my Narwal Nautilus and it is a beautiful ink but still writes like a fine or even a medium-fine. Heather Vito is another of they inks that I enjoy, but have to choose pen, nib and paper carefully. Thanks for a great video.
3 years later I had the same issue, then I fell on your video. Thank you!
I actually purchase one fine from Big Pen and they are kind enough to swap it for me.
Great service, I love Big Pen in Sweden.
Of course the 2000 are not 130$ anymore...
Actually, I’m about to pull the trigger on a medium nibbed Lamy 2000 for 139 on Amazon. It was 138 a few days ago.
@@audacious6312 $127 yesterday! I got fine for $125 though. I want medium so I got fine hoping my nib will be on the broader side. Fingers crossed
What an amazing handwriting!
Very useful comparison! I’d love to see more like this. I appreciate other types of reviews, but lots of people do writing samples in all capital bold letters, or writing super large; which is not useful to me as someone who journals in those regular dot grid/grid notebooks within the lines in cursive. I can never tell when someone is writing so large whether the cursive loops get too tight in the M/B nibs I’m interested in.
Thank you, I'm so happy this video was useful to you!! That's one of the reasons I did this video. I always have trouble with finding info on nib comparisons exactly for the reasons you describe. It's helpful when comparisons are written normally on paper most people use lol.
It would be interesting to see how these write on ordinary, crappy paper.
The 2000 Fine nib seems like the perfect fit for my tastes, since I prefer Japanese Mediums (0.45-0.5) and Fine Mediums (0.35-0.4mm).
Thanks for the video. Making the decision between fine and medium now. I do think that the fine is more of a medium and hence a true Western fine. Going to go with that one, I think you would be able to get a nice line for copy paper with Lamy crystal ink and a wetter flow with Iroshizuku and hence more versatile than the medium.
The Lamy Crystal ink, in my experience (granted, limited, as I've only tried three), is super wet, so I'd think that might widen the line you're going for a bit in your fine 2000. Might be prone to feathering if you're using regular copy paper. I have not tried Iroshizuku in my Lamy 2000 yet, so I can't speak to that brand.
@@inkfade4281 very interesting, have had opposite experience so far! Can very much recommend Iroshizuku, definitely make some of my favourite inks. Will keep you posted, fine nibbed 2k is on the way!
I’m totally on the fence between M and F.
Did you get a fine? How is it?
@@joebeamish got a fine and never went back. Looking to get an EF next if anything.
Your demonstration shows me the issues that plague a writer who has a definite preference for a particular line width. As a fan of Pelikan, I struggled to find exactly which nib would best suite my taste without actually being able to try one out. It’s obvious that quality and colour of paper from one brand to another as well as the selection of inks (wet or dry) and colours have an effect on what you see. My handwriting size and style tend to change slightly from one pen to another (Pelikan - Sailor - Waterman - Pilot). Finding the right nib in the pen of your choice with an acceptable paper and ink can be a long but enjoyable journey. Enjoy the trip!
Plague is a good word for the struggle haha. Now that Tomoe is being discontinued, I am searching for another suitable paper for myself. Likely going to go with Cosmo Air Light, which I feel is a tiny bit more absorbent so all my pens write just a tad thicker on it, which I don't know how to feel about since I spent so long deciding on certain nib widths, and tuning my own nibs to write how I wanted on Tomoe. One good thing is that Cosmo doesn't show sheen very well, so that's a plus I guess.
L2K is my all time favorite pen.
Great looking inks! I typically use Diamine in mine. But will try DeAtrementis for sure.
Have a Lamy and Parker fountain pens .The only pens I use now kind to the environment will last a lifetime if looked after well. Plus great video
Line width is a very personal choice, and the comparisons are helpful. It would have also been helpful to see the papers side-by-side as well as the ink flow. I am finding that the paper used has a LOT to do with the ink flow and appearance, both in width and in shading characteristics. Thanks for doing the video for us.
I actually recorded a comparison video a couple of days ago and have it scheduled to post either Wednesday or Thursday, I can't remember, so that one won't have the paper side by side, but I will definitely keep that in mind for future comparison videos! Thanks so much for your feedback!
I also bought the fine first - then the medium. I have noticed, though, that they get too wet when I use Pilot Iroshizuku. So I only use Lamy inks in them, now.
Very very good video. RS
Thanks! very helpful...I’ve actually been deciding between the medium and broad...I like both in Lamy steel nibs...so the medium 2000 looks in-between maybe leaning towards my polished adjusted broad. 👍
I love my Lamy 2000 "M".
It's a good looking keeper.
