*UPDATES: 1) HWUB Completed Entry Level Z690 VRM Testing. Looks Like Any ASUS, Gigabyte, or MSI Board ATX-sized will support up to a 12900K at acceptable VRM Temps. ASRock testing to come. 2) Z690 is having typical early adopter teething issues with XMP profiles and auto enabling VMD in the bios. Make sure you update to the latest motherboard bios before attempting to make any settings changes (including enabling XMP). If having drive recognition issues, ensure that VMD is disabled in the bios. ** Which Z690 Motherboards are you most interested in? What CPU are you considering? Tell your story in the comments below!
Building a machine with an i7-12700k and a ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming, I don’t see the worth in ddr5 at its price for the foreseeable future and enjoy the look of this mobo.
I originally went with the Asus Prime A, but then got a £75 voucher for a Strix F so took this one instead. I was happy to see that what you would have recommended as well!
This video just spoonfed me the information I was wondering about the compatibility issues of the upcoming mobos 'cus as soon as there's new cpu in town, mobos are always the first & big concern. Thanks a lot man.. really appreciate all your videos!
Thank goodness. I've been looking for someone I'm subscribed to to talk about these boards and help me sort out which board I may want to buy. Thanks Jason.
Exciting times!! I am so excited to see benchmarks of these chips and see how that price/performance ratio is looking in a few weeks/months after things have settled. I am currently rocking an i7-5820k, so I'm definitely interested in a potential upgrade!!! Looks pretty sweet! Great video. Thanks for all the great info. I'll definitely check out that Gigabyte Gaming X board if I end up upgrading (which I probably won't, yet, lol).
Thanks so much for the info! This was really helpful. I've always been a PC gamer, but have had friends help out (or they do it entirely) with my builds in the past. I'm taking a shot at picking my own parts, so this has been great to identify what features are desirable/necessary vs. what am I overspending on.
Great video for any one wanting to try out the new Tech. I waited 10 years to upgrade and two weeks after I do they have new better tech out. Got to love the way the computer world never stops improving, which is a good thing, most of the time it's six months before new stuff but my timing was simply bad. Not sure I would have went with the 12 Gen any way, it's to new, i'll let the bugs get worked out. Thanks for the info on the 4080 Audio, that is what my new board has and I'm going to go read up on it.
This is shaping up to be one of the messiest launches I’ve ever witnessed. The cooler compatibility situation is startlingly bad. Most sites have limited info on components for LGA1700. DDR5 hardly seems to exist. And Intel sets a same day NDA as launch!? This whole thing is painful. Was looking forward to it, but honestly Zen3D might be my next build.
I know Noctua/Scythe have pledged to give free mounting hardware for new sockets with proof of purchase, or you can buy for a few $. Not sure about other manufacturers. I'm kind of thinking about asking Scythe for an LGA 1700 kit for my Fuma 2 even though I'm not buying Alder Lake. Just so I have it for free.
Not only its hard to get but its probably terrible value compared to DDR4 3200/3600. That i5 might be really good but you are paying 100$ more for motherboard 100$ more for ram so might aswell compare it to like a r9
@@Mr.Danny2 Yeah but depending how the math works out, going DDR5 could get you on the better platform so that in a few years when you're looking to upgrade, you actually have an upgrade path, unlike DDR4, and thus end up saving more money long-term because you can keep your motherboard and just do CPU/RAM upgrades whenever it's good for you.
Bought everything but can't find any information about native lga 1700 coolers... this is so stupid. Corsair announced an overpriced LCD AIO without any release date but they are already shipping them to customers lol
Its generally hard for me to sit through a 25 minute video when people talk fluff (not this video)---I appreciate your style of continuous useful information. Watched the whole thing straight through. If you post more videos just like this (which I am sure you have) I'm sure I and many others will continuously watch your stuff. Thanks again for useful content.
Looking for more budget boards, the B660 that will be released later. Maybe with an i3. Hoping someone will market a B666 and call it 'One Hell of a Board!' With a red PCB.
Great video! I did not find a comparison of z690 motherboards in my native language. I started Googling and I'm very glad that I got your video. I bought Gigabyte Gaming X based on your recommendations and am now waiting for delivery. Thanks!
WOW thank you so much, you saved me from a huge mistake. I have the Z690 Taichi and I was about to order the DeepCool Ak620 air cooler when I found out that they say it is "compatible with LGA 1700" but in order for it to be compatible, you'd need to be sent a whole new bracket for it to work. Thank goodness because now I either have to make sure they send one with the cooler or get a completely different cooler all together! Thanks! I love your channel!
I have never used Gigabyte boards in the past. In my current builds, I am using a X570 Master in my main system and a X570l Pro ITX board in the other build for my child. What should I say, really good boards, nice quality, effective VRM, with good value/money. Also the bios support is fine. The RGB Fusion software and the general included software is - in my opinion - not as good as the MSI or Asus solutions. But I am happy with these boards 👍🏻
Best tech channel on the site; I love your videos, Jason. My only regret is not finding them sooner. Thanks for making this content not only digestible but enjoyable! Anyway, now that my fanboy is showing, I humbly seek your counsel. I won Newegg shuffle (finally) after months of entering and bought a 3070 TI and the Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Master ATX, which is only compatible w/ intel 10th & 11th gen CPUs. Can I make this work or should I try to sell the motherboard somewhere and get a new one compatible with either Ryzen 5600x or Alder lake? Since I'm relatively inexperienced (this is my first PC build) and I'm spending a pretty penny due to the current market, I don't want to settle for too little, ya feel? Plus DDR5 is tempting. Excited to finally have the GPU but the bundles are killing me.
I think you'll see a few discounts on 10th and 11th gen CPUs. I'd see about picking up an i5 11600K or i7 11700K and putting together a build with DDR4 memory (DDR5 is very out of stock, very expensive, and not really worth it). That's a nice motherboard, and I doubt you'll get much for it right now. But if you want, you can try selling it and go Alder Lake or Ryzen 5000.
@@PCBuilderChannel Wow, thank you Jason! While I initially wanted to kinda future proof but for my first build, I think the Z590 Master will suffice. I wanted Ryzen at first; I dabble w/ music production but don't do any video editing or intense production, so my focus would be gaming. With that in mind, Rocket Lake should work out fine, especially if I can find some sweet discounts. And I feel like I would lose money and time trying to sell that motherboard. I really appreciate your advice!
One thing watching through this video that I haven't really heard much about before... What do the different power stages for motherboards mean? Where can you usually find that stuff? If you're looking at similar price points is a higher power stage something you should almost always opt for, or does it entirely depend on all of the other components you're considering? Is it actually about making sure a board has baseline support for components, or is it more specifically important for overclocking? Kinda similarly, just how important is VRM quality?
