I love this. I had read elsewhere about how Player 1 could be different from Player 2. And these double bodies are beginning to get confusing!! Lol but it's interesting, nonetheless. When I finished my KHI playthrough, I stared at the secret reports and though Ansem speaks of heartless and nobody, it all hits different now, when Ansem says "One could be at two places at once" like with all these new theories flying about, I can no longer read these reports the same. LOL
@@skazzfish I've thought about the Player technically being two people, too. In the process of making this video, I ran across the line where the Player refers to "their two lifetimes", though, so I lean towards thinking that the Player at least thinks of themselves as one person who got a second chance. I'm happy you liked the video!
@@flagfighter Ohhh yes, yes. That would be so interesting. If there is two of himself, but he doesn't even know it.. then I wonder if there are more just like that?
great... now i'm imagining lauriam and elrena talking to the wayfinders and trying to help ven with his amnesia and then luxord shows up with brain's hat and master defender in one hand(yes he took it from his grandson's grave) saying something like "finally, it was about the damn time you 2 remenbered, i was starting to get tired of watching over you two" also now i think about it marluxia and larxene's first appearance was in CoM... a card game and what org XIII menber uses cards as a weapon?... god damnit nomura
You raise some good points! I kept thinking about how it would feel wrong if someone took the Master Defender now that it's with Eraqus's grave, but if anyone could take it, a relative could be justified...
@@flagfighter god the more i think about this theory the more It makes sense, time and space(luxord and xigbar's elements respectively) are usually portrayed as opposites in media, the fact that If you dont count the traitors(roxas, xion, marluxia and larxene) and xemnas in the orgXIII xigbar and luxord are the the First and last numbers (II and X), and the fact that the two numbers after luxord are XI(marluxia) and XII(larxene) hell even his title "gambler of fate" is fitting for someone who had their own copy of the book of prophecies
3:09 there's a third, Player. Luxord deanagrams to Ludor, which means "one who plays" in Latin. X/UX had a whole Latin thing going on with the Unions, Foretellers, and Ventus, so Ludor being the Player's official name makes sense. I think based on the ML second trailer's VO, that Player becomes Brain's apprentice in their second life, then after dying in DR becomes Luxord, and still acts as Brain''s apprentice.
@@kaielthoth5363 Personally, I stray from the idea of Luxord being the player because the player is supposed to be us. They could be male, female, or whatever. They have some personality, but it's mostly generic heroic qualities you would expect from a player character so you can fill in the rest on your own with whatever you want. I don't see myself as a bearded gambler with a British accent. lol Even when the KHUX player was "reborn" as the ML player, we could still choose what they looked like. I just think it would be kind of upsetting to take that away and insist that they're actually a fully established canon character now. If anyone IS the player reborn again, I would think it's Sora because we play as him. I agree that Luxord's name could be Ludor, though. That still fits him as a gambler.
@@flagfighter it seems that someone on reddit also made the connection between brain and luxord and apparently it runs as deep as brain's clothes being associated with gamblers
@@Neku628 I mean Luxord doesn't even slightly looks like Brain, so if that theory ends up being true it would surely mean he had another form (reincarnation, vessel) and that one would be where the name comes from. It's KH we're talking about, anything goes
@@Neku628 ah, yes, Vanitas, clearly an anagram with an X in it. I wonder what Xehanorts name before he joined the Org was, crazy his mom signed him up before he left Data Scala!
I'd say luxord is probably the protagonist of missing link, hair and eyes match, the outfit fits the posh accent and the fact that the tension between him and luxu(xigbar) is there
I lean away from thinking that he's the player character because we know that the player goes on to become Xehanort's guardian/mentor on Destiny Islands, and then they pass away. So, if he's Luxord, he would have to be a reincarnation or something. The ML version of the player is already technically a "reincarnation" of the one from khux in a manner of speaking, but I don't know if they would do that again, you know? But maybe. It's not impossible!
