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Hi Ian, i'm a gunowner from Germany and i own a BD38 of the first generation. It's also marked MP38 but it's the "open bolt version" without the "extra" safty at the triggerguard! i have to say that i love her very much, but because of my bad eys i have add a red dot at the flipside position. i'm realy happy that Mr. Dittrich finaly made it that his produkt now is available too US gunowner!!! 👍👍👍
So you're just rolling the dice that you don't get caught? Or is there an exemption for historic pieces? Remember what they did to the 3D gun guy in Germany. "Accidental Heart attack", so if you're under the radar, I'd stay that way by not posting about it on one of the worlds most popular websites. Stay free, stay armed, stay alive.
@@mfallen6894 There's a decent amount of legal gun ownership and enthusiasm in Germany. It was obvious in this case that this dude is a legal gun owner, especially since Ian started the video talking about these guns being available in Germany.
Looks like the MP38 clone has really taken a very long time to bring it to fruition and Mr. Gun Jesus is totally right about the German WW2 blueprints being destroyed after the end of the war, and therefore taking longer than what the original German engineers are doing. For instance that the SMG semiauto FG42 took twice as long as the original FG42, and also that semiauto STG44s had to also be built from scratch. And finally once a reproduction semiauto is made, it commands a higher price tag but still lower than a transferable actual full auto, and repros are intended to offered for a limited run.
considering 21st century advancements in manufacturing.............just reverse engineer an original, you don't need no stinkn blueprints............the Chicoms reverse engineer everything............
Adding a semi automatic feature to any open bolt is very difficult to do as all of a sudden you need the firing pin to move, stove bolt simple if it is full auto always !
I lived 4 years in the hometown of SSD in Bavaria and a collegue had a lot of insight into the firm. He told me they put an huge amount of time (and money) into the stamping technology for their guns. Especially the FG-42. I don't own one yet but they are perfect replicas and I've been also told they are very sturdy and more resistant than the originals were when new.
Small and medium sized businesses are the backbone of the German economy. In particular, family businesses in rural areas are most particularly important. It is also important (before launching snide comments) to note that the huge majority of these businesses are funded from their own private means and not as in certain other nations funded from bank loans Foreigners please note that this helps give a crucial european partner enhanced economic stability. Some foreign places might learn from all this.
It would have been really funny if DK productions came up with their own three letter code for their own factory to mark their German pattern guns with instead of using pre-existing codes.
I had the exact same thought :) Seems more fair and logical somehow than faking an existing factory. Both the original german guns and the new american manufacturer could have their own code :)
Amazing. I knew someone who bought an original MP40 in the early 90s from a class 3 dealer for less than 3 grand. In the same period a local gun shop had an integrally suppressed MP5 in select fire for 4500 dollars. Both those guns would be north of 30 thousand today.
@@sqwk2559 Are you my subconscious's burner account?! I've been saying exactly what you said FOR YEARS NOW! No other President in American history took more Second Amendment RIGHTS away from us than that gun-grabbing POS traitor Ronald Reagan! The anti-gun legislation that he signed into law in 1986 IS THE ONLY PERMANENT GUN BAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY! The ban on the sale of ANY machine gun made after 1986, and also any machine gun made BEFORE 1986 but not registered with the ATF gestapo. Not only did he sign the only permanent gun ban in American history into law, but he played a HUGE role in getting the only other federal gun ban in American history passed as well! Reagan specifically called multiple Republican Senators and told them to SUPPORT the 1994 "Assault Weapons Ban". That ban DID NOT have enough Republican support to get past the filibuster in the Senate. Reagan personally called individual Senators and told them to support it...which they did. If I'm not mistaken, the 1994 AWB passed the Senate by just ONE vote. If not for the 10-year sunset period that 2A supporters managed to include in that bill, Reagan would have SINGLE-HANDEDLY been responsible for BOTH of the only permanent federal gun bans in American history! So Reagan, who prior to Trump (yet ANOTHER "Republican" gun-grabber of a President!) was held up by pro-gun Republicans as the "Golden God" of American Presidents, is BY FAR the biggest gun-grabber of a President that this country HAS EVER SEEN! And make absolutely no mistake about it, the ban on machine guns that he signed into law in 1986 is something that will literally never be overturned in this country! Not by ANY President...Democrat OR Republican...or by ANY SCOTUS...not even the one we have right now. You could put two more far-right Justices on SCOTUS tomorrow and I will still guarantee you that they will NEVER give us gun owners back the RIGHT to buy and own machine guns. That right is gone FOREVER! Thanks SOLELY to Ronald Reagan!
As a former battle reenactor in the UK I once hired an original MP38 from the arms supplier for a battle at Fort Amherst in Kent, I absolutely loved it despite the lack of safety, aesthetically I thought it looked even cooler than the already incredibly cool MP40 and it ran flawlessly.
My buddy got one of the Stg 44's made by this company and man is it a work of art, even though it's the .22lr version. He won it in a raffle... Lucky s.o.b.... When I first got to play with it I spent 3hr carefully taking it apart and admiring the work. Would have been even cooler had he gotten it in the original caliber, but knowing him he wouldn't have ever found any ammo for it. I'm not even sure if it's still legal as I'm pretty sure the barrel isn't 16in, though I didn't get out a rod a measure it properly so it may just be a trick of the eye making it look like it only has a 12 or 14in barrel. Told him he might want to check and he's like "nah, they'll never catch me". The stupid thing is he's probably right as I've never met anyone with better luck. When we're all out shooting one day someone else will be holding it when a game warden rolls-up and they'll go to jail instead, lol
Holy moly 38s are such a stark contrast to late war SMGs. You can clubber someone to death with it, while later SMGs seem to be stampings, hopes and prayers.