That is one area that I thought about covering but decided it was more a CPU thing. Basically Intel is switching to AMD's methodology of constant boost states (about time). All the z690 motherboards that I'm aware of come with constant boost power states fully enabled so you don't even need to worry about the other power state as it is a relic of the past. You can always check in the bios to ensure you are in constant boost (P2).
Greater ability to provide high levels or current in a stable manner. The more stages and the more amperage they can provide, the better the stable overclock you can potentially achieve. Generally as long as the board is around 10+ power stages then normal overclocking should be stable. You do not need the insane 110A+ 19+ power stage boards unless you're doing something like liquid nitrogen overclocking.
Love the video! I jumped the gun and pre ordered an i7-12700k. Not sure if i should go DDR5 or DDR4. If DDR5 is twice as expensive i might as well buy twice the amount of DDR4 memory right? What would you recommend?
Just found your channel a few days ago, already one of my favourites. I'm quite the luddite and your explanations dont make me want to beat my head against the wall in confusion as much as many other channels. I understand SIs make it much easier for people to build computers because they more or less ensure compatibility and they assemble the machine in exchange for a fee, but are there (trustworthy) companies that take it a step further in exchange for a larger fee? Like I tell them what my current PC specs are, and the kinds of things I want to do with my new machine, and they pick the parts to get me what I want/need? Or is the only option to keep inundating myself with information and hope that someday down the line I know enough to use a SI with confidence.
Glad you are enjoying the channel! I don't have a ton of knowledge of custom builders but I would check out Skeytech IBuyPower and CyberPower PC. You might also want to check out our best prebuilt gaming video on the channel to see if a prebuilt is right for you
@@PCBuilderChannel I'll check them out. Most "custom builders" I've found help with "I want etched glass and custom RGB pipes for water cooling" (not me at all). Looking more for someone I can tell "I play XYZ games, want the machine to last 4+ years, don't give one hoot about RGB lighting, etc." and they pick the parts and assemble it. Pre-built seems great if I knew what specs I want/need. In the meantime I'll just keep watching :)
Hey Jason, in the beginning of the ultra budget section, you recommended avoiding the MSI Pro Z690-P (~$180), but what about the Z690-A ($220)? I was able to snag it at Best Buy locally and am still waiting for an LGA 1700 bracket from NZXT. However, I am wondering if the P version is something you would recommend against as well. Personally, I’m just trying to get something going on DDR4 for now so I can utilize this 3080TI, and then upgrade to a higher quality DDR5 board in 2 years or so after the memory prices come down. Also, thx for the content! I’ve watched through this video alone several times lol.
Let's goo!!!! HYPE! The Preorder bundle I'm getting: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4, ATX Intel Core i7-12700K, LGA1700, 3.60 GHz, 25MB, Boxed Kingston 32GB (2 x 16GB) FURY Renegade, DDR4 3600MHz, CL16, 1.35V Pretty good upgrade considering I have been using i5-4690k for 7 years ^^ No worries, it will come to some other use! I will try as best as possible use parts as long as their life span can hold!
I'm getting the 260 euro gigabyte Z690 aorus G DDR5 for audio production and casual gaming with an 12700K and evga3060TI. Anything I should know mate? I will overclock it 200mhz. I need the 4 M2 slot heatsink. I don't need thunderbolt now, I may add a thunderbolt expansion for a RME audio interface in the future. Maybe the RME will be PCI. Will it handle audio production well? And it's white!!!! Together with the Corsair 5000D airflow + 7 fans and a 360mm closes loop NXT X73 radiator. Thanks bro, I love these small channels with high quality content! Have a nice time I hope gents n' madams!
I'm not sure if you want to try operating it without that. If you are looking for an all White motherboard without the water cooling, check out the MSI Z690 Force which is all white - link in the description.
@@PCBuilderChannel I just ordered the MSI Carbon Wifi Z690 because the Force is out of stock until mid November. Do you happen to know what the main differences is? (I notice the Force is slightly cheaper)
This was harder than I thought. I am looking for a DDR4 board for the i9-12900k but almost all the recommendations I have found this far uses the I225-V network chip, which I have heard nothing but bad stuff about. And most of the Realtek network controller boards seem to not have the best VRM for the i9.
@@mikerzisu9508 For gaming? If you already have fast DDR4 the gains are virtually non existent. Couple of games that you might notice if everything else in your system is optimal. Same still applies with 13th gen although the 13900k is probably better with DDR5. (gaming, I'm not talking about any other activities)
I subscribed since I'm in the market for a new motherboard/CPU. I have an MSI B360 Gaming Plus with an i3-8350k so it's about that time.. Looking forward to an update to this video, thank you for this really informative video.
Great and valuable information. Definitely thumbs up. I have learnt quite a lot. I am new to pc building and you have helped me to understand motherboards for this generation.
*HELP!* I had planned a build with R5 5600x with some B550M board. The alder-lake release just made things difficult since the new i5-12600K costs the same as an R5 5600x and is quite better. Though the economic Z690s come 100€ more expensive than the economic B550s. And I'll probably end up using a Gen 3 SSD and a DDR4 ram (cheaper) regardless of the CPU and motherboard. So, if I wanna make a PC this November/December should I go for a R5 5600X or an I5-12600K? Is the new generation of AMD coming any time soon?
You could wait until tomorrow for the official results to come out for the i5 and make your decision then after seeing exactly how much extra you're getting
Performance numbers will come tomorrow so I'd just sit tight. I wouldn't be shocked if we see some discounts on Ryzen 5000 CPUs coming soon as AMD often responds with price cuts. But the new Alder Lake CPUs + Mobos are very expensive for sure. Still waiting for official word from AMD on V-Cache Ryzen 5000 refresh, but I've heard Q4 or Q1 (so soon).
@@Unvexed Yep, turns out a build with the Ryzen 7 5800x is more powerful, 50 bucks cheaper and seems to consume half the wattage compared to an i5-12600k build. So unless the i5-12600k has some advantage I haven't seen yet, maybe a gen 11 Ryzen build is still the choice. So hard to choose ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
@@El_Psy_Kongroo_ Maybe look at more reviews because your info is off. The 12600K is faster for gaming and doesnt draw anything like twice the power vs a 5800x, specifically when gaming. For some reason many reviewers have focused on power draw when stressing the CPU with a synthetic load (yes, Alder lake is very hungry in this use case) - this doesn’t reflect gaming power draw however, as some thankfully do bother to show. *E: Just to add to this, HUB just did a review of the 12600K, for gaming it sat on average between the 5600x and 5800x (closer to the 5800x), and power draw while gaming was LESS than a 5800x.
