my dad's brother was a sergeant tail gunner in a Wellington Royal Canadian Air Force. my uncle and the entire crew died while on training session over Britain November 1943. rest in peace Uncle Alton
My Dad was a Sergeant in-flight mechanic/engineer and sometimes gunner in 458 Bomber Squadron in the middle east. We were lucky - he did come home to Australia. He never liked to talk about it as it affected him, but it did give him a lifetime love of small aircraft aviation in the Pacific islands, where he traveled a lot into remote areas. Fantastic to see this video.
My grandfather was a Wellington pilot with the 427th RCAF. I never got to meet him, sadly, but i've heard one or two stories from my dad. Proud to be descended from him.
Just recently found out that my father's younger brother served in the RCAF during WWII as a tail gunner in Wellingtons. He did two tours in Europe and was decorated at least twice.
Great video. A friend of mine is an ex Wellington pilot, Wing Commander Ken Wallis, who crashed a few of these in his time. He hit a barrage balloon once and the cable sawed most of the way through the wing, and fuel lines. Still got it down though. Amazingly strong.
Background information: Vickers Wellington Mk. ICs of RAF No. 99 Squadron vs. a rotte of Bf 109 F-4 Trop Is led by Oberleutnant Karl-Wolfgang Redlich with I./JG 27, then located at Gazala, North Africa, 1941.
My dad was the rear gunner on this aircraft but this is published on my husbands page but my dad was Flgt Sgt Frank Fearnside and God rest his soul and so so proud of you dad xx
The Brits tried something like this in autumn 1939; sent a bunch of Wimpies to look for targets near Heligoland in daylight, testing the idea that bombers with power-operated gun turrets flying in close formation could protect themselves against fighters. Epic Fail. They were attacked by 109's and 100's and almost all were shot down or heavily damaged. Check out "The Battle of the Heligoland Bight" for details. In defence of the theorists,when these tactics were developed most fighters were armed with only two rifle-calibre machineguns, and against that a bomber with two such weapons in a turret was at a much less disadvantage than against the cannon-armed fighters that were in service in WW2. One of my uncles flew Hampdens, Wellingtons, and Halifaxes during the War. He said they loved the Wellingtons for a lot of reasons; sadly, I can't remember most of them now. I think it was very popular with its crews.
my Grandfather & a few Uncles were in WW2, one of them was a nav. & gunner in B-25's and yeah, not much defense against fighter planes even with alot of guns/turrets, tough heroic times !
Because it took a lot more to shoot one down because of the structure of the body. Same reason why the B-17 is regarded more highly than the B-24, B-24 had greater numbers and greater bomb load, but the B-17's survivability was far greater than a B-24.
Back in the 1970s I read the operational diary for 9 Squadron. It describes the attacks on Kiel and Heligoland. In the first 2 daylight raids the Me 110s flew alongside the Wellingtons and shot many down: the aircraft had no side armament. 9 Squadron lost most of its peacetime aircrew in this manner.
One of the least known facts about the Wellington is that it could acommodate much larger bombs than the US B-17 Flying Fortress and the B-24 Liberator, like the 4000 lb "cookie" Type HC 4000 LB, first carried by the Welliongton mark B.II version
Thanks. I thought so. I built the Airfix 1/72nd kit back in 60's. In commenting on the game I found the graphics very nice, the action interesting, but the scenario a little odd. I thought British bombers only flew at night. I know this is a game and the scenes can be set up anyway you like, but I always thought that British bombers were poorly defended, especially mediums like the Wellington, for daylight action. Exceptions to this might be some of their heavies and of course the Mosquito
When the Brits claim they had no military answer to the invasion of Poland by Germany, they tend to convieniently forget that the Wellington bomber was already deployed to the RAF in 1939. The Wellington bomber was the aircraft used in 1940 to bomb Berlin* as payback for the inadvertent bombing of London by a damaged Luftwaffe bomber. No, in itself would not have stopped the combined Soviet-German invasion but as there were few divisions protecting the western front while Berlin was burning..
