Risk/Reward wasn't there 1.5 bil risk for 100 mill, unless you're going for the adrenaline rush of the whole scenario and screwing over a scammer. You sound like you're having a good time though so keep rockin on!
Nice how to - some suggestions though: 1. Have the destination preset. 2. Be in fleet with the webber. 3. Hold cloak until the webber is in web range - either webber warps from a tactical / gate ping / offgrid etc to the freighter at zero and when the webber lands you warp the freighter; lock it with the webber and instawarp. Or you if dual boxing you manually fly the webber around by watching it on the freighter's screen. ie DO NOT decloak the freighter unless it is in web range. Also you jumped when there was a neut Badger watching you on the gate also bad idea.
That's dangerous, you know, because if there is a serrious pirates, you will have at least 2 stasis webs and your speed will be lower than 10 m/s, so you will die fast.
+Ger Her I'll pray for you at bible study this week. You must not have much of a life, and that saddens me. Tell you what though because you're obviously busy posting on youtube, when you get around to making a video showing you moving obvious scam contracts in and out of low/null in your freighter I'll call you the better man. But you have to do it on your main hauling char. No alts! Accountability is part of the respect!
thanks for your prayers, that's something that never hurts, posting comments in youtube doesnt mean I dont have a life btw so don't be sad. I can't offer you a vid cause my PC sucks balls :/ and that saddens me. next time have your friend jump before you and then warp to a celestial then warp to you at 10k once you jump and keep yourself cloaked til he hits grid, he should have a quick target fit with overheated webs in a disposable frig. cant guarantee shit aint gonna happen ;)
@@siigari bruh what? lmao. This was 3 years ago and you're probably a different person, but I hope you realize you gave the shittiest cliche response you could lmao
Using someone inexperienced to scout. Not having a quicklock webber on gate. Not using downtime trick. Not abusing the old trick with logoffski. Proper spodbrain video
The proper way to do that is to have your alt in a frig with 3 webbers. The second you click Dock, have your alt hit you with all 3 webbers so you get to speed faster and "insta" out of there. You'd have been warping in less than 2 seconds if you had done it the correct way.
That was pretty entertaining but luck had more than a little something to do with that contract being completed. Still, what's funnier than scamming the scammers?
Did the hurricane bump you? Did you get webs to help align? Would a blackbird have helped? Knowing there was a single hurricane, the BB could have brought ladar ECM.
That was exciting to see. For the noobs thought it would have been good to hear a description of what happened. I didn't catch how siigari managed to get away. Just all of a sudden he seemed to be able to warp. Also it wasn't clear what is friend was doing to help.
+Crack of Dawn I thought he finished his alignment and finally got to the warp speed? wait... unless he was scrammed, I cant see any of the EWAR hud icons
I think that the friend should have had ECM. When I escort someone, I typically use a griffin or blackbird to do it. Had the hurricane been jammed, you would have gotten away much sooner. In fact I'd a bit surprised the hurricane didn't just shoot the Crucifier. But otherwise, you seem to know what you're doing.
that "friend" was an idiot, was presumably zeroin on the gate - somehow ended up 25+km off the freighter when he took the gate. That is not "knowing what you are doing"
The biggest danger here wasn't he hurricane destroying you, there was absolutely no chance in that. What did make me really nervous was that you weren't checking D-SCAN! Not that it would have mattered, but the real danger is him calling in his friends to apply extra tackle and DPS. That Hurricane was really stupid to die like that.
Honestly though, if a cane is in "about as much armor % as you are", that means it's probably going to go down first - the Obelisk has the highest amount of hull HP of all freighters. At 3500 hull hp vs 120000, it's a difference no damage control can neutralize.
Ok but you didn't show how you got out of that system alive with your ship. I also thought that you can't undock a ship when you have so much armor damage.