When you started this episode I flashed back to the mid 70s. I was a police officer in Norman Oklahoma and we had just arrested two hit men. In their car trunk was a P38 sub machine gun and I remembered how heavy it was! Unfortunately, rather than keeping it as an armory sample, the department allowed the ATF to take it and I heard it was distroyed.
It seems to me that this guy is more of an "artist" and not only a gunsmith. I kinda get the feel of an artist recreating famous works rather than a guy trying to make a copy just to make money. You get the original feel plus the changes necessary for legal compliance but with the touch of a great engineer rather than kludging something together that will work. It just all seems to fit and IMO justifies the "stupidly expensive" price tag. I would love to see more of his work.
I have one of these clones, too, and I was blown away by the level of detail that was put into the gun. Serial numbers and Waffenampts are on every part that would have been serialized and inspected on an original. You also could buy a late model bolt and muzzle nut to turn it into an MP-38/40, if you want. The folks at D-K production are awesome to work with and are very friendly and responsive. It is an expensive gun, but it is easy to understand why it is so expensive when you get it because of the level of detail, the high-quality machining, and the low production numbers.
Pricy, but having something that you can run without worrying about be breaking irreplaceable bits or having to go through BATF to own one certainly makes it a worthwhile option for someone who wants a shootable historic(ish) gun. This is super cool!
I remember seeing the BD38 on their website around 10 years ago (maybe more). Good to see this is coming to fruition, maybe one day the price will come down a bit too.
I traded a friend out of his DB-38 for a Rugar No.1 in .416 Rigby, I had three anyway. He didn't like it after he bought it and complained of smokestacks. I've had no such issues or issues of any kind with it. It is a lot of fun to shoot, runs any ammo I've tried in it and is very smooth. The only thing I can figure out is it was very dry when I got it from him. I cleaned it all up and lightly oiled and greased the internals and Viola instant running perfection.
Very nice. Here is an idea for at least a few episodes. Every forgotten weapon has had a cleaning kit made specifically for it. There are a lot of tips and tricks that not everyone knows. It would be great to see some examples and how they were used. Just a thought. Thanks.
I wonder how much longer it’s going to take to bring the rest of the SSD catalog into the United States. I do look forward to seeing their FG 42 offering since it is going to be a bit closer to the original and use reproduction magazines that are compatible with the originals. Might be the better option long-term since Zb 30 magazines are drying up for the SMG version.
@@sabiti5428That's why I said "larger" rather than "large". Ian said they were just starting up, so it's a safe to assume they want to produce more than they are now. They'll probably want to get the price down somewhat to reach a larger set of buyers. These will always be several thousand dollars but there's room for optimization once the US business is better established.
@@myparceltape1169 This semi auto reproduction of a 1930s design is definitely not intended for military use. Having a major arms manufacturer design and produce a gun is not the same as having a relatively small company copying that same gun 85 years later.
When I was around 8 years old my dad had a MP-38 for around 2 days a friend talk too much so it was passed on to someone else outside of that friend's circle of friends. We also stored a US M-2 Aircraft cannon for several months for a machinist who later used the barrel to make a 20mm single shot rifle with a properly dimensioned chamber.
Same machinist also had a 37 mm Hotchkiss Revolving Cannon which used machined brass dummy cartridges with a 45 ACP barrel locked in it. I got to shoot three rounds in it
Excellent video and excellent weapon. Just to comment that I'm not an English speaker and at 1:01 when I heard "brick and mortar" I thought of an indirect fire weapon that would shoot bricks lol. That would be a true Forgotten Weapon. Greetings from Argentine Patagonia.
This costs $4,050 to buy from D-K Production, I kid you not, plastic grip plates are $73 each! A magazine button is $43, for those with VERY deep pockets.
they are incredibly expensive to make in small numbers.. a machinist makes 20+ an hour. overhead on metal working isnt cheap.. the reason many guns are cheap is the size and finances of the manufacturer..
Yeah, people always say "I would totally buy this if they remade it today!" But when they see the price tag they complain lol. Small production, full metal, quality guns cost lots to make.
I just watched your video from four years ago (as of 2023) of you shooting this gun, and I wondered why you haven't made a previous video talking about it. Now it's here!
Yeah, the previous video was filmed in Europe and I only had a few minutes with the gun. Now that we have them available in the US I can do a lot more with it.
12 years ago I got to play with their open bolt version on the canadian market, before the Govt decided it was too easy to convert full auto and ban it. Nice piece of machinery. They ended up buying back the 78 guns that were sold, at about 3400$ each. They also took away the 3008 copy that was made. At the time there was a semi auto closed bolt version that they had made for the US market, The thing was no fun to take apart, and was apparently full of problems. Glad they sorted it out and got it out.
I got a GSG. It was really bad at first. But after a good cleaning, it has a lot of grease in it from the factory. Also after 1000 round break in it runs great now.
I looked at a repro mp40 by gsg a few months ago for around 400 at my local gun store. they make pretty decent repro that most people can afford its really the best option for anyone just wanting an mp40 as a range toy or a collectible.