Correct On All Assumptions. Oh.... And A Few More Things; Other Than Luxu Obviously Being On My Team, Luxord Is Also On Team M.O.M. "This Is Not The End......Merely A Prelude For What Is To Come."
Well, Demyx could have spawned in Atlantica and made some deal with Ursula to time travel. I mean, there was a Disney comic where Aladdin went back in time thanks to Genie's magic and met his mom. They are beings that practice or are magic. So, we don't know the extent of Ursula's magic, but she could have made a deal with Demyx's Somebody to travel in time after finding himself in Ursula's cave. But, Ursula being Ursula, well she double-crossed Demyx's Somebody in some way. That consequence could have been Demyx being stripped of all of his memories, except just remembering he played an instrument. Atlantica has a big influence with music, heck that was a crucial plot in the Little Mermaid 3; King Trident losing his wife and him banning music in his kingdom. Unbeknownst to him, Sebastian ran a club catering on music.
I'm still around! lol I actually have a whole video that I scripted already that goes in-depth about the similarities between Class Zero and the Lost Masters. I think it'll be interesting even to people who have already played Type-0. It's going to be a pretty long video, so it might take me a while. Hopefully I can have it finished before The Game Awards. I half-expect us to get some news on KH4 around that time.
Hmmm Interesting, I Always Did Think That Luxord Being With Marluxia And Larxene In The Graveyard Was Strange. It Made A Lot More Sense To Me For Dark Riku To Be With Those 2 Because Of Their CoM Connection, But If Theyre Planning For The Future This Could Make Sense. Maybe That Means Luxu Has Something To Do Either Riku Replica Or Just Riku? Maybe After Riku Goes To Quadratum He'll Antagonize Him Or Try To Keep Him Away From Sora Or Something. My Brain Gears Are Definitely Grinding
I hadn't thought about it like that, but you're right. It feels like Dark Riku should've been with them... It doesn't really make sense for him to be with Xigbar, imo. They might be the most random combination. I think Vanitas could've made more sense because of him being one of the ancient Darkness, but they put him with Terra-Xehanort which also feels appropriate. Now I'm gonna be thinking about this. lol
I'd love to know who you think Yozora is, his connection to Sora or what he really looks like. Besides the obvious meta commentary about Noctis and Versus. I would really like to see a video of you about this.
Honestly, it's one of those things where I just have no idea. lol I think the scenes with the Nameless Star are really interesting, though. It feels like she's implying that someone out there has the ability to practically change people beyond recognition. She lost everything, but maybe Yozora was able to retain a bit of himself because his heart connected with Sora's somehow. That could explain why he looks like Riku, like his heart borrowed his appearance from Sora's memories. tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if he looked like Sora to start with, perhaps due to some connection that was formed with Sora during one of his various near-death experiences or... Just as a coincidence, maybe. lol There's so much we don't know right now, it's hard to say anything with certainty.
They haven't changed anything about the predictions that I made in this video so far. What's funny is that after I saw Remus (who looks like a relative of Lea to me), I was going to say that I think the people of ML's Scala became the founders of Radiant Garden. That actually seems like it could be the case now. The scientists who are dressed like Ansem the Wise certainly support that notion.
Ohhhhh I love this whole Luxord, Marluxia, Larxene thing you brought up. Still watching but I love it!
I love this. I had read elsewhere about how Player 1 could be different from Player 2. And these double bodies are beginning to get confusing!! Lol but it's interesting, nonetheless. When I finished my KHI playthrough, I stared at the secret reports and though Ansem speaks of heartless and nobody, it all hits different now, when Ansem says "One could be at two places at once" like with all these new theories flying about, I can no longer read these reports the same. LOL
@@skazzfish Agree with my sister that part where you mentioned the marluxia and larxene is so interesting I really like this theory
@@skazzfish I've thought about the Player technically being two people, too. In the process of making this video, I ran across the line where the Player refers to "their two lifetimes", though, so I lean towards thinking that the Player at least thinks of themselves as one person who got a second chance.