Getting out is actually easier. Because that particular station is not a suicide undock, all you have to do is undock and then warp to the gate and you're out.
why didnt ur friend use tracking distributors on the hurricane? or ecm? why didnt ur friend just have ecm? they literally did nothing a log in alt could have done.
I believe you can't warp anywhere without any cap. I'm guessing that was the idea, but a freighter has a lot of cap to neut through.... Does a neut have a longer range than a web?
No offence, but I really don't see the skill you did there? Your friend probably got not a lot of knowledge at all and is somehow clueless about the game at all. You just clicked "allign to" and prayed to successfully warp away from the death. There is no skill at all, you just got lucky whatsoever, no offence bud just my .02 here.
the skill lies in preparation. only problem this time he didn't properly scan the system before he actually jumped, apart from that his information is sound. nowadays though web alts are commonplace and not really a secret
Obelisk Shield - 14k HP Armor - 40k HP Structure - 110K HP Total - 164k HP. You only lost 1/3 of your health. It would have taken two more canes to get you. What an "adrenaline rush"
Im currently living in a wh soloing c3 sleeper sites but its a bit slow. I manage to just make enough to plex my two accounts. I guess i should try plexes once we get a good null exit. Do you do your sites solo?
yea the structure is the hardest part when i saw the cane entered hull i knew you had a good chance of getting away, but like you say, anything could happen
hey guys I'm still quite new to Eve. I personnally play Caldari and I fly missiles ships. I was wondering... I started using auto-targetting missiles the other day. So far I love them, they do less damage, but no need to be constently locking on new targets. Especially since my targeting skills still sucks, and I can only lock on 2 guys at a time. So anyways my question is if you get ECMed, can you still fire those missiles? a standard missile you need to lock on a target, which you can't do while ECMed... but if you have auto-targetting missiles, you don't need to lock on them. Will the missiles still work? And from this video what I understand is that in low-sec, as soon as a pirate player sees you they attack you? Doesn't 0.4 still have Concord? I though even in low-sec, police would come and help you, just not as agressively and not as fast, but I thought only in null-sec would you get no help whatsoever from Concord. Also, another question: if I do some illegat shit in low-sec or null sec, will this still get Concord's attention when I retur to High-sec?
Like everyone else in the chat I don't think this is a good idea. However I love the honestly of this! People do stuff like this in eve all the time but no one records it. Please do more content like this please :D
Always never trust those stats in the map. Take a cheap ship or ask a friend to check the gates. Just because nobody has died doesn't mean you won't be the first to die.
"Blowing up a freighter gives me nothing, only a sweet killmail" - proceeds to wait 12 hours for it
years late but i think at that point it was the principal of him logging rather than paying
thats not how you safely jump in lowsec..u just got lucky...
💯% lucky ...
pretty sure that was sarcasm from the OP, least he had the balls-- dude lost 100 mil on his own scam. fail.
I love how you calmly say ''JUST DON'T PANICK!!!!!'' after almost passing out from madly clicking your mouse to death ^_^
"don't panic" - 2/3 minutes after yelling in chat window full caps
:)))
Risk/Reward wasn't there 1.5 bil risk for 100 mill, unless you're going for the adrenaline rush of the whole scenario and screwing over a scammer. You sound like you're having a good time though so keep rockin on!
TH-cam in 2019: let’s recommend this now
2020 ahora me lo recomendo a mi
youtube in 2020: let us do this yet again
TH-cam in 2021: I'll fucking do it again.
TH-cam in 2022: and again bitch
I've been watching this and just realized this video is 11 years ago.
"easy" 100M lol only costs you a heart attack and your hair might go grey
THAT was your big plan?? Hope the Hurricane goes down first?
lmfao
Hahahaha dude your mic must be top notch because I could hear your heart POUNDING lol
"Safely"
your term of safely and my are quite different
Xactly😀...lol.
does everything wrong, gets lucky, makes how to video. lmao, this is gold.