@@jmjedi923they also make a 9mm version but I haven’t heard anything about it I own one of their stg 44 replicas and love it. Although a 10lb .22 is a bit much lol. A world of difference in weight when compared to my 5.56 AK 101
Nice MP38 runs great. I once did WW2 Reenactments and had the Semi Auto Thompson, considering the have been in production almost 50yrs....they are not Reliable and lots of stopping. This MP38 Semi looks fabulous with the Fluted Reciever
I saw that they're making an MP-35 now, hopefully they'll make an MP-28 in the future as well (one of my reenacting impressions is Belgian 1940 and Belgian NCOs carried MP-28s and the Vigneron clones when they were fighting the Germans)
The BD 1-5 has me very intrigued. I had no idea that anyone made a replica of the Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr. And now I want one. I hope they start importing these to the USA eventually. Judging by the specs, with a 10-round mag, it may even be New York legal. (Yeah, I’m stuck in NY. Pity me.)
Don't the originals technically have a barrel length that would make them SBRs (but exempt from the NFA due to their historical value)? I doubt the ATF would give an exemption for a replica with a historically correct barrel length today.
@@sorokajay5660 Don’t know about the original, but the barrel length of the BD 1-5 is 421 mm (16.58 inches). Google “Sport-Systeme Dittrich” to find the SSD website. All their products are listed there.
Funny enough, I have a GSG MP40 in 9mm that I SBRed, and after modifying the magazines to actually hold 32 rounds, it works perfectly. I havent shot it a ton, but it hasn't had a hiccup yet.
My dad and I walked over to a new gun shop in town while getting groceries our birthday weekend. It was a small shop, but they had one of these on the wall. I bought it for $500! These things are way cool and a nice weapon to brag that's in your collection.
A reproduction G34 with detachable box magazines rechambered in .308 would likely sell well in the American market. We do love our semiautomatic battle rifles.
When ever you have the time you need to make a full length video on the savage 99 Yes I know you’ve done a book review on the gun but a full length video is in order
@@nc_classics9767 I currently have one on layaway It’s the EG model Manufactured in 1952 Chambered in 300 savage And outfitted with a Lyman 2A sa peep sight
Love your channel. Could you do a video on the Para Ordnance P14 1911. It's an interesting gun and company that doesn't exist anymore. From Canada they were the very first company to make a high capacity 1911. They had some problems in the beginning such as frames cracking, and magazine issues but they solved these and at the end they made some of the nicest 1911s around. You could even have them customized with your military unit insignia or service information. One just sold on Gunbroker with a Green Berets emblem on it.The were eventually destroyed by Remington when they were bought by them then broken up. I think it'd make an interesting video as they were the first to actually make a high capacity 1911, and a 1911 with a double action trigger, very innovative, a now gone manufacturer.
Sounds soild and the trigger job would be a great piece to own. They were all that way. I hope you have a great evening and thanks for sharing this with me and my family/friends. God bless you all and enjoy your upcoming week, can't wait to see what they do next.
I had one of these for a very short period of time before returning it for refund. Though beautifully made and finished, it had significant problems. The trigger was so stiff that my wife could not pull it with one finger. It was very difficult to field strip and reassemble. The bolt did not glide smoothly. I believe too many compromises had been made to the original German design to placate the ATF. The result is not a smoothly functioning firearm.
Using one for a few years I always thought they should have had an extended magazine well with a full hand grip area.. this also aids in holding off hand if you need your trigger hand for something else Whilst being able to get the weapon back into action much quicker..
Idk about anyone else, but Forgotten Weapons just does not show up in my feed anymore. No matter how many videos I search out and watch, TH-cam just refuses to put any in my feed. I didn't realize it was happening for a couple months until I thought "I haven't seen any of Ian's videos for a long time, I wonder what's going on" and went directly to the channel. I've since watched nearly every video I missed, and still, nothing is showing up in my feed.
The museum for the Hastings and Prince Edward Regiment in belleville ontario will have some amazing selections of weapons from about 1857 till current Era
Hello Ian This is the first new firearm in a long time that I really want. The quality of the build is outstanding. I agree with you about SBRing this weapon. It is a hefty price to pay to pay but for some one who has idolize these guns since childhood watching "The Gallent Men" and "Combat" it's a price I am willing to pay. Thanks for the video Ian.
Ive been wanting for ages to see somone go out of their way to recreate the historic arms. Not just for parts for the originals, but to allow historic designs not fade from the world.
Is it my imagination, or does Ian, almost regardless of weapon, do better on the spinner at the cooler end of the year? The extra weight of the MP38 will actually work against it in semi-auto as regards accuracy with nearly all that weight in front of the trigger, but that's where you want the weight in full auto. Which really would be authentic.
The go through on the closed bolt safety and dirt ingrese.. Its really clear how the Swedish M/45 copied Schmeissers homework and changed it enough to make it our own..
I know it'll never happen but I'd love to see someone recreate the Gabbett Fairfax aka The Webley Mars. Really was the world's most powerful handgun for a while.
@@jaredthehawk3870 I'd be happy with the original .45 Mars loading. 1200 ft/lbs was pretty spectacular for a pistol round invented around about 1899. You're right though, it would be an epic thing in 50AE. . . Edit, should have said fps not ft/lbs. Oops
I have one of the GSG MP 40s the only complaint i have found was a ridiculously long trigger pull and reset after modification of trigger rod fixed that issue i have had no other real issues yet its ok for a inexpensive clone i would expect if you pay 4,000 for one it would be much better made than the GSG copy
I redesigned and 3D printed an improved trigger bar, which made a huge difference in the trigger pull. My gun has proved to be quite reliable and surprisingly accurate.
An original G43 is like $3000 and not accessible to the common man. Loved your video on why repro's are hard to do though and it helped me explain better to others why companies can't just make a cheap MP44 clone or somethin like that. It would be nice to get a huge influx from someone with a price lower then $2000 but that's just a dream. PSA was supposed to make some but seems the ball dropped on that too.