I was partly expecting an AMD announcement early this week to spoil Intel's launch, but so far haven't heard anything. Should be late Q4 2021 or early Q1 2022 last I heard.
Loved the information. I've just bought the Gigabyte z690 gaming X because of your video to pair with my I5 12600k. Thank you for all the usefull information.
i remember Z490 had the same issue with SFX boards where you either had terrible ones to avoid, or really good ones that were too expensive, without any middle ground. i was trying to make a MATX build for my dad around that time. ended up going AMD instead with a nice B550M Mortar board that just hit that sweetspot on price and features.
IMO, the mATX prices are highway robbery right now. But that's because most board partners seemed to avoid mATX (no steel legend, tuf gaming, bazooka series mATX motherboards).
Would like to see a video dedicated to the motherboards with integrated monoblocks for high-end custom loop builds. Asus Maximus Extreme Glacial has been the most impressive one I've seen so far; MSI God-like that's apparently the largest Z690 motherboard would be interesting to see having an integrated waterblock SKU, but it's been only teased so far.
Is the gigabyte gaming X still a good choice or has it been overtaken by anything else? I was looking at the MSI mpg gaming edge and msi tomahawk and am torn between the three. Currently the gaming X is still considerably cheaper but I'm worried I might be missing out. I have i5-12600k, rtx 3080 12gb (was going to get a 3060ti/3070ti but the prime sales were just too good) and am sticking with ddr4
can the difference in power stages between the asus prime p d4 and the gigabite gaming x ddr4 be huge, taking into account a use mainly related to gaming and without loading the CPU a lot
Is the asus prime ddr4 version good?? If the ddr5 version is good would the ddr4 version be good? Im looking for a white mobo build around $230 or under for a mobo
Hi Jason, 1st time builder here. What do you think is a fairly priced Z690 mobo for i5 12600k. I plan to only use DDR4. I'd like a good audio & enough room for future OC. Thanks!
Alright so question time, I'm at the point where I need a new build this gen. My current setup struggles too much with what I play for me to wait for another gen. If I'm trying to put together a build to last me 3-4 years, is it worth to go DDR5 now, and upgrade to better DDR5 kits in a year or 2 when they're readily available and less expensive overall? Or just stick with DDR4 for the next few years and wait for my next build to upgrade memory?
Check out our new i5 12600k build we launched on the channel today! I think it might help you think through these questions and could serve as a good base for your new build.
I have a z690-f motherboard, 12600k cpu and 3090 rtx msi gpu. What ddr5 rgb ram should I get please considering these factors. I got a kraken z73 cooler and 2tb Samsung pro ssd
Thank you for the very insightful videos. Do you have any motherboard suggestions that have ddr4 memory with at least 1 pcie 5.0 slot with pcie x16 v4.0 slots, and has the ability to add a thunderbolt 4 card. Any light you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
That's a pretty unique combo. Most of the boards with a PCIE 5.0 slot have DDR5. Given there aren't even any PCIE 5.0 devices yet, I'd forgo it. Most of the boards have thunderbolt 4 headers.
Thank you very much for your reply. Yes, I did. I would like at the very least 2 pcie version 4 x 16 slots electrically. One 16 lane electrically for a GPU and 2nd x16 slot for an ASUS 4x M.2 adapter card. Unfortunately, all z690 boards drop down to 8x8 lanes electrically when you fill in the first two slots. This is due to resource sharing issues of the chipset, because the 12th gen cpus only having 16 bus lanes. I think I will need to build a threadripper to get enough pcie lanes. Again, thank you for your time.
Looking at the Gigabyte boards, I’m not sure how the audio setup works. Seems like they are missing outputs other boards normally have. I see they are recommended but an audio problem would trip me up.
Hey do you think that the DDR4 version of the MSI Z690-P is better than the GIGABYTE Z690 UD DDR4 ? Which one would u recommend ? Thanks for the cool vid too !
I'd recommend the Gigabyte UD if just looking for the cheapest alternative. I like the Gigabyte Gaming X z690 if you want better audio, etc. Remember to fully update the bios to the latest version before making any bios changes, and turn off VMD if your SSD doesn't show up.
I go through that one in the video, I recommend it if you don't need the high end onboard audio (if so, I like the Gigabyte Gaming X but it has had some bugs, mostly which have now been worked out). Good budget offering from MSI.
@@PCBuilderChannel Yes thank you for the reply I dont really need the audio I dont use headphones. Only stereo with 3mm jack so I think the msi is the better option for me.
Some of the super high end z690 boards have them, but they are extremely expensive. A lot of the CPU coolers with the LCD pump heads like the gigabyte waterforce I show in the video can be configured to show temps at a much better price
@@PCBuilderChannel yeah how things change over the years with price...I have a MSI gaming motherboard that hosts 4790k and it was only $225 6 years ago that is loaded with temp gauge and love that feature! Thanks brother for you time!
I'm thinking about the same board, I'm down to the edge, tomahawk or the gigabyte gaming X. Only need the mobo and a new PSU and I can get started with my new pc
What's your experience with it? It's a great looking board and has a good set of features. I currently use their Z390 Carbon Pro Gaming (no idea if that's the correct order)
Excellent video and thanks for the info... Just a question though... the ASUS PRIME Z690-P I checked the the Asus site, and well it just mentions DDR4 not 5......its not that I really need DDR5 but I would like not to have to change boards after maybe a year or 2. Is it best to maybe wait a bit longer ....or is this a decent motherboard?
There's two versions of it, one for DDR4 and one for DDR5. Personally I'd stick with DDR4 this generation after seeing the test results. No real advantage to DDR5 right now.
@@Geek-jx3gw yeah its really good. Had 1 small issue as it wouldnt detect nvme ssd. Ended up updating bios to version F4 which was straight forward. Been fine since. Went for DDR4 4600 which is plenty fast 👍
Thanks for the video, very informative. I'm probably getting the Aorus Pro, but I also found the Aorus Ultra, however I could not find a single difference between the two except for a 40 euro higher price. Something to do with Vcore-vrm I imagine?
I bought an 11700k with a z590 ultra but I haven’t opened them. I was looking at the aero g gigabyte ddr4 and the 12700k but idk if the vrm will handle the turbo boost at higher sustained level. Would you recommend that setup together? Is it even worth it to upgrade from that? I do video editing, photo editing, gaming, and mild over clocking. I just haven’t built a computer in like 9 years and a lot has changed haha.
Should I buy a motherboard that support both ddr4 & 5? I'm building a PC i know worst timing. I'm in the middle of a gen switch..so should i build now or wait? Again, i don't wanna wait a year or 2years for them to release rtx 4000 n newer cpus.