I'm happy you liked the video!
@@flagfighter Ohhh yes, yes. That would be so interesting. If there is two of himself, but he doesn't even know it.. then I wonder if there are more just like that?
Hey, how are you doing, I didn't expect to see you in this comment section. I also agree that Marluxia, larxene, and luxord are good theories.
great... now i'm imagining lauriam and elrena talking to the wayfinders and trying to help ven with his amnesia and then luxord shows up with brain's hat and master defender in one hand(yes he took it from his grandson's grave) saying something like "finally, it was about the damn time you 2 remenbered, i was starting to get tired of watching over you two"
also now i think about it marluxia and larxene's first appearance was in CoM... a card game and what org XIII menber uses cards as a weapon?... god damnit nomura
You raise some good points! I kept thinking about how it would feel wrong if someone took the Master Defender now that it's with Eraqus's grave, but if anyone could take it, a relative could be justified...
@@flagfighter god the more i think about this theory the more It makes sense, time and space(luxord and xigbar's elements respectively) are usually portrayed as opposites in media, the fact that If you dont count the traitors(roxas, xion, marluxia and larxene) and xemnas in the orgXIII xigbar and luxord are the the First and last numbers (II and X), and the fact that the two numbers after luxord are XI(marluxia) and XII(larxene) hell even his title "gambler of fate" is fitting for someone who had their own copy of the book of prophecies
3:09 there's a third, Player. Luxord deanagrams to Ludor, which means "one who plays" in Latin. X/UX had a whole Latin thing going on with the Unions, Foretellers, and Ventus, so Ludor being the Player's official name makes sense. I think based on the ML second trailer's VO, that Player becomes Brain's apprentice in their second life, then after dying in DR becomes Luxord, and still acts as Brain''s apprentice.
@@kaielthoth5363 Personally, I stray from the idea of Luxord being the player because the player is supposed to be us. They could be male, female, or whatever. They have some personality, but it's mostly generic heroic qualities you would expect from a player character so you can fill in the rest on your own with whatever you want. I don't see myself as a bearded gambler with a British accent. lol Even when the KHUX player was "reborn" as the ML player, we could still choose what they looked like. I just think it would be kind of upsetting to take that away and insist that they're actually a fully established canon character now. If anyone IS the player reborn again, I would think it's Sora because we play as him.
I agree that Luxord's name could be Ludor, though. That still fits him as a gambler.
@@flagfighter it seems that someone on reddit also made the connection between brain and luxord and apparently it runs as deep as brain's clothes being associated with gamblers
Brain being Luxord makes so much sense I really hope this theory is true
But what about the letters since all of the Organization members' names are just their original names with an X missed in?
@@Neku628 I mean Luxord doesn't even slightly looks like Brain, so if that theory ends up being true it would surely mean he had another form (reincarnation, vessel) and that one would be where the name comes from. It's KH we're talking about, anything goes
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@@Neku628 ah, yes, Vanitas, clearly an anagram with an X in it. I wonder what Xehanorts name before he joined the Org was, crazy his mom signed him up before he left Data Scala!
I'd say luxord is probably the protagonist of missing link, hair and eyes match, the outfit fits the posh accent and the fact that the tension between him and luxu(xigbar) is there
I lean away from thinking that he's the player character because we know that the player goes on to become Xehanort's guardian/mentor on Destiny Islands, and then they pass away. So, if he's Luxord, he would have to be a reincarnation or something. The ML version of the player is already technically a "reincarnation" of the one from khux in a manner of speaking, but I don't know if they would do that again, you know? But maybe. It's not impossible!
Correct On All Assumptions. Oh.... And A Few More Things; Other Than Luxu Obviously Being On My Team, Luxord Is Also On Team M.O.M.
"This Is Not The End......Merely A Prelude For What Is To Come."