Dittrich is an awesome company and their guns are real gems, however I think that asking € 14,950 for a Type 1 FG42 is a bit out of the line, given that Rick Smith have them for less than $ 6,000. I get the quality is astounding, but for that price in the US you could almost buy a registered trasnferable machine gun (not an FG 42 of course, I know they go for $ 200,000+ as of now) but in m opinionin it's not a realistic price... Type 2 is also over € 8,000+
I am so happy that there are people out there taking the time to make things like this. Gives me hope that one day I'll be able to get reproductions of my favorite firearms that I'd otherwise have 0 chance of ever seeing. In other words, somebody please make me an SA80.
Ian did a review on the Belgian made 1915/27 Chauchut a few years ago. It's a good example of how a well-made Chauchut can look like. No firing videos, unfortunately.
I'd think this thing would work better for intruder defense than a handgun. In practice it is a short barreled carbine that holds 30 rounds and at modest ranges against the criminal sort who rarely wear body armor...
I'm a retired Maryland deputy and we recovered a MP 38 in a eviction with SS MARKS. I hope they either donate it to a museum and not destroy it. It's been in the armory since 1980. I recovered a USMC 1918 45 CAL Revolver. A Squad member got a WW 2 1911A1 45 .
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I hope he does the STG45, I am obsessed with Roller Delayed Blowback weapons.
This is much better than the raffles, imo, but I know it probably doesn't bring in as much money.
Ian is a veteran war hero
So pistol brace is that allowed now or no
“Not just another drop shipper”,no one would ever say this about anything other than a drop shipper.More subtlety required
Hi Ian,
i'm a gunowner from Germany and i own a BD38 of the first generation. It's also marked MP38 but it's the "open bolt version" without the "extra" safty at the triggerguard! i have to say that i love her very much, but because of my bad eys i have add a red dot at the flipside position. i'm realy happy that Mr. Dittrich finaly made it that his produkt now is available too US gunowner!!! 👍👍👍
In some you are fortunate sir. In other ways perhaps not.
So you're just rolling the dice that you don't get caught? Or is there an exemption for historic pieces?
Remember what they did to the 3D gun guy in Germany. "Accidental Heart attack", so if you're under the radar, I'd stay that way by not posting about it on one of the worlds most popular websites. Stay free, stay armed, stay alive.
@@mfallen6894 no, the gun is "safe" to german gun laws... and i own it now for over 10 years...
@@ejharbet6390 yea, german gun laws are quite "complicated"!
@@mfallen6894 There's a decent amount of legal gun ownership and enthusiasm in Germany. It was obvious in this case that this dude is a legal gun owner, especially since Ian started the video talking about these guns being available in Germany.
Looks like the MP38 clone has really taken a very long time to bring it to fruition and Mr. Gun Jesus is totally right about the German WW2 blueprints being destroyed after the end of the war, and therefore taking longer than what the original German engineers are doing. For instance that the SMG semiauto FG42 took twice as long as the original FG42, and also that semiauto STG44s had to also be built from scratch. And finally once a reproduction semiauto is made, it commands a higher price tag but still lower than a transferable actual full auto, and repros are intended to offered for a limited run.
considering 21st century advancements in manufacturing.............just reverse engineer an original, you don't need no stinkn blueprints............the Chicoms reverse engineer everything............
SSD has offered all of them for many years now though....
@@Hurricane2k8still waiting for him to make new G43's, but yes he basically has them all.
Adding a semi automatic feature to any open bolt is very difficult to do as all of a sudden you need the firing pin to move, stove bolt simple if it is full auto always !
Designs tend to get rushed along when the alternative is ...death.
I lived 4 years in the hometown of SSD in Bavaria and a collegue had a lot of insight into the firm. He told me they put an huge amount of time (and money) into the stamping technology for their guns. Especially the FG-42. I don't own one yet but they are perfect replicas and I've been also told they are very sturdy and more resistant than the originals were when new.
Didn't SSD stop production of the BD-42?
Didn't know SSD moved to Kulmbach... Last time I've heard of them they were in that shitty village that was nothing but a doorstop.
@@Eluderatnight They are also not in the middle of a war on two fronts.
As far as I know they've been in Kulmbach for some years (which is the city I mentioned) and they still produce the BD-42.
Small and medium sized businesses are the backbone of the German economy. In particular, family businesses in rural areas are most particularly important. It is also important (before launching snide comments) to note that the huge majority of these businesses are funded from their own private means and not as in certain other nations funded from bank loans
Foreigners please note that this helps give a crucial european partner enhanced economic stability.
Some foreign places might learn from all this.
It would have been really funny if DK productions came up with their own three letter code for their own factory to mark their German pattern guns with instead of using pre-existing codes.
I had the exact same thought :)
Seems more fair and logical somehow than faking an existing factory.
Both the original german guns and the new american manufacturer could have their own code :)
Amazing. I knew someone who bought an original MP40 in the early 90s from a class 3 dealer for less than 3 grand. In the same period a local gun shop had an integrally suppressed MP5 in select fire for 4500 dollars. Both those guns would be north of 30 thousand today.
An MP5SD is over fifty grand today.
@@sqwk2559 Are you my subconscious's burner account?! I've been saying exactly what you said FOR YEARS NOW! No other President in American history took more Second Amendment RIGHTS away from us than that gun-grabbing POS traitor Ronald Reagan! The anti-gun legislation that he signed into law in 1986 IS THE ONLY PERMANENT GUN BAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY! The ban on the sale of ANY machine gun made after 1986, and also any machine gun made BEFORE 1986 but not registered with the ATF gestapo.