@TheNewCommissar Thank you SO MUCH for taking the time to reply to this as you answered my question perfectly. That is exactly the experience I am looking for. How is this game running post patch? None of the reviews have followed up since patching. How about the mod and online community? Are there lots of folks playing this? Thanks again.
@Arcon1337 Granted the approach angle is pretty steep on this video. Not all airplanes land like larger jets. These larger jets (ex. 737, a320, and some larger business jets) have leading edge flaps on the front of the wings. These kind of flaps enable jets to approach the runway with a higher angle of attack by changing the chord line of the wing. If you would like more information you should Wikipedia "aircraft flaps".
@Tubeuser1960 Thanks for the valuable piece of information directly from the source! Wow, a genuine Wellington pilot. Please send him my regards here from South Africa!
Amazing! Great video. Ok, I have no doubts, tomorrow I am going to buy this game... and a new computer... and a joystick... damn it! But it is worth it!!
@folkrace4life i agreee but thats the thing about aircraft that get obsolite early in wars they allways get forgoten and plays like the spitfire and hurrican are ingraved in memorie even tho the hurricane was used only mid to late in the war
i´ve acually think that the well. should be given a higher regret then they are been given. though obsolite pretiy early in the war they served very well in there role.
I worked in what was the factory were they built 4000 of them in Blackpool they were aluminium kytes wrapped in cloth I wonder if they ever fitted spitfire engines to them
@@javiergilvidal1558 thanks for the info I wish you could have seen inside the building everything designed by Barnes Wallace even the overhead cranes are still intact all the best
Il2 1496 with mods and all patches is rly amazeing. Its not that much advanced like cliffs of dover, cause cliffs of dover is rly a sim, there you can click almost every button in the cockpit, its 90% realistic compared to real life, damage model is wonderfull...its worth every cent! just like il2 strumovik 1946! But Il2 1946 is cheap, you have more planes to fly, patch it, get ultra mod (for example) and you will be happy with it. Both games are awesome, buy them both.
Yes until 1941, when Lancasters and Halifaxes started to come in full force. Overall, the Avro Lancaster was the most used and famous British bomber in WWII.
Yeah. Thought those Bf-109's where later models (F models). Watched it again and noticed they where E's. My bad. The British switch over to night bombing because the day time bombing (strategic bombing) was to dangerous and there where to many casualties. With night bombing they where less accurate, but they had more bombers made it back.
BisWT Got a WWI British hand-grade in me house, had it for years and was found in the Somme trenches, not on a dig but found by a friend just walking around, it was highly corroded but still live, thankfully it was made inert and is in me cabinet.
@loflyerz7 You failed bro. I guess you only read the part that said Vickers Wellington, eh? And forgot to read the rest (IL-2 Cliffs of Dover Aircraft 1)
@oron42 record movie at 1/4 speed and then do correction with editor = smooth image. GTX 480 Win 7 64bit Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9650 @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs) Memory: 3068MB RAM
cmon it's just a plane......good god it's a game. Seriously the graphics are ridiculous my computer would probably die trying to run it, it makes IL-2 1946 look like lego. And the sad thing is....Cliffs of dover, a PLANE simulator has better tank simulation than many TANK games.
my dad's brother was a sergeant tail gunner in a Wellington Royal Canadian Air Force. my uncle and the entire crew died while on training session over Britain November 1943. rest in peace Uncle Alton
My grandad was a tail gunner in a Wellington, loved the stories he use to tell me about them when I was a kid !
th-cam.com/video/XRfaEN-GQQw/w-d-xo.html have a watch of this, my Dad
Mine had flown the bomber
My Dad was a Sergeant in-flight mechanic/engineer and sometimes gunner in 458 Bomber Squadron in the middle east. We were lucky - he did come home to Australia. He never liked to talk about it as it affected him, but it did give him a lifetime love of small aircraft aviation in the Pacific islands, where he traveled a lot into remote areas. Fantastic to see this video.