There are no boards that support both DDR5 and DDR4. You need to choose one or the other. I strongly recommend DDR4 given that DDR5 is virtually unavailable, overpriced, and offers very little advantage.
@@PCBuilderChannel it would be stupid to try to wait for rtx 4000 and let's say ryzen 6000/7000 whatever their title is.. I shouldn't wait for this right?, my plan is to go 3080ti 5950x 64gig ram 1000w power supply.
I'm standing in line right now before doors open for a 12700k and motherboard. I was aiming for an MSI Pro Z690-A, but now after watching this I'll try to get the Gigabyte Gaming X instead. Thanks for the video, really helpful! I've been standing out in the cold for two hours, one more to go :)
@@PCBuilderChannel Thanks! When I got in the store, there were only TWO motherboards total on shelves. And I managed to get one of them! 12700k and MSI Pro Z690-A Wifi secured :)
More or less. Pricing has changed so check the links for current pricing. Boards had issues with XMP profiles so make sure to fully update the bios to the latest version before changing any settings.
Thanks for such an informative introduction. I bought Asus Rog Strix z690g gaming Wifi. There is a good deal in my place. We got a free Asus ROG RYUJIN II 240 by buying Asus Rog Strix Z690g motherboard. That is a nice steal. :D
I'm actually looking at the Asus TUF Gaming Z690 Plus, current on sale at $249. You mentioned that it has "weaker features than the Gigabyte Gaming X". Not sure what features are weaker. I'm leaning towards this board because I currently have a Asus Sabertooth p67 TUF board (yea over 10 yrs old - but its still going !) I don't know if the TUF features are that much different than other Asus Prime or the Gigabyte boards. And I'm still wavering between the i5 12600KF and the i7 12700KF ( I already bought an EVGA 3070Ti FTW GPU). And I'm going with DDR4 because the DDR5 is still very high $$ and I'm not an extreme gamer / over clocker, so not sure the performance difference is worth the price difference, for me, between DDR4 and 5. Jason, any advice would be greatly appreciated!! thanks
Hello, this has nothing to do with this video but I have a question regarding the differences that the monitor 4k ASUS TUF vs the Amazon 4-series 4k fire tv would have on my experience in playing my PS5. Can you answer me that?
Thanks for the super complete review! Would you suggest buying an ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-F GAMING WI-FI DDR5 for an i9 12900K? Right now in my country it's the cheapest board, and it supports previous cooler solutions...
*UPDATES: 1) HWUB Completed Entry Level Z690 VRM Testing. Looks Like Any ASUS, Gigabyte, or MSI Board ATX-sized will support up to a 12900K at acceptable VRM Temps. ASRock testing to come. 2) Z690 is having typical early adopter teething issues with XMP profiles and auto enabling VMD in the bios. Make sure you update to the latest motherboard bios before attempting to make any settings changes (including enabling XMP). If having drive recognition issues, ensure that VMD is disabled in the bios. **
Which Z690 Motherboards are you most interested in? What CPU are you considering? Tell your story in the comments below!
I think i will Be on the fence on this intel stuff. Not an Intel Fans due to its price to Performance
AMD all the way
Building a machine with an i7-12700k and a ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming, I don’t see the worth in ddr5 at its price for the foreseeable future and enjoy the look of this mobo.
I originally went with the Asus Prime A, but then got a £75 voucher for a Strix F so took this one instead. I was happy to see that what you would have recommended as well!
I preordered a i7 12700k. Don’t need the extra cores and it looks like it will be noticeably faster.
This video just spoonfed me the information I was wondering about the compatibility issues of the upcoming mobos 'cus as soon as there's new cpu in town, mobos are always the first & big concern. Thanks a lot man.. really appreciate all your videos!
Glad I could help!
Thank goodness. I've been looking for someone I'm subscribed to to talk about these boards and help me sort out which board I may want to buy.
Thanks Jason.
This was fun! And a lot of work :)
Exciting times!! I am so excited to see benchmarks of these chips and see how that price/performance ratio is looking in a few weeks/months after things have settled. I am currently rocking an i7-5820k, so I'm definitely interested in a potential upgrade!!! Looks pretty sweet! Great video. Thanks for all the great info. I'll definitely check out that Gigabyte Gaming X board if I end up upgrading (which I probably won't, yet, lol).
Hi Funkadelic! Glad this was helpful for your future upgrade (:
Just found your channel and I appreciate the info! Love how you keep the engagement going in the comments
Welcome to the channel! I try to respond to everyone within a couple days if I can!
Thanks so much for the info! This was really helpful. I've always been a PC gamer, but have had friends help out (or they do it entirely) with my builds in the past. I'm taking a shot at picking my own parts, so this has been great to identify what features are desirable/necessary vs. what am I overspending on.
Glad I could help. Remember getting a GPU right now is challenging due to the shortage, so grab that first.
Great video for any one wanting to try out the new Tech. I waited 10 years to upgrade and two weeks after I do they have new better tech out. Got to love the way the computer world never stops improving, which is a good thing, most of the time it's six months before new stuff but my timing was simply bad. Not sure I would have went with the 12 Gen any way, it's to new, i'll let the bugs get worked out. Thanks for the info on the 4080 Audio, that is what my new board has and I'm going to go read up on it.
Congrats on the new build!!!
Your conent is just what I like to see. Great job - hope you reach the 80k Subscriber mark very soon! You deserve Millions of Subs
Thanks! We hit 80K subs this morning!! Not sure if it shows on the public page yet (always a lag between TH-cam studio and public stats).
@@PCBuilderChannel You deserve it and congrats :)
This is shaping up to be one of the messiest launches I’ve ever witnessed. The cooler compatibility situation is startlingly bad. Most sites have limited info on components for LGA1700. DDR5 hardly seems to exist. And Intel sets a same day NDA as launch!? This whole thing is painful. Was looking forward to it, but honestly Zen3D might be my next build.
Yes, we'll see how it goes! I'm having a hard time getting DDR5 memory kits so I can't imagine for a regular consumer.
I know Noctua/Scythe have pledged to give free mounting hardware for new sockets with proof of purchase, or you can buy for a few $.
Not sure about other manufacturers.
I'm kind of thinking about asking Scythe for an LGA 1700 kit for my Fuma 2 even though I'm not buying Alder Lake. Just so I have it for free.
Not only its hard to get but its probably terrible value compared to DDR4 3200/3600. That i5 might be really good but you are paying 100$ more for motherboard 100$ more for ram so might aswell compare it to like a r9
@@Mr.Danny2 Yeah but depending how the math works out, going DDR5 could get you on the better platform so that in a few years when you're looking to upgrade, you actually have an upgrade path, unlike DDR4, and thus end up saving more money long-term because you can keep your motherboard and just do CPU/RAM upgrades whenever it's good for you.