Not only did he sign the only permanent gun ban in American history into law, but he played a HUGE role in getting the only other federal gun ban in American history passed as well! Reagan specifically called multiple Republican Senators and told them to SUPPORT the 1994 "Assault Weapons Ban".
That ban DID NOT have enough Republican support to get past the filibuster in the Senate. Reagan personally called individual Senators and told them to support it...which they did. If I'm not mistaken, the 1994 AWB passed the Senate by just ONE vote. If not for the 10-year sunset period that 2A supporters managed to include in that bill, Reagan would have SINGLE-HANDEDLY been responsible for BOTH of the only permanent federal gun bans in American history!
So Reagan, who prior to Trump (yet ANOTHER "Republican" gun-grabber of a President!) was held up by pro-gun Republicans as the "Golden God" of American Presidents, is BY FAR the biggest gun-grabber of a President that this country HAS EVER SEEN! And make absolutely no mistake about it, the ban on machine guns that he signed into law in 1986 is something that will literally never be overturned in this country! Not by ANY President...Democrat OR Republican...or by ANY SCOTUS...not even the one we have right now. You could put two more far-right Justices on SCOTUS tomorrow and I will still guarantee you that they will NEVER give us gun owners back the RIGHT to buy and own machine guns. That right is gone FOREVER! Thanks SOLELY to Ronald Reagan!
As a former battle reenactor in the UK I once hired an original MP38 from the arms supplier for a battle at Fort Amherst in Kent, I absolutely loved it despite the lack of safety, aesthetically I thought it looked even cooler than the already incredibly cool MP40 and it ran flawlessly.
The fluting on the reciever is what I like the most
@@Gameprojordan Yessss! I'd love to have one of these with the wooden stock.
i was so early that gavrilo princip is still eating his sandwich
What are you talking about, it's nearly 2 o'clock in the afternoon here in the UK!
I'm so early, Newton has no fear of falling fruit.
I was so early that Molotov was still taking vonnRinnentrops phone calls…
I was so early that I stole Lee Harvey Oswald's Carcano before he could even pick it up.
Still waiting for the cyanide to kick in
Glad to see SSD gets to the US. There stuff looks great and even produce stuff like the BD35 (MP35 Bermann), BD1-5 (VG1-5) and even BD43/1 (MP43/1).
I think that the Bergmann is perfect for my smg needs. But I want a full copy that giggles.
My buddy got one of the Stg 44's made by this company and man is it a work of art, even though it's the .22lr version. He won it in a raffle... Lucky s.o.b.... When I first got to play with it I spent 3hr carefully taking it apart and admiring the work. Would have been even cooler had he gotten it in the original caliber, but knowing him he wouldn't have ever found any ammo for it.
I'm not even sure if it's still legal as I'm pretty sure the barrel isn't 16in, though I didn't get out a rod a measure it properly so it may just be a trick of the eye making it look like it only has a 12 or 14in barrel. Told him he might want to check and he's like "nah, they'll never catch me". The stupid thing is he's probably right as I've never met anyone with better luck. When we're all out shooting one day someone else will be holding it when a game warden rolls-up and they'll go to jail instead, lol
@@mfallen6894 SSD has never made a 22 MP44
Holy moly 38s are such a stark contrast to late war SMGs. You can clubber someone to death with it, while later SMGs seem to be stampings, hopes and prayers.
Got to the stock wobble test and I'm pretty sure this is made with far more care and accuracy than even the pre-war production ones.
When you started this episode I flashed back to the mid 70s. I was a police officer in Norman Oklahoma and we had just arrested two hit men. In their car trunk was a P38 sub machine gun and I remembered how heavy it was! Unfortunately, rather than keeping it as an armory sample, the department allowed the ATF to take it and I heard it was distroyed.
Non gun question
Have you had to stop traffic because of a tornado?
Ah yes, another piece of history being destroyed...
How could you hand it over to the Nazi SS like that?
@@bobjohnson1633 NKVD. The SS would have saved an MP38.
I guarantee that one was never destroyed.
It seems to me that this guy is more of an "artist" and not only a gunsmith. I kinda get the feel of an artist recreating famous works rather than a guy trying to make a copy just to make money. You get the original feel plus the changes necessary for legal compliance but with the touch of a great engineer rather than kludging something together that will work. It just all seems to fit and IMO justifies the "stupidly expensive" price tag. I would love to see more of his work.
This has been around for a few months. I know several people who have ordered and placed deposits. Glad Ian is on this.
I have one of these clones, too, and I was blown away by the level of detail that was put into the gun. Serial numbers and Waffenampts are on every part that would have been serialized and inspected on an original. You also could buy a late model bolt and muzzle nut to turn it into an MP-38/40, if you want. The folks at D-K production are awesome to work with and are very friendly and responsive. It is an expensive gun, but it is easy to understand why it is so expensive when you get it because of the level of detail, the high-quality machining, and the low production numbers.
Pricy, but having something that you can run without worrying about be breaking irreplaceable bits or having to go through BATF to own one certainly makes it a worthwhile option for someone who wants a shootable historic(ish) gun. This is super cool!
I remember seeing the BD38 on their website around 10 years ago (maybe more). Good to see this is coming to fruition, maybe one day the price will come down a bit too.
I traded a friend out of his DB-38 for a Rugar No.1 in .416 Rigby, I had three anyway. He didn't like it after he bought it and complained of smokestacks. I've had no such issues or issues of any kind with it. It is a lot of fun to shoot, runs any ammo I've tried in it and is very smooth. The only thing I can figure out is it was very dry when I got it from him. I cleaned it all up and lightly oiled and greased the internals and Viola instant running perfection.