My grandfather was a Wellington pilot with the 427th RCAF. I never got to meet him, sadly, but i've heard one or two stories from my dad. Proud to be descended from him.
Was he a London, ON boy ?
Just recently found out that my father's younger brother served in the RCAF during WWII as a tail gunner in Wellingtons. He did two tours in Europe and was decorated at least twice.
1943
Your maths need a brush-up Joel...I was also born in 1943. I'm now 73, soon to be 74. (Typing this in 2017.)
th-cam.com/video/XRfaEN-GQQw/w-d-xo.html
Great video. A friend of mine is an ex Wellington pilot, Wing Commander Ken Wallis, who crashed a few of these in his time. He hit a barrage balloon once and the cable sawed most of the way through the wing, and fuel lines. Still got it down though. Amazingly strong.
My Father was a rear gunner in Wellington Bombers during the war :)
Here’s my Dad th-cam.com/video/XRfaEN-GQQw/w-d-xo.html
Background information: Vickers Wellington Mk. ICs of RAF No. 99 Squadron vs. a rotte of Bf 109 F-4 Trop Is led by Oberleutnant Karl-Wolfgang Redlich with I./JG 27, then located at Gazala, North Africa, 1941.
Brilliant Vid, nice to see the Wimpy getting some limelight : )
My dad was the rear gunner on this aircraft but this is published on my husbands page but my dad was Flgt Sgt Frank Fearnside and God rest his soul and so so proud of you dad xx
Daylight missions without an escort would be suicidal. Most Wellington missions were flown at night.
My half Brother was first trained on the Wellington, and he DID fly at night.
Even for night operations, the Wellinton needed a dorsal turret.
Very nice. The 109s look superb.
Tinus...Your site is fantastic....totally enjoyed your videos....Special Operations Vet of Vetnam here.....
The Brits tried something like this in autumn 1939; sent a bunch of Wimpies to look for targets near Heligoland in daylight, testing the idea that bombers with power-operated gun turrets flying in close formation could protect themselves against fighters. Epic Fail.
They were attacked by 109's and 100's and almost all were shot down or heavily damaged. Check out "The Battle of the Heligoland Bight" for details.
In defence of the theorists,when these tactics were developed most fighters were armed with only two rifle-calibre machineguns, and against that a bomber with two such weapons in a turret was at a much less disadvantage than against the cannon-armed fighters that were in service in WW2. One of my uncles flew Hampdens, Wellingtons, and Halifaxes during the War. He said they loved the Wellingtons for a lot of reasons; sadly, I can't remember most of them now. I think it was very popular with its crews.
my Grandfather & a few Uncles were in WW2, one of them was a nav. & gunner in B-25's and yeah, not much defense against fighter planes even with alot of guns/turrets, tough heroic times !
Because it took a lot more to shoot one down because of the structure of the body. Same reason why the B-17 is regarded more highly than the B-24, B-24 had greater numbers and greater bomb load, but the B-17's survivability was far greater than a B-24.
Back in the 1970s I read the operational diary for 9 Squadron. It describes the attacks on Kiel and Heligoland. In the first 2 daylight raids the Me 110s flew alongside the Wellingtons and shot many down: the aircraft had no side armament. 9 Squadron lost most of its peacetime aircrew in this manner.
My name is WELLINGTON because it is a tribute to the WELLINGTON plane
My grandad probably ate a beef wellington at some point.
Mine definitely wore pair.
probably the first IL-2 COD movie!!! good job man!
Funfact: a spent 303 shell case snugly fits on the end of a pencil.
very realistic when he bounces on the suspension on take off... well done, the turns are a bit "unrealistic" but in all is an awesome job...
All of which was why the Wellington was a night bomber.
One of the least known facts about the Wellington is that it could acommodate much larger bombs than the US B-17 Flying Fortress and the B-24 Liberator, like the 4000 lb "cookie" Type HC 4000 LB, first carried by the Welliongton mark B.II version
Wimpy in daylight? Oh, blast! All of my mates have gone for a Burton.