Bought everything but can't find any information about native lga 1700 coolers... this is so stupid. Corsair announced an overpriced LCD AIO without any release date but they are already shipping them to customers lol
Good job Jason. Keep it up!
Thank you!!!
Its generally hard for me to sit through a 25 minute video when people talk fluff (not this video)---I appreciate your style of continuous useful information. Watched the whole thing straight through. If you post more videos just like this (which I am sure you have) I'm sure I and many others will continuously watch your stuff. Thanks again for useful content.
Thank you for the feedback! So glad you enjoyed
I'm a sucker for high end asus strix motherboards like these
Really informative video mate, well done!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
Looking for more budget boards, the B660 that will be released later. Maybe with an i3. Hoping someone will market a B666 and call it 'One Hell of a Board!' With a red PCB.
This was a great video, thanks for catching me up to speed so efficiently
Great video! I did not find a comparison of z690 motherboards in my native language. I started Googling and I'm very glad that I got your video.
I bought Gigabyte Gaming X based on your recommendations and am now waiting for delivery.
Thanks!
Glad I could help! Good luck on the build!
can you do a updated version please and thanks
WOW thank you so much, you saved me from a huge mistake. I have the Z690 Taichi and I was about to order the DeepCool Ak620 air cooler when I found out that they say it is "compatible with LGA 1700" but in order for it to be compatible, you'd need to be sent a whole new bracket for it to work. Thank goodness because now I either have to make sure they send one with the cooler or get a completely different cooler all together! Thanks! I love your channel!
So glad we could help! And thanks for letting us know.
I have never used Gigabyte boards in the past. In my current builds, I am using a X570 Master in my main system and a X570l Pro ITX board in the other build for my child. What should I say, really good boards, nice quality, effective VRM, with good value/money. Also the bios support is fine. The RGB Fusion software and the general included software is - in my opinion - not as good as the MSI or Asus solutions. But I am happy with these boards 👍🏻
Best tech channel on the site; I love your videos, Jason. My only regret is not finding them sooner. Thanks for making this content not only digestible but enjoyable! Anyway, now that my fanboy is showing, I humbly seek your counsel. I won Newegg shuffle (finally) after months of entering and bought a 3070 TI and the Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Master ATX, which is only compatible w/ intel 10th & 11th gen CPUs. Can I make this work or should I try to sell the motherboard somewhere and get a new one compatible with either Ryzen 5600x or Alder lake? Since I'm relatively inexperienced (this is my first PC build) and I'm spending a pretty penny due to the current market, I don't want to settle for too little, ya feel? Plus DDR5 is tempting. Excited to finally have the GPU but the bundles are killing me.
I think you'll see a few discounts on 10th and 11th gen CPUs. I'd see about picking up an i5 11600K or i7 11700K and putting together a build with DDR4 memory (DDR5 is very out of stock, very expensive, and not really worth it). That's a nice motherboard, and I doubt you'll get much for it right now. But if you want, you can try selling it and go Alder Lake or Ryzen 5000.
@@PCBuilderChannel Wow, thank you Jason! While I initially wanted to kinda future proof but for my first build, I think the Z590 Master will suffice. I wanted Ryzen at first; I dabble w/ music production but don't do any video editing or intense production, so my focus would be gaming. With that in mind, Rocket Lake should work out fine, especially if I can find some sweet discounts. And I feel like I would lose money and time trying to sell that motherboard. I really appreciate your advice!
One thing watching through this video that I haven't really heard much about before... What do the different power stages for motherboards mean? Where can you usually find that stuff? If you're looking at similar price points is a higher power stage something you should almost always opt for, or does it entirely depend on all of the other components you're considering? Is it actually about making sure a board has baseline support for components, or is it more specifically important for overclocking? Kinda similarly, just how important is VRM quality?
That is one area that I thought about covering but decided it was more a CPU thing. Basically Intel is switching to AMD's methodology of constant boost states (about time). All the z690 motherboards that I'm aware of come with constant boost power states fully enabled so you don't even need to worry about the other power state as it is a relic of the past. You can always check in the bios to ensure you are in constant boost (P2).
Greater ability to provide high levels or current in a stable manner. The more stages and the more amperage they can provide, the better the stable overclock you can potentially achieve.
Generally as long as the board is around 10+ power stages then normal overclocking should be stable. You do not need the insane 110A+ 19+ power stage boards unless you're doing something like liquid nitrogen overclocking.
ur info and ur channel is like no other good work
Love the video!
I jumped the gun and pre ordered an i7-12700k. Not sure if i should go DDR5 or DDR4. If DDR5 is twice as expensive i might as well buy twice the amount of DDR4 memory right? What would you recommend?
Its not clear to me yet which is best. Right now from a price to performance standpoint I think ddr4, but we will have a better sense soon.
Just found your channel a few days ago, already one of my favourites. I'm quite the luddite and your explanations dont make me want to beat my head against the wall in confusion as much as many other channels.
I understand SIs make it much easier for people to build computers because they more or less ensure compatibility and they assemble the machine in exchange for a fee, but are there (trustworthy) companies that take it a step further in exchange for a larger fee? Like I tell them what my current PC specs are, and the kinds of things I want to do with my new machine, and they pick the parts to get me what I want/need?
Or is the only option to keep inundating myself with information and hope that someday down the line I know enough to use a SI with confidence.
Glad you are enjoying the channel! I don't have a ton of knowledge of custom builders but I would check out Skeytech IBuyPower and CyberPower PC. You might also want to check out our best prebuilt gaming video on the channel to see if a prebuilt is right for you
@@PCBuilderChannel I'll check them out. Most "custom builders" I've found help with "I want etched glass and custom RGB pipes for water cooling" (not me at all). Looking more for someone I can tell "I play XYZ games, want the machine to last 4+ years, don't give one hoot about RGB lighting, etc." and they pick the parts and assemble it.
Pre-built seems great if I knew what specs I want/need.
In the meantime I'll just keep watching :)
Hey Jason, in the beginning of the ultra budget section, you recommended avoiding the MSI Pro Z690-P (~$180), but what about the Z690-A ($220)? I was able to snag it at Best Buy locally and am still waiting for an LGA 1700 bracket from NZXT. However, I am wondering if the P version is something you would recommend against as well.
Personally, I’m just trying to get something going on DDR4 for now so I can utilize this 3080TI, and then upgrade to a higher quality DDR5 board in 2 years or so after the memory prices come down.
