Is Android really just Linux? - Gary explains
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Is Android just Linux? Or maybe a Linux distro? Or is it something else? Let me explain.
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“Linux“ is just the kernel (core operating system). That's it. That's all Linus Torvalds designed and (I believe) intended it to be. If you add GNU utilities, an X Server, and a Windows Manager/Desktop environment (like KDE, XFCE, or GNOME) to the Linux kernel you get a Linux desktop distribution. If you add a different set of utilities to the Linux kernel, and a different user interface, you get Chrome OS or Android. However, it is still Linux at the core, and because of that Android is no different than any other Linux derivative -- to include desktop Linux distributions like Mint or Ubuntu. I just think that a lot of folks out there still don't fully understand that Linux is just the kernel, and don't want to admit that Android is just another Linux distribution like Ubuntu, accept Android is aimed at mobile devices instead of desktops.
well said!
Android can replace the Linux kernel with some other kernel someday (after some code tweaks) and still be Android. All the apps would still work. What makes Android OS is all the software that Android developers wrote (including JVM OR Android Runtime). Calling Android Linux is giving way too much credit to kernel when most of the software that makes Android OS is written by Google and has nothing to do with Linus Torvalds. In fact, it's perfectly possible to replace the linux kernel with a new kernel written by Google, and the operating system would still be Android.
Linux kernel is used in all sorts of stuff (regenerators tvs watches, cars). It's like calling Tesla Linux because some chip in it is using linux kernel. Thats nonsense.
Android - “It’s Linux but actually successful in the mainstream”
Ouch
Well yes, but no.
Quite right there sir
Gary is a shill
Oops
Gary teaches better than my teacher
Yep!
Do you happen to know Youssef's teacher?
J A 😂😂
Gary should go into teaching
Your teacher teaches these kind of stuff?
Your way of saying "Linux" is the correct way of saying it. The anglophones just butcher it by saying "Lainux" or "Linix".
Yep!
Also..the correct pronunciation of "Linus" is just Linus, not Lajnus, as Gary said. Be consistent!
vakuumhuvud I think it's different in the UK and US
Zach Champion. Well, Linus is from Finland, but he is talking swedish as his native language, and in swedish, as well as in finnish, it is pronounced Liinus, not Lajnus.
Tonni
My decision on pronouncing Linux came long ago (1995?) from a very old "recording" I heard, which may still be around, of Linus Torvalds saying, " I am Linus Torvalds and I pronounce Linux Linux." To an American, this version of Linux sounded like "lee nooks," and the name Linus sounded like Lee Noose. But unfortunately every Linus in America I know of does not pronounce their name Lee Noose, so pronouncing Linux "lee nooks" is out of the question for an American. I just pronounce Linux like I have heard the name Linus, but with an x on the end instead of an s. I have never heard Linux pronounced "lee nooks" in any video, and definitely not in this one, so I don't see why this one is definitive.
In a more recent video in which Mr. Torvalds was asked (for the thousandth time?) how to pronounce Linux, the exasperated Torvalds replied curtly, "I don't care how you pronounce it." Notice that he deftly did not use the word Linux, to leave no implied guideline.
It is my understanding that vowels that have the same linguistic value (to linguists) are not pronounced the same in different Indo-European languages, or even across different regions of the same country where one language is spoken. So what sounds like "lee" to an American hearing Mr. Torvalds would translate to "lie" or "lye" in an American sound of the equivalent vowel.
Now that that's settled...
Linux is the Kernel. You can define it other ways, but you would be wrong. Android is running on Linux. Those libraries and tools, such as the GNU tools, can be installed on Android.
I think the marketing of Android is fraud. The common man has no idea he is using an operating system, Linux, made by volunteers for free. They credit some corporate giant. I think this is fraud and evil. I hope they will rot for it one day.
Not every tools gonna work, since kernel space mapped differently.
@@nathanlamaire , sir, does that mean that GNU's glibc can not be added on top of Android specific kernel because the kernel space is mapped differently?
@@deleater No, well a rooted android can do things as much as a normal linux. The terminal emulatir like termux will help you do that
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That's what I thought every time he made "Linux" sound like "Linus" 😂
Darkfire Blast You Got Me
It's because Linux derives from the name Linus (it's creator)
You usually cannot use a generic kernel on a phone. Android still requires some customization to the WiFi drivers even though the standard interface has all required features. Many of the special drivers are never sent to the mainline kernel.
Really really good video, you summed it up nicely without going too simple / brief or too overboard. I rarely give video likes, but you sincerely deserved one.
i see gary i hit LIKE
Yep!
me too
I see spongebob too
I so love Gary! 😍 Always leave a like when I watch his vids. so informative
so in future will we able to run desktop level apps on handheld devices, with cross compatibility?
Personally I use the manual functions very often.