My grandad was a tail gunner in a Wellington bomber never got a chance to meet him he died in 1941
In WWII footage the bombs impact the ground randomly. In the game they hit in a straight line. They should work on bomb physics.
stuart blastock your grandad is a hero.
Thanks. I thought so. I built the Airfix 1/72nd kit back in 60's.
In commenting on the game I found the graphics very nice, the action interesting, but the scenario a little odd. I thought British bombers only flew at night. I know this is a game and the scenes can be set up anyway you like, but I always thought that British bombers were poorly defended, especially mediums like the Wellington, for daylight action. Exceptions to this might be some of their heavies and of course the Mosquito
So of the shots look insanely real. Such as the gun cam on the Messerschmitt bf 109 at 1:32
compare that footage that you can get just from regular games now, like War Thunder
Awesome graphics ✈️👍
Awesome to know that the Wellie will be flyable soon :D
I love this video Tinus, it's just superb :)
my uncle was a rear gunner on these then on Bostons
Nice video. We can dream of obtain something like this with COD.Actually maybe a few people working for the NASA had a PC with this resources.
When the Brits claim they had no military answer to the invasion of Poland by Germany, they tend to convieniently forget that the Wellington bomber was already deployed to the RAF in 1939.
The Wellington bomber was the aircraft used in 1940 to bomb Berlin* as payback for the inadvertent bombing of London by a damaged Luftwaffe bomber.
No, in itself would not have stopped the combined Soviet-German invasion but as there were few divisions protecting the western front while Berlin was burning..
Just a little nitpick. Planes don't dive head first when landing. The nose would be angled up pretty high, even untill it touches down.
Amazing, some shots look like real footage
@TheNewCommissar Thank you SO MUCH for taking the time to reply to this as you answered my question perfectly. That is exactly the experience I am looking for. How is this game running post patch? None of the reviews have followed up since patching. How about the mod and online community? Are there lots of folks playing this?
Thanks again.
That is so cool. Thank you.
very nice vid mate, they really are sitting ducks when not escorted arent they!
My great grandfather was in the dambusters
@Arcon1337 Granted the approach angle is pretty steep on this video. Not all airplanes land like larger jets. These larger jets (ex. 737, a320, and some larger business jets) have leading edge flaps on the front of the wings. These kind of flaps enable jets to approach the runway with a higher angle of attack by changing the chord line of the wing. If you would like more information you should Wikipedia "aircraft flaps".
@Tubeuser1960 Thanks for the valuable piece of information directly from the source! Wow, a genuine Wellington pilot. Please send him my regards here from South Africa!
i know i am 8 years late but i am also South African
Thanks for this, here’s my Dad th-cam.com/video/XRfaEN-GQQw/w-d-xo.html
Didn't the British refer to the Wellington as the "Wimpy"?
Amazing!
Great video. Ok, I have no doubts, tomorrow I am going to buy this game... and a new computer... and a joystick... damn it! But it is worth it!!
5 STARS Excellent Post!!!!
@folkrace4life i agreee but thats the thing about aircraft that get obsolite early in wars they allways get forgoten and plays like the spitfire and hurrican are ingraved in memorie even tho the hurricane was used only mid to late in the war
@Arcon1337 That is how modern planes land. These types of planes cannot land like that because of the way the wheels are situated.
Nice bit of cgi thx loved it!!
Big target.
i´ve acually think that the well. should be given a higher regret then they are been given. though obsolite pretiy early in the war they served very well in there role.
the last of the hand crafted plane.
I sure hope they optimise CoD a hell of a lot more.
nicely done!
Designed to be tough and take a lot of punishment. Did as good a job as they could until the really big four engined bombers came along.
I worked in what was the factory were they built 4000 of them in Blackpool they were aluminium kytes wrapped in cloth I wonder if they ever fitted spitfire engines to them
Yes, the Mar II had Merlin Engines
@@javiergilvidal1558 thanks for the info I wish you could have seen inside the building everything designed by Barnes Wallace even the overhead cranes are still intact all the best
Il2 1496 with mods and all patches is rly amazeing. Its not that much advanced like cliffs of dover, cause cliffs of dover is rly a sim, there you can click almost every button in the cockpit, its 90% realistic compared to real life, damage model is wonderfull...its worth every cent! just like il2 strumovik 1946!