Also, thx for the content! I’ve watched through this video alone several times lol.
i just got the Z690-p ;-;
What do you think about Evga Classified?
So... where do you place the MSI TOMAHAWK on the tier?
Thanks for the awesome video.
Thank you so much for this advice! I went with the gigabyte gaming x z690. Really excited!
Im going for an i5-12600k, mostly gaming.
Glad we could help!
Awesome! Check out the i5-12600k build we just did on the channel today!
Great Video! TU! Please consider reviewing the E-ATX MOBO. Thx Again’
Whoa the channel is growing! Have been mia
We are growing so fast! We really appreciate the support (:
cant wait for ur take on z790
Yes! When the they launch we plan to do a Best Intel Motherboard 2022 video so stay tuned!
These videos actually help so much, motherboard info can be kinda hard to understand etc
Glad it helps! It takes a lot of work to get all this info together, screen all the motherboards, look at shifting pricing, come to a conclusion, etc!
considering getting an i9-12900k before the christmas pump (probably too late but the performance is worth it). As always, great info
Let's goo!!!! HYPE!
The Preorder bundle I'm getting:
Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4, ATX
Intel Core i7-12700K, LGA1700, 3.60 GHz, 25MB, Boxed
Kingston 32GB (2 x 16GB) FURY Renegade, DDR4 3600MHz, CL16, 1.35V
Pretty good upgrade considering I have been using i5-4690k for 7 years ^^
No worries, it will come to some other use! I will try as best as possible use parts as long as their life span can hold!
Please put the price for each item
I'm getting the 260 euro gigabyte Z690 aorus G DDR5 for audio production and casual gaming with an 12700K and evga3060TI. Anything I should know mate? I will overclock it 200mhz. I need the 4 M2 slot heatsink. I don't need thunderbolt now, I may add a thunderbolt expansion for a RME audio interface in the future. Maybe the RME will be PCI. Will it handle audio production well? And it's white!!!! Together with the Corsair 5000D airflow + 7 fans and a 360mm closes loop NXT X73 radiator. Thanks bro, I love these small channels with high quality content! Have a nice time I hope gents n' madams!
I chose the z690 UD ddr5 version to go with my 12900k. Hopefully everything will go smooth.
Thanks recently I want to update my rig Wich right know I have sandy bridge, did you recommend DDR5 to future
Nice video! Do you have to use the water cooling for VRAMS on the ASUS Z690 Formula or is it optional? I want to get it to complete my white build.
I'm not sure if you want to try operating it without that. If you are looking for an all White motherboard without the water cooling, check out the MSI Z690 Force which is all white - link in the description.
@@PCBuilderChannel I just ordered the MSI Carbon Wifi Z690 because the Force is out of stock until mid November. Do you happen to know what the main differences is? (I notice the Force is slightly cheaper)
This was harder than I thought. I am looking for a DDR4 board for the i9-12900k but almost all the recommendations I have found this far uses the I225-V network chip, which I have heard nothing but bad stuff about. And most of the Realtek network controller boards seem to not have the best VRM for the i9.
Should go ddr5
@@mikerzisu9508 For gaming? If you already have fast DDR4 the gains are virtually non existent. Couple of games that you might notice if everything else in your system is optimal. Same still applies with 13th gen although the 13900k is probably better with DDR5. (gaming, I'm not talking about any other activities)
I subscribed since I'm in the market for a new motherboard/CPU. I have an MSI B360 Gaming Plus with an i3-8350k so it's about that time.. Looking forward to an update to this video, thank you for this really informative video.
Welcome to the channel! Thank you for watching
Great and valuable information. Definitely thumbs up. I have learnt quite a lot. I am new to pc building and you have helped me to understand motherboards for this generation.
Thank you for the great feedback! It means a lot to us. Glad we could help!
I just bought the aorus elite ddr4 super excited for this upgrade only paid 230 on sale
*HELP!* I had planned a build with R5 5600x with some B550M board. The alder-lake release just made things difficult since the new i5-12600K costs the same as an R5 5600x and is quite better. Though the economic Z690s come 100€ more expensive than the economic B550s. And I'll probably end up using a Gen 3 SSD and a DDR4 ram (cheaper) regardless of the CPU and motherboard.
So, if I wanna make a PC this November/December should I go for a R5 5600X or an I5-12600K?
Is the new generation of AMD coming any time soon?
You could wait until tomorrow for the official results to come out for the i5 and make your decision then after seeing exactly how much extra you're getting
Performance numbers will come tomorrow so I'd just sit tight. I wouldn't be shocked if we see some discounts on Ryzen 5000 CPUs coming soon as AMD often responds with price cuts. But the new Alder Lake CPUs + Mobos are very expensive for sure. Still waiting for official word from AMD on V-Cache Ryzen 5000 refresh, but I've heard Q4 or Q1 (so soon).
I’m guessing that getting a z690 and an 12600k would be more expensive or around the same price as a 5800x with a b550.
@@Unvexed Yep, turns out a build with the Ryzen 7 5800x is more powerful, 50 bucks cheaper and seems to consume half the wattage compared to an i5-12600k build. So unless the i5-12600k has some advantage I haven't seen yet, maybe a gen 11 Ryzen build is still the choice. So hard to choose ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
@@El_Psy_Kongroo_ Maybe look at more reviews because your info is off. The 12600K is faster for gaming and doesnt draw anything like twice the power vs a 5800x, specifically when gaming. For some reason many reviewers have focused on power draw when stressing the CPU with a synthetic load (yes, Alder lake is very hungry in this use case) - this doesn’t reflect gaming power draw however, as some thankfully do bother to show.
*E: Just to add to this, HUB just did a review of the 12600K, for gaming it sat on average between the 5600x and 5800x (closer to the 5800x), and power draw while gaming was LESS than a 5800x.
which should i get the aero g ddr4 or the gaming x ddr4?
Does asus b560m tuf gaming wifi suitable for i7 12700k ?
12th gen processors only work with Z690 chipset motherboards. The 500 series works with 10th and 11th gen only.
@@PCBuilderChannel Understood. But can we still use Rtx 3060 & DDR 4?
Is this guide still accurate or should we do some more reserach?
Will the Gigabyte Gaming X be any good for i7 and a overclock?
Hi which lga 1700 motherboard has sli compatiblity?
Out of all of the Alder Lake CPUs I'm kinda leaning towards 12700k, but I do wanna wait for AMDs offerings.
I was partly expecting an AMD announcement early this week to spoil Intel's launch, but so far haven't heard anything. Should be late Q4 2021 or early Q1 2022 last I heard.
Loved the information. I've just bought the Gigabyte z690 gaming X because of your video to pair with my I5 12600k. Thank you for all the usefull information.