Well, Demyx could have spawned in Atlantica and made some deal with Ursula to time travel. I mean, there was a Disney comic where Aladdin went back in time thanks to Genie's magic and met his mom. They are beings that practice or are magic. So, we don't know the extent of Ursula's magic, but she could have made a deal with Demyx's Somebody to travel in time after finding himself in Ursula's cave. But, Ursula being Ursula, well she double-crossed Demyx's Somebody in some way. That consequence could have been Demyx being stripped of all of his memories, except just remembering he played an instrument.
Atlantica has a big influence with music, heck that was a crucial plot in the Little Mermaid 3; King Trident losing his wife and him banning music in his kingdom. Unbeknownst to him, Sebastian ran a club catering on music.
Pls come back and make more videos! Primers on Type-0 for those who didn't play it and how it might relate to KH would be appreciated
I'm still around! lol I actually have a whole video that I scripted already that goes in-depth about the similarities between Class Zero and the Lost Masters. I think it'll be interesting even to people who have already played Type-0. It's going to be a pretty long video, so it might take me a while. Hopefully I can have it finished before The Game Awards. I half-expect us to get some news on KH4 around that time.
Pretty sure brain narrates ML trailer
Sigurd narrates the reveal trailer from 2022. There are various voices in the teaser from last year, but one of them does seem to be Brain, yes.
Hmmm Interesting, I Always Did Think That Luxord Being With Marluxia And Larxene In The Graveyard Was Strange. It Made A Lot More Sense To Me For Dark Riku To Be With Those 2 Because Of Their CoM Connection, But If Theyre Planning For The Future This Could Make Sense. Maybe That Means Luxu Has Something To Do Either Riku Replica Or Just Riku? Maybe After Riku Goes To Quadratum He'll Antagonize Him Or Try To Keep Him Away From Sora Or Something. My Brain Gears Are Definitely Grinding
I hadn't thought about it like that, but you're right. It feels like Dark Riku should've been with them... It doesn't really make sense for him to be with Xigbar, imo. They might be the most random combination. I think Vanitas could've made more sense because of him being one of the ancient Darkness, but they put him with Terra-Xehanort which also feels appropriate. Now I'm gonna be thinking about this. lol
9:40 I was wondering this too.
Pretty sure one of the darknesses got destroyed or something when the world collapsed? Or am I thinking about something else
So xeanort and erikus are basically related if the theory is correct explaining there close friendship and how the basically equal out the other
It's a possibilty.
This was really fun to watch.
One thing tho, I’m pretty sure Nomura confirmed that Skuld isn’t Xehanort’s Mother but someone related to her in some way 🧐.
Did I call her his mom...? If so, my bad. I must have meant ancestor.
@@flagfighter I just got that impression when you said “Ephemer you are the Father.” 😅
Holy shit it makes a ton of sense why the fight was Luxurd, Marluxia, and Larxene wtf. 😳😳
I'd love to know who you think Yozora is, his connection to Sora or what he really looks like. Besides the obvious meta commentary about Noctis and Versus. I would really like to see a video of you about this.
And also why he kinda looks like riku too haha
Honestly, it's one of those things where I just have no idea. lol I think the scenes with the Nameless Star are really interesting, though. It feels like she's implying that someone out there has the ability to practically change people beyond recognition. She lost everything, but maybe Yozora was able to retain a bit of himself because his heart connected with Sora's somehow. That could explain why he looks like Riku, like his heart borrowed his appearance from Sora's memories. tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if he looked like Sora to start with, perhaps due to some connection that was formed with Sora during one of his various near-death experiences or... Just as a coincidence, maybe. lol There's so much we don't know right now, it's hard to say anything with certainty.
has the beta cutscenes added to any ideas you've had?
They haven't changed anything about the predictions that I made in this video so far.
What's funny is that after I saw Remus (who looks like a relative of Lea to me), I was going to say that I think the people of ML's Scala became the founders of Radiant Garden. That actually seems like it could be the case now. The scientists who are dressed like Ansem the Wise certainly support that notion.
Great video!!
I really really like your videos (:
Thank you! ☺
...Player is Demyx?