But Il2 1946 is cheap, you have more planes to fly, patch it, get ultra mod (for example) and you will be happy with it.
Both games are awesome, buy them both.
If this game had the scale of BoB2 Wings of Victory it would be awesome.
fine animation....
I really want to play this bomber in game
How do you make IL2 COD look this good! Color Correction?
Not really educated on the RAF but was this the most used bomber for the British during the Second World War?
Yes until 1941, when Lancasters and Halifaxes started to come in full force. Overall, the Avro Lancaster was the most used and famous British bomber in WWII.
@ThePilot4ever sure you can, and much more...
Epic mission!
nicely done))
This an action does in Dover... What did do... the Me- 109 with the afrika's logo in this scene?
One of our aircraft is missing - Blimey its B for Bertie!!
Ed McDowell h
very good
Gunners must have been drunk, they missed some easy targets
The first aircraft to shoot down a German Comet Rocket fighter.
Video is excellent. Too bad you can never play the game decently with these graphic settings.
@Arcon1337 That was the AI, that plane isnt flyable, at least yet.
Seem to me be rather easy to shoot down the plane as it had no coverage below or above.
i wished i could buy a new PC right now and this game...
The British did night bombing...
Not at the beginning of the war they didn't! many bombers flew daytime missions.
Yeah. Thought those Bf-109's where later models (F models). Watched it again and noticed they where E's. My bad. The British switch over to night bombing because the day time bombing (strategic bombing) was to dangerous and there where to many casualties. With night bombing they where less accurate, but they had more bombers made it back.
I've always loved the aviation of World War 2. And World War 2 history.
You are my twin but im faschinated with weapons and guns as well and a bit of WW1
BisWT Got a WWI British hand-grade in me house, had it for years and was found in the Somme trenches, not on a dig but found by a friend just walking around, it was highly corroded but still live, thankfully it was made inert and is in me cabinet.
Me-262 would have had them for lunch! Goring was such a fool!
Please make this flyable in the game
@biltongbru the exact same video was uploaded by another person way before oleg did
this is epiccc!!!!
Such a good game, but a shame they didnt finish the damn thing. Nevermind.. I am flying Wellingtons every night on War thunder.
oh there another IL-2 Sturmovik il 2 forgotten battles there three game so I need to know which better for fun game and making movie.
@biltongbru In that case, give it a few months and there will be mods that make it flyable ;)
amazing game!
I would hate to be a tail gunner on one of these things. You are just asking for trouble.
This games nice and smooth for me but when i shoot up an enemy plane and it breaks up the game lags like hell
They wouldn't have built 11 and a half thousand of them if they were crap
I hope someone makes the whitley
Can you fly this plane in the game? My grandpa flew one of them before he was shot down and killed.
@loflyerz7 Please read the headings before you watch. :)
@Scorpac impossible because I produced it
@loflyerz7 You failed bro. I guess you only read the part that said Vickers Wellington, eh? And forgot to read the rest (IL-2 Cliffs of Dover Aircraft 1)
@yippitydodah agreed.. but they couldnt smoke could they?
What is the name of nice soundtrack?
@oron42
record movie at 1/4 speed and then do correction with editor = smooth image.
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Letci z Wickers Welingtonech byli hrdinove... V letajicich rakvich nad Nemecko!
Can human players man the turrets on these bombers in multiplayer?
How good was this plane in combat?
Batalha muito legal! Rio de Janeiro RJ Brasil
I have question: which one for best game IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 and IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover??????????? for i will buy.
cmon it's just a plane......good god it's a game.
Seriously the graphics are ridiculous my computer would probably die trying to run it, it makes IL-2 1946 look like lego. And the sad thing is....Cliffs of dover, a PLANE simulator has better tank simulation than many TANK games.