Happy to help!
i remember Z490 had the same issue with SFX boards where you either had terrible ones to avoid, or really good ones that were too expensive, without any middle ground.
i was trying to make a MATX build for my dad around that time. ended up going AMD instead with a nice B550M Mortar board that just hit that sweetspot on price and features.
IMO, the mATX prices are highway robbery right now. But that's because most board partners seemed to avoid mATX (no steel legend, tuf gaming, bazooka series mATX motherboards).
Would like to see a video dedicated to the motherboards with integrated monoblocks for high-end custom loop builds. Asus Maximus Extreme Glacial has been the most impressive one I've seen so far; MSI God-like that's apparently the largest Z690 motherboard would be interesting to see having an integrated waterblock SKU, but it's been only teased so far.
Sounds interesting, but that's more a Jays Two Cents kind of thing as I don't do extreme overclocking generally.
Crazy to see this guys channel grow so fast
We sure appreciate the support!
@@PCBuilderChannel i like how much you cover it’s really helpful
Is the gigabyte gaming X still a good choice or has it been overtaken by anything else? I was looking at the MSI mpg gaming edge and msi tomahawk and am torn between the three. Currently the gaming X is still considerably cheaper but I'm worried I might be missing out. I have i5-12600k, rtx 3080 12gb (was going to get a 3060ti/3070ti but the prime sales were just too good) and am sticking with ddr4
I also have this questio
@@Bronkeykong I ended up with the tomahawk as it was discounted. Works fine, looks good (not as RGB blingy as the edge)easy to install.
I need a motherboard with these features:
- ATX
- Z690 Lga1700
- supports ddr4 and ddr5
and i need wifi, please help
Kouna kaun sa processor kam Karega
whats your opinion on EVGA classified 690 board
can the difference in power stages between the asus prime p d4 and the gigabite gaming x ddr4 be huge, taking into account a use mainly related to gaming and without loading the CPU a lot
at the same price what would you recommend?
If you are looking for a cheaper Z690, I like the Gigabyte UD or the MSI Pro-P.
Is the asus prime ddr4 version good?? If the ddr5 version is good would the ddr4 version be good? Im looking for a white mobo build around $230 or under for a mobo
Hi Jason, 1st time builder here. What do you think is a fairly priced Z690 mobo for i5 12600k. I plan to only use DDR4. I'd like a good audio & enough room for future OC. Thanks!
I still like the gigabyte gaming x, the aorus elite, or the msi tomahawk linked
@@PCBuilderChannel Thank you so much!!
Nice video! Which mainboard for the new i5 12600K is the best?
Check out our i5 12600k build video we launched on the channel today!
Z690 AORUS XTREME is a good board.
Would the Gaming X handle a 12900k?, or is it best to step up a tier?
Alright so question time, I'm at the point where I need a new build this gen. My current setup struggles too much with what I play for me to wait for another gen. If I'm trying to put together a build to last me 3-4 years, is it worth to go DDR5 now, and upgrade to better DDR5 kits in a year or 2 when they're readily available and less expensive overall? Or just stick with DDR4 for the next few years and wait for my next build to upgrade memory?
Check out our new i5 12600k build we launched on the channel today! I think it might help you think through these questions and could serve as a good base for your new build.
I have a z690-f motherboard, 12600k cpu and 3090 rtx msi gpu. What ddr5 rgb ram should I get please considering these factors. I got a kraken z73 cooler and 2tb Samsung pro ssd
Thank you for the very insightful videos. Do you have any motherboard suggestions that have ddr4 memory with at least 1 pcie 5.0 slot with pcie x16 v4.0 slots, and has the ability to add a thunderbolt 4 card. Any light you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
That's a pretty unique combo. Most of the boards with a PCIE 5.0 slot have DDR5. Given there aren't even any PCIE 5.0 devices yet, I'd forgo it. Most of the boards have thunderbolt 4 headers.
Have you looked at the ASUS Prime Z690-P WiFi D4 (DDR4 version)?
Thank you very much for your reply. Yes, I did. I would like at the very least 2 pcie version 4 x 16 slots electrically. One 16 lane electrically for a GPU and 2nd x16 slot for an ASUS 4x M.2 adapter card. Unfortunately, all z690 boards drop down to 8x8 lanes electrically when you fill in the first two slots. This is due to resource sharing issues of the chipset, because the 12th gen cpus only having 16 bus lanes. I think I will need to build a threadripper to get enough pcie lanes. Again, thank you for your time.
Would you still recommend avoiding an entry level Z690 even if it’s the same price as a high end B660? Thanks!
Looking to get the “MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard” what do you think of that one? do you think it’s worth it to upgrade to DDR5?
Looking at the Gigabyte boards, I’m not sure how the audio setup works. Seems like they are missing outputs other boards normally have. I see they are recommended but an audio problem would trip me up.
So what do you think about that MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk WIFI DDR4 is out now?
Im really stuck on which motherboard to get for my i7 12700k, any thoughts? Mainly just for gaming
Hi sir I’m new I’m this world of the pc gamer but I’m have a important question should I wait for the new generation or I’m build pc now
There is always something new on the horizon. My advice is, if you need a PC now, no reason to wait for the "perfect" moment.
Hey do you think that the DDR4 version of the MSI Z690-P is better than the GIGABYTE Z690 UD DDR4 ? Which one would u recommend ? Thanks for the cool vid too !
I'd recommend the Gigabyte UD if just looking for the cheapest alternative. I like the Gigabyte Gaming X z690 if you want better audio, etc. Remember to fully update the bios to the latest version before making any bios changes, and turn off VMD if your SSD doesn't show up.
12:01 can i Do cpu and memory overclock with this board gigabyte aorus elite z690 wifi plz reply sir
Yes that's an unlocked board meant for K-series CPUs, but note it will only overclock K series CPUs.
@@PCBuilderChannel thank you
Whats your thoughts on MSI PRO Z690-A ? I like that its cheaper board that supports ddr5 do you think its good in combo with 12600k?
I go through that one in the video, I recommend it if you don't need the high end onboard audio (if so, I like the Gigabyte Gaming X but it has had some bugs, mostly which have now been worked out). Good budget offering from MSI.
@@PCBuilderChannel Yes thank you for the reply I dont really need the audio I dont use headphones. Only stereo with 3mm jack so I think the msi is the better option for me.
is GIGABYTE Z690 UD AX DDR4 still have problems?
Which recommended boards have CPU digital temperature readout on them?
Some of the super high end z690 boards have them, but they are extremely expensive. A lot of the CPU coolers with the LCD pump heads like the gigabyte waterforce I show in the video can be configured to show temps at a much better price
@@PCBuilderChannel yeah how things change over the years with price...I have a MSI gaming motherboard that hosts 4790k and it was only $225 6 years ago that is loaded with temp gauge and love that feature! Thanks brother for you time!