How to lose a freighter 101
Can't lose a freighter if you don't own one *roll safe.
imagine what would happen if you getting an active tanked cane next time ;P
that was just luck dude..
Nice how to - some suggestions though: 1. Have the destination preset. 2. Be in fleet with the webber. 3. Hold cloak until the webber is in web range - either webber warps from a tactical / gate ping / offgrid etc to the freighter at zero and when the webber lands you warp the freighter; lock it with the webber and instawarp. Or you if dual boxing you manually fly the webber around by watching it on the freighter's screen. ie DO NOT decloak the freighter unless it is in web range. Also you jumped when there was a neut Badger watching you on the gate also bad idea.
So you were scamming a contract scammer? I like you.
12 years later, it's almost like I'm watching a different game honestly!
That's dangerous, you know, because if there is a serrious pirates, you will have at least 2 stasis webs and your speed will be lower than 10 m/s, so you will die fast.
3 noobs on this vid
I count four since you got here!
***** yeah its because you are bad at math also
+Ger Her I'll pray for you at bible study this week. You must not have much of a life, and that saddens me. Tell you what though because you're obviously busy posting on youtube, when you get around to making a video showing you moving obvious scam contracts in and out of low/null in your freighter I'll call you the better man. But you have to do it on your main hauling char. No alts! Accountability is part of the respect!
thanks for your prayers, that's something that never hurts, posting comments in youtube doesnt mean I dont have a life btw so don't be sad. I can't offer you a vid cause my PC sucks balls :/ and that saddens me. next time have your friend jump before you and then warp to a celestial then warp to you at 10k once you jump and keep yourself cloaked til he hits grid, he should have a quick target fit with overheated webs in a disposable frig. cant guarantee shit aint gonna happen ;)
@@siigari bruh what? lmao.
This was 3 years ago and you're probably a different person, but I hope you realize you gave the shittiest cliche response you could lmao
Using someone inexperienced to scout.
Not having a quicklock webber on gate.
Not using downtime trick.
Not abusing the old trick with logoffski.
Proper spodbrain video
I'm guessing that this guys freighter didn't last much longer
Unfortunately, you guessed wrong :( www.pushx.net
Kinda cool that you "scammed" a scammer, but it really was just pure luck
The proper way to do that is to have your alt in a frig with 3 webbers. The second you click Dock, have your alt hit you with all 3 webbers so you get to speed faster and "insta" out of there. You'd have been warping in less than 2 seconds if you had done it the correct way.
i love how his video got deep fried at the end
Your friend Katy Deka took down that hurricane. I hope you gave them a reward or something! Also nice video
My friend lowsec gate guns actually took out the hurricane. Katy didn't have much fitted other than webs, rofl. But thank you for the compliment!
@@siigari Bahahaha that is awesome! This detail makes the whole situation even more entertaining. Thanks : ]
This shit is fucking hilarious
That was pretty entertaining but luck had more than a little something to do with that contract being completed.
Still, what's funnier than scamming the scammers?
Did the hurricane bump you? Did you get webs to help align? Would a blackbird have helped? Knowing there was a single hurricane, the BB could have brought ladar ECM.
How much was the repaid cost on the Obelisk?
Lol no game makes you sweat like Eve when your favorite shiny is under fire
That was exciting to see. For the noobs thought it would have been good to hear a description of what happened. I didn't catch how siigari managed to get away. Just all of a sudden he seemed to be able to warp. Also it wasn't clear what is friend was doing to help.
+Haydn Allbutt He was popped by the gate guns - you can see the hurricane disappears off of the overview and a capsule appears.
+Crack of Dawn I thought he finished his alignment and finally got to the warp speed?
wait... unless he was scrammed, I cant see any of the EWAR hud icons
Your friend really should have had ECM equipped, ecm drones, the whole nine yards. I assumed he had all that.
When this gets suggested 9 years later...why wouldnt you just shoot the hurricane with your pvp alt ?!?!?!