Actually what I have noticed is that not all the smartphones offer a really complete set of parameters to control.
Gary what phone did you use for the video? What brand and model? It looks quite cool
How can I boot into Linux kernel? I wanna try some cli.
Hi Gary, could you please make a video about the HAL layer in android 8?
Thanks!
If I telnet to my Android tablet / phone device over a serial connection and run the ls program to get a listing of files … is this a GNU version of the ls program? Or, is it something that Google created themselves?
On that note, who wrote the telent or ssh server process that is running on my Android device? Is that Google's source code? Or, was it published by GNU?
This guy seems to really know his stuff. Great job explaining, man!
Thanks !
This is really awesome.
So Can we install kernel modules, which are compiled for ARM processor/architecture, in android kernel.
hey Garry, is UFS 2.1 slower than iphone's nvme storage?
So does Chrome OS also use the Bionic C library instead of LibC? or is there some other glue going on there?
But how hard would it be to get linux and Android apps to get along on the same system?
Thank you for this video. Please tell me if you use Amiga OS at all
Hi the expert, Please I have a problem and you are the only one who can help me ... I have a Tanix Tx3 android tv box, I installed Wordpress and Elelmentor ... So my problem, the famous Drag and Drop of the Elementor is not functional ... How to work around this problem! thank you so much
So can you run the app store? on any Linux distro?
Basically, kernel is the software or program which manages the hardware resources between OS and hardware? Am I right? I am confused.
Although the approach is different than most distribution, it's still based on Linux, so I would say it is Linux :)
love the way he does "lemme explain" thing. just amazing
This is far the best series of Android Anthority
Lars Nørgaard Larsen the only one I take time out to watch tbh
which smartwatch use gary ?
Thanks Gary. It's like trying to explain that just because Mercedes and Toyota use the internal combustion engine to power their cars it does not make either of them the same. Because after installing the motor the rest of the vehicle has different components that makes them independent. Thanks for the explanation.
next one: Is IOS Unix?
That is a good question!
lol
What is UNIX, POSIX, BSD, SysV?
Apple iOS is based on their own UNIX kernel and all its apps are developed in objective C. It is not a Linux kernel but I can not tell for sure that if you can run node.js on iOS.
iOS is based on OS X which is, itself, a variant of a BSD UNIX kernel running on top of a micro kernel called Mach.
Sure, because it is POSIX compliant.
Thanx, I'm an old know-nothing and I could understand this.
Now how does the Blackberry OS fit In?
Can you do a video on the microkernal "Magneta" from Google? thanks in advance!!
Gary always deserves a thumbs up for me. Thanks Gary!
love your videos. keep up the good work! thank you!
“Gnome/kde” *umm... how do you mix those together?*
Well, technically, there's nothing preventing you from installing them both on your favorite distro, and then picking one or the other every time you log in (yes for the same user. It works. I've done it once). But of course you can't have them both during the same session (arguably you can have apps from both). Yeah I noticed that little discrepancy as well ;)
@@levaChier Haha what a disaster. Even the both devs hate each other kde will crash gnome, gnome will bug kde. Everybody knows that
I genuinely learn so much from this video
the real question is: Is Gary a nano Sims or a micro Sims?
Pico Sims??
comedyman112 Dual sims
comedyman112 hybrid Sims
comedyman112 The next video title will be "is Gary Nano Sims or Garry Micro Sims? - Gary Explains!"
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what if you install a custom kernel?
Gary's words are shrouded in mystery. In sixfold he speaks these riddles. To me it seems that he doesn't really explain a whole lot. But he does it with pleasure.
3:50 Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Mac OS X use the same Kernel as Linux?
Tomas Zakrocki No, the Linux kernel and the kernel in macOS are very different.
Gary Sims Oh thanks for clearing that up.
If you install on Chrome the extension "Arc Welder" on every OS you can try to run an android apk.
what kernel does iOS run?
So when comparing with android we can say it’s GNU/linux and bionic/linux ?
Hey Gary!! Im not so familiar with Linux, but! A big question! If I got a Linux PC! And Android is Based on Linux. Can I instal Android into a Linux laptop? Or can I emulate Android in a Linux PC?
You can install Android-x86 on any laptop.
can GARY make a remix OS patch for windows 10 to run apk files in window ? PLEASE 😀😀😀😃😃
can you benchmark a Chromebook with antutu?
I've listened to so so so many videos trying to properly understand what Exactly a kernel is... THIS ONE DID IT. THANK YOU SO MUCHHH
Another great explanation Gary.. nice one!
Sir you explaination always easy to grasp.
very well explained,thank you.
why does not google built its own kernel???
why does it have to take name from Linux..or am i getting it worng??
Boy, Gary really loves explaining !! :3
btw UNIX creators said in their v7/v8 note: you can change anything of the os,but the kernel and still it will be called UNIX
Great video and great explanation!