Very nice. Here is an idea for at least a few episodes. Every forgotten weapon has had a cleaning kit made specifically for it. There are a lot of tips and tricks that not everyone knows. It would be great to see some examples and how they were used. Just a thought. Thanks.
Nice idea. If you don't already know C&Rsenal then you will like it.
I wonder how much longer it’s going to take to bring the rest of the SSD catalog into the United States. I do look forward to seeing their FG 42 offering since it is going to be a bit closer to the original and use reproduction magazines that are compatible with the originals. Might be the better option long-term since Zb 30 magazines are drying up for the SMG version.
@@Paladin1873 6k?
@@mfallen6894 More. I've seen at least one listed for 12+k€.
But I think they don't even make BD-42 anymore, so it's kind of a moot question...
@@Paladin1873 Oh wow... They're really cool, but man, all the stuff one could buy for 10k+! Hard pass for me (not that I can afford it anyway, lol)
This is a cool gun. It is a bit more expensive than I can afford, but this was a cool thing that has hit the market.
We need more guys like Dietrich.
Hopefully they're able to keep up their good QC when they start producing these at a larger scale. It's always nice to have new options on the market.
These won't ever see large scale production.
@@sabiti5428That's why I said "larger" rather than "large". Ian said they were just starting up, so it's a safe to assume they want to produce more than they are now. They'll probably want to get the price down somewhat to reach a larger set of buyers. These will always be several thousand dollars but there's room for optimization once the US business is better established.
@@In-Midnight-Clad For a weapon intended for military use that sounds like a stupidly high price.
@@myparceltape1169 This semi auto reproduction of a 1930s design is definitely not intended for military use. Having a major arms manufacturer design and produce a gun is not the same as having a relatively small company copying that same gun 85 years later.
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Yes but I wonder how the manufacturer in 1938 got it usefully low.
11:57 As if a German would ever even consider skimping out on details.
When I was around 8 years old my dad had a MP-38 for around 2 days a friend talk too much so it was passed on to someone else outside of that friend's circle of friends. We also stored a US M-2 Aircraft cannon for several months for a machinist who later used the barrel to make a 20mm single shot rifle with a properly dimensioned chamber.
Same machinist also had a 37 mm Hotchkiss Revolving Cannon which used machined brass dummy cartridges with a 45 ACP barrel locked in it. I got to shoot three rounds in it
Excellent video and excellent weapon. Just to comment that I'm not an English speaker and at 1:01 when I heard "brick and mortar" I thought of an indirect fire weapon that would shoot bricks lol. That would be a true Forgotten Weapon. Greetings from Argentine Patagonia.
That's hilarious
Ah yes famous Elbonian artillery.
i expect Ian to do this for next year's April Fools Day
Ah the traditional weapon, the Brickin' Mortar
By the way, in Spanish, "mortero" (mortar) also has the two meanings: Weapon and substance that joins bricks.
This costs $4,050 to buy from D-K Production, I kid you not, plastic grip plates are $73 each! A magazine button is $43, for those with VERY deep pockets.
If you can't afford one of these, you'll have zero chance of affording the black leather trench coat and monocle.
they are incredibly expensive to make in small numbers..
a machinist makes 20+ an hour. overhead on metal working isnt cheap..
the reason many guns are cheap is the size and finances of the manufacturer..
Worth every penny so you can convince people to show you their papers
Suppy small and demand as well. I understand why they're costly. If they were full auto alot more would want them even at 5thou
Yeah, people always say "I would totally buy this if they remade it today!" But when they see the price tag they complain lol. Small production, full metal, quality guns cost lots to make.
I just watched your video from four years ago (as of 2023) of you shooting this gun, and I wondered why you haven't made a previous video talking about it. Now it's here!
Yeah, the previous video was filmed in Europe and I only had a few minutes with the gun. Now that we have them available in the US I can do a lot more with it.
12 years ago I got to play with their open bolt version on the canadian market, before the Govt decided it was too easy to convert full auto and ban it. Nice piece of machinery. They ended up buying back the 78 guns that were sold, at about 3400$ each. They also took away the 3008 copy that was made. At the time there was a semi auto closed bolt version that they had made for the US market, The thing was no fun to take apart, and was apparently full of problems. Glad they sorted it out and got it out.
I have a GSG MP-40 and I haven't had any issues with it. Like you I Form 1'ed it to add the stock.
I got a GSG. It was really bad at first. But after a good cleaning, it has a lot of grease in it from the factory. Also after 1000 round break in it runs great now.
I looked at a repro mp40 by gsg a few months ago for around 400 at my local gun store. they make pretty decent repro that most people can afford its really the best option for anyone just wanting an mp40 as a range toy or a collectible.
The one in the video is $4000
@@AvocadoAtrocityoof, I was considering getting one until hearing that. GSG one sounds nice though.
Gsg is in 22 though. Not a bad thing for me since it's a range toy
@@jmjedi923they also make a 9mm version but I haven’t heard anything about it I own one of their stg 44 replicas and love it. Although a 10lb .22 is a bit much lol. A world of difference in weight when compared to my 5.56 AK 101
@@jmjedi923 ah man, I thought it was 9mm. Still, .22 is fun.
Thank you for taking the time to show us this, Ian!
This is brutally awesome, but the price tag... man.
Nice MP38 runs great.
I once did WW2 Reenactments and had the Semi Auto Thompson, considering the have been in production almost 50yrs....they are not Reliable and lots of stopping.
This MP38 Semi looks fabulous with the Fluted Reciever
I hope Ian can get his hands on SSGs SG-11, the modernized FG42
With all those cacti in the background I kept expecting Wile Coyote to pop up at any minute ...