Very Bauhaus form & function.
Timeless design.
Just try writing "She sells sea shells by the sea shore"
The nib just slays the swirls, loops, dips and rises.
It's like it has a life of its own.
They are wonderful pens!! I love the aesthetic of them, clean and basic. I use an EF 2000 now instead of the fine and medium in this video, and while there is a narrower sweet spot, it still writes beautifully!
@@inkfade4281 hey, thank you. How is the EF nib to write ? Not scratchy?
I have a Platinum Century 3776 Bourgogne in UEF.
While it's a good writer, with no skips and also offers line variation when I grip it softer, my only grouse is, it doesn't glorify the ink! All ink appears same. No sheen. No splendour. But i like it anyway because at feather grip, the nib offers misty, whispery fine lines that never stops....it's amazing! Wish I was a Manga artist, then it'll be great to draw in monochrome.
@@inkfade4281i blind bought the EF because the regular medium on my alstar is a bit blown up for me 😂 i love it so far!
Love your review too much. I just decided but Lamy 2000 B cause I like the big nib too. Thank you. I subcribed your chanel and followed your new reviews.
Thank you for the video. I'm on the fence of getting a Lamy 2000. I own a Lamy Safari & CP1 for 10+ years, and I always thought they produce thicker line till I learned from other review, the vertical angle makes great difference. I wonder if it's the can case for Lamy 2000. I plan to get an EF Lamy 2000, since I prefer to write small, it would be wonderful if you could help varify the difference. Thank you.
Very interested and valuable review
Greetings! Thank you for this video. Would you still lean towards the medium? I have the medium as of yesterday but, like others, think that the fine might have been better. The feedback on the Safari makes for more of a precise feel. Cheers 🙏
I'm trying to decide whether to buy another Lamy 2000 and what nib to get. I bought one years ago with a medium nib and I never used it. The lines were too wide for my small writing and it's sweet spot was annoying. I think the fine might be too wide for me also. I want a 2000 to use as an every-day writer on all kinds of paper.
I understand if this comment gets lost or unread but I'm torn between these two because I write in a journal and prefer neat handwriting but I'd believe this medium nib would make the writing look sloppy just because of how bold it writes. For reference how would you compare both of these to say a pilot G2 or something to reference? Thanks!
Sorry for the late reply! I'd say the Lamy 2000 medium nib writes more closely to a Pilot G2 1.0 gel pen. Maybe even a little broader if you use a wet ink. I do think bolder nibs might make writing look a little sloppier, I have to work to not have big loopy writing when writing with bolder nibs since the pen just wants to go everywhere haha.
@@inkfade4281 thank you!
Interesting that the Safari M with the same ink as the 2000 M seems to write slightly darker and slightly crisper.
I got a Lamy 2000 broad nib. Holy. Cow. It is broad. I am still trying to find an ink that works for it and trying to modify my handwriting to fit with the broad... I should just sell it and buy a medium probably, I just feel like there should be a place in my collection for the broad nib.
I imagine you have to have pretty big handwriting to accommodate the 2000 broad nib! I feel I did not have to change my handwriting to fit my medium 2000 nib, but then again I do not write very small anyway. If the broad nibs are too big I wouldn't force a spot in the collection for it, since you might not use that pen as much because of the nib. Of course, by that logic you might miss out on some pretty cool nibs lol.
I’d found De Atramentis inks quite dry. I love the Aubergine or Alexander Hamilton (as it’s otherwise known) ink in my fine 2k but it certainly writes much broader with wetter inks like Pilot Iroshizuku.
That is so strange! All the DA inks I've tried have been super wet. I'm not as familiar with Iro inks, as I've only tried a few of them and that was quite a while ago so I don't remember whether I considered them dry or wet.
This kind of comparison of various nib sizes are rarely seen whereas there are lots of videos of unboxing, a sample writing, description of the pen material etc. Anyway I missed this video and ended up buying a medium 2000.I would have bought a fine or even an ef had I seen this before. Will you do a similar video on pelikan m1000 souveran nibs.
That's why I've made a few videos like this comparing nibs, because I find those videos somewhat unhelpful haha. I'm so sorry I don't own any m1000s they'd be too big and heavy for me!
Hello may I ask. For the Lamy Fine, does it write like a 0.5 or a 0.7 ballpoint pen? And does the Medium write like a 1.0?
Also, which is smoother?
A year has passed and I've since sold my Lamy 2000ef. I have a medium on order now!
