Dialing in huge metal bass tones using amp sims (w/ Forrester Savell)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Learn how to get a massive metal bass tone in your mix using amp sims in this tutorial from Forrester Savell using the multi-tracks for "Simple Boy" by Karnivool.
This clip is from Forrester's Mixing Progressive Rock Bass Fast Track in URM Enhanced.
He uses Pro Tools, a bass DI, IK Multimedia Amplitube, Avid Eleven guitar amp sim, Waves GTR, Toneforge Menace, Auto Align, and Time Adjuster, but the same approach will work in any DAW with any amp sim (including any of the free ones).
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Who loves this bass tone??
Meee
sounds sick as fuck
This is exactly the song/tone i wanted to nail for a long time! Love the tone!
For those watching and who don't know Karnivool, this song is titled "Simple Boy," not "Deadman."
Whoops! Will correct, thanks!
i think the disconnect is that month the song mixed on URM was "Deadman"
After seeing Glenn Fricker’s video where he used a real guitar tube amp to record bass with its not surprising using amp sim plugins for a similar result. Stacking sims for overall tone is clearly not a complex concept, but is no less brilliant all the same.
Great video 👍
this whole idea somehow came from the circle of tone guy
Never thought about splitting the bass up in three and working on them in their respective ranges like that. Super cool thing to try! Nice video!
Killer vid. Wish he would have played the DIs dry so we could hear what we're starting with, though.
Lars Ulrich to producer: "make it so the bass is barely audible, okay now drop it another 8 decibels"
These guys: "3 bass tracks!!"
Uhh jesus
I actually worked with Steve Thompson who mixed ..and Justice for All. Of course, I had to ask him about that. Not sure if you were joking or not, but according to Steve that is exactly how it went down.
@@GeekOfAudio nice, yeah I saw it in a video
That fake laugh though...
Right? lmaooo
haha, what a story URM Academy!
Remind me of The Room xD haha
Brandon you’re killing me
Joey Sturgis lmao
2 amp bass recording setup I like:
- Radial Twin City amp splitter
AMP 1: (sort of but not really clean amp)
Sansamp BDDI > Darkglass Vintage Microtubes > Real Amp + mic of your choice (RE20 or 421 for me usually, or a 57) + whatever cab is there.
AMP 2: (Dirty/Distorted amp)
Marshal JCM800 and standard Marshall 412 + any distortion or OD pedal I might like in front of it. Just tried a Hoof fuzz and it was killer. Love Klon type OD's as well.
Just play around with this setup until it sounds good, record, then dial in to taste later.
You acrually don’t need Auto-align to do that sweep in sample to phase align. Pro Tools can do it for you without any use of a plugin. Just scroll down to the botton of your track where you can see your delay compensation information. Below the sample delay, there’s a +/- signal, you can just click int there and swipe until you find a value that suites your phase correlation.
Man, if only we had the multitracks. That would be extra cool. That or Goliath
You can get the tracks for “deadman” at nailthemix.com/karnivool
@@URMAcademy Any for goliath or simple boy?
Much needed guide thankyou sir
Wouldnt that also be issue that you dont high pass the distorted tracks high enough to give room for the clean amp?
thank u so much once again
Appreciate the support!
LEGEND !!! THATS ALL
Cool video!
0:19
kimseniorb all about that bass! hAhAh
is anybody else triggered like me from that macbook almost falling off his table? XD
We live life on the edge.
Literally came looking for a comment about that knew someone else would of noticed it 😂😂
I always thought it was funny how you would see these DAWs with a screen full of dozens of tracks running on them, with multiple channels for guitars, vocals and drums and in the middle of it all there's a single, lonely track labelled 'Bass'.
Anyone know the name of the song at the end?
Oh shit you JUST uploaded this hahahaha
I can not see the whole point, so to say, with this tutorial, when you dont let us hear the originally recorded bass sound ?
Great video. Now it would be interesting to see how you make room in the mix for guitars and vocals. The bass is really huge :)
I also wondered that you didn't eq out the lower mids and highs in the 2 obvious distorted tracks and used the non distorted DI track as a compressed bass - subbass track. Don't you have a massive low frequency buildup when you put 3 bass tracks together without cutting? Or did you process with eq before that video, because after all it sounded good. Cheers
I was thinking the very same thing...
@@Nilsje
No answers. Can't expect too much those days in TH-cam wonderland.
You're probably right. Seems like this section is "guitar-void" or rather, the guitar is in a fairly high register, so it doesn't clash with the low end of the bass, allowing the bass to breathe more. Once the low-tuned notes of the guitar kick in, I would assume some eq automation kicks in
What is the name of the mixer in the video? it is higher keyboard, digital mixer or controller *
Looks like an Avid Pro Tools S3 control surface
thx bro!
Mark-Alexander Geht 👍🏻
How does using the DI and software amps compare to using darkglass gear?
Vanja Kapetanovic lol you’re a pleb
I tour in a well known indie band and incorporate darkglass’s Alpha Omega Ultra as well as a number of other drives depending on my needs for the song. Maybe you just don’t know how to incorporate it correctly.
What’s that song at the start and end of the video??
want to know this too!
It's a custom song by Drewsif Stalin for URM! He also did the track for the 2018 Summit Promo
C1 Studios thanks!
C1 Studios has he released it anywhere?
the bas track look so "perfect"... How? Looks more like dist amp DI track.... hmmm Anyone??
joey sturgous' personality is like his production. not human, and just off.
what di was used for recording?
Warwick Custom 6 Corvette
Thats a bass model not di box model
should've stated DI box then. DI could mean the instrument. anyway, it was recorded in 2008 so nobody would answer what box was that, and frankly it doesn't matter one bit. Any modern DI or Hi-Z input would provide virtually the same result if the source is right.
The original one from Karnivool because the dude actually mixed the album.
What’s even more fascinating is how Austrians pronounce the “O” vowel. It has like 17 silent & secret letters than only Australians know. 😂 is it OIIIIEEE? OOOUUUIIIEEEEWWW? I’ll never know. Haha. Great video though.
that laptop is annoying me as it looks like it's gonna fall off the table!
Where?
This accent reminds me of Crocodile Dundee
good old aussie accent
Outdated af
And by "huge" you mean add distortion and make it sound like shit.