Great video, as a gigging drummer always trying to be efficient myself, I appreciate hearing your thoughts behind each piece gear from the drum shells, to the floor tom legs. Thanks for sharing.
There aren’t many gear videos where I think, yep, every choice is solid. This is certainly an exception. Your gear list is absolutely my dream list. The WTS system is amazing. We used to have a local guy who made similar cable tune drums called Page Drums. Very limited distribution though. I already use the Yamaha Crosstown stands and I’ve put INDe mounts on several kits. My lightweight kit though is an Oriollo aluminum kit (with an INDe tom mount) and my snare is a Ludwig Standard aluminum. I also use TnR products (we lived in the same town and I would see them at gigs or drum shows). One cymbal I suggest is the Dave Weckl signature HHX crash from Sabian. I think it would pair nicely with those prototypes. Great video. Oh, and I don’t live in a town where parking is an issue or anything like that. My need for lightening the load was for a much more serious issue. I’m old and lazy!
Swapping out the Yamaha wing nuts and cymbal felts on the Crosstown cymbal stands with INDe cymbal gummies makes the Crosstown snares truly superb. The cymbals swing more freely and the cymbal gummies don’t choke resonance like the thick Yamaha felts.
I love the innovation of the 'one point' tuning wire system and the ultra-light aluminum hardware. "Back in the day" I had an ingeniously designed Trixon kit and didn't realize until recently how lightweight, convenient and innovative that hardware was for a gigging drummer. Now that my back is 'several' years older ;-) - Lightweight is great! Thanks.
I hear you! I think we were all sold on the idea that we were supposed to have arena-weight hardware back in the 80s and 90s, so that "old flimsy hardware" was supposed to be useless. Everything old is new again...
I mean, if I get booked for a big arena tour or something, I'll use the heavy duty stuff. But for local gigs where I'm loading in my own drums myself? The Crosstown stuff rules!
As a gigging drummer, I really really appreciate this setup! I also pay close attention to space and weight savings, and volume control. If I ever decide to replace the little Sonor Safari I'm currently gigging (the older, inexpensive Select Hardwood model that sounds WAY better than it has any right to), the WTS drums are definitely my choice. For cymbals, I'm also a Sabian man, but I'm relying fully on the FRX line for this rig. They sound fantastic and have the volume control I need. I also use the Kelly Shu with a drilled-in XLR jack, and, like yours, it's a game changer! All my future kits will have one. Beautiful set up, man!!
Yamaha crosstown is the way to go. I got the set plus an additional cymbal stand and my hardware set up is 52 lbs lighter than the doubled braced DW set up. I carry it in the provided bag versus a big case and hand truck. ++
I believe it! I realized that my heavy Protector hardware case now weighs almost as much as the hardware inside it. A lighter case may be next on the list...
Those Inde drums sound really good. Much "bigger" in sound than their size would suggest. Thanks for the video and tips to get the sound you are looking for. I think that is an important thing for a drummer to have sound in their head what they would like to have their drums sound like, and working to achieve that sound. I think that seperates those serious about drumming, and those who are not. I think those snare weights are one of the best all time drum hack. Using leather so when you hit the drum it raises of the drumhead to hear the note, then silently shortening the resonance or decay of the drum. They just work so much better than I ever thought they would. Not a fan of the jell pads.
This is honestly one of my very favorite sets of drums that I've ever played. And I'm not exactly sure right now what kit I could name that would top it!
Beautiful set of drums!...love the GMS snare! I had a grandmaster snarew?die cast hoops and it cracked for days.LOve it when drummers show their stuff and answer questions that normally go unanswered until you pull the trigger and just buy the damn thing.good video thank you.
Nice setup! I've been eyeing the crosstowns, and of course I'm starting to put inde throws on everything! The kit sounds AMAZING btw. Hopefully I'll get back up there to hear you!
Man I have a nice Blue INDe Kit like yours , but not with the WTS system that is really cool! I will also check out that Sabian clapstack hopefully the 12” version is available
I asked for a 23" medium/thin ride with the bottom unlathed and the top lathed in the HHX Complex style, a 21" super dry crash that's thin and unlathed, a 14" "Holy China" that's uses the HH series instead of the AA series and a 12" AAX splash with the "air splash" holes!
Great video! Another thumbs up for INDe. I love my kit, and I wish they had the WTS collaboration when I got mine. It looks like you're using roc n soc thrones in the studio. Are you using them with the gigging kit also? Thrones always seem to be some of the heaviest items for hardware, and I didn't know if you had a lighter weight recommendation.