The medium 2000 definitely is wider than a 1.0 ballpoint. The fine 2000 is slightly wider than the line my Papermate Joy 100 ballpoint puts down, which is a 1.0 ballpoint. I'd say if you wanted .5 or .7, you'd need to get an EF nib. The medium 2000 nib for me is beyond buttery smooth. Like I have never felt a pen write smoother than this EVER in my life kinda smooth. It's the best! The fine is smooth, too, but the medium is smoother.
@@inkfade4281 thanks so much! I just got myself a EF nib after seeing your reply. And YES, it writes SUPERBLY and it does indeed put down a 0.5-0.7 line depending on paper quality and ink. I really do appreciate your response, it helped me narrow down my choices.
For anyone looking for a ef lamy 2000. I'll just say it will never be as smooth as the Medium or Broad nibs. But it is still very smooth, smoother than any Fine or Extra Fine Japanese Nib. It puts down a 0.5-0.7 width line and is still very very wet for the nib size. I really do recommend purchasing a extra fine for smaller writers. I'll hopefully be getting a Fine or a Medium soon!
@@jarylyip Thanks for your feedback. My handwriting is small and so I would definitely go for extra fine nib size of Lamy 2000. As I am a beginner and a student, I often use cheap paper. So I guess extra fine nib size of Lamy 2000 would be perfect for me.
@Jyjl Thanks for this. I was debating on getting an EF or an F for my daughter, who has small handwriting, and you explained it enough for me to make what I believe will be a good decision.
Seems to me there are a lot of inconsistencies with nibs in the Lamy brand. My steel nib medium is much finer than yours, and my medium 2000 writes is broader than my Lamy steel broad nib.
The medium is so broad. My handwriting is sloppy anyway, so I think I'll be good with the fine, especially for journaling.
When you were culling your pen collection, did you end up keeping both or any of these pens? Would love to know:) I'm kinda thinking of getting another Lamy 2000 because this pen feels so good in the hand:)
As of a couple of weeks ago, I have actually have decided to get rid of both of these pens. When I got the medium 2000 last year, I decided to get rid of the fine 2000 because it wrote better imo. I used the medium one quite a bit, but eventually I just stopped using it in favor of some of my other pens; namely, my Pelikan m605 I got recently and some Sailors. I still love the way the medium 2000 writes, but it is a little heavier than I like in a pen and I just wasn't using it like I was my others.
I still technically have both of them, but they're in a big box along with other pen stuff I plan to sell hopefully soon. So yeah, as of now, I no longer include either of the 2000s as a part of my fp collection. My pen collection has actually changed quite a bit in the past month or so. Currently my collection consists of six pens, whereas before it was close to a dozen.
If the pen is comfortable to write with for you, and you don't mind duplicates in your collection, I would absolutely encourage another! The nibs on these pens are so wonderful to write with, and the pen itself is gorgeous. I'd say go for it!
@@inkfade4281 thanks!
The plan is not to buy duplicates, unless they are the same model, in a different color and with a different nib. It's along story, but I had my 2000 changed into an architect nib after a series of accidents not long ago. It made me fall in love with this pen again, perhaps it's a sign...But I have a rather strict wishlist of 3 pens I'm allowed to buy this year (one slot has already been taken by Pelikan m405), so we'll see.
I hope you'll decide to record a video about what you decided to keep:)
Aurora ink on a lamy2k F?
Nice video
Do you ever experience ‘De Atramentis syndrome’? I have watched some reviews that say the quality of the ink decreases with only a few days inside the pen... I have yet to test that, I only have a sample of Jane Austen. Dipping the pen it behaved very different than having the pen inked for a few days...
That is very strange, I have never heard of this. I have noticed no strange things happening with my De Atramentis inks (bottled or samples) once put into a pen.
Nice review. Subscribed. I am a beginner and a student and I have to use cheap paper. My handwriting is small in size and I write slowly. So I guess extra fine nib size of Lamy 2000 would be perfect for me. Please recommend ink name for extra fine nib size of Lamy 2000. Thanks.
Thank you so much! :D
Yeah, I think EF would be your best bet if you're going to be using cheap paper. I think you'd want a dry ink, as well, because I've heard even the Lamy 2000's EF nib can be wet and might feather. I know Lamy's regular ink lineup are quite dry (in my opinion, anyway) and their black, blue, and blue/black would be quite professional. I tend to stay away from dry writing inks, though, so I'm not sure what other brands tend to run dry. Googling dry fountain pen inks will give you some good results, too. Sorry I couldn't be of more help!
@@inkfade4281 Thanks for your valuable feedback.
I hate hooded nibs, metal sections and piston fillers.
Why do I find Lamy pens, especially the Safari ugly.
The 2K is more interesting.