I saw that they're making an MP-35 now, hopefully they'll make an MP-28 in the future as well (one of my reenacting impressions is Belgian 1940 and Belgian NCOs carried MP-28s and the Vigneron clones when they were fighting the Germans)
I love how your gun channel just talks about the items and the companies and people that make the items. Very cool.
I love these retro builds
I’ve been following SSD’s work for a while now… THANK GOD they are FINALLY going to start importing 🤞 I want the VG1-5 they make so damn bad
I wonder if the stock will fit an original MP 40. Mine, like most all, is a bit wobbly. Or possibly the small stock parts to replace the worn ones.
It will. The stocks are MP38 and MP40 spec.
Just want to say, I love you show. Very informative, interesting, & love your humor. Thank-you.
The BD 1-5 has me very intrigued. I had no idea that anyone made a replica of the Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr. And now I want one. I hope they start importing these to the USA eventually. Judging by the specs, with a 10-round mag, it may even be New York legal. (Yeah, I’m stuck in NY. Pity me.)
Don't the originals technically have a barrel length that would make them SBRs (but exempt from the NFA due to their historical value)? I doubt the ATF would give an exemption for a replica with a historically correct barrel length today.
@@sorokajay5660 Don’t know about the original, but the barrel length of the BD 1-5 is 421 mm (16.58 inches). Google “Sport-Systeme Dittrich” to find the SSD website. All their products are listed there.
Funny enough, I have a GSG MP40 in 9mm that I SBRed, and after modifying the magazines to actually hold 32 rounds, it works perfectly. I havent shot it a ton, but it hasn't had a hiccup yet.
A milled beauty, everything milled is so smooth like the Type 2 or Type 3 AKs. Just loving them as a mill operator!
"Gave it the proper stock and then took the stock off"
Now if only the people making VZ61 receivers would do the same thing..
stopping by again to say that a C96 repro would be really cool to see and i hope it happens
My dad and I walked over to a new gun shop in town while getting groceries our birthday weekend. It was a small shop, but they had one of these on the wall. I bought it for $500! These things are way cool and a nice weapon to brag that's in your collection.
A reproduction G34 with detachable box magazines rechambered in .308 would likely sell well in the American market. We do love our semiautomatic battle rifles.
I hope this all works out for them, one of the VG 1-5 clones would be cool.
When ever you have the time you need to make a full length video on the savage 99
Yes I know you’ve done a book review on the gun but a full length video is in order
I used to have one in 250-3000 with the magazine counter. Neat rifles
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I currently have one on layaway
It’s the EG model
Manufactured in 1952
Chambered in 300 savage
And outfitted with a Lyman 2A sa peep sight
Love your channel. Could you do a video on the Para Ordnance P14 1911. It's an interesting gun and company that doesn't exist anymore. From Canada they were the very first company to make a high capacity 1911. They had some problems in the beginning such as frames cracking, and magazine issues but they solved these and at the end they made some of the nicest 1911s around. You could even have them customized with your military unit insignia or service information. One just sold on Gunbroker with a Green Berets emblem on it.The were eventually destroyed by Remington when they were bought by them then broken up. I think it'd make an interesting video as they were the first to actually make a high capacity 1911, and a 1911 with a double action trigger, very innovative, a now gone manufacturer.
Happy to say DK isn’t that far from me. And they do show a 43 on their website, so there’s hope.
Sounds soild and the trigger job would be a great piece to own. They were all that way. I hope you have a great evening and thanks for sharing this with me and my family/friends. God bless you all and enjoy your upcoming week, can't wait to see what they do next.
I had one of these for a very short period of time before returning it for refund. Though beautifully made and finished, it had significant problems. The trigger was so stiff that my wife could not pull it with one finger. It was very difficult to field strip and reassemble. The bolt did not glide smoothly. I believe too many compromises had been made to the original German design to placate the ATF. The result is not a smoothly functioning firearm.
i love the detail that has a really close sound to the classic "chaka chaka" from the original full auto MP40´s
Using one for a few years I always thought they should have had an extended magazine well with a full hand grip area.. this also aids in holding off hand if you need your trigger hand for something else
Whilst being able to get the weapon back into action much quicker..
that's not a forgotten weapon, that's a remembered weapon
I bet Ian ain't forgetting it anytime soon.😂
Idk about anyone else, but Forgotten Weapons just does not show up in my feed anymore. No matter how many videos I search out and watch, TH-cam just refuses to put any in my feed. I didn't realize it was happening for a couple months until I thought "I haven't seen any of Ian's videos for a long time, I wonder what's going on" and went directly to the channel. I've since watched nearly every video I missed, and still, nothing is showing up in my feed.
Welcome to TH-cam. I have a solution coming soon!
I've had no issues with my GSG, that being said I did modify the trigger bar to take up all the slack in the trigger pull. Makes that worlds better.
I have the GSG MP40...I re-enact WWII Fallschirmjager and really love this gun.
The museum for the Hastings and Prince Edward Regiment in belleville ontario will have some amazing selections of weapons from about 1857 till current Era
2 types of stock locking systems. GSG used the cheap air soft type with the stock locking straight back. Glad the company did the correct original way
Another great video! Awesome job Ian! I’m a big fan of your work. Very succinct and professional as always!
Look at how happy he is, lol.
Have fun, my man.
My GSG MP-40 has been flawless
Hello Ian
This is the first new firearm in a long time that I really want. The quality of the build is outstanding. I agree with you about SBRing this weapon. It is a hefty price to pay to pay but for some one who has idolize these guns since childhood watching "The Gallent Men" and "Combat" it's a price I am willing to pay. Thanks for the video Ian.