I love my Roc n Soc thrones, and am absolutely using the blue hydraulic throne you see here with my gigging kit. I find that throne significantly lighter than their model with the solid steel threaded post, and am happy to deal with the slightly heavier weight than a "lightweight" throne for the extra comfort it gives on a long gig.
Roc n Soc Nitro. Solid as a rock, extremely comfortable for long shows, and lighter than comparable thrones with the threaded steel spindle. I love these thrones!
Basically, slightly lower pitch. For me, a 14 floor tom is just too high pitched if it's my lowest tom, whereas often a 16" floor can get sonically swallowed up on a loud live stage when it's too low. The 15" diameter splits the difference perfectly for me, and I've used that size live for a couple of decades at this point.
Yes, the finish will scar. I use a mic bracket on my hihat and it leaves a mark. Each piece has it's own protective bag for transportation though. I have over 100 gigs on my set up and except for the bracket area on the hat stand it looks brand new... Good stuff. Even on windy outdoor gigs at the beach, it's rock solid.
Just to add my two cents, I agree with the other comments - I wouldn't plan on clamping anything metal to these stands. I do clamp my IKlip iPad clamp from IK Multimedia onto the cymbal stand, but that clamp is made of plastic and doesn't leave any marks that I can see
Great video, as a gigging drummer always trying to be efficient myself, I appreciate hearing your thoughts behind each piece gear from the drum shells, to the floor tom legs. Thanks for sharing.
There aren’t many gear videos where I think, yep, every choice is solid. This is certainly an exception. Your gear list is absolutely my dream list. The WTS system is amazing. We used to have a local guy who made similar cable tune drums called Page Drums. Very limited distribution though. I already use the Yamaha Crosstown stands and I’ve put INDe mounts on several kits. My lightweight kit though is an Oriollo aluminum kit (with an INDe tom mount) and my snare is a Ludwig Standard aluminum. I also use TnR products (we lived in the same town and I would see them at gigs or drum shows). One cymbal I suggest is the Dave Weckl signature HHX crash from Sabian. I think it would pair nicely with those prototypes. Great video.
Oh, and I don’t live in a town where parking is an issue or anything like that. My need for lightening the load was for a much more serious issue. I’m old and lazy!
I actually added a 17" HHX Legacy Crash right after I made this video! Great minds think alike... ;^)
Many thanks for the shout out Dylan! Glad to hear our product helps you out! Let us know if ever you have SHU questions. Best wishes from Nebraska!
Swapping out the Yamaha wing nuts and cymbal felts on the Crosstown cymbal stands with INDe cymbal gummies makes the Crosstown snares truly superb. The cymbals swing more freely and the cymbal gummies don’t choke resonance like the thick Yamaha felts.
I love the innovation of the 'one point' tuning wire system and the ultra-light aluminum hardware. "Back in the day" I had an ingeniously designed Trixon kit and didn't realize until recently how lightweight, convenient and innovative that hardware was for a gigging drummer. Now that my back is 'several' years older ;-) - Lightweight is great! Thanks.
I hear you! I think we were all sold on the idea that we were supposed to have arena-weight hardware back in the 80s and 90s, so that "old flimsy hardware" was supposed to be useless. Everything old is new again...
Wow that was a great video. And yes us old guys have moved to the Yamaha crosstown for sure !
I mean, if I get booked for a big arena tour or something, I'll use the heavy duty stuff. But for local gigs where I'm loading in my own drums myself? The Crosstown stuff rules!
Wow--WTS for the win! Reminds me of the tunable floor tom that Max Roach used to have. Foot pedal tuning would be great for certain effects.
Great video, Dylan! Keep it up!
Thanks, Wade!
Great information. If I ever get the money, I definitely want the WTS kit.
As a gigging drummer, I really really appreciate this setup! I also pay close attention to space and weight savings, and volume control. If I ever decide to replace the little Sonor Safari I'm currently gigging (the older, inexpensive Select Hardwood model that sounds WAY better than it has any right to), the WTS drums are definitely my choice. For cymbals, I'm also a Sabian man, but I'm relying fully on the FRX line for this rig. They sound fantastic and have the volume control I need. I also use the Kelly Shu with a drilled-in XLR jack, and, like yours, it's a game changer! All my future kits will have one.
Beautiful set up, man!!
Sick set-up.