Thank you for explaining as always Sir Gary.
Pretty sure your static-linked binaries compiled on the Raspberry would run on Darwin too (That's the kernel + toolchain for macOS and iOS. i.e. it's Apple's XNU (A combination of BSD, Mach and a lot of custom stuff) as well as Darwin tools derived again from a variety of sources, GNU, BSD and more.). macOS and iOS are in fact registered Unix variants, and Linux, whilst not registered, conforms enough to Unix specifications to apply for, I believe it's the third tier of classification, so they should to a large extend be inter compatible, as long as you don't use any of the things built on top of anything, like Cocoa or whatnot.
Casper S? I am not sure about that as at some point the statically linked binary needs to call the kernel and that needs binary compatibly at the kernel level.
Could you simplify/broaden what Mark Zuckerburg's(or how he made) JARVIS is please? :) I have the idea but I just want to know more and help other people understand it by watching your explanations Gary.
sir plz give corvos os realme 6 pro
Could you please make a more dumbed down version of this?
Ok I'm used to play around stuffs like this so watching your video gives me some idea about linux and android. What about non tech person? Will they understand most things you said in this video?
Rian P odds are if your watching this video you are more than capable of understanding stuff like this quit easy i would assume
Now the more important question is MacOS Unix?
Yeah he should make this video
love this videos very imformative for newbies on the linus field
what could possibly be the reason for Android not using GNU ?
Personally, I see the fact that it uses Linux at its core as enough reason to call it a Linux distro.
andy Rubin in alliance with three other guys built such unique operation system for mobile phone so what i wanna ask you is what did he exactly expect i mean was he sure about his idea about to shake the world the way it did exactly besz i somewhere read that he struggled to find money to launch android ?
With your definition every distro that doesn't use the Gnu Libraries is not Linux? Or am I misunderstanding something
Michi Lo Any examples of a Linux distro that doesn't use the GNU libraries?
Everything that does not use Gnu is not Gnu. However we have been calling Gnu/Linux “Linux”, this is confusing us.
Yet Android isn’t using the mainline Linux kernel, instead, it uses a branch, where drivers, etc. are written indepentently to those of the mainline kernel. Could you discuss this topic?
best gary video by far
Yep!
dat boi i disagree
Great video. Thanks Gary!
do a review about Nubia m2 please
great video! thanks Gary! :D :D :D
perhaps do a video on why Android smartphone updates are so difficult to do and take so long (other than the carrier delays and ect.)
Good Explanation. Now can we make a fully open source smart phone NOT controlled by Apple or Google ?
Kernel Sanders?
thank for your talk. It makes cognitive sense of it all for me. Cheers
Thank you for explaining this clearly.
Man I just love Gary explains
Your pronunciation of Linux is actually correct.
However, it's ironic that you do not pronounce "Linus" the same way.
You can chroot android on gnu/linux and the opposed too.
Nice explanation 😊👍
gary explains - best series ever.
You're awesome Gary, thank you!!
This question just pop up on my mind today for some reason
same here😂
I'm leaning towards Android however I can't modify it the way I want yet
in that case, Gary, would it be possible to have the Android libraries alongside the libraries of other distributions, like along side Debian, so that both Android and Debian apps can be run in the same environment without the need of virtualization?
best Android Authority Team member, by faaaar
Wasn't a fan of the usage of .DLL when talking about Linux library files. Why not just say the object file in /lib
Gary, please tell us about Android Runtime/Darvik. Is it virtual machine? Why does android need it? Desktop Linux can live without it.
Thank you.
Standard Android apps are written in Java (or Kotlin) and need a Java Virtual Machine to run. ART and Dalvik are Android's JVMs. Desktop Linux doesn't need a JVM if you aren't running any Java programs.
8th gen consoles uses Linux kernel as well (I can only tell on Xbox One).
When I was 9 years old, I built my first webpage and put a bunch of those Linux logos on there. I thought it was just some image of a penguin which was popular on the Web back then. It took me so long to figure it out. I felt retarded.
LOL
It's a modified Linux made into a Google/touch screen phone device distribution that keeps the user away from root by default.
Hi I'm Gary and Welcome to Linux Authority
What about Unix
I think the important difference is when we say "linux" we mean the kernel but with other open source stuff on top of it, if there is a lot of proprietary stuff on top then it goes farther and farther from being linux
whats your favorite linux disco ?
disco? Really?
areeb1296 I like elementary OS or anything with Gnome 3
Finally, my doubt got cleared
6:08 😂😂 my mind got blown
Great Video. Chrome and android are just specialized linux distros. If you understand major distros have projects specific to them. not to mention other Non-GNU distros . old distros don't use systemd. just because it comes with some software and a specialized gui it's still linux.
Great content
I loved your video!