Now if someone comes out with a quality PPSh-41 clone, I would be interested for 4k.
At that price, you could get a really well done parts kit build. There were millions of PPShs made.
Ive been wanting for ages to see somone go out of their way to recreate the historic arms. Not just for parts for the originals, but to allow historic designs not fade from the world.
Is it my imagination, or does Ian, almost regardless of weapon, do better on the spinner at the cooler end of the year?
The extra weight of the MP38 will actually work against it in semi-auto as regards accuracy with nearly all that weight in front of the trigger, but that's where you want the weight in full auto. Which really would be authentic.
I went with 7.62x39 over 300bo! It does great from a short barrel! An hornady is making some heavy subs for it!
It would be interesting to see a less accurate (read modern materials )version would be like
might have to order one for Christmas, it looks good with the BD-38 in front of the nice shirt.👍👍👍👍
The go through on the closed bolt safety and dirt ingrese.. Its really clear how the Swedish M/45 copied Schmeissers homework and changed it enough to make it our own..
Cool! As a Canadian, I am awaiting my sentencing for having watched this video. Worth it.
I know it'll never happen but I'd love to see someone recreate the Gabbett Fairfax aka The Webley Mars. Really was the world's most powerful handgun for a while.
I don't think that will ever happen, but a very fun idea.
Probably chamber it in something like .50 AE or .45 Win Mag.
@@jaredthehawk3870 lol
@@bramster-b9v closest you're probably going to get to the original loadings.
@@jaredthehawk3870 I'd be happy with the original .45 Mars loading. 1200 ft/lbs was pretty spectacular for a pistol round invented around about 1899. You're right though, it would be an epic thing in 50AE. . . Edit, should have said fps not ft/lbs. Oops
Another very well done review - and you get to keep it 😂. Thank you for all your work (s).
I have one of the GSG MP 40s the only complaint i have found was a ridiculously long trigger pull and reset after modification of trigger rod fixed that issue i have had no other real issues yet its ok for a inexpensive clone i would expect if you pay 4,000 for one it would be much better made than the GSG copy
I redesigned and 3D printed an improved trigger bar, which made a huge difference in the trigger pull. My gun has proved to be quite reliable and surprisingly accurate.
An original G43 is like $3000 and not accessible to the common man. Loved your video on why repro's are hard to do though and it helped me explain better to others why companies can't just make a cheap MP44 clone or somethin like that. It would be nice to get a huge influx from someone with a price lower then $2000 but that's just a dream. PSA was supposed to make some but seems the ball dropped on that too.
Dittrich is an awesome company and their guns are real gems, however I think that asking € 14,950 for a Type 1 FG42 is a bit out of the line, given that Rick Smith have them for less than $ 6,000. I get the quality is astounding, but for that price in the US you could almost buy a registered trasnferable machine gun (not an FG 42 of course, I know they go for $ 200,000+ as of now) but in m opinionin it's not a realistic price... Type 2 is also over € 8,000+
I am so happy that there are people out there taking the time to make things like this. Gives me hope that one day I'll be able to get reproductions of my favorite firearms that I'd otherwise have 0 chance of ever seeing.
In other words, somebody please make me an SA80.
Now we have to get to Ian a Chauchat reproduction (I would love to see that gun made properly and reliable)
Ian did a review on the Belgian made 1915/27 Chauchut a few years ago. It's a good example of how a well-made Chauchut can look like. No firing videos, unfortunately.
Looks like a well made piece. Firing it would not feel the same without the heavy bolt moving forward to fire.
I'd think this thing would work better for intruder defense than a handgun. In practice it is a short barreled carbine that holds 30 rounds and at modest ranges against the criminal sort who rarely wear body armor...
Ian: It's a chonky boy. My brain: Yeah, and it doesn't even have the loaded magazine in it yet. Thank you Ian, you're the coolest.
I'm sorry Ian but at 22:13 when you said "no getting out of that pickle" my brain automatically pulled up those dumb Scott Layman radio commercials .
Would have liked to see an accuracy test. And Ian, you have to either be a better shot or have a bigger magazine if you want to master the spinner.
I would absolutely love to get my hands on one of these
Can't wait to see this and a Luger or P38 at a two gun match.
I'm a retired Maryland deputy and we recovered a MP 38 in a eviction with SS MARKS. I hope they either donate it to a museum and not destroy it. It's been in the armory since 1980. I recovered a USMC 1918 45 CAL Revolver. A Squad member got a WW 2 1911A1 45 .
Amazing, and Dittrich is right next door to where i live. I guess i have to pay them a visit 👍👍
I wonder how long until someone is making "tacticool chad" rails and foregrips.. it looks far better in it's original configuration
To be fair, the ot would really lend itself to a small red dot. Note of the German WWII sights are anything to write home about.
I'd keep this historical and build a frankengun for red dot and regular use.
Would love to see a video on all the different firearms that use MP40 and STEN magazines 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Semi-automatic? HERESY!!
Once it breaks in and you get some time behind the weapon and it becomes familiar to you it will be a great machine pistol for you.
First this thing, then the PSA StG-44 supposedly coming out this year, us WW2 collectors are eating good. Now if only I could afford it!
Ian is rocking an interesting look on the range. It’s as if sergeant Troy of the Rat Patrol was firing an MP38 captured from the Germans
I got my GSG MP40 9MM so far no problems,, no jamming or any other issues ,, I would love to get a folding stock for it one day ,, SBR it ..
Outstanding video and presentation.
Thank you , Ian .
🐺 Loupis Canis .