Im not brave enough to risk my Oblesk but you are the man for risking what 99% wont.
I think that the friend should have had ECM. When I escort someone, I typically use a griffin or blackbird to do it. Had the hurricane been jammed, you would have gotten away much sooner. In fact I'd a bit surprised the hurricane didn't just shoot the Crucifier. But otherwise, you seem to know what you're doing.
i would go with ECM partner just to make sure your ship reach its destination
Not worth it, im betting your repair bill took more than what you got as a reward or at least such a huge chunk that it wasnt worth the time.
Watching in 2020. But, anyway, even in terms of EVE-2020 gameplay that was very bad idea, you was just very, VERY, DRAMATICALY lucky)))
why ur friend didnt tell u that there is harricane camper on that side
that "friend" was an idiot, was presumably zeroin on the gate - somehow ended up 25+km off the freighter when he took the gate. That is not "knowing what you are doing"
He would have had autopilot enabled.
And he didn´t even mention the Hurricane...lol
you should use a falcon or rook to be your scout, if you do get caught they can just jam them out while you warp away.
"Whats he at?" "Hurricane" HAHAHA! Awesome video, thanks.
technically correct xD
you can realy Hear the Adrenalin you had from the Attack put into the Happyness being able to warp out xDD
The biggest danger here wasn't he hurricane destroying you, there was absolutely no chance in that. What did make me really nervous was that you weren't checking D-SCAN! Not that it would have mattered, but the real danger is him calling in his friends to apply extra tackle and DPS. That Hurricane was really stupid to die like that.
?? he jumps u jump he locks u webs u and u insta warp ?? easy get away before cane locks u ???
he realized he was going to lose his cane, and chose to try something else
Honestly though, if a cane is in "about as much armor % as you are", that means it's probably going to go down first - the Obelisk has the highest amount of hull HP of all freighters. At 3500 hull hp vs 120000, it's a difference no damage control can neutralize.
Why didnt you bring a warp stabilizer? Or even a gun to help your friend?
You literally did everything wrong and just got lucky that the hurricane pilot was a dingleberry.
as of Oct 2015 what are the PC specs you are using for EVE
Ok but you didn't show how you got out of that system alive with your ship. I also thought that you can't undock a ship when you have so much armor damage.
Getting out is actually easier. Because that particular station is not a suicide undock, all you have to do is undock and then warp to the gate and you're out.
I love it when gankers get ganked and I love it when scammers get scammed
He was not even close to getting you, the main HP of a freighter is in hull.
The irony is that he passed P220 and Tarsas of freight club along the way. Also, butts.
Why did he even take damage??
dude, just a crucifier as an escort in a busy gateway low sec...? that's a 1.4 billion isk ship.
i did try that but i found there was too much competition for not enough demand. Maybe i was peddling wrong stuff to wrong places.
could u have also survived if u head back to the gate ? or is 15km too far on this ship being webbed?
I know this is an old video, but did your friend not understand how to web you to get you in to Insta warp?
Correct ;D
Old dynamic cannot see if on or offline anymore unless they agree.
why didn't he attack your friend first so there is no dps on him ?
what was the fit on his friend's crucifier?
This was the most tense thing I've ever watched.
you're so lucky he didn't have friends.
My eyes burned when i saw you standing there naked with your hull.
Great vid mate!
So if buddy would have webbed you you been gone long before armor, and hurricane in low with no scram ??
why not use use falcon scout with triple web and a bunch of jammers
@Turboloscent Freighters have no fitting slots
No, you can't fit anything on a freighter because it doesn't have slots.
and good to see he slapped the web on really quickly
ive reped a providence that was deep into structure and only 18mil
There was nobody else in local though. He probably would have D-scanned if there was a spike.
why didnt ur friend use tracking distributors on the hurricane? or ecm?
why didnt ur friend just have ecm? they literally did nothing a log in alt could have done.