I looked at all of them. I chose the MSI z690 edge wifi. Great board, really heavey duty pcb and the best rgb
I'm thinking about the same board, I'm down to the edge, tomahawk or the gigabyte gaming X. Only need the mobo and a new PSU and I can get started with my new pc
What's your experience with it? It's a great looking board and has a good set of features. I currently use their Z390 Carbon Pro Gaming (no idea if that's the correct order)
Excellent video and thanks for the info... Just a question though... the ASUS PRIME Z690-P I checked the the Asus site, and well it just mentions DDR4 not 5......its not that I really need DDR5 but I would like not to have to change boards after maybe a year or 2. Is it best to maybe wait a bit longer ....or is this a decent motherboard?
There's two versions of it, one for DDR4 and one for DDR5. Personally I'd stick with DDR4 this generation after seeing the test results. No real advantage to DDR5 right now.
@@PCBuilderChannel thanks for getting back to me. Appreciate the advice 😊👍
Gone for the Gigabyte z690 Gaming X and ddr4 4600. :)
@@MrMspidyM how is it?
@@Geek-jx3gw yeah its really good. Had 1 small issue as it wouldnt detect nvme ssd. Ended up updating bios to version F4 which was straight forward. Been fine since. Went for DDR4 4600 which is plenty fast 👍
Thanks for the video, very informative. I'm probably getting the Aorus Pro, but I also found the Aorus Ultra, however I could not find a single difference between the two except for a 40 euro higher price. Something to do with Vcore-vrm I imagine?
I actually go through that in the video, the only difference is the increased power stages (:
@@PCBuilderChannel Oh thanks, silly me I generally tend to skip in video's since I'm impatient like that. Thanks!
Does this chipset support onboard nvme SSD RAID?
Should I return my MSI pro ddr4 I bought from Best Buy? The better audio on the Gaming X makes me want that more.
hello I like Asrock Mb what would u recommend preferably with bluetooth please and ty =)
Z690 Extreme is pretty good for the price if you can find it.
@@PCBuilderChannel Awesome ty so much it's appreciated
@PC Builder im sry I forgot will it be fine for a i7 12700k
what for i3 12100f
Look for a budget B660 motherboard. I'll have a video on them once more come to market.
I bought an 11700k with a z590 ultra but I haven’t opened them. I was looking at the aero g gigabyte ddr4 and the 12700k but idk if the vrm will handle the turbo boost at higher sustained level. Would you recommend that setup together? Is it even worth it to upgrade from that?
I do video editing, photo editing, gaming, and mild over clocking. I just haven’t built a computer in like 9 years and a lot has changed haha.
Heard that.
Thank you very much for this video, it really helped me to choose my motherboard.
Glad I could help!
Trying to configure a gaming build for this Fall, are there any known major issues with the Asus Prime Z690-P or Z690-A from owners out there?
Is
MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4
good MOBO for i7-12700K and RTX 3080?
Yes good board.
Should I buy a motherboard that support both ddr4 & 5? I'm building a PC i know worst timing. I'm in the middle of a gen switch..so should i build now or wait? Again, i don't wanna wait a year or 2years for them to release rtx 4000 n newer cpus.
There are no boards that support both DDR5 and DDR4. You need to choose one or the other. I strongly recommend DDR4 given that DDR5 is virtually unavailable, overpriced, and offers very little advantage.
@@PCBuilderChannel it would be stupid to try to wait for rtx 4000 and let's say ryzen 6000/7000 whatever their title is.. I shouldn't wait for this right?, my plan is to go 3080ti 5950x 64gig ram 1000w power supply.
I'm standing in line right now before doors open for a 12700k and motherboard. I was aiming for an MSI Pro Z690-A, but now after watching this I'll try to get the Gigabyte Gaming X instead. Thanks for the video, really helpful! I've been standing out in the cold for two hours, one more to go :)
Stay warm! Good luck on the build!!!
@@PCBuilderChannel Thanks! When I got in the store, there were only TWO motherboards total on shelves. And I managed to get one of them! 12700k and MSI Pro Z690-A Wifi secured :)
@@ishJJx3 Hi, how's the mobo now?
Any chance to get an update on this video?
Is this list still holding up a few months later? Mobos are turning out to be the most difficult thing to research and decide on for me LOL
More or less. Pricing has changed so check the links for current pricing. Boards had issues with XMP profiles so make sure to fully update the bios to the latest version before changing any settings.
Do you know if they support DDR3
No, no new platform has supported DDR3 in years
Is the Gigabyte's Aero G a good mobo as well for i5-12600?
yes, similar to the Aorus Elite but with more rear panel connectivity. Check out our i5-12600k build guide we launched on the channel on Saturday
Thanks for such an informative introduction. I bought Asus Rog Strix z690g gaming Wifi. There is a good deal in my place. We got a free Asus ROG RYUJIN II 240 by buying Asus Rog Strix Z690g motherboard. That is a nice steal. :D
Nice!
I'm actually looking at the Asus TUF Gaming Z690 Plus, current on sale at $249. You mentioned that it has "weaker features than the Gigabyte Gaming X". Not sure what features are weaker. I'm leaning towards this board because I currently have a Asus Sabertooth p67 TUF board (yea over 10 yrs old - but its still going !) I don't know if the TUF features are that much different than other Asus Prime or the Gigabyte boards. And I'm still wavering between the i5 12600KF and the i7 12700KF ( I already bought an EVGA 3070Ti FTW GPU). And I'm going with DDR4 because the DDR5 is still very high $$ and I'm not an extreme gamer / over clocker, so not sure the performance difference is worth the price difference, for me, between DDR4 and 5. Jason, any advice would be greatly appreciated!! thanks
Its got a good but weaker audio codec and really no other additional features over the Gaming X.
@@PCBuilderChannel Thanks !
This is a great video, that is helping a lot of people (I am going with the AORUS Pro myself)
Glad it was helpful! I just released a best i5 12600K build video. Check it out!
Hello, this has nothing to do with this video but I have a question regarding the differences that the monitor 4k ASUS TUF vs the Amazon 4-series 4k fire tv would have on my experience in playing my PS5. Can you answer me that?
Thanks for the super complete review!
Would you suggest buying an ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-F GAMING WI-FI DDR5 for an i9 12900K?
Right now in my country it's the cheapest board, and it supports previous cooler solutions...
It’s a good board, I’d get the ddr4 version
would the GIGABYTE Z690 GAMING X DDR4 be good enough and supply enough power to the i7 13700kf ?