Yamaha crosstown is the way to go. I got the set plus an additional cymbal stand and my hardware set up is 52 lbs lighter than the doubled braced DW set up. I carry it in the provided bag versus a big case and hand truck. ++
I believe it! I realized that my heavy Protector hardware case now weighs almost as much as the hardware inside it. A lighter case may be next on the list...
I JUST DID THE SABIAN SOUNDCHECK!!!
Those Inde drums sound really good. Much "bigger" in sound than their size would suggest. Thanks for the video and tips to get the sound you are looking for. I think that is an important thing for a drummer to have sound in their head what they would like to have their drums sound like, and working to achieve that sound. I think that seperates those serious about drumming, and those who are not. I think those snare weights are one of the best all time drum hack. Using leather so when you hit the drum it raises of the drumhead to hear the note, then silently shortening the resonance or decay of the drum. They just work so much better than I ever thought they would. Not a fan of the jell pads.
This is honestly one of my very favorite sets of drums that I've ever played. And I'm not exactly sure right now what kit I could name that would top it!
Beautiful set of drums!...love the GMS snare! I had a grandmaster snarew?die cast hoops and it cracked for days.LOve it when drummers show their stuff and answer questions that normally go unanswered until you pull the trigger and just buy the damn thing.good video thank you.
I Love the aluminum hardware aspect. Thanks!
Such a good video. The kit is stunning and I love your space… happy to subscribe.
Wow! Thanks Dylan for this awesome and very informative video. I kinda forgot about those Yamaha stands. Definitely gonna have to check those out! 🥁❤️
Nice setup! I've been eyeing the crosstowns, and of course I'm starting to put inde throws on everything!
The kit sounds AMAZING btw. Hopefully I'll get back up there to hear you!
Thanks for so much useful info
Man I have a nice Blue INDe Kit like yours , but not with the WTS system that is really cool! I will also check out that Sabian clapstack hopefully the 12” version is available
It's really cool, and I believe will be pretty inexpensive when it's released (sadly I don't have any details about that)
Nice !
I asked for
a 23" medium/thin ride with the bottom unlathed and the top lathed in the HHX Complex style, a 21" super dry crash that's thin and unlathed, a 14" "Holy China" that's uses the HH series instead of the AA series and a 12" AAX splash with the "air splash" holes!
THANKS for the video. Can you pls link to the snare strainer?
Great video! Another thumbs up for INDe. I love my kit, and I wish they had the WTS collaboration when I got mine. It looks like you're using roc n soc thrones in the studio. Are you using them with the gigging kit also? Thrones always seem to be some of the heaviest items for hardware, and I didn't know if you had a lighter weight recommendation.
I love my Roc n Soc thrones, and am absolutely using the blue hydraulic throne you see here with my gigging kit. I find that throne significantly lighter than their model with the solid steel threaded post, and am happy to deal with the slightly heavier weight than a "lightweight" throne for the extra comfort it gives on a long gig.
Great video, Dylan. Which hoops do you use for your Acrolite? Tks!
Just regular modern 2.3mm. Such an amazing all-around drum!
What about the throne?
Roc n Soc Nitro. Solid as a rock, extremely comfortable for long shows, and lighter than comparable thrones with the threaded steel spindle. I love these thrones!
What's the benefit of a 14x15 floor tom over a 14x14?
Basically, slightly lower pitch. For me, a 14 floor tom is just too high pitched if it's my lowest tom, whereas often a 16" floor can get sonically swallowed up on a loud live stage when it's too low. The 15" diameter splits the difference perfectly for me, and I've used that size live for a couple of decades at this point.
wait gms is still around thought they folded or did they just scale back a bit
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Do you think the crosstown hardware would get marked if clamps were used on them?
If you're suspending toms, probably.
Yes, the finish will scar. I use a mic bracket on my hihat and it leaves a mark. Each piece has it's own protective bag for transportation though. I have over 100 gigs on my set up and except for the bracket area on the hat stand it looks brand new... Good stuff. Even on windy outdoor gigs at the beach, it's rock solid.
Just to add my two cents, I agree with the other comments - I wouldn't plan on clamping anything metal to these stands. I do clamp my IKlip iPad clamp from IK Multimedia onto the cymbal stand, but that clamp is made of plastic and doesn't leave any marks that I can see
Are you still a Ludwig endorsee?
I was never an official endorser! I love their drums and have worked with the crew on a few things, but was never on the roster
ha ive been on the internet too long.
Is this a commercial endorsement? 😂😂😂😂
Nope, just stuff that I purchased and really dig!