They were very, very new. I was just having them come along to learn. Unfortunately they weren't the best at taking instruction, heh.
I believe you can't warp anywhere without any cap. I'm guessing that was the idea, but a freighter has a lot of cap to neut through.... Does a neut have a longer range than a web?
No offence, but I really don't see the skill you did there? Your friend probably got not a lot of knowledge at all and is somehow clueless about the game at all. You just clicked "allign to" and prayed to successfully warp away from the death. There is no skill at all, you just got lucky whatsoever, no offence bud just my .02 here.
bahh skill is only used in twitch based games not point and click ones like EVE... those are strategy. and the guy just got lucky.
the skill lies in preparation. only problem this time he didn't properly scan the system before he actually jumped, apart from that his information is sound. nowadays though web alts are commonplace and not really a secret
During this age... A Freighter was worth around 300-500M wasn't it?
Around 700
Don't underestimate how much dps a small ship can do.
100mil profit but how much was the repair bill?
for the armor hes friend could just fit and remote armor repper and then it wouldnt cost anything
Obelisk
Shield - 14k HP
Armor - 40k HP
Structure - 110K HP
Total - 164k HP.
You only lost 1/3 of your health. It would have taken two more canes to get you. What an "adrenaline rush"
+Flaire Arizona
Could have held him long enough for help to arrive or light a cyno.
Im currently living in a wh soloing c3 sleeper sites but its a bit slow. I manage to just make enough to plex my two accounts. I guess i should try plexes once we get a good null exit. Do you do your sites solo?
That would have gone a whole lot smoother if your friend had his shit together.
yea the structure is the hardest part when i saw the cane entered hull i knew you had a good chance of getting away, but like you say, anything could happen
"About 20 minutes later he logged back in, we had probes out..." Where you hear 12 hours?
Notice how the hurricane stopped shooting you...
Hence why my scout alt uses a scorpion
hey guys I'm still quite new to Eve. I personnally play Caldari and I fly missiles ships. I was wondering... I started using auto-targetting missiles the other day. So far I love them, they do less damage, but no need to be constently locking on new targets. Especially since my targeting skills still sucks, and I can only lock on 2 guys at a time.
So anyways my question is if you get ECMed, can you still fire those missiles? a standard missile you need to lock on a target, which you can't do while ECMed... but if you have auto-targetting missiles, you don't need to lock on them. Will the missiles still work?
And from this video what I understand is that in low-sec, as soon as a pirate player sees you they attack you? Doesn't 0.4 still have Concord? I though even in low-sec, police would come and help you, just not as agressively and not as fast, but I thought only in null-sec would you get no help whatsoever from Concord.
Also, another question: if I do some illegat shit in low-sec or null sec, will this still get Concord's attention when I retur to High-sec?
Why did you use a crucifier rather than a griffin? Same price and the griffin would have saved you if that cane had logi.
You know you had a 150K structure right?
Did you mention safely??
if this gets 10 more people to lose freighters in low sec then this video is a success
Haha, my heart was jumping for you! Great vid, nice story too.
dont get nervous or you will lose your ship, check out that button warp spam, boy was he nervous SPAM THAT BUTTON
how the fuck can you have an alt and a friend on the other side of the gate and still jump into a hurricane, are you kidding me
Like everyone else in the chat I don't think this is a good idea. However I love the honestly of this! People do stuff like this in eve all the time but no one records it. Please do more content like this please :D
Always never trust those stats in the map. Take a cheap ship or ask a friend to check the gates. Just because nobody has died doesn't mean you won't be the first to die.
You have balls of steel sir...Brilliant , I was laughing my head off :O)
sir i know thats an old vid u got there but could u tell me how can u use an alt at the same time ?
i have a eve better story i had super-cap tackled in a saber. with a titan out of range. Missed the kill. why not just have a falcon in system?
What was shooting the hurricane?
Gate sentries
I'm kinda nee to eve, can someone explain